Natasha Tori Maru

@bazera yep this is where I came across the post originally - linked by my brother. I didn't read many details about the drug, I assumed it was a new peptide... I might be mistaken, but I view his fad as already on a downward trend in popularity. Maybe just wishful thinking... 🥹🥹🥹

This is judgement

16 year old looksmaxxer abuses arda, fucks his shit You can't tell me this isn't pathological behaviour born of this movement.

This alone is what makes this topic so difficult for me - there is as much disinformation as potential legitimate information floating around. As old Trumply boy said "The only way to deal with them, is to flood the zone with shit (information)". He wasn't referring to the UFO / UAP phenomenon per se - but it applies. I think we should also distinguish between UFO / UAP and aliens / NHI. The two topics are being mixed together when we are talking epistemology. Equivocating UAP / NHI is a domain/category error - as there are varying levels of evidence for each. And while the phenomenon's appear (or could) be linked, mixing the two when we debate epistemology is not assisting with clarity on the matter. The only reason I come from more conclusive certainty than yourself (and others here) is because of my unique experiences (as spoken about previously in this thread). Anyway - thanks for the shares on the topic I still think this topic brings in all the most open minded, charitable and interesting characters on the forum !!

Marked up in red is not necessarily universally true - and if we are to really probe into this, we will find this is not an honest investigation of the matter. The claim has hidden assumptions about what knowledge is for. There are at least three major positions that could come to mind via brainstorming behind what we use knowledge for. Pragmatism - which would be searching for knowledge as it is valuable to guide action. Then, there is embarking on a search for truth for its own sake. A much more Leo-esc / INTP sort of position. Third would be virtue epistemology - the aim is intellectual excellence. I am sure there are more, these are just a few I can think of on the spot. The overall point is that you make a big assumption which covers over a weakness in the above argument. Case in point - it is my understanding Leo's search for truth is itself a terminal value. This is an example of an epistemology that isn't centred around seeking just for application. And while people embark on epistemic rigor for any combination of the above (application, virtue or just intellectual excellent etc) at seperete times, in different ways: Do you think users here want to understand the UFO topic to apply the knowledge in application, or because of truth for its own sake? tl;dr truth and utility are related, but not identical Rounding back to "not knowing" - investigating if you earnestly understand the true meaning of the concept and being honest with yourself is key. It appears to remain a conceptual understanding if it is reduced to "it is needed provisionally to find some truth for action". Although, perhaps you are purely approaching it in this way to make a point - which isn't very sound as it is based on the assumptions (hence, weaknesses in the claim) above. I highly recommend this book: Peter Ralston - The Book of Not Knowing It is an excellent way to truly deconstruct knowing, beliefs - and - as a byproduct, where we are filling in gaps to match patterns and narratives we are identified with. It will assist with assumptions, inferences and facilitate a deep self honesty through connection to what is unlimited.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/97531-ufos-are-here/?do=findComment&comment=1665402 I don't think he cares about what evidence is out there as much as sticking with the narrative that doesn't want to be countered by anything substantial.

@AION don't be condescending. You are hurt. You aren't being denigrated for thinking humans are shallow. It's your own cognitive bias to have. Work on that attitude more. As you rightly claim you will.

@OBEler for me it seems to be a genetic thing. Early morning upon waking does it. But it is very, very mild at present time as I have reached a beautiful state of life where I am in flow a lot. I accept it, surrender. I'm not fearing it. It passes quickly this way. Going down into it gets me out. For the above reason, I always do hard cardio in the morning. Zone 5/6. I find it is almost a charged overabundance of energy. The dawn light and movement help.

@Miguel1 yes, you describe it very well. I don't know why, but I have always been this way. It is like some wicked cosmic joke to wake from the bliss of sleep. Once I have momentum for the day I am fine, I don't think and body just does it's thing. If I am suffering from a hardship, the morning is much worse. Waking from a nap also sometimes. Very discombobulating which compounds the overall malaise.

@Leo Gura (⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)⁠❤

Maybe morning time is difficult for you when enduring bad feelings and emotions. Most people have a time of day they feel pain and suffering more keenly. My lowest mood time if day is always morning. Just natural to me. When I am depressed, mornings are just the worst. The rest of the day, once I get through the morning, is much easier. Gentle. In contrast my brother has low mood around 3pm. Perhaps it follows your hormonal rhythms? I am sorry to hear of your suffering - my heart goes out to you 💜 At least, once the morning is over, there is some small measure of repreave for you

Suffering also appears to follow a pattern of association with awakening. Or, enlightenment.

Just an appreciation thread. They don't MAKE this sorta quality shit anymore. Fucking love this into. The last 1:10 onwards is one single take with perfect execution. This scene below was with Ripley inspired the shit out of me as a young girl. I grew up looking up to her as a female character:

This whole dialogue is low consciousness, reactive and a poor contribution. @Miguel1does not deserve your disparaging judgements. You need to keep that sort of stuff to yourself. You need to ask yourself what you are getting out of this. Why are you even on the forums, if this is how you feel?

