Natasha Tori Maru

@Majed Are you waiting for Leo's looksmaxxing era? Ha ha ha!

You can communicate this point without using such vulgar rhetoric. Would really appreciate it

Participating in status hierarchy games are one of the biggest conformist behaviours there is.

@Wilhelm44 this sorta stuff "mysteriously" happens. Sex offender up for release suddeny dies in prison. https://www.news.com.au/national/investigating-serial-sex-offender-suddenly-dies-in-prison/news-story/82e6291152c62d88d619c5258ffea589

Sleeping in the same bed as your partner.

I love this Radical allowance moves the emotion faster. Letting myself feel into emotions with no resistance is changing my relationship to the emotion itself in a way. And many of my old emotions are no longer reacted to and acted out. Just responded to, inspected with less judgement, and swiftly moved through.

@Wilhelm44 both

@Wilhelm44 hectic. Especially maximum security. The stories told from my stepdad shocked me. Let's just say - the guards willingly turn a blind eye to "justice" among the inmates. Especially when the guards have children.

@Wilhelm44 don't you have levela of prisons in UK? I know because there is min, max security in Australia - my stepdad was in maxo for 6 years. Totally different prison environment between min and max.

@Wilhelm44 My brain naturally swings to extremes - but I am a moderator so I try to be a good girl *breaks out the ban-hammer*

@Wilhelm44 *pulls out icepick*

Wow, I didn't know no one stood up as a character witness. Either he said something, they expected it due to his general debauchery, or maybe Russell never considered what he did a violation or transgression. The mind is capable of deep, deep delusion and infinite twisted ways to reframe the past...

Yes. I agree. The nature of the expression is up for question - It might be the only revealing tell of integration. Total allowance of the anger might be a punch directly to the "urinators" face... Or a simply curmudgeonly "humph!" grumble Or maybe just the thought "this is unfortