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I don't know, reality, it doesn't matter.

Yes because I'm forced to play, not that I want to play. I never asked for any of this shit. What am I supposed to do? Kill myself, only to find myself yet again mysteriously reappear in a life experience which I never asked for or created?

Don't assume that everyone wants to play, not even use cheat codes.

@Leo Gura Is the chemical a research chemical? At least in some countries. If yes, then it's a question of time until it gets banned. So if you wait with releasing the name, then it might be banned at that point. So then a bunch of people will miss the window of opportunity to take it, maybe including me.

There is no limit to how much bullshit humans can believe in. And maybe the worst part is that there is also no limit to how convinced humans can be that their bullshit is true. Some people can be so 100% sure about their bullshit that they don't hesitate to die for it, or kill other people for it, or whatever. I once talked to someone who told me that she's 100% sure that the earth is flat. And my mom has gradually over the recent years lost her mind, because she believes in almost every conspiracy theory there is. And of course she is 100% certain of all the bullshit. And she is constantly trying hard to convince me of all the bullshit. If the society/mainstream/scientists/politicians say something, then she immediately believes in the opposite thing. For example she thinks that covid doesn't exist, and that the vaccine is dangerous, even that masks and covid tests are dangerous. She once told me she pray every day that I wont take the vaccine, that I wont take a covid test, and that I wont use a mask. But of course I will take the vaccine immediately when it becomes available. I think humans might be more stupid than animals. Because we believe in bullshit, and maybe animals don't. This stuff applies to everyone. No one can be trusted for being sane. No one is immune against the risk of believing in bullshit. Not even Leo. Not even me. Not even you. And this of course also applies to this whole post. This entire post might be bullshit.

There will be more "dreaming". All other details is a mystery. I think people think too much about the details and don't embrace the mystery of it. When someone refuses to accept the mysteriousness, then that person often create stories about the details. For example that God creates a universe because he gets bored, or whatever. There's a endless amount of different ideas about the details.

Life is a fight. For example just think about how hard the body is working every second to stay alive.

I think you don't even need to be enlightened to understand that there's life after death. I think death can be understood logically and from own experience. After death you (Consciousness) will mysteriously reappear in a different experience. In the same way as you mysteriously always reappear from deep sleep, or from before you were born. With "mysteriously" I mean you don't know how it happened, it was something which you had no control over. Your body comes and goes, but reality cannot come and go. Your innermost being is the reality which cannot come and go. It's that which survives death. So the body is like a shell which you have. "Thus you can throw yourself flat on the ground, stretched out upon Mother Earth, with the certain conviction that you are one with her and she with you. You are as firmly established, as invulnerable as she, indeed a thousand times firmer and more invulnerable. As surely she will engulf you tomorrow, so surely will she bring you forth anew to new striving and suffering." — Erwin Schrödinger

@trenton I consider murder suffering level 0 (assuming it would happen painlessly), because that person wouldn't experience any suffering, he/she wouldn't even experience any loss (probably). But it's probably still wrong to take away something from someone. (Someone's life.) It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics you are trying to play. Suffering is bad, wrong, and evil. Period. This could be easily proven: If I would torture you or someone super close to you, then you would suddenly agree with me. But of course I wouldn't do such a thing. Or you can ask Jeff Foster: I don't need your help in this matter, but thanks.

@trenton You should do whatever causes the least amount of total suffering for everyone. So if I would hurt the guy a bit by punching him in the face (for example suffering level 15), and that saves the woman from suffering level 95, then I do the right thing if I punch the guy in the face. It's all about the math. Simply just calculate.

It's not that difficult. Whatever causes suffering to someone is wrong/evil.

I see. Thanks. Maybe that is the case, I'm open for that possibility.

Try to explain? Not just "you have to experience it yourself"..

I think all other spiritual teachers would disagree about that. (I disagree too.) For example impermanence is a cornerstone of Buddhism. Imagine someone having a deformed body because of cancer or something. Must suck to be stuck with the deformed body forever.

