Nemra

Again, it doesn't. It appears that we are unlikely to reach an agreement. It's pointless to continue.

No, it's not. I have told you in various ways.

That's your mistake of not understanding that it is relevant. Instead of responding to me to appear that you are right, I would recommend that you understand how understanding your experience would imply what I said.

You used the will argument without really countering what I said. Check your memory sometimes. I even said I don't really know about it; however, if inner experience is imaginary, then there isn't the will of others. So, your "argument" was irrelevant.

Not so fast. Your counterarguments were false from the start. And I have responded to you a lot. So, no.

No.

You believe they have, which is not the case. So, it's relevant.

No. Try again. You don't understand that I'm not talking about forms behaving without my control. I'm talking about those forms having inner experiences, which is impossible because of what experience is. That difference is lost on you.

You cannot even prove others' inner experience, as it's impossible, and yet you believe others have will. You make some huge leaps in faith. Don't jump too far, because you might fall. I'm also matching your energy. Don't blame me.

That is what I was telling you. No, you didn't. But good luck believing you did.

Said a person who can't understand that it doesn't have to do anything with what I was saying. It doesn't hurt to know the truth. Or maybe it does for you.

I don't know that yet. If my experience is all there is, then I would have to understand what that actually points to. I haven't contemplated that yet. However, you just haven't bothered to understand your experience. It's that simple.

You will be lost in beliefs if you deem direct experience as false.

I'm not claiming that I can will anything in my experience. I don't know that. However, it doesn't prove anything here. First of all, recognize that your experience is all there is. Then understand that others cannot be experiencing things with you because of what it means to be experiencing things.

Taste or whatever doesn't matter. You are not focusing on what I'm saying. We are talking about people having inner experiences, which are imaginary since yours is all there is.

Instead of saying God this, God that, understand what your experience is.

It's not puny at all. You just have miserably failed to recognize that.

I don't know what bending my whole reality would mean. I'm just saying that your experience is all there is. And to say that others are having inner experiences contradicts that your experience is absolute.

You are saying you don't need proof while trying to prove me otherwise. Cool. Are there two experiences happening? No. Experience is absolute, because there is no other experience that you can compare it to at the moment. You can compare your current experience with the memory of another experience. Also, saying that there are forms in your experience doesn't prove that those forms have inner experience. You are just ignoring what it means to experience things.

@Breakingthewall, let's not make this complicated. Please, prove that I'm actually experiencing stuff. What you would eventually understand is that you cannot prove it, because it would require you to directly experience what I experience, which means you should become me. But if you become me, then the proof will remain unproven, because all you would experience is my experience and not others'. Well, why should you experience it in order to be able to prove it? Because you only understand what experience is by experiencing stuff.

When you don't experience something currently, do you say that it exists? If so, then you are confusing your memory of the experience with the actual experience of that thing. Which is happening right now, your experience or your memory of your experience? Your memory itself is in your experience, but what it refers to is not in your experience. Although, I'm not saying that memories don't refer to things that are true.

All you got is your experience.

If you say that you are conscious that others are also experiencing, then would you say that you should also experience what they are experiencing? If so, then why aren't you experiencing people's experiences?

For you, what does it mean to be conscious of an experience?

Please clarify how that was relevant to what I was saying.