SourceCodo

Manage the psychosis that comes with the higher perspective better. You seem to have the same problem as me - telling instead of guiding (or conversing) and it comes off as the stone faced guru arrogantly hiding behind a wall of psychosis. Do you zone out when writing these things sometimes... Maybe it feels like “channeling” the depths. When you “tell” me that all is illusory, I immediately recognize your truths and choose to transcend the need to spend time squabbling about the details. The truths remain regardless of our conversation and my ability to articulate your mental imagery. Tell me a story if you want to make the learning more enjoyable for this dreamer. After a while, we seem to return to presence, far beyond these insights. The insights remain. Words confuse. Yet we keep pushing forward. Keep your candle lit and smile more often. We can always smile more often ? When I wake up, I go back to sleep and inform the other dreamers of my insights. I care about them. They’re just like me. I don’t have the high ground - I choose to push them forward rather than pull them. What’s your favorite book?

Do I need to say anything else? ok, I will Wake up and kick out the narcissistic doppelganger. Or give it a sedative. Having awareness of a process does not make that process beholden to the individual will. Rather, the individual becomes beholden to the process. The illusions you garner about creation are just concepts... Concepts stacked on concepts, stuffed into other concepts and then tied vigorously to more concepts and images. If it is truly God, prove it. The finger does not command the body, hence the finger is not an omnipotent (all of reality and creative potential) God. Merely a product of it or a cluster of it's "pixels" for a lack of concise terminology. And for what it's worth, beyond what is, what the fuck do you participants even think God is? The product of an emotional sequence? Only Love? If you have confidence in what God is, please share - you'll likely kill me on the spot. Leo is a stand-in Zen devil (this is a joke...) and he already knows it, might have a great laugh and then return to devilry or protect worldly credibility. His polarized view through the lens of God has convinced him otherwise. (observational opinion - this isn't really fair and I'm just trying to illustrate that some peak experiences show us things but we just don't abide in them) Thoughts? I suspect I'm a Zen devil as well... Enjoy desecrating the ground I stand on with this post.

@Moksha You've left a sign post in the road here for future travelers & explorers with this message. It points to the path. And you've opened my eye just a bit wider than it was before. You're awesome. I'm going to revisit the Gita now - every visit brings new insight. It is both near and far, both within and without every creature; it moves and is unmoving. In its subtlety it is beyond comprehension. It is invisible, yet appears divided in separate creatures. Know it to be the creator, the preserver, and the destroyer. Dwelling in every heart, it is beyond darkness. It is called the light of the lights, the object and goal of knowledge, and knowledge itself. —The Bhagavad Gita Big gratitude to Big G for this creation, big gratitude to little g for sticking around and enjoying the ride - the show wouldn't be the same without you.

Can’t argue with anything here. You’ve obviously thought this through deeply and seem to be abiding in a clear state of consciousness. I thank you for taking the time to write out this sincere response to me. Here is my response, I’m trying to expand upon your points with some of my own roadblocks. Apologies if it seems confrontational. I just can’t get past this feeling that each of us experiencing god in our own way is just another way of identifying the uniqueness of our personal experience and individual (egoic) taste. If God is truly as inherent as we say, we should show the utmost respect for everyone we meet (just respect and wonder, doesn’t mean they know everything). Especially if they haven’t allowed the required layers of consciousness to peel back yet to attain awareness themselves. It feels like a line in the sand for many, but to me is just an inherent fact that doesn’t need to be addressed. This isn’t a bad thing... Our source is what it is. Being not being is fun and all, but the concept won’t be taking up any mind-space when you’re totally immersed in your experience. And when you’re totally immersed in your experience, you’re more likely to authentically connect with people because concepts and ideas aren’t coming between you. There is the bigger and more ever present picture to consider, but if I’m being honest, my awareness tends to localize on centered experience the more I focus...But my awareness of the profundity of life is ever present no matter the mood. I believe we should find ourselves, support the team and party like hell before the lights go out. Have some good laughs and explore the mysteries. And just be ready to party again if you find yourself awakening in a new place.

