Nemra

What movie have you recently watched, or are you now watching? I have yet to finish watching the movie "The Irishmen".

It seems that the more I deconstruct my ordinary experience the more I would grasp the degree of its hallucinatory or dream-like nature, not only just that it's a hallucination or dream. Years back I would have never imagined this being a dream. The directness of it is like looking directly at the sun and being totally alone. Understanding it changes the quality of my experience. E.g., I look at my body and recognize that it is being dreamt. I'm more open towards my death because who else is going to experience stuff other than me?

One time I had a radical experience that everything was revealed as a hallucination or the other time it's a dream. When coming back from those experiences, they become treated as other. But deconstructing my ordinary experience helps reveal its nature. E.g., no dream exists outside of the dream in my sleep, and no experience exists outside of my own in my waking life. This makes waking life and the dreams when sleeping equal in terms of existing. But using the term "dream" is more appropriate to describe both realities because it is thought of as being self-contained, even if we think that it happens in our brains.

For me, a "hallucination" is totally lacking external or internal influence. Nothing outside or inside is generating it. It is self-generated. Which totally applies to my experience.

Ok, but what makes a hallucination a hallucination for you? Do you follow the technical definition of it? There has to be some meaning you give to the word "hallucination" so that you can apply it.

@Leo Gura, what's your definition of "hallucination"?

It seems like the rest of the chemicals add up to the potency of the venom.

Oh, I totally ignored that part. I wonder if it's less potent than the pure one. I wanted to go to a psychedelic retreat for my first psychedelic experience. I'm glad I found a cheaper option.

OMG, that shaman was giving at least 90mg of 5-MeO-DMT. That's crazy!

My tactile sensations were overwhelming on 5-MeO-DMT. I haven't dosed higher than 20mg if I recall, but I imagine it would be more violent. The onset of 5-MeO-DMT is difficult to manage. THC was like a light switch, immediately experiencing God.

Jesus! I fucking had a mini-shock of how I would feel experiencing God just by watching that man.

Wait until you live in an almost entirely ethnically homogeneous country with a national identity depending on religious identity and a state religion, especially a Christian one. Your mind will get raped there if your not careful. You wouldn't want anything to do with most people. If they found out you aren't Christian, they would feel betrayed and think you no longer belong to the nation. Basically, a large cult.

The protective mechanisms of the dream are very intelligent, like the script of a great movie that makes you so enmeshed in it that you don't want it to end.

Prometheus wasn't sinister enough. It was sterile.

I wonder what the experience is like on them.

I guess I can make myself watch it to better understand how they trick themselves and how that applies to me. But it's still cringe to see people debate about him as if understanding who he was is very important to our lives and if we don't get it, we are missing something. Imagine intellectuals debate about who you were, more than talk about your teachings, after a few centuries. I'm not against kinks, but Christians have taken it to the next level.

Watching people debating about Jesus is like watching kids fighting over a candy. Cringe! I'm very hesitant to watch the full debate. These people love Jesus more than their spouse. 😂

@Leo Gura, nice share about the Gospel. I didn't know about it.

Construction that lacks sufficient intelligence to make people recognize its own constructed nature, which is why it gets hijacked by the ego. The ego is more intelligent than religion. Religious people are bunch of egos underestimating the power of their own need to survive. They don't understand that their ego is also a construction of a deeper kind.

The confusion comes from not deconstructing or getting a deeper grasp of your ordinary state of experience. Some of you hold a bunch of assumptions about your ordinary state and use higher states of experience to justify your assumptions, and then those assumptions structure the way you think about the higher states.

A world existing outside of your experience is a category mistake! Let's assume that there is an outside world. If you say that there is a thing that exists outside of your experience, it would immediately belong to some experiential category (e.g., visual, auditory, etc.) when you experience it. But how would you know that they exist? Because they become self-evident! Experience is self-evident, which means that the outside experience as a category doesn't exist. This doesn't mean you won't have different experiences, which points to a deeper aspect of your experience—that your experience is infinite. The infinite nature of experience is what creates the illusion of an outside! If you don't understand this and say it's wrong, you just believe you have a deeper understanding of experience than you do.

@Carl-Richard, why do people from your nightly dreams not exist in waking reality? Where is the internal experience of people in your nightly dream in your waking reality? You obviously understand that those people in waking reality don't exist, as the structure of the nightly dream is different than your waking reality's structure, which is why their internal experience depends on whether you dream them or not. Only you have truly been conscious of your nightly dreams, dreaming that those people are having experiences. Your nightly dream is absolute because you're not dreaming something that has its same structure, which is why your waking reality is a dream as well. Your nightly dream's existence does not depend on your waking reality, and vice versa. If the structure of your nightly dreams was the same as your waking reality, you would have experienced one type of reality, but it cannot be endlessly one type because reality would be limited, making you dream infinite types of dreams. This is not an interpretation, theory, assumption, or inference. You are ironically doing those. You are confused about this because you don't truly accept the directness of your experience, even if you say you do. Accepting that your experience is direct has its logical consequences.

You are experiencing the dreams, not them. Now, they don't exist because you're not dreaming them in this dream.

@Sugarcoat, I have given up. 😄 Look from another angle:

You think? They are. Not symbolically, but literally. Of course, when you dream them. This is the dream.