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Yes, the honesty must be an aspect of the inquiry. Simplifying was also a big part of the journey. It's possible to now look back on the adventure with a bit of nostalgia while giggling at the insanity of it all, but there's a deep awareness of what precipitated the 'need'. All good.

Yeah, the confusion that many of the sand dealers have created has left things in quite a mess. It doesn't help that the journey itself is quite destabilizing and confusing already. Sometimes the intentions of the nonsense seems meant to push the mind over/through a threshold, or just to throw the mind enough that it drops and gets an insight. At others, it's apparent they have no grasp of what they're selling. It's almost like a mento-physical three-card monte routine, so it's rife with deception, much like the mind's little 'separate volitional person' game.

Um, OK. But once Truth has been apprehended, and the mind has been relegated to its role as the cool tool for navigating the world, there's also freedom to interact within contexts of a discussion... maybe even share jokes, insights, and stories. Throwing out ND lingo and reasoning and/or reducing every discussion to bare bones Truth-talk at every turn is not necessary. However, if one is still in the process of burning through the mind's nonsense in a post-apocalypse mode, I do understand. Some call it cleaning house, and it can get rabid and feverish. All good. The mind can be enjoyed whilst not necessarily always trusting it; it has its flaws, to be sure. No biggie. It's kinda snorta like an existential relationship with 'someone' you know all too intimately, love them nonetheless, bu take the time to help them stay conscious.

Sand does not quench, so no need to guzzle. And don't trust water dealers out next to the mirages, hehe.

So you see, the analogy rings 'true', perhaps to a higher order of mind, releasing a degree of tension. Where and when those insights will arise is unknown, but can be like clues to a direction to take. Always beginner's mind.... not knowing, but brave enough to flow. Sure, it can be characterized as a seeing through (clarity), a letting go (contentment/calmness), a deconstruction/dissolution (samadhi), etc. Words won't do it justice, simply because words engage the mind and are liable to hit anything. I have always been curious about such neurochemical aspects, but don't know much about the veracity of such claims with respect to cause-and-effect. Maybe you can share what you know. But yes, there is a cautionary aspect to such an undertaking. It is quite challenging to the mind to more-or-less turn itself inside out in an attempt to 'understand' what's pointed to and question one's beliefs (inquiry/contemplation), and/or attempt to subvert it entirely (meditation). Massive amounts of solitude in nature, making music, reading literature, and contemplation helped to work through this mind's vagaries. But yeah, it was dodgy there for quite a bit, hehe.

From what is read in your posts, yes, you use the mind in a very sane way. It's very good to have stabilized in such a balanced way. Respect. Yes, to live in the world, the mind is engaged in its functional capacity to play with, manipulate, or rationalize what's apparent. Existentially, the mind itself is soooomewhat one of those appearances. Phenomenology engages the mind to think about the nature of being. So, the question is, is the mind itself a phenomenon? What's pointed to in the discussion with @James123 is the trans-rational nature of realization, or one might define it as pre-rational.... it is not of the mind. As was said, sometimes it takes 2-3 days of meditation to get back to the 'magic of experience'. See how that works? So, the question is, is mind beyond/prior to BEING? Can phenomenology, physics, ontology ever just BE, or do they arise in the mind? I understand what you mean by 'differentiate', but would it be clearer that it 'distinguishes' objects/things in awareness? What is an illusion when it is seen for what it is? Does it still trick the mind, or is the mind just informed of its illusive quality(-ies)? But yes, most discussions approach the search using the rational faculties of the mind. It's much like being thirsty, and going out to the mirage in the desert seeking water, only to find sand. The mind doth protest, is often quite thirsty to function in its capacity, so it keeps doing it... over and over and over. Many so called teachers, claiming they have found water, will be out there amongst the mirages.... selling sand, but telling you it's water. What informs the mind of the illusive nature of the mirage, how it won't quench one's thirst, or whether the purveyor of Truth is selling water or sand?

Simplicity as the suchness

Yes, the reacting to thoughts typically involves thinking and storytelling, and speerchuality typically involves thinking about/personalized storytelling/analyzing them, etc, potentially creating a bigger mess. Happens a lot. Refraining from 'adding' a concept here, as there doesn't seem to be any need. So, in essence, what's realized is that there never really is separation between 'experienced and experiencer', thus negating the illusion of any duality. There is actually never really any becoming, per se, just the realization of what always IS, without the layer of thought. That is, duality is all just a trick of the mind, its ignorance of what is already whole, not two, no other.

