Natasha Tori Maru

@AION has nothing to do with what I raised

Shits gonna' fuck - Or - Shit better fuck @UnbornTao I know you are about this

It's like people have different values! Wants! Needs! Critical hit!

@AION sorry, but that is some retarded racial generalisations supported by only slim evidence. Why not apply that to eye colour, instead of skin colour? Societies conditioning at work.

And the ironic part is, looksmaxing is based on there being some totally concrete, absolute "beauty" standard worked out by facial geometry and proportion. Clav got a nose job to be more in line with these standards, but it ruined the harmony of his face. It looks much worse.

Women for Clav are just material accessories used to statusmaxx or mog. It is half the reason why his language is so dehumanising toward women.

Investors cashing out, and maybe AI companies getting the shit sued out of them for copyright infringement (although this could be a drop in the ocean compared to investors pulling out) : https://axis-intelligence.com/ai-copyright-lawsuits-status-tracker/

Yes I agree, huge departures from the books. I think to appeal to a modern audience and touch base with current trends? I sort of wish Kynes had a larger part, and the emphasis on the ecology of the planet. But this would be difficult to present via film as a media.

@Yimpa Maybe not wrong - but there are always many ways to look at a process I don't think this thread WILL come to a singular conclusion. Maybe it exists so we can each make our own conclusion via all the cases and perspectives presented...

@Leo Gura The story of the original Butlerian Jihad (fuck, I can't say the word Jihad without thinking about a post you made EONS ago, where you quipped 'panties jihad' - cannot remember the context LOL) might interest you? How humans went so hard to transhumanism it lead to 'Cogitors' who felt disgusted by generic humans, inserted their brains into robots, gave birth to true AGI and the resultant AGI 'Omnious' went on a rampage and systematically fucked up humans, earth and all human inhabited planets. Humans were slaves essentially. Full capitulation. The Jihad was their revolt lead by a women (hence panties Jihad making me lol so hard back in the day) who's son was murdered by a Cogitor/Titan in front of her. Fast forward carnage. Then resultant ban of 'thinking machines' and leading to the circumstances you see in Dune. But that backstory isn't written by Herbert - it was added into the Dune universe by his son I think. There's a lot of material to milk there... and totally fuck up in endless sequels for the next cash cow. I'm turning myself off my own idea now...

While I know the sun can cause skin aging and cancer (particularly harsh sun in Australia) - I don't believe taking vitamin D and avoiding all sun like he does it good for us. Obviously this is my belief. But how the fuck can this be correct? I think there is more to sun exposure + health and systemic body effects than we are fully aware of. 10 minutes of sun in the morning, then 10,000lux "light therapy" + vit D isn't the same... Bryan won't go out without a full UV umbrella. Won't drive without full protection etc. I dunno. Feels like that might have deleterious effects. Everything in balance. When you push health stuff to the MAX it never goes well. Too much of one thing fucks up another. More isn't better, just like none at all isn't good. The enemy of health is perfection, as is often quoted by medical professionals.

They butchered Part 2 - it should not have been written that way. I can think of a few ways it could have ended / introduced the Landsraad that would flow narratively. I think it's a shame they haven't introduced CHOAM & the Spacing Guild more as big players. I predict both CHOAM and the Spacing Guild to play a large role in Part 3. The timejump... dunno how they will handle that.

@Yimpa I don't think it takes testicle to mute dialogue (or delete threads, hide shit or sensor). It take testicle to have a debate about a contentious, sensitive topic and remain mature and objective. Many personal views have been shared here, but personal opinion is not above criticism. As long as the thread isn't devolving into pure sledging - do you think it serves a purpose? I must admit, it is obvious which users are uncharitable or not approaching in good faith. It also reveals users bias. I think this thread says more about each user stands personally, than it does about Leo.

I was a bit flat there - I think it's my own personal sensitivity coming out! Also I am heavily against all the stupid armchair psychology being weaponised online (and on these forums) I think the overall point made IS clear in that both are pretty much pathologies - to me anyway. Looksmaxxing screams "method of emotional regulation by exerting rigid, outside/exterior control of reality" which is the same core issue to eating disorders.

I wouldn't equate something like looksmaxxing to anorexia. No offence, but it's an ignorant take. Anorexia Nervosa has the highest mortality rate of any psychiatric illness. I've had a lot of close personal experience with women who have suffered from it (family members and friends).

