Blackhawk

Omg. No. Just no. That's the conspiracy theory which Kremlin wants you to believe in.

Because countries wanted to secure their security for the future, while they could. The best time to become a Nato member is when there is deep peace and calm. So your country will be safe in the future. For Ukraine it's way too late to become a Nato member, because of Russia's offenses. It's maybe too late for Sweden and Finland to join too, because of Putin. We should have joined before the war, when there was peace and calm (except the war in eastern Ukraine). So maybe we have to wait many years until Russia stops with the offenses, and then join. So that's why countries join Nato when there's no offenses happening.

@Preety_India Btw, I have read that there's lots of pro-Russia propaganda/disinformation in India. So watch out for that..

Sigh. Nato raises their defense as a response to Russia raising their offense. (And also as a response to China raising their offense.) Why do I even write here..

You can understand the shit perfectly clear, but also understand that Putin and the people in Kremlin aren't decent normal people. That they are evil people. Just like you can perfectly understand why Hitler did the shit which he did, but also understand how evil it was. @Preety_India I don't like how you are trying to raise up Putin and lower Zelenskyj. Trying to put them at the same level. They aren't the same. They aren't even comparable. Zelenskyj is the victim here. They haven't done anything to deserve the barbaric aggression from Putin.

So you think that we shouldn't demonize Russia/Putin.. Dude. Do you understand how wrong, unempathetic, immoral, cruel, barbaric, evil, and wrong the war against Ukraine is? Do you understand how much unnecessary suffering it creates? And then you (and Leo is kind of saying the same thing I think) say that we shouldn't demonize Russia/Putin??? That shit makes me angry. Wtf is wrong with you people. I live in Sweden, only the fact that my parents are originally from Finland makes me super biased about Finland. And I'm not even born there.

So let's let Putin take the entire planet then. And then Russia can rename earth to "Russia".

I know I'm right.

@tsuki I think you are naive/gullible, but okay. Maybe you'll change your mind if he invades a second country. Or starts carpet bombing entire cities in Ukraine. We'll see. My stance is this: Putin and Kremlin are evil. They lie and lie and create narratives and you guys are buying it all. You are naive/gullible.

Exactly. The only reason why they invaded is because they are evil.

Yes you are wrong.

Haven't you learned that everything which Putin says is a lie? He didn't invade because of the Nato thing, that was just a pretext. Ukraine wasn't even close to becoming a Nato member anyway. And his demands was impossible to grant anyway, and he knew it. "Putin nurses a deep sense of grievance over the loss of Russia’s power and influence since the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991. Ukraine was formerly part of the Soviet Union but declared its independence in 1991. Having a prosperous, modern, independent and democratic European state bordering Russia was perceived as posing a threat to Russia’s autocratic regime. If Ukrainians succeeded in fully reforming their country along lines of other western democracies, it would set a bad precedent for former Soviet countries and serve as an example for Russians who want a more democratic country." https://theconversation.com/why-did-russia-invade-ukraine-faqs-about-the-conflict-that-has-shocked-the-world-177963

Can you answer this.. Which country/countries would be the first aggressor and invade Russia?

@Eternity ?

@Ananta Trump sucks, Biden rocks.

No, that's not evidence. It might be a coincidence that it happened when Biden is the president. Putin has been building up the military, and he probably calculated that the military wasn't powerful enough until now. The only reason why you think that Biden is weak is because he is old, doesn't walk like a strong man, and can sometimes stumble with words when he speaks. The primitive reptilian unconscious part of your brain registers those things, and then you falsely think that he is weak. Yes physically he is weak, but not his mind and heart/soul. He is actually strong as hell.

And what is your evidence that Russia wouldn't have attacked Ukraine if Trump had been president?

I think the next election will be Trump vs Biden again? And then you will desperately want Trump again and vote for him. Which is insane.

And he said that Putin is a genius, or something like that.

But you are wrong. It does affect me which president US has. The president could for example damage or destroy alliances and cooperations which US has with for example Sweden. The president could also cause a world war, harm the climate, etc. And no, Trump was not a good president, he was a terrible president. He doesn't accept the legitimate result of a democratic election. He is lying about that the election was rigged. He is against democracy, he is trying to dismantle the democracy in your country. He created the insane MAGA movement. He created the worldwide epidemic of various insane conspiracy theories, which btw I suffer greatly from. They destroyed my mom's mind, nowdays she only believes in conspiracy theories, and I have to listen to her talk about them, which drives me nuts. He caused the storming of the Capitol. He's a racist. He's a pathological liar. He was a antivaxxer. Etc. All these things makes him a bad president, because they cause him to make bad decisions.

It's very easy to blame everything which is bad on someone who you personally don't like. But there is no evidence that a different president would have done better.

The only reason why people like Trump is because he is good at talking, and good at manipulating. Like Hitler, he was popular because people liked the way how he talked, he mesmerized people, like Trump does, but he was a monster. And the only reason why people hate Biden is because he is old. It's primitive dumb animal behavior to dismiss someone only because he/she is old. Jesus Christ.. use the part of your brain which isn't primitive. Even if he stumbles with words sometimes, not even that means that he's stupid or something like that.

https://yle.fi/news/3-12337202 "For first time, Yle poll shows majority support for Finnish Nato application" Incredible. Huge change in support for a Nato membership. It has gone up with 34% ?

A video by RT? Nice joke.

Maybe. Right now I can't prove or disprove that that's true.