Mind over matter. Sacrifices are made in this life to get the things we want. Use it as a springboard into something more aligned with who you are. Join an organization that you really care for and want to see succeed. That might make work more meaningful and easier to stick with - this is what I’m doing until I find another direction. You’ll also have time for productive hobbies like personal development (easy to do alongside the work day). These jobs all feel so unnatural. I’ve been an analyst for a bit over 8 years now and it’s been a struggle. It’s a super chill way to make a good amount of money, but you sacrifice a bit of what you’d otherwise want to do for it. That’s a bitch. But hey! You can always quit and start a business or join a commune. Good luck, have fun.

This guy gets it. Thank you. And here’s a song to encapsulate my melancholic joy ?

This was a tough one for me. Under my rationalization it implies that the unique and sacred individual being guided by me will fade away one day. Sad and me dismissing his existence feels tragic. Ego gonna ego though. Illusions gonna lusion. Sufferers gonna suffer.

This is not my definition. This is the owner of this websites definition. Look at the thread "Leo's Practical Guide to Enlightenment" - there are some wonderful resources in there and Leo has been very articulate with his presentation. My experiences have been quite broad up and down the spectrum of self exploration. I think Leo did a good job of putting the experiences into words but it's always tough to relate to things that you have not directly experienced. I keep finding myself on top of a mountain, only to realize that there is another mountain hiding behind it in the fog. But then I suddenly realize that there are mountains to the side, behind, above.. It just keeps going. But pervading it all there are some fantastic truths to be found. Experiencing their discovery on your own helps them stick. Just start learning and don't stop. There will be epiphanies that help to clear the fog along the way. The journey is the destination.

This is stickied in "Leo's Practical Guide to Enlightenment" -

Whatever we are, we are. Look at us talking to you. That's who. We're all essentially extensions of each other and have the ability to influence one another both directly and indirectly. We would return to let them know that they too exist as infinitely as we do. And also that they should seek an ever growing level of self knowledge to better enjoy the ride and make it better for others... Before this one is over. This moment, awareness and your intrinsic self might be infinite, but the abstraction that is your unique self might not be something you can experience forever.

It's all a spiritual game meant to be explored, isn't it? And fair enough, Joshu was a troll to the enlightened that want things explained via their truth and nothing but it. They wanted Joshu to paint a picture of their reality for them with his own words. When I sent it, I was hoping you would read and be like "oh hey, that's sort of what's happening in my interaction with this person, how funny". ie - You view me in a certain way, but I am entirely different than what you view me as. Wish I couldn't provide something that fit well, I thought you might like Joshu based on your interest in Basho.

@Moksha Perhaps, but this shared space is where I'm focusing my awareness - it's practical and keeps this body alive. It seems to be designed explicitly for experience and exploration. A pseudo sandbox learning environment of sorts. My consciousness sits somewhere in the midst of biochemical reactions emanation from direct thought. A byproduct. I seem to be influencing the elements (in this body) with thoughts of the mind. But that's even hard to say because it's not that simple. And this is where I draw my title from. Big G vs little g. I argue that I'm not creating my reality because I don't have God like powers to shape it and neither does any other being I've interacted with. Perhaps I'm living in a different comic book and can't see your powers... But in this one you don't have any beyond what is the meta human experience and it's potential from my perspective. Now that being said, I respect your thoughts and the thought forms that have been created behind the veil of what I can see in you. I'm sure I could benefit from hearing about the story of your created God. Or if you're just referring to yourself, cheers. The idea of "no we" is beyond me unfortunately. I have been there before in my epiphanies and the same story always reemerges - "Cool story, it's all one and I could live my life through this lens... But it's far more sincere to respect every other as a fun house mirror(we have differences) reflection of myself... Implying we." To be completely honest, I was overcome with a deep sense of guilt and sorrow when the realization of God hit me. It felt more akin to my own deep set narcissistic traits trying to dismiss the existence of others so I could more sincerely attach myself to the truth that had emerged into my awareness. Eventually the dualistic perspective settled and I chose it as a decent place to hang out. It means I see you and respect you as an individual with the same greatness (with different details) driving you that is driving me. A shared experience of unity (inherently contradictory to the normal paradigm of human thinking). Perhaps I am shallow and unenlightened, but that is why I continue expanding my experiences and seeking the viewpoints of others while giving respect to the profound existence I'm experiencing.

