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Session Eight: 35 minutes. Peace. Stillness. Today I was filled with doubt about God and Oneness. Little glimpses of God structure gave these doubts a little slap with the back hand No deep and clear memory flashbacks this time. But had many interesting ideas and plans what to do with this wonderful moment. Ideas were mostly about food like to prepare and stuff I want to do in the gym. Sounds petty, but thats what makes enjoyable for me right now. Happiness. At the end I "dropped" under my perception of reality and felt this surrounding nothingness in and around me. Reality was just this thing in front of me, which is contained in nothingness.

This resonates well with my understanding of God realization. I've experienced it four times, with LSD (with up to 1000μg). There was absolutely no speck of a doubt, that I'am God. Every "other" merged into this singular ungraspable point of stillness and Love. Unbelievable, shocking, ecstatic. In face of such mind devastating realization I was quick to say that had to be infinity. But now I'am sitting here, contemplating how I can be so sure about this conclusion. And I don't find anything satisfying in being skeptic. I just want to be absolutely sure about how I see reality.

@Judy2 For me its absolutely clear, that everything is just consciousness. That the ego is an illusion, that this experience right now is the only thing that has and will ever happen. However, all these insights can be explained with finite consciousness. Don't forget, finitude can be arbitrary large. Everything that has every happened to you can be inside of a finite frame. Yet, Leo claims absolute, undoubtable INFINITY INFINITY INFINITY (TIMES INFINITY) !!! is the necessary for solipsism and Oneness to work. I don't see how "Not knowing" will help me with that questions.

@Judy2 I don't see how this relates to finite consciousness or infinite consciousness. Realizing No-Self/Nothingness can still perfectly be explained in the materialistic paradigm. Infinity cant, hence the post above.

Exactly. Still, the question remains, is Oneness/Infinity actually to be found in reality or is it just a ungraspable huge, yet finite thing with the label "infinity" on it. Hopefully, you see my problem now.

The ultimate "end to all solipsism questions" video is his "Guided Exercise For Realizing You Are God" video.

10 minutes before the video got taken down, there were only positive comments. Most people, who watch his videos so early are subscribers, who are fine with Leos teachings. Besides that, when did Leo ever take a video down because of rude comments? If anything, his "outrageous experiment in consciousness" video would be the first one to delete after that logic.

Have watched over two hours of it. Nothing fundamentally new has been said. Maybe there was a big outrageous claim at the end. But I really doubt it gets more outrageous, than YOU ARE GOD.

Your content about God realization was at least as radical as this episode. Why take it down then?

We leave the topic of this thread here, but yes the Kardashians and catholic church deserve every penny they get. Just because we can't appreciate their value, doesn't mean they have none for some. For a fundamental christian the church offers so much value. I'm to lazy to think about a fitting example for the Kardashians, but the structure stays the same. And Eckhart Tolle has massive value for a conscious developing humanity.

He associated so much suffering with his old name "Leonard Ulrich Tolle", that he wanted to change it. In a dream he was called Eckhart. And as woman called him Eckhart in real life, because she intuited that would be his name, he decide to change that.

You sure have developed a strong "interpretation muscle" Money is just a signal how valuable he is for humanity. People are not recommending his work by accident.

Eckhart is open about psychedelics. He openly spoke about taking LSD, to get a perspective on "psychedelic awakened people". However, he didn't recommend it. Being aware is enough for him.

If I remember correctly, he chose to live on a park bench for two years after that. Seems like something happened.

Eckhart Tolle had what I would call a suffering awakening. He was deeply disgusted with his mind made suffering, that his "Self" devided from his "I". People experience this while attempting suicide. It seems that your ego doesn't just give room for awakening that easily.

In general interviews of any kind. In his videos Leo argues with imaginary others, who's arguments are sometimes so dumb and linear. It's really worth the effort to put a real human being in front of him. Although I can see that content suffers in an interview format.

To make things even worse cannabis has about 52 different neuroactive components, in which THC is just one of them. All of these components interact in a messy and uncontrollable way with every system of your psyche. So even if you "could" grow spiritually out of an experience with cannabis, you could never replicate the dosage. Not mentioning the fact that most people smoke cannabis, which makes it even harder to dose. These are my main reasons why it's impossible not to mess with weed, regardless how responsible you are.

I've reacted very sensitive to cannabis. Most in a bad and horrifying way. No insight or spiritual wisdom was gained in ~100 cannabis experiences. Have not consumed it since 4 years. Psychedelics are the exact opposite for me. It takes about three times the usual dosages to feel LSD or Shrooms. Never had a purely bad experience. Massive and long term life altering Insights had been gained. If your mind is clear and collected, psychedelics is meditation times X. Ask yourself how meditation compares to being stoned.

Rich Piana Good visualization of how the mind made ego will go every length to butcher body and health for mental "greatness". In case you wonder, he died of heart failure.

For me it was quite the opposite. Directly realizing that your existence is Love and Love only doesn't make you sit there in silence. It's pure ecstasy. Laughter, singing, dancing is the result when every questions is answered. Just my direct experience. I don't want to force anyone into believing that he/she must have this as well.

I get the point. The insight feels wise. However, to play devils advocate I want to know what Gods infinite creativity is doing when I crave the same cheap food or porn for years. But I sense my self-bias and mental corruption in this argument. Just contemplating...

Consider that this forum is not actually 90% focused on self-help and spirituality. So take political discussion with a grain of salt.

Have you achieved your position of work by just following your passion? Or have you, similar to most successful entrepreneurs, got to this position through many twists and turns? In how many jobs have you worked before? How often have you reconsidered your decision of wanting to become an entrepreneur? How much fulfillment does your self-employment bring to you? This are the main questions, which seem to come up, when deeply contemplating about life purpose. Maybe my ultimate calling finds itself in a rather ordinary bureau job. Or not. Who knows. Interested in your views.

@Asayake Wow, thanks for sharing your POV. Would you mind telling me what you do specifically?

I'm saying something even more profound. All duality, all finiteness is willing itself into existence in order for God to love even more aspects of itself. That's why everything IS love. Love is not a product of Gods will. Gods will IS Love and vice versa. It's the beginning and end of every form. I thought about this for weeks and have not understood this insight 1%. Massive increase in consciousness is the only way here. No mental fuckery will sufficiently reveal this truth.