Hulia

You are right, I was applying a logic of one system on the other one (thinking in analogies). It doesn´t make any sense. When I create a cat, it is a cat and not a dog.

I have a dream which I cannot fulfil and cannot abondon. A dream on different levels. On the meta level it´s of course awakening. But it can take all my life (it already does) without ever getting there. I don´t even know, how to approach it, effort seems to be not the right way. The other level (the human one) should be the easier one. Theoretically. Practically it´s as impossible as the awakening. Not a field where you can succeed by gving enough effort and not a field where I am blessed with luck. All my dreams, everything I imagined as a child, have been fulfilled exactly as I wanted it or even better. But here I am stuck.

Ok, don´t listen to me too much. I have never done any guided visualizations before, I rather resented them, when some yoga coaches tried to implement them. But now I decided to be more open-minded. At first I nagged about kingdoms and now I´m going to nag about closed spaces like building and slow proceeding. Generally it´s difficult for me to imagine static pictures. It began already with imagining the numbers: “2” was changing its layour from Calibri to Arial etc.., “7” waved to me, “8” was flowing and changing the colors. Then you told to rise slowly from the bed and maybe till the ceiling, and I was clinging to the ceiling before you ended the phrase and didn´t know what to do else, so I rose further through the ceiling till I was sitting on the roof and could at least spend my time by overlooking the neighborhood. Then you told to come back into the bed. And it was a problem, because I couldn´t do it in the same way. The roof, on which I was sitting, was hard. I couldn´t penetrate through it into my bedroom (I think it just contradicted the fact that I was sitting on it without falling through). So I tried through chimney. But it didn´t work, because chimney has no opening into my bedroom, the only opening is in the cellar and you didn´t instruct to go into the cellar. Then I found a possibility - I flew from the roof into the window of my bedroom and back into my bed. Then when you spoke about foyer with many doors, I imagined a corridor of my school with many doors. But when I began to focus on one of them, they began to disappear – one after another. So I had to imagine something else. And I imagined a door of the flat where I spent my childhood. In my room there was a white cat sitting on my desk, I held it and hugged it. There was really a neighbor cat, which climbed every night into my room through the open window, but I never hugged him, on the contrary I was scared the shit out of me waking up and seen some unfamiliar cat sitting on my desk and gazing at me. Generally it was really difficult to see something behind the door. I saw often another door behind the door or a wall, or it was just completely dark. I tried 2nd time but more relaxed and more allowing things happen. There were much more distractions also some people running the corridors going out and into the doors speaking to me or just pulling faces, and the scenes changed quickly where they were not supposed to change. But it was easier to see something behind the door. For example in the room with shadows I saw movies running on every wall. Dumb movies showing different scenes and people in complete silence and darkness. Fascinating Anyway I´ll definitely do this visualization again. The pauses are not short for me, on the contrary during the pauses some things happen, which are not supposed to happen according to scenario. I did shamanic breathing before going to bed. But the effect of it flattened a bit. I am not overwhelmed by some extraordinary experiences or images. I am just emotionally relaxed afterwards. Another peculiarity: At first I felt like wanting to go to disco after shamanic breathing and now I feel like wanting to clean my house

@seeking_brilliance I am looking forward to tonight I had already a little rehearsal last night, but I didn´t open any of the doors, waited for you &)

It would make the moderator´s job easier. No silly questions any more. I mean it! Seriously.

Because Leo doesn´t allow any kind of debates about god, which are not in compliance.

@Gesundheit I can imagine a story with the title "The adventures of unenlightened God" Or better a cartoon. Yeeh, a cartoon would be great. Touching and funny - a tragicomedy.

@Mason Riggle @BipolarGrowth @tsuki we are already 4!

@Gesundheit I didn´t find your question dumb. For me it´s a logical questions which arises out of the statement, that Leo is God, your are God, me is God, everyone is God. Leo and a couple of others are enlightend, but 99,999% of us are not. It´s a ligitimate question to ask if God can be considered as enlightened with his petty 0,001%

You think "god" is a good word to express "the sameness of yourself in everything else and the interconnectedness". This is practically the first thing that comes into our mind when we hear the word "god". Hmm... Honestly I would prefer just "interconnectedness" or "sameness".

What is conceptual awakening? Are you telling me, that god is not a concept? Or less concept than solipsism and nihilism?

@Mason Riggle I like the idea! @Leo Gura If you don´t want to ban a word, this silly small word. Then replace it! By devil for example. Didn´t you tell, that God = Devil? OK, if you don´t want Devil, take Conscience/Nothingness..for example. Nobody will ask if Nothingless is unenlightened.

He (She?) will!

I assume it would be boring if I would predefine the people surrounding me. I could only decide on the basis of known. I prefer the suspense. Presumed there is an internet where I can also decide who is around me A combination is good

@Muhammad Jawad This is what I am afraid of. That shamanic breathing will weaken my mathematical skills. SirWladimir claimed, it did it to him, somewhere in the mega-thread for scham.breathing. It doesn´t bother him. But it would bother me!

Fun sounds good

I see it already! I mean the grand foyer and several doors. Yet not what is behind the door. No spoiler! How did you know? You will lough, but I sometimes reread my old posts to check if there are some funny places to see a smile on your face. Isn´t it weird?

I don´t think in words. Too lazy. But I don´t see it as a plus. Too little training when speaking to other people. It´s difficult for me to find the right words or end the sentence without jumping to another thought, because of loosing interest suddenly in the first one...

"Awesome" sounds always strange for me. I thought about it. Perhaps it´s because of 2 words which mean the same in English and German: "aw-full" and "grau-sam". They merge in my head into "aw-some" and get another meaning a kind of "horrible" (I just envy you )

Loadspeaker box. There is a label "intensive bass" on it

you are awesome They kicked me out of choir either in the school. I think, nobody likes his / her voice recorded. My box has an extra deepening function, if it puts you more at ease

@seeking_brilliance You have no acccent... Clear and distinct voice. So much better than synthetic. It´s a pity, I have no life purpose. But I am waiting for your rooms and door story

I definitely love the bloody shamantic breathing If my yoga studio is closed after corona, I´ll look for some shamantic studio...

I´ve already bought a box for my mobile to hear you better I have also another idea. You could visualise your dream. A big house with many rooms. Wondering from one room into another. Not knowing what is behind the door of the next room. Let´s bring a little suspense into the dream events Or is it not a purpose?

Anything you want or others want. But no kings and no palaces please Something like Ghibli Studio visualization would be nice.