Totally. It's like something is trying to pull you away once you realize you have the power to do the actions you mentioned. I can't tell if it's existential fear or some unconscious trigger that thinks we aren't supposed to be aware of our dream state or something else entirely. It's odd but the same realization in this "real" dream had similar effects on my psyche the first few times I recognized it... I just haven't figured out how to walk through walls in here yet. There are many methods for raising the level of calm you experience once you've realized you're dreaming - it helps you stay in the dream and will certain anomalies into the dreamscape. Look into the topic! It's deep and goes back centuries.

I wanted to respond to each of your points individually, but I think you did a good job of wrapping up the points I raised. I ask you this - how could a blind, deaf and mute individual articulate these experiences and truths after they found them within? Who could possibly know what the individual knows? Here's a Joshu quote for you, I'm curious how it is received: NOTE: The monk only saw the Joshu that is Joshu, and not the Joshu that is not Joshu. Thanks for sharing Basho, I really liked what I read. Quote came from here

You are no ordinary man. The call to reconnect with our primordial nature is a complex feeling and it feels like our own nature making itself clear that it wishes for union with all of life and our source (whatever this means, I'm just trying to relate to the characters actions later in the movie). Thanks for sharing.

I can remove this entire reality from my experience, but I choose not to. Now let's talk about You. You are the One I seek a connection with while I am here. My intention is clear. What is your favorite show/movie?

You correct. Thanks for noticing. I find it rather boring to just say *some* things outright. People usually either attach themselves to the concept or accept it as truth/falsehood which leads to tragic misunderstandings. I'm trying to recognize the truth in what Leo has said while also giving credence to the fact that is applies to everyone here as well. I'm no teacher. I explore. I'm looking for the guy/gal who knew what Gautama Buddha *maybe* meant when he raised the flower to his nose and gave it a whiff instead of a long speech during the flower sermon.

The depth of my character is beholden to the diversity of my experiences. I might actually know what you're getting at and may have experienced it myself many times and maintained the connection in awareness for prolonged periods of time... Oh the possibilities. Once you had the realization did you unpack and live with the experience or did you go about your life hoping to learn more? Did you try and tell your family and friends that they were asleep? I've seen it happen. I had a rough time accepting that I would eventually have to just continue the journey and find my authenticity again... I had a bag of spiritually dogmatic terms that kept getting me into binds with people that don't know those terms... I care deeply about connecting with anyone and everyone. It's a bonus when they see through my words to the nice guy (who talks like a total asshole sometimes - apologies) trying to connect.

@Forestluv Interesting. You don't think this applies to God? That was part of the point of this post. God might be very defined to you... Or maybe not. The term has a wide variety of meanings among humans. As for the other stuff, my statements obviously didn't click so don't bother. My mannerisms don't click with some people.

Once you figure out who knows, will you tell me? I'm not sure I have the appropriate cypher.

That's because it's a conversation starter. I left it hollow and was looking forward to discussions like ours that will patch the holes in my awareness using the insights of great minds that have gathered to discuss spirituality, self development and enlightenment... Perhaps even God realization.

@SourceCodo I'm not concerned about calling God grandiose. Semantics are tough. Is there maybe 1 thing you see in my statement that is worthy of a reinterpretation? Or have I nailed my own coffin shut with this one?

God is grand. I wouldn't dare to say anything less. I guess I'm allowing the manifested consciousness of "Leo" that is presented before me to just be "Leo" for all intents and purposes. That's why I use little g. I imagine it's what we wanted when we decided to form individual personas and not identify as the whole.

I know it's useless, that's why I said it. The uselessness of this concept has reflections in other concepts that I was trying to spotlight for people who see through the contentedness of my post. Not 5-MeO, but I have tried high dose Acid, Shrooms, LSD, DMT, Salvia and years of trance meditation. I'm amazed that prior drug use is the gateway to credibility here though. Slow clap.

@SourceCodo Damn, such authority. We didn't even discuss my conception of big G. I was simply addressing the grandiosity that comes from seeing something like "I AM GOD" to the everyday observer. I have failed in my attempt to connect with you. Cheers.