@Topann I agree that life sucks. But the biggest reason to not committ suicide is that it would hurt other people. Imagine doing a math calculation about which choice would create the least amount of total suffering in the world, (you+other people), and then choose the option which results in least amount of total suffering for everyone. But you are of course free to do whatever you want. Since you didn't ask to be born you don't owe anyone anything. Before parents create a new conscious being they should be aware of the risk that their child might for example committ suicide.

@Mannyb Do you ever take painkillers? What painkillers? Or some other medicine?

@trenton Other examples are cleaners, construction workers, berry pickers.

@trenton Yeah, so yes buying and selling sex should be legal. I think the law is there only because many people look down on people who buy and sell sex. They think it's disgusting. And I don't believe in the human trafficking thing. Trafficking exists in many many jobs, so why aren't those jobs illegal then? And why aren't porn illegal then? I don't think human trafficking would increase if buying/selling sex would be legal.

Either make it legal, or make all porn illegal too, because otherwise it's inconsistent. It makes no sense that having sex for money is legal as long as there's a camera recording it (porn).

People are so paranoid. Who cares. Just take the vaccine and stop caring and thinking about it. There's so much bigger things to worry about than potential microscopic risks with a vaccine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism "Antinatalism, or anti-natalism, is the ethical view that negatively values coming into existence and procreation, and judges procreation as morally wrong. Antinatalists argue that humans should abstain from procreation because it is morally wrong (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally wrong). In scholarly and in literary writings, various ethical foundations have been presented for antinatalism. Some of the earliest surviving formulations of the idea that it would be better not to have been born come from ancient Greece." https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5670/anti-natalism-is-global-and-growing "The decision to not have kids on ethical grounds is no longer a fringe, Western trend. "Life is full of suffering” is a sentiment that resonates with many. The doctrines of most of the major religions of the world concede or assert it. But if life is full of suffering, and suffering is avoidable, a simple syllogistic conclusion that follows is “life is avoidable”. Obviously, this stand has few takers. But that is changing, all over the world. The idea is often seen as a trait of highly-developed societies who have achieved relative stability and prosperity in terms of living standards, and can focus on finer ethical and lifestyle issues and concerns. Google Trends Analytics indicates that “antinatalism” as a search term has steadily grown in search volume in this decade." For example Arthur Schopenhauer was a antinatalist. This guy sued his parents for giving birth to him without his consent: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/anti-natalists-childfree-population-climate-change Another thing is that without humans also the environment would be saved. I think Buddhism is a form of antinatalism, since it recognizes that life is suffering and it advocates celibacy and it's about stopping the cycle of rebirth (Samsara) https://www.quora.com/Does-Buddhism-have-antinatalism-ideas David Benatar has written a book about this subject, titled "Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence". https://www.amazon.com/Better-Never-Have-Been-Existence-ebook/dp/B000TODSCY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 I found this somewhere on the internet: "If a being exists, suffering is bad and pleasure is good. However, if a being does not exist, missing out on pleasure isn't bad, however missing out on suffering is good. In other words, life is suffering. Suffering is bad. Therefore, it's better to not be born, so that we never experience suffering." A more extreme version of antinatalism is efilism. Which says that all sentient life should be exterminated in a humane and painless way. This person has a idea with self-replicating nanobots which could euthanize all life on earth, and they would also make sure that life can't re-emerge: https://www.theantinatalist.com/frontpage/on-efilism-1 I know everyone in this forum will be against antinatalism, because you are invested survival, so you will immediately violently attack this. I will try to not argue for antinatalism, at least not without getting a permission from Leo first, because I would probably get banned if I would argue for antinatalism. I just wanted to bring up this topic and ask you all: what is your thoughts about this whole antinatalism thing?

@Emerald Yes, you're sharp and beautiful like a emerald/diamond/crystal.

@TheDao Ok I'm done with this discussion. There is no point in talking with someone who denies both experience and scientific evidence.

https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spring/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different.html "New technologies have generated a growing pile of evidence that there are inherent differences in how men’s and women’s brains are wired and how they work."