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@Daniel Balan, nature has been forgiving to me lately, and there are still problems. But it was brutal back then. I was diagnosed with epilepsy years ago, and it could activate anytime, and it's not curable.

@Daniel Balan, let me tell you something funny. When I was tripping, the experience got so raw and unbiased that I became afraid, so much so that I started telling myself, "I need to believe, I need to believe, ...". But I think that belief in yourself and your actions is appropriate to some degree.

@integral, dude, you are taking the discussion too seriously. It's not worth it. I haven't really cared about what I was by the test from the beginning. I was also being humorous. If you go back a little bit, you would see that I said the questions were too simple. How did you come to that conclusion? 😮‍💨

If people understood what belief is, would they seek truth by believing? The devil is in the detail. Belief as a tool cannot compete with meditation and especially psychedelics. Although if you don't question beliefs, they might infect the tools that actually change your state.

@Daniel Balan, basically, you like animism.

By acting I meant literal acting where an actor acts. Well, the intent was to point out that beliefs should be questioned if you want truth about something. As I said, belief is diametrically opposed to questioning, which is a huge thing, at least for me. Do you see people treating their beliefs lightly? No, because they think it is true wholeheartedly. I don't think that there isn't a place for belief; however, it's very deceiving.

@Daniel Balan, they are high on belief. 😁

Belief is a method for truth for religious people. They are all filled with beliefs, and they think that by continuing to believe, they will be alongside or find truth. Also, what was garbled?

@Leo Gura, they don't understand the truth of what belief is. I don't think you will be able to convince them otherwise.

What?

Maybe I’m Schrödinger’s cat — INTP and INFP until observed. I’m unstructured by design. Good luck, INTJ!

@kbone, but why would you want to torture yourself by believing if you understand that any assumption could be true or false? Why use belief as a method for truth if you already consider that your assumptions are true? What is there to believe if you know the truth? Why should you accumulate beliefs if you don't have to? Why not question? What is stopping that? You can believe when you act, but why would you waste your time if you are seeking the truth? Can belief work without an assumption? 😁

That happens to me as well.

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I didn't say that. Well, then it's settled. I'm an INTP. 😁 Or maybe the test should have better questions. 😌

If you didn't recognize a truth, would you want to know other truths? But beliefs are not just words. Beliefs themselves are direct, as in they happen in your experience, but what you believe in is not direct because there are unquestioned assumptions. Using belief to recognize truth is never going to happen, because a person has already assumed it's true from the beginning. If something bad happens to that person, he/she must either admit the truth or continue believing their previous beliefs. If he/she admits the truth, then what is stopping him/her from questioning the other beliefs? And why should he/she use belief as a method for seeking truth?

Sorry, but I disagree.

@Joshe, I definitely am not driven by feelings, but I do have deep feelings. I do think and imagine a lot, and I have a crazy stream of thoughts; however, I don't try to find answers by solely doing logic. I try to connect and find patterns a lot.

Maybe that's not a bug, but a feature. 😁

I don't know that, perhaps it is. But not for truth-seeking.

@Joshe, I do like knowing stuff, but I'm driven by comprehending stuff. I get excited when I try to understand and make connections. It's like my life depends on it. For me, it would be for the sake of comprehension. Only knowledge is too dry for me. I don't try to logicize everything, but I love making logical connections. I would do site hunting to find programs all over the internet to try them and understand how they work, regardless of how obscure they are. I would learn many programming languages because it amazed me how programs are maintained by code. I have too many internal thoughts, by which one might go crazy. I try to let them flow and understand them. I talk to myself a lot. 😁 Etc.

No. You will understand when you question beliefs. There is a difference between having beliefs, by being careful without holding them tight, and using belief to realize truth. Questioning and holding or acquiring beliefs are diametrically opposed to each other. There isn't a recognition of truth in beliefs, as they are basically assumptions about reality that are convincing to you, where emotions are used as a fuel.

Belief as a method for realizing truth is one of the most delicious delusions. People don't understand that beliefs are not direct and cannot lead to truth. Beliefs are assumptions about reality, and they make you convinced that you are correct. If there is an assumption, there will be a question for that assumption. Not questioning that assumption is what makes beliefs unsuitable and delusional for realizing truth.

Religion provides beliefs while presenting them as direct knowledge, which creates a confidence that discourages questioning those beliefs. It doesn't understand that beliefs are not direct. If, by "real", you mean that those religions awaken you or make you have direct realizations, then it's correct to say that they, or the people who follow them, will all be deluded forever.

@Schizophonia, forget about it. I was trying to understand what he meant. But I think you could understand it by thinking about what femininity needs, regardless of the degree of it in each person. The term that Leo made up made me confused about what he was talking about.