Nemra

The Truth slaps so good that I might actually see God and shout hallelujah. 😇👋

I appreciate the directness!

I find it interesting and frightening at the same time that there is a possibility of having a sudden intense Awakening experience sober that is equally profound when taking a psychedelic. To be honest, I never thought it would happen to me. Today I woke up from sleeping, at which I had a dream of me living a totally different life for decades. When I suddenly woke up, I couldn't bear the reality that it ended and now I'm in a different reality. The thought of neither one being less real in my mind triggered an Awakening experience which led me to recognize that this reality is a dream through and through. I was swimming in pure NOTHINGNESS and EMPTYNESS for a minute. The distinction between my nightly dreams and waking reality was TOTALLY unimagined. I was left ALONE, because I am DREAMING the dream that everyone is part of. Endlessly Melting! Too profound! The realization that no one has truly awakened or will ever wake up other than myself is truly shocking!

"God" is probably one of the most abused words. People use it to brainwash others. Does that restrict us to use that word?

Money is very hypnotic. The anchors of the hypnosis are the stuff that money gives you access to.

That's genius. 🥹

If you could only choose to use one psychedelic for the rest of your life, which one would it be?

I want to try that one day. Sometimes the worst thing that happens to us is the best thing in retrospect.

What movie have you recently watched, or are you now watching? I have yet to finish watching the movie "The Irishmen".

It really makes a difference to have a genuine intention of knowing the truth about something. It's genius. If truth didn't exist, how come you can have that intention? Even if you deceive yourself into thinking that you have that intention, how can the deception be about something that is not about deception? How can you counterfeit money that doesn't exist?

Great example! 😆

Yeah. It is literally the act of copying the characteristics of your own experience and attaching it to some sensory phenomenon while imagining the experience that sensory phenomenon is having based entirely on what you have directly perceived over the years.

Imagination is a wild thing. I would add that those indirect experiences are less fundamental in their nature than direct experience, because the idea of indirect experience is built on top of your direct experience, even if you imagine that there are experiences out there existing with yours. But I assume you got what I said. 🙂

The correct way would be to say that the experiences that parts are having in your own experience (other people) is an imagination on top of your own experience, because your experience is direct. To say that there are other experiences happening beside your experience is false. To say that people cannot reflect some experience you might have is also false. The imagination of other people's experience existing is itself direct as it is happening in your experience. However, what the imagination refers to can never be direct. Non-direct experiences do not exist the same way as direct experience; they are not actual. The latter is more fundamental. The problem is that treating non-direct experiences as actual comes from ignoring that you are imagining qualia as non-self-evident to construct the idea of non-direct experiences. Let's say you are a writer. Do the experiences of the characters you create actually exist? No, you just imagine their experiences as if they are actual.

Years back I would have ignored her experience by labeling it as merely religious belief and not real. But now I can empathize with her. It's profound; it brings tears to my eyes.

I think this thread is getting derailed too much.

@cetus, I am imagining non-direct experiences on top of my experience. That construction is built on top of the fact that some part of my experience can be aware of what I can experience, which is a deeper thing than the first one I said. I'm enjoying the show.

It's an understanding that came from deconstruction. But sure, I cannot hold some crazy states like God-Consciousness. Why does having a conversation with anyone contradict understanding that there is only one experience?

Something similar to that by deconstructing my sensory fields. I was shocked when I realized that there is only one experience, whatever that is, and I am the only one who is truly experiencing. Have you noticed that there is only one of everything? 🙂

😁 There is a comedy sketch in which an old lady and a businessman are praying. The old lady prays to God to give her some money and the businessman prays to God to give him an expensive car. Both are praying so hard that the businessman gets annoyed with the old lady and gives her the amount of money she wanted. 😂

Almost forgot that at school we used to recite prayers from the Quran, Coptic Christian, and Orthodox Christian traditions before beginning literature or religious classes.

There was a literature professor in my university that made us do Christian prayer for the exam and our grades depended on how authentically we prayed. 🤣

As a kid mostly surrounded by Christians and went to church (not of my own volition), I'm glad that I haven't taken Christianity too seriously and I never read the Bible. I had the intuition that those people are being conformist about it as they treat some words as the truth over experience. Why should I read some stories about God? I felt that if something is true it cannot be dependent on the Bible. My hatred of reading books came from observing how Christians are eager to worship their stories. I'm an alien around where I live.

What is magical is that, because the whole field is infinite, there is a part of it that is exactly as you imagine it to be—regardless of how restricted your imagination is, which I think serves as an interesting proof that reality itself is absolute imagination. Your restricted imagination maps perfectly onto specific parts of the whole field, meaning the entire field is composed of different orders of imagination. The thing is that you cannot alter higher orders of this field if your current state remains restricted from accessing them.