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Yeah - but I think it would be classed as polyfidelity. Four people in a closed group (me, two men and another woman). It was a while ago now - I have since been in monogamous relationships that have only steered into threesomes, but nothing verging on an actual poly relationship. I am monogamous now - and I prefer it.

@enchanted huehuehue I better not play with people too much Stupid games stupid prizes something something

(❁´◡`❁) ----------- 🎯 Add a dash of trusting yourself and self-knowledge and we bussin

Here's the assumption again Me telling you isn't going to provoke a genuine insight. And your intellect appears to tell you something else.

@LordFall It is reasonable to infer from what I said - there is an assumption behind that requires inspection.

@integral TBH I have been having concern for you in my meditation sessions lately - well - shall we say, every time I divert attention from breath or bodyscanning, thoughts of how you are doing after losing your dog flirt with my consiousness. I hope you are doing better, getting easier

@bazera ARGH >.< I feel cringe in my body as a contraction of my shoulders and neck, facial strain and an internal recognition of second hand embarrassment stemming from my own judgement. I find cringe interesting, as my experience of it has been reduced similar to yourself - I now have a high tolerance for it. But I still detect it. I think it is an interesting and often overlooked experience tbh. People seem to want to drop it as soon as it arrives. I prefer to test my limits of the cringe experience

Do we have one? Rolling. Post that shit. Shorts, reels, tick-tock turds. Do your worst short format. Boomer cringe. I love the spittle on the guys mouth 🤮🤢 https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS45V1Enf/

@LordFall Exactly as said - Dunning-Kruger effect. You don't know what you don't know.

The Dunning-Kruger effect.

It can be lovely way to distract from our own inner truth. Pulling out original thoughts, feelings and emotions of the self requires both relationship to others & to the self. The work on how we relate to our thoughts, feelings and emotions can only happen in solitude. Others tend to assist in making us aware of our own unique way of interacting with our emotions. But relationship to others, especially more than one individual, can work to block us from how we are connecting and interacting with our inner worlds. Polyamory can become an addiction to emotional novelty, where the pursuit of experience gradually replaces the subtle work of self-understanding.

This is a silly dramatization to avoid the painful duty of truly inspecting the feedback.

The theoretical concept and the real experience of it are two radically different things. As @aurum raised - it is difficult to understand the volume of emotional and intellectual labour it typically requires. It can bring up many survival based insecurities and childhood wounds. If you have this sort of capacity it could work. It was way above my pay grade

@Miguel1 it's rare. Even here. It is a big part of embodiment and grounding in the work. In my own journey - the things I wouldn't face, self trust, feelings of unworthiness, imposter syndrome... I seemed to find myself in situations again and again where I was faced with the same issues. Each time I ignored the issue - the next time it cropped up it was louder. Louder. Until it was screaming so hard I couldn't ignore it any longer. The pain of remaining in that space was worse than the pain of finally facing it. That pattern repeated for me until I was ready to face it. I contributed to it appearing in retrospect. Perhaps you haven't heard the screaming full force .. yet. Maybe you have. Only experience taught me self trust. Relationships have a way of fast tracking spiritual growth and being a mirror for all your shit. Done right, conscious ones, bring up as much pain as joy. The pain of growth. The only way is to just risk it all and be open to opportunities. What you seek might not be where you would look - or who you think you need to look for. Maybe you don't know what's best for you? I sure didn't ❤️

I never said it was easy. But it is the only way I know. Absolute trust in myself the fear will not be my undoing. I will endure no matter what happens. This is the only way I know to approach another in total authenticity and vulnerability - by trusting myself. If you don't trust yourself.... This could be at the heart of the issue.

The fear isn't actually real. There is no threat. The fear is what keeps us seperated. The fear is total deception. Fear is what creates seperation. It stops us recognising we are God.

@Valach thank you 🫶 It touches close to the feeling of death. To be rejected and cast out from a clan, group or community, prior to modernity - could very well mean certain death. Survival fears triggered. But I wish to point toward something also - the fear. Is there really anything to fear at all there?

But why is that terrifying? Do you think you can ever totally know someone? Truly?

What is so terrifying about being vulnerable and it not being received well? Does it have to do with the person expressing vulnerability? Or does it have more to do with the other who rejects? Or timing?

Appreciate the share and appreciate you! I haven't drawn any conclusions yet. But I'll spend some time listening on my lunchbreak tomorrow. I don't know much about frame control. No idea if I would be vulnerable to that. Although at a guess I would say there is a significant chance 😁 I'm faily confident with my intuition in general.

I haven't watched it - but I will. Thought I would share. Despite my issues with Jubilee and it's format (+turd moderation)... Discuss

What does seriously mean for you?

I'm listening to another conversation between him and Adam Lane Smith and I dislike what I hear. I don't think a rhetorical style where you tell someone how it is an effective way to communicate. It tends to shut down critical thinking and make the receiver feel unheard. I think this is just his un-integrated parts showing though. Truly listening to another may be an issue for him he is working on? Who knows. Overall I don't often choose to delve into someone's work who I don't feel embodies their teachings. I will listen and asses for sure, but I don't have an experience that makes me return - just me personally. Overall he isn't saying anything new for me, just rehashing a lot of existing content with the framing of masculinity. I think this is just me though. Less and less I find the masculine/feminine split very useful to understand interpersonal dynamics. I find it limiting. I wasn't always so, just recently. I don't discount biology at all, but people can't be boxed in. He's not for me - but I am glad he resonates with you. What hits home the most for you that he focuses on?

We got lots of aussie's reppin here ay? @Jacko Will check this out too. Cheers! TBH I don't trust nutrition labels let alone "MaDe In aUStrAlIa" "LoCAlly SoURCeD" I think data for nutrition breakdowns are bricked. Half the time if you know 1g carbs/protein = 4cal, 1g fat = 7cal and work out the energy content from there, it doesn't even equal the total reported on the package! I don't trust labels reports at all.

@Ulax That's all good, this is a cringe thread so it fits the theme. Was genuinely more just to check you are all good - as it was more a pattern of posting and not related to the turbo-cringe here