Natasha Tori Maru

Out of curiosity - how many mediums have you experienced in the domain of painting? Or drawing? It took me many, many years to even get to the level I am currently at with oils, and I do not consider myself an expert or master at all. Below is oil on canvas, and a biro/paper exercise. This took years of training hands on with a master. Although, I did have a lot of inherent talent to begin with. I fundamentally disagree is it easy to do. @Hardkill I agree regarding the masters you listed. They were not recognised fully at the time due to how much their works skullfucked people's brains in terms of what was defined as 'high art'. This whole topic is very, very subjective & nuanced. Really? I never thought of it as ego. It assuredly could be viewed us such. It feels ego-less in the state of creation. Like i am lost and possessed by the paint and the canvas. Like "I" so to speak, no longer exist. It all comes through me in the name of beauty.

I definitely did not receive your original words as seeing women as purely sexual objects. I reflected on your post and saw the wider pattern of both sexes viewing each other as objects 🙏🙃 You have an awesome perspective imo, as it relates across domains. Wholesome and always open to new concepts/perspectives. I agree regarding sex. It is much more fundamental than women want to acknowledge, in my opinion. I have strange views on this arena that most women hate me for - but I firmly believe women need to put effort into ensuring they are open, engaged and looking forward to sex with their man. It is a need for men. Just as emotional engagement is a need for women (from men). I consider it part of my responsibility in a relationship to ensure I am firmly in a 'sexy' mindset. The above - women feeling in the 'mood' for sex - and who is responsible for that, is an issue. Women need to take charge and prioritise sex and romance. Sometimes when I feel I am not in the mood (or ambivalent), I won't say no. Because I know if I surrender 99% of the time I'm going to love it! Like exercise. Sometimes I feel a bit tired at the end of the day. I sort of cannot be fucked. But I never regret it 😁 but this takes confidence, respect and firm boundaries to operate like this.

I might need some additional context to answer more cleanly; do you mean this from a romantic angle, or perhaps more broad as it applies to all relationships?

@Joseph Maynor @Ramasta9 I adore the sounds of birds and nature. The rich texture! I especially love when music is recorded in unusual settings; Led Zeppelin's When the Levee Breaks (recorded in a hallway with mics at the top of the stairs) and many of Fever Ray's recordings are performed outdoors. The soundstage is as full as the music, melody, rhythm and silence in between. Music is like a metaphor for the ontology of the universe to me. Beat. Space. Emptiness. Fullness. All at the same time. Both and none. The space that surrounds the music and how it is recorded is felt and sensed in such a visceral way. But this is just another element of music I enjoy. I always notice the space between sounds when out in nature listening to the river swim and birds sing.

What makes the first impression on you when listening to a tune, rhythm or melody? Do you play music, or dance? Many dancers and drummers I know tend toward noticing rhythm first, movement & beat. Other musicians hear the emotional crescendos of the melody & sequential pitches. I do not know if there is any pattern to be found here. I am a dancer and only ever learned some drums and a touch of bass guitar (rhythm). I have always heard the beat and rhythm first. It catches me before the melody. I feel the beat in my body as movement, I feel the melody as an emotional weight in my chest and heart 😃

@Eskilon probably viewing other people as tools to masterbate with, rather than living beings (outside of value providing), might help. I do not mean this exclusively regarding sex either. But this is against the current mainstream narrative (not saying you subscribe to this mentality 🙏). I think many people these days do not know how to have relationships. Family, sexually, mutually. We have inoculated ourselves against this knowing with modern technology & the insular bubbles around us it creates. Even the reductionary way people look at each other to provide some form of value exchange is pretty sad. To give and ask nothing in return. Motherhood teaches women this. But less and less women choose this sacrifice. Society is probably in process working out balance, with the pendulum swinging to extremes before settling to a balanced rest. Finding our feet, so to speak. I hope, at least. Perhaps I am the eternal optimist 😊

@Nick_98 wtf this is deranged 💀🤣

Let's just throw away our sovereignty. Sounds good!

It's this crazy independence epidemic, as a core element. Independence is the new definition for what it means to be healthy and empowered. This isn't necessarily true; you are still fully engaged in a social system, benefiting from the collective. Nothing about an extreme is healthy. We won't always BE independent. We WILL need help, eventually, or at points on our lives. As you age up this becomes clearer and clearer. This is healthy. Needed. Women need to make space for men in their lives. They need to learn to accept the abundance and providing a man can bring; and not view it as a threat to their safety. Not view it as control (financial, physical etc). This is a tough lesson in balance. When this balance isn't had you see men giving up due to women cucking them and killing their natural masculinity. I see many women these days completely uncomfortable with simply receiving a compliment from a man.

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Yeah, hardmaxxing is where it steps into cope territory. Overinvesting in one area is never a good strategy. You want to get past the character selection screen to actually play the game.

@Joshe your words ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Plus a whole bunch more assumptions and inferences.

Exactly 😈 Always what we claim is something others do, as a judgement/denial, is usually precisely what we also do, unconsciously and unclaimed, within ourselves.

Of course it is worth it. The mistake many make is that it accounts for all domains of attraction. Looksmaxxing is nothing new. The name is just a rebrand of what women have done - forever The previous term for this was a 'metrosexual' man.

Your OP simply is not describing spirituality. It is describing something else. You have to throw away everything. The seeking. All of it. Spirituality. Truth. Else it becomes another ground. /End thread

This is a belief of yours. I call it so because you have no concrete evidence to claim the whole community is unconscious of this. Even this dialogue, where users can see what you point at, proves otherwise! Wiser words would be 'there are large groups of members of this community who .......' You tend toward black and white thinking, I have seen. Assumptions and inferences do that.

The answer can only be discovered for ourselves, unfortunately. Which is why there are issues such as these (which you raise) with truth seeking. Telling the truth and subsequent adoption of hearsay.

Everyone knows what Love is. You know it as a child. It is the first knowing. Love. Unity. Which is infinity. You just forget this when you inherit all your bullshit human conditioning. It is simply a Returning.

@AerisVahnEphelia if you say so.

@Joshe Love as a concept metaphysically has been around longer than philosophy, even. It is not originating from Leo. Vedanta, Daoism, Confusian ren, ancient Greece, Christianity, Jewish Kabbalah, modern philosophy etc etc etc I could go on...

Yes exactly - which is why I raised that 'skill' is a touch broad of a term, as it can reference more than just technical ability. Original aesthetics are very close to what I think of as individuals with an artists vision or a directorial eye.

https://youtu.be/loB0kmz_0MM?si=6em03eHamotrX_1G

It might be more accurate and less confusing to say 'it is arbitrary who decides the top great masters of each art movement', rather than state 'their skill is overrated'. Because it is the institutional power, group consensus, politics, historical accident, access and resultant group think that I see as the issue. Many of these artist's have skill in the creative and directive realms - some receive accolades for innovating or applying their vision in a never before seen way. These, as well as tool use, control, materials, accuracy of rendition (proportion, anatomy)... then we can go on into perceptual sensitivity; colour relationships, spatial tension, rhythm (negative/positive space), emotional rendition, balance, harmony. Narrative flow. Stylistic rules. Skill begins to point toward an artist that can decide better. Direct. It might help to define what is meant by 'skill'. It is too nebulous a term to be used without defining what we mean, as combined with all of the above an element of subjectivity is present in what determines 'skill'. Some of the greatest masters are not known for the technical ability. Some just for what they introduced as a concept IE Andy Warhol. All of the above is sort of why I dislike art critics so much. You cannot just measure it with a ruler, see it conforms and slap 'great' on it.

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