@Leo Gura He is a tadpole, so he probably has no idea what he wants

Bryan's a man. A man. With a plan: " My plan to cure autoimmune gastritis To our knowledge, no one has ever done this to try and cure an autoimmune disease. Context: In May, I got diagnosed with autoimmune gastritis (AIG). We found it by taking a tissue biopsy of my stomach. My immune cells are confused, causing my stomach to eat itself. AIG stops your body from absorbing nutrients like iron and B12, and can eventually lead to cancer. It likely started decades ago when I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism when 21 years old. The thyroid and stomach are closely linked in your immune system. I feel fortunate that I've been taking such good care of my body for the past five years as my condition would otherwise be much more severe. Millions of people are affected by this disease and are undiagnosed. Standard of care tells you that you can’t do anything about it. That’s old fashioned. Here is how we are going to try and cure it: Step 0: find and diagnose the disease ✅ AIG is rarely caught early because symptoms are subtle. Early warnings are low iron and B12, but when hemoglobin and hematocrit look normal, doctors routinely miss it because there are no obvious signs of anemia. A standard colonoscopy won't find it either, because it only checks the lower digestive tract, not the stomach. It was only through a highly targeted stomach biopsy that we found it. Even biopsies can miss it if they don't sample the exact right spots. Most people with AIG go undiagnosed. Step 1: Map my immune system ✅ Last Thursday, I had a blood draw to isolate and decode 1 million of my immune cells. Think of your immune cells as trillions of soldiers. Each carries a unique key designed to unlock and destroy a specific threat, like a virus or bacteria. A standard blood test allows you to see how many soldiers you have, but not their keys. Sequencing one million individual immune cells allows us to read the exact pattern of the teeth on every single key. This is important for my autoimmune gastritis (AIG) because a specific platoon of rogue soldiers has developed keys that unlock an attack on my stomach lining. Right now, we don’t know who they are. This test will inform us of which soldiers have gone rogue and are attacking me from within. Once we know the soldier and key, we know what therapy path to pursue to shut them down. Step 2: Catch the rogue soldiers I will be getting a second biopsy from my stomach because we need to collect live tissue. We are currently planning out the logistics of getting the sample from my stomach to the lab. We need these live cells because the initial blood tests showed the antibodies, which prove that an attack is happening, but doesn’t show us the actual rogue soldier doing the damage which is a T-cell. The live sample will allow us to match the immune system mapping we did to the live T-cells. Step 3: Build an early warning system To keep an eye on the disease as we work towards a therapy, we’re building an early warning system. I'll have my blood drawn every two weeks and we’ll pair that information with wearable data to look for flare ups. This is important because the attack happens without producing symptoms that I can easily feel. Step 4: Create a “Bryan in a dish” testing model, a miniature of my immune system At the same time, we are taking a massive sample of my immune cells and deep freezing them (cryopreservation) for two reasons: a) we’ll create a living lab: using these cells to replicate my immune environment in a lab dish. This allows us to test experimental drugs and therapies on my actual live cells before putting them into my body. b) it creates a back up plan for me by preserving the raw cellular material needed for targeted rejuvenation therapies in the future. Step 5: Build precision guided therapies to end the attack Once we know who the rogue soldiers are, we will engineer a therapy designed uniquely for them. The trick is only turning off the rogue soldiers while leaving all the other healthy ones functioning as they are. For safety checks, we’ll do two test runs: we’ll run the therapy through a computer model that has my biology to evaluate how my molecules interact. We will take my actual cells that we froze in Step 4 and watch them interact for real. If both are successful, we’ll pursue one of four therapies: a) fix the mistake my cells are making, restoring my immune system's natural off switches b) teach the rogue cells to tolerate my stomach instead of attacking it c) design smart molecules that physically plug into the rogue cells and turn them off d) build soldiers who will track down and eliminate the rogue soldiers causing the damage "

From what I have seen it appears like a mix of clout chasers / full blown rejections (ick mode). But Clav consistently reports he doesn't even want women "too much effort for ROI". He even when so far as to say he doesn't even get them off because ROI not worth This is what is popular these days... I don't even feel like a women compared to the girls he attracts. They are like a different species to me.

Have you read the books? There's much more than just communication at issue. Pauls destiny comes between them in a HUGE way. Chani also has trouble emotionally with Pauls political marriage to Irulun (which is just for political legitimacy). Sometimes communication cannot reconcile emotional hurt - the books go into this a lot. Also there is some shit Princess Irulun does that is pretty damning toward Chani (and by extension Paul's) happiness. The movies frame it differently - but part 3 should illustrate more behind the issues between them. tl;dr there are deeper issues that mean Paul is not able to be responsible for Chani's happiness. Don't want to spoil it (I've read the novels and seen the film/s) Dune Prophesy was... dissapointing.

Blaming others can sometimes be a fantastical way to avoid facing ones own responsibility. Need to adopt some critical thinking here - don't make these huge leaps in logic without considering "What if...?"

Consistency has always been my jam.

FUAAARK I don't have the chops for that. Not sure how well construction management would translate to directing a movie. But I can light a fire up someone's arse and get shit done. My whole job is keeping the ship sailing for building projects.

He was a huge hardmaxxer - I think that portion of the movement may die. Then the rest will unravel. As we age, if we learn the lessons of life and gain wisdom, we realise how foolish cementing attachment to appearance and transient material shit really is. I predict most people will simply... grow up

Do you think being a moderator means we're not allowed to express our personal critiques?

@NewKidOnTheBlock AI being a bubble has nothing to do with it going anywhere - I legit think it's here to stay. Humans aren't able to predict shit in general 😃