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Some more quotes from the book: “It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.” “The things you used to own, now they own you.” “I let go. Lost in oblivion. Dark and silent and complete. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom.” “Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer, maybe self-destruction is the answer.” “Everyone smiles with that invisible gun to their head.” “We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens.” I don't know if this book tries to make a case for people seeking enlightenment or it's just a nihilistic ego trip. I'm leaning toward the latter. There are definitely things that can make people look at their lives a different way, but it's a very bleak and dark way. Enlightenment ain't all sunshine and rainbows but it ain't dark or condemning as well.
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You know your passion isn't ego driven when you don't feel any fear if it doesn't work out. You just enjoy the activity for the doing of it. If you think this activity will get you somewhere else than where you already are, there is ego in it. Let's say you want to be a musician, if you just want to be that to be famous, rich and respected. It's ego. If you play music regardless it gives you money or anything else 'tangible' it might be a passion. The funny thing is, if you indeed reach enlightenment the "you" wouldn't even be able to be fearful about stuff like this. You would need to release these fears anyway, they are simply attachments of the ego. Life itself will become the passion and everything that crosses your experience will be passionate. All the ego stuff that drops on that moment is only a good thing, and you wouldn't worry about it one bit.
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Most guys are going to lose hair one day in their life, some guys sooner than others. I know dudes who start going bald in their teens, they shaved it all, accepted it, and moved on. If you base your self-worth on the amount of hair on your head you are going to run into serious self-worth struggles in life, regardless how much hair you have. I'd say this is a good opportunity for you to look into loving yourself regardless the circumstances life throws at you. If you need to pop pills and use substances to feel secure about yourself you're going to be in trouble. Everyone will have issues with aging. For you it might be the hair, for someone else it might be wrinkles, greying hair, cellulitis, weight gain, whatever. It's not the hair that is the root issue of the problem, it's how you approach it. If you are capable of just loving that shit regardless, everyone else will as well. If you make an enemy out of it, you will see a demon behind every tree, even if you could somehow stop or reduce the hair loss. That's just how it goes.
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You say you understand enlightenment yet you also use terms as: "disastrous consequences for the individual" and judge people for having a "delusional state of mind". One could argue that everyone who does not know Truth is delusional in a way, but that is a pretty condescending and unenlightened way of putting it. Secondly, everyone is on their journey, whether you are a spiritual seeker or not. Every seeker has fallen into numerous traps including romanticizing spirituality. Eventually will find their, or they will not, it's not up to you nor the individual. Every seeker is "delusional" when they start seeking enlightenment, how can they not be? They won't have a clue what they are looking for. Looking for something when you have no idea what it is, is by probably called delusional by most people. You could even say that by having an ego you are just running away from Truth. Demonizing these people will not help them closer to finding what they seek
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In both cases, it is your ego standing in the way of actually finding what you seek
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What is the goal of personal development? To be able to create as much value as you can. If you can put a genuine smile on some stranger's face every day you are creating more value in the world than most people do in a week. And it barely costs any energy
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Lie all you want. Don't be a pussy, go all in with it, lie big. See where it will get ya. It's indeed not 'bad' like Shakespeare said. But at the end of the day, it is you who is lying to yourself, you are going to have to suffer for it. Why do people lie? Because they are afraid to tell the truth, they feel they are not worthy to tell the truth.
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LOA is very powerful if you have no inner resistances/blocks/limiting beliefs which sabotage your ability to actually attract it into your reality. But since most people have a lot of ego BS going on, pretty much all the time, it just ain't happening. Most people would benefit way more on focussing on fixing their ego issues rather than trying to attract material stuff with LOA, nothing on the outside is going to make you happy on the inside anyway.
