Natasha Tori Maru

@Someone here I've noticed a huge difference in your vibe on the forums since kicking through the worst of the withdrawal. Your words are far more measured, clear & free of volatile explication. Obviously we still all have good and bad days... But for me to pick up on this makes me believe you are experiencing a much better time in your inner world 😁 You seem to be giving others the benefit of the doubt more

You can't cut and dry call something a 'traumatic' thing. Two people can be exposed to the same event - one can walk away relatively unharmed. Another can be fundamentally broken and traumatised. An event isn't inherently traumatic.

@Daniel Balan I understand that. No assumptions from me ! When you start questioning hardcore, you can tear up the foundations of certainty with EVERYTHING. Which can feel destabilising and do weird things to our conviction! Been there ❤️

@danniel you're basically asking 'What is art?' Which is a huge question open to multiple perspectives, nuance. And not easily answered 😁 What @AerisVahnEphelia does, in my perspective (as a fellow artist, just using a different medium), is definitely art. Directing and prompting, composing. It might be good to look at some of the greatest artists like Andy Warhol - the art he produced prompted this sort of discourse in droves. And it might be worth it to note there is definitely such a thing as a 'higher' perspective of art. As well as a 'lower'. @Thought Art I love it. You look like the music is coming through you. No room for mind. No room for thinking. Just pure expression and 'being' state of flow.

Ah! Definitely not to discredit - to prompt self enquiry to look into any assumptions you may have overlooked. Sometimes there is more to our actions than we understand. But then you doubled down with your conviction and rebuffed the prompt - and when that usually happens I take the user at their word. That IS their current truth. I have to take their word for it, as they know themselves better than I could over text. I don't have the sort of interoception they have, so I just accept it. I think I would consider it gaslighting if I tried to continually convince you otherwise, but in this case I feel I was playfully trying to make users look into their behaviour .. the motivations under the surface. With no actual force involved in making you question your reality. I just assumed you would be open to questioning

@Someone here oh it was a joke... Woosh... See what I did there? Muahahaha! Easy to miss it through text with no tone 😁

Everyone contributes just as much in their own way 🙏 Shelve that ego good sir!

This is not gaslighting. I even raised that if you did not feel the way it it came across, then that is true, and the misunderstanding is due to the limitations of text. This is actually validating your experience. The very opposite of gaslighting.

Are you sure the pressure of the COVID pandemic didn't just reveal the issues of humanity that were always present?

You words read as defensive and attached - as if you view conformity as negative. And it is not so, conformity can have great benefit. I do not mean this as an attack or critisizm, simply how the feeling is appearing to be expressed behind the words. Sometimes text is not accurate. If you say you do not feel this way, it is so. It is not typical one needs to defend, justify, or give reason unless feeling encroached upon.

Conformity triggers everyone, it seems

You're revealing wayyy to much learned wisdom to the newbies 🔥❤️

The power of cognitive bias. The smartest people have the full strength of their intellect working against them if they aren't aware of their thinking patterns....

Japanese too 😊

You could consider we bred dogs to bond with us from their original wolf form. We made dogs conform to humans over the span of 30,000 years. By conform in this sense, I mean to 'fit in'. For safety. Tribalism. Survival. We have probably somewhat genetically imprinted ourselves into conformity by default owning them (assisting them with survival and turning them to our will). As the bond is now a instinct: dogs literally live to serve and work with their humans. And anyone who has owned a dog knows there is some deeper bond going on than what shows on the surface. Owning one as a pet - the dog serves our needs for love, affection, attention, play, bonding. Owning one on a farm is still a dog serving a humans need as service animal. Similar to guide dogs. Fine lines of distinction.

It's not that I think I am smart - I just tried to unpack how I understood your statement so you could clarify further if there was something else do add, or I maybe something I missed in my interpretation? You know what? Don't worry yourself about it. It is more than evident you are not open to discussion. No offence was meant.

( ˘ ᵕ˘(˘ᵕ ˘ ) 💞 I send the e-love?

Keep us posted, keen to have a look at this when it is published

Hahaha Yes boss!

You better make this your life purpose. Progress check-ins. Perfect for Leo's life purpose course. I was even going to say it would be the most dubious use of the course imaginable... But knowing Leo? Where else could you merge panties jihads and Ram Dass contemplations but actualized.org?! 🙃🙃🙃

❤️ Let's just go back to the panties jihad because it's going to take me a bit to stop laughing about it 🤣

It's not a mental disorder. It's not a pathology diagnosed in the DSM. Stop this shit.

My God what is going on in this thread. Leo the voice of reason here and panty jihads in the personal development section 💀

Ima throw in the towel with this one 🤪 Or should I say bra and panties lol

Yeah but there is a huge difference there you are still missing.