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@theoneandnone, the will of a character in a story is limited by the story, isn't it?

#9 It was so clear that my life is a literal story when I took DMT today. I was seeing how it was being constructed, and I was in shock. It was beyond just being aware of being lost in beliefs here and there. There was no ground that I could stand on, and I couldn't care less if my reality were to be constructed in a totally different way, beyond human. People who willy-nilly, without psychedelic experience, tell others that life is a story do not understand the gravity of it. Like, literally, you see how absolutely your reality is being constructed.

@Leo Gura, I cannot imagine that in my normal state, because I cannot escape familiarity entirely. However, on DMT, things get quite alien. Though, I haven't had a big enough dose to go fully alien. By the way, I was trying to say that people are inclined to think of the word "alien" as a creature and not as an unfamiliar experience. I wasn't saying that you are using it wrong.

People mostly associate the word "alien" with possible non-earthly creatures instead of foreign, strange, weird, bizarre, unusual, etc., experiences. Did you pick the word "alien" because it sounds better with the word "consciousness"?

I ate 15g fresh truffles (2-3g dried mushrooms) in one fell swoop. It was tasty. My mind was royally fucked. Now, it's a memory that shakes me up often.

Like housing crisis.

You might not want to go back home after visiting. Psychedelic laws, building and city architecture, tram system. Although, they also have their own issues.

The best place to order psychedelics. @Leo Gura, have you been there?

You can't be a Christian without practicing Christianity. Practice doesn't mean praying on Sundays. There are different denominations of Christianity, and yet everyone of them believes they are more Christian than the other, not knowing that they are all lost in their dogma. Lol. The core of Christianity is belief in Jesus, and the remaining beliefs are built on top of it.

Christians literally believe that there are demons that test people and stray them away from the Christian way of life. Maybe there are Christians who also can think in terms of projection, but they have the lingering fear of demons.

I almost forgot about Sadhguru. I couldn't care less about watching gurus nowadays. Lol. He's trying too hard to compete with psychedelics, I guess.

He loves so much that he forgot that he must die someday. I think you can love life without prolonging it. Anyways. Sorry for derailing your thread.

Why does he focus on always prolonging it? I don't get it. It would get too boring. People must eventually die.

Brain's "philosophy" is how to prolong the human lifespan and defeat death, even though he has taken a psychedelic.

I just wanted to know about that. 👍

What's not advanced about your existential stuff? As of now, a lot of them might not be advanced to you, but for me, all of the existential stuff that I have heard from you is advanced. Which means that people who want to attend must be familiar with your theories about those stuff, right? So, we also must have done what you consider non-advanced existential stuff before joining your retreat? If so, what are those?

@Leo Gura, I'm not trying to specifically cast a doubt on what you've been saying through these years. I know that you've been hammering on the "surgery" part. That's what makes your theories worth listening to, at least for me. Though, a lot of your God, alien, etc., theories I don't know what it actually points to because I barely have experience with psychedelics. So, I'm trying to treat them as possibilities, even though they sound very interesting and deep to me. But your theory must be as deep as your experience of "surgery" allows it to be.

Wasn't that theory built upon doing "surgeries"? I think that the "surgery" must be held more significant than the theories of it. I assume you would say that most theories are BS of what you talk about. So, it could also be dangerous to prefer theorizing in the name of safety instead of doing "surgery". Imagine the first human who did actual surgery without any theory. That's how it must have started.

As long as we survive as humans, because after tripping, we will come back, and we would still have an outdated theory of the world without rethinking about the experience, which would backfire, right?

When you say that "the real work is in chemicals" and words aren't helpful, you mean that no amount of contemplation or any other human method could be of help with the chemicals to access that domain, right?

I would say if you don't experience and only have beliefs about deities, then they aren't actual deities. It should come from experience, otherwise, they are just beliefs. So, if you actually experience something that more or less reflects some word, don't you have the say what the word means assuming that you haven't held beliefs about it?

@Leo Gura, what makes a deity a deity from your experience? It's refreshing to know that deities could be experienced. Though, people are too eager to make up and hold beliefs about deities and be attached to them, which makes me discard them. Beliefs of deities are thought to be unique, as if there couldn't be even slightly different from the "original". But if deities do exist, I think they have to be of infinite kind and all of them equally true and original, which makes worshipping and forming beliefs about one or a few of them nonsense, right?

Recently? I know that you did it a few times in the past, but haven't mentioned stuff about deities. Doesn't it make you forgetful?

@Leo Gura, what happened that "deity" became a thing for you?