Natasha Tori Maru

This is me, disappointed. I really do respect you @UnbornTao. I appreciate your input and your open, deep enquiry you contribute to discussions here. It is very unique. Lends nuance and always attempts to drive at our assumptions, misconceptions and presuppositions. I'll own my disappointment. Mostly confusion. Self generated through investing. I'm out.

https://youtu.be/Xgaj5suTCgk?si=NSdSS22sLdDyfPyy

On you to clarify that, in that case. The words you chose do indeed broadcast the tone I raised. The above is gaslighting. You, yourself, stated above 'I get irritated with all this'. That came out. Irrespective of whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

@UnbornTao because you think I have a belief, you deem it acceptable to speak to me in that way? This is some mental gymnastics to avoid the fact you are, for some reason, emotionally upset by this discussion. You are the one making the claim you know 'what others are listening to, or hearing', while simultaneously implying you understand what Ralston is saying. Despite you professing 'I don't listen either'. The statements imply otherwise. And I suspect you state this to try to level yourself with others. Do you not think, that even thinking you understand what another user understands, is arrogant? Without even asking enquiry questions to prove the reality of the situation. This is actually about what YOU believe regarding cults, I suspect.

@UnbornTao regardless of your answer, I certainly won't engage now. Thank you

There's no need for that. I apologise if I have offended you. I feel this is quite dismissive, condescending, passive aggressive & broadcasts superiority. Like engaging is beneath you 'I don't take you seriously, so I won't engage you further'. I have seen you use this tactic before. Really mean spirited. Why would you say this?!?

@Hojo you just described building context! Hahaha That's a lot of mental gymnastics to get out of fucking up your statements. I understand what you mean, but this is ALSO ego from you!

Your claim was you do not build context - you contradicted yourself. 'Listening to the whole' is building context around a user.

@Carl-Richard Starseed films - sides are in orbit. He looks like a foot speaking to me...

@CARDOZZO My GOD I have this movie playing right now. The fuck! It is a rewatch. 100% on different kinds of love - and this is sort of what I am pointing to. There is a lot to 'love' or 'Love' if you will

Desk + ergonomic chair that suits me well. Dual screen 27 inch + 32 inch curved. Mouse, keyboard and the 8bit controller. If that's what you refer to as 'setup'. Battlestation etc I still go ham at the PC games, it's just my preference it to plant my skinny arse on the chaise lounge (which isn't near the PC side of the apartment).

It is just what I see.

What IS talked about. Not what is left out. By paying attention, what exactly do you mean? Where am I coming from? From experience?

As an example, I don't think Ralston has grasped Love.

I actually agree with this. Through my own experience. @UnbornTao I think you often put to much stock in Ralston. I might say this because I rarely see you deviating into any critical analysis of his work, just mutual agreement or pointing. Which is all well and good. But sometimes it looks like proselytizing.

He does mention states a lot. What is he referencing states in relation to?

Oh yes indeed, definitely did the research and have an excellent desk chair 😃 I think it could be an psychological issue; I work at a desk most days. Could be something about my associations with that body position and needing to 'work', detracting from my ability to relax. Only I can answer this, I shall think on it. I will stand and game over sit at the desk. Not for want of comfort either. Humans make no sense. Stupid conditioning.

It is my understanding he is on board with 'states', states of being, but will not apply that to consciousness or awareness. I recall him elucidating 'states of consciousness' implies levels. Implying some progress to an end, or goal. Or aim. And that that is NOT IT. It gets in the way. I think he steers students away from this as it detracts from engagement with what just is, plainly, absent of all concept, overlay or idea. I am not directly quoting here but paraphrasing what I have heard Ralston reiterate multiple times, threaded through many YouTube sessions. At the very heart of the issue could simply be a language nuance.

The Vow - excellent. That cult is fucken OFF THE CHAIN level of brainwashing. LOZ: Tears of the Kingdom: I am almost done with it, been slowly enjoying it. No rush. I do actually agree with you regarding bloom. Excellent game. Do you use a mouse and keyboard or controller? I have to admit, I love nothing more than a controller + sink into couch, dim lights gaming session. Sitting at a PC can kill it for me a bit. This could be purely because I did it for years abusing WoW. I have an 8bitdo ultimate. It was gifted to me, but I haven't tried any other controllers with PC. Goes.

@Leo Gura like two bulls locking horns. Unstoppable force meets an immovable object 🤜🤛

Ah! The YouTube released snippets of the book, narratived by Ralston, made me think he could be going this way. Pending mortality can really change us.

Don't you fucking 'Isness' me! 😃 But I do actually agree - he is what, 76 now? Very vital character. It can be quite deceiving.

Quite the morbid turn. Real. But morbid

🤢🤮 Laughed though 😃

I am glad I could put it to words to be understood. Feelings and emotions can be nebulous in nature. I find in general people are much more willing to contemplate the existential nature of a cup; the ontology of a table. Looking into feelings / emotions causes one to balk and withdraw. Feeling & emotions are such an important part of being human, yet most just gloss it all over - totally assuming they know what a feeling is. 'Oh I am just angry' and that's that. I don't think many people even know what their emotions are to even accuracy label them. I ask others questions about nuances + describe anxiety/stress/worry and the differences? You will find many people just lump all the nuance of feeling under something like 'worry', 'angry' and be done with it. No further investigation needed. This sort of investigation works at our core conditioning and can lead to great progress. Walking emotion/feeling constipated people everywhere hehe 🙃