There's a lot to be observed and taken in in any new culture: stereotypes, nuances, reasoning, contextual clues, and all the rest. To get through the culture shock and adapt/accept requires a conscious learning and a strong degree of self awareness. But yes, the Japanese are a very interesting bunch. I learned a lot during the expansive and implosive years surrounding and including my time there. Curious, how did you decide on a junk boat as your avatar pic? I used to enjoy watching those in Hong Kong. Didn't see many last time I was there.

I might say mind is illusive in that it can only deal in probabilities, as interpretations of what in blazes is actually going on. That we use mind to think about thoughts alludes to 'mind cannot rise above itself' as mentioned to @Anton Rogachevski. Things often begin to go awry, especially when the patterns of thoughts/reason evolved unconsciously throughout life as coping mechanisms, denial strategies, numbing escapes, and the like. 'Tis the problem with self, which is, existentially speaking, an illusion... always changing, never actually an object, but more of a contextual amalgamation based on memory and assumption. But it's impossible to explain that away.... gotta be SEEN for what it is. That's Ramana's Nan Yar.... gotta SEE it oneself. But the thoughts/thinking do continue to arise, at least for most. So being conscious of when mind is engaged and remaining aware of its patterns is waking up to its construct: strengths, weaknesses, shenanigans, and all.... is putting it in its place (secondary in the flow of consciousness). Thoughts/words are not the actuality, just at least once removed. That's why hearsay is (at least relatively) more unreliable, as are our conditioned beliefs (lots of hearsay). And when you throw in time/memory, the potential for more delusion and unreliability only increases. That's one of the problems with conflating states of mind (which come and go) with realization or Truth, at least in how I express it. But yes, existentially speaking, whoever said, "There is no time like the present" was right!

As in the Course in Miracles, yes? I must say, I was a little interested to see a Deadhead speaking of Jesus on this website. Times are interesting. Great, unlearning is a big factor, to be sure. It's more or less a 'becoming conscious of and letting go process', yes? If comfortable with doing so, please share what you mean by "Jesus then began to reveal himself quite quickly, as a kind of inner guide or higher self. But it took me a long time to accept him and begin to understand what he is really about." What would you say about differentiating between say, Jesus the man versus the realization as the Christ? According to the Bible, Jesus is claimed to have said, "I and the Father are One".......“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” (John 10:30-38). What do you think was meant by that? It is self honesty that helps deepen the understanding of how the mind works. It sounds like you've gotten over 'the hump', so to speak, and are appreciating some peace from a previous storm. Take your time---- lots of cool Dead songs about the journey.

The mind is a tool, not the master sort of dealio. Living in the world, conscious of the mind and its propensities. Would you say that the voice you're referring to is more akin to the bicameral mind ish, or would you attribute it to some of the mother-father conditioning stuff (i.e., inner critic, self-concept, attachment, trauma)? Or perhaps how the latter shaped the former?

All good. You do you! I'm old and just have a variety of pre-Internet skills that still work. I even used a typewriter for undergrad work . Luckily, during my early professional life, they developed the Internet before I returned to school and did my dissertation. Your predicament just sounded so much like my students', who always tried to tackle the blob. Granted they were just writing extended essays, not theses. I'm sure you'll be fine. G'luck!

A brief history via a map for those not aware or may have just been absent that day in 3rd grade (and give a 💩) .

Perspective by AI in the Sky Crime rates and immigration in the U.S. over the last 20 years. Key Findings and Data Points: Overall Trends: Multiple studies and analyses indicate that immigrants, including undocumented immigrants, generally have lower crime rates than native-born Americans. Some research even suggests that increased immigration may be associated with decreased crime rates. Historical Data (1980-2022): A comparison of crime and demographic data from 1980 to 2022 showed that as the immigrant share of the population more than doubled (from 6.2% to 13.9%), the total crime rate dropped by 60.4%. Incarceration Rates: Immigrants have had lower incarceration rates than the native-born population since at least 1870. [1][3] In 2020, immigrants were reportedly 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals. Texas Data: Texas, the only state that tracks criminal arrests and convictions by immigration status, has found that immigrants of all legal statuses were arrested at less than half the rate of U.S.-born citizens for violent and drug crimes. Recent Data (2017-2022): From 2017 to 2022, the immigrant share of the U.S. population rose, while the national total crime rate dropped by 15.3%. Incarceration Rates (2023): In 2023, the incarceration rate for native-born Americans was 1,221 per 100,000, while for illegal immigrants it was 613 per 100,000, and for legal immigrants, it was 319 per 100,000. Second Generation: Crime rates tend to rise among second-generation immigrants compared to first-generation immigrants, often approaching the rates of native-born Americans.