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vizual replied to A way to Actualize's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think it depends if the enlightened person feels if school is his path to take or not. Why would an enlightened person finish school if he, in his heart, knows that it won't bring him anything of value? It's not that he has something to fear if he doesn't do school stuff. If he did school at that point he would just do it for the 'story', he would need to ignore Truth. I don't you'd be quick to ignore Truth if you are enlightened. I mean, most enlightened people are still functional in society, probably more so than the average neurotic person. It's just that there is no more self-worth at stake, there is nothing more to lose. -
vizual replied to step1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For some reason the image of all these people crying and hugging each other and some guy sitting there thinking: "what in the hell have I gotten myself into?" really made me LOL. I'm pretty sure not all retreats are like that, Mooji is just an emotional guy and for some people that resonates. Other people need a more rational approach. -
vizual replied to Ayla's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Oh that's easy. If you want to make something really clear, then all you have to do is write that thing in CAPS. Then everyone will understand it. Read this is in the internet rule book. -
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Maybe true. But then again, what actually is a pure, genuine reason for waking up, does such a thing exist? If a person has enough of the suffering of the ego one might say that that seeker is just trying to run away from his problems.- 24 replies
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I always lol when people bring up positive thinking: "Yeah, just think positively bro, everything is gonna work out great" Positive thinking can only exist if there is also negative thinking. There is thinking, and then there's positive/negative thinking. You can't have your cake and eat it too, I guess is the expression.
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vizual replied to Progress's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
We are not Gods, there is only God. There is no one to be a God. You need to experience this, till then it's good you stay skeptical of what you believe. Get to the truth yourself. Question everything, all your beliefs, and see what's left for yourself.- 12 replies
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vizual replied to Bruno's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well that is your assumption. The ego tries to hold on and thrives on passing judgments constantly, if you can alleviate that you can live a heck more consciously. It all depends on how the person interprets these statements. At the end of day, no single statement will make a person more conscious, the person actually has to do it.- 16 replies
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Only from the egoic perspective- 16 replies
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vizual replied to Bruno's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
By simply letting go and accept whatever it may bring without judgment- 16 replies
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On the other hand. If you start helping people because you expect that it might give you something(enlightenment), helping others is now claimed and conceptualized by the ego. Everyone has to find out their own path. For some that might be helping others, for others it might be a different approach
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Once I reach XYZ I'll be happy That girl was totally checking me out(not really bro lol) When someone shoulderbumps me in a crowd with force I think: "What a lovely person" I'm a Zen master, nothing can shake my world If I won the lottery I would make all my dreams come true All people are better than me, and worse than me
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vizual replied to Em_RZ's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Interesting exercise. The most interesting to me is to what my attention is trying to avoid. There are some parts of my face which I don't find particularly attractive and my attention is trying to block out those parts and focus on the "good" parts. There are clearly some self esteem issues there I have to delve deeper into. Thanks- 4 replies
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vizual replied to Kini's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
God is with you right now, you just haven't realized it yet. When you are identified with the ego you are merely confused with who you are. You have this vague sense of that you are your thoughts, senses and body, but you can't quite pinpoint what the real essence of you is. There is definitely a vague story about who you think you are but when you get to the bottom of that you might be surprised what you'd find. Get to the bottom of the story how you define your life. This will take contemplation and work so you have to have a yearning for the truth about your life. -
Science = creation, just as art = creation. Science just tries to create things to which all our senses can be deceived by. I'd say science is art for our logical part of the brain, and art is science for the emotional part of our brain. And of course they both overlap. For example, when you see an expressionistic painting your senses tell you that painting is not 'real', but the evoked emotion might be real. Art might give you new insight and knowledge about our emotional experience. Science presumes that the universe is made up of separate parts(logical brain) and creates new parts which give insight and knowledge about our logical experience.
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I can imagine when you experience intense abuse for years you are permanently "damaged", the damaging simply becomes a part of you which you can't "fix". This damage doesn't make her suffer anymore, it just is what it is, a part of who she is. That probably makes her more drawn to this kooky stuff.
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Typing yourself as a certain personality while you are still a victim of circumstance(which most people are) is just throwing oil on the fire. Most people are bounced around by their fears and their false desires and call it life. People lead their lives dancing around the fire in stead of going through it, fixing your personality or whatever you think you are is useless. Overcome your fears, stop chasing ghosts, become your authentic self. Then you can see what personality type fits.