Oh wow the grift is in full force: Bryan's rebranded website "Immortals", changed from "Don't Die" selling GLP1s

Ah, so I looked into what he is doing with this new announcement. As per usual, it is a sensationalist disingenuous headline to generate outrage and clicks. Any publicity is good publicity I guess, right? It's not a clone. It's not a zygote. It's cells taken from different areas of his body and treated to revert to an earlier state. These cells are then analysed for a response to more experimental (higher risk) treatments. It is a clump of adult cells that have been reprogrammed to act like embryonic pluripotent stem cells.

But even this isn't the truth, despite the backpedaling. Not all humans are shallow.

@Yimpa thanks for your unique perspective 😁 I was going to tag here for your experience but I didnt want to drag you into a weird shit fight !

@Miguel1 @Alexop cuddle puddle Mistakes happen. It's been great watching how some users have grown - me too. This spot of the internet really helped me understand the unique challenges men face. Lots of my biggest areas of growth were seeing through my own bias in this arena.

I appreciate this being raised. Very, very much appreciate it. Respect to Leo, the mods and all my fellow dudes who treat me as an equal ❤️‍🔥 It's sort of weird being TOLD how I work. How I am. With little platform to ask me questions about women and how they work. I am often, as a woman, painting as being unconscious to myself 🥹 very odd

100% I think this sex is possibly one of the most difficult and challenging topics to approach earnestly. But yeah this is also why I take users in good faith, unless there is a real systemic repeated pattern of uncharitable dialogue.

@Miguel1 @Alexop what you raise is part of the type of rhetoric around women that Leo uses that, when read in isolation, can appear quite damning. A statement might be made that is quite absolute 'Women operate purely via emotions, and will just follow their emotions' (just an example) in one post. Some back and forth might ensue and only then is nuance added when there is pushback, or extensive questions. Most people don't read entire threads. I think with Leo (I cannot be sure) he dives for the closest statement to the total truth of the matter in simple easy soundbites. But without context the meaning can be totally different - and these topics are some of the most nuanced there are. I get that women will be spoken about in an isolated way especially regarding viewing through the lense of the pickup paradigm. But most of the qualities that are denigrated are assigned to women here - when it's usually very loosely tied to sex and there is little evidence to suggest as such. Biology has an impact for sure, but conditioning is a large factor. Women and men make decisions based on emotions. It's not women more. It's human. If you look into studies regarding what happens to people who lose their feelings/emotional centres of the brain, it is shown they cannot make the simplest of decisions because our entire value and preference system is from the emotional centre. Antonio DiMaggio's work showcases this. Painting women as purely emotional and making decisions based on 'irrationally' framed emotions is just one common talking point perpetuated on these forums. In reality all humans make decisions based on emotions that form values and preferences. The veneer of rationally is only applied to men in these conversations - often through rationalising an emotional decision and bypassing the emotional root entirely. So I don't think it's often intentionally spoken about this way. It can be entirely unconscious. I give the benefit of the doubt always. And these conversations are usually in the context of attraction - easy to misunderstand what is being said and apply it to women in all arenas! When women do choose with rationality it is often painted in a negative manner regarding standards. While this can be negative when taken too far, it is consistently framed this way. The qualities attributes to women are spoken of in a lowly, less than manner. I'm trying to think how often I see women spoken of with a lot of esteem or celebrated for their traits here. It does happen - there are a few members who are so consistently lovely about it. But it is a minority. Regarding AION's comments - that is a systemic, contextual issue arising from belief systems based on cognitive bias. I never face any sort of issues like this in real life. I believe it is a chronic online issue with individuals when attempting to rationalise everything down to a simple explanation. And also - sorry to say it, but there is a level of conformity surrounding this topic on these forums. I don't think humans can be understood through rationality as easily as is painted. Overall I accept everyone is moving through different stages of life and understanding. And let's be frank, this forum is mostly male dominated. I think some level of unconscious sexism is just going to happen. And that's cool, I accept it

Men are shallow - sexist. Women are shallow - sexist. Humans are shallow - not discriminatory in a targeted way against a group. We make assumptions if we think moderating sexism against men doesn't happen here. It does.

@LordFall lol what. Assumptions. I am co owner of a construction business. I think I know some shit about putting my arse on the line and getting results. You have fantastical thinking and make certain comments about the future - and these are just guesses. Even funnier - Bryan Johnson constantly repeats "humans are terrible at predicting the future". You can try to frame it how you like, but this is what is happening - fantastical hype thinking.

But that was what I illustrated from the start - the boundary part? I elaborated on the fallacy of the idiot comparison above. You know. You don't want to try to understand. You have way too much to prove. And I know how you operate once you get locked on. Your rhetoric digs your own grave in repeat cycles all over the forum. Catch