No bueno.

I've been in so many countries where border enforcement is not only worse, it's damn near impossible. The Pakistan/Afghan border comes to mind. I suspect it's even in Merriam-Webster for 'porous', hehe.

Buenoooooo!! You young folks looooove the screeeeeens, dontcha?!

Yes, that might be considered the 'impersonal' aspect, when one can at least dis-identify from the self construct, seeing the mind's movements more objectively. It's definitely higher order than all the self-referential thinking that most are lost in and/or wholly identified with. The witness can at least laugh at the silliness one used to get so wound up in, and not take the self so seriously. That's always noice.

The mind can only deal with so much info at a time. The 200 pages is a now a BLOB, and it creates resistance. This is a success-oriented approach used by 100s of my students/trainees. There's no short cut to successful completion. Breaking the thesis down into sections, then breaking down the sections down into paragraphs is breaking down the cognitive load into manageable chunks. The notecards help you move ideas around and internalize the ideas as you move through the project. Otherwise, the overwhelm gives way to procrastination. If you are trying to do it all on a screen and remembering that insane amount of info, location and detail, welp, goooood luck. Imagine your room floor covered in notecards with specific details, examples, anecdotes etc.... HOW can you remember all that? Why even try? Get real and go old school. Eventually, the organization will begin to become more automated, but you have to start from scratch. Once you get more comfortable with the structure, the time on screen can/will increase. Right now... it's just blob and confusion. It sounds like you are dealing with the perfection-procrastination conundrum. It's a losing battle with a self-fulfilling prophecy of uuugggghhh..... start small, brick by brick, and get good at it. Build complexity, and refine the product in phases. C'mon, girl!!

@Judy2 How long is it? Buy two packs of 100 blank note cards. Write your skeleton: thesis statement topics for section of the thesis topic sentences for the paragraphs conclusion ideas (optional... usually comes last, when all is said and done, and in a moment of clarity when the whole point of the essay really emerges with an big insight) Break down the research into the chunks (sections.... and then paragraphs) Transfer key ideas, examples, data points, etc to notecards and place them between the topic sentences in order Number the notecards and keep a running order of the bibliography in a notebook Start to place the notecards in order of the thesis ------- your room should start looking like a crazy person lives there (Beautiful Mind style) Take pictures on occasion in case you want to look back at changes (or lose them somehow) Rinse repeat ad nauseum During and by the end of the process, your mind will start to internalize and write the thesis Type like the crazy academic writing sister you are without stop, maybe on stimulants like coffee or guarana (or whatever) Do NOT stop and edit. DO NOT STOP AND EDIT or reconsider anything.... just type what you've organized TYPE Walk away for 1-2-3 days Come back for revisions break hours/days Come back for revisions break hours/days Come back for revisions break hours/days Celebrate EDIT with a fine toothed comb. break hours/days Re-edit Celebrate These are all baby steps and times for cognition.... one step at a time. It will change a lot and eventually start to write itself.

Absolutely agree. Everyone must see for themselves. Contemplation, questioning, and taking out the garbage are key. Space and clarity are what emerges, and no one can give it or do it for you. Ironically, on a psychological level, it is mostly about unlearning, and adding concepts may/may not take up unnecessary space.

As I stated in my reply above, it's kinda when the mind is so caught up in the drama it has created about and/or around the self, that it is not even aware of its own contradictions or self-sabotage/self-destructive capacities. It's more or less akin or related to the split-mind theory (aka, dual consciousness), maybe related to bicameral mentality.

When the mind becomes unconscious of what it is doing (often triggered and goes unconscious leading to addictions and escapes), believes the world it has constructed as independent of 'external reality' is factual/true, regardless of the evidence otherwise. That sort of thing. Direct experience of the individuated mind and/or being honest about misperceptions is fine. I have not read your study, so maybe the incongruent terminology is a factor. Not sure. But, to be clear, it's not my field, so I may not be up to speed on the nuances of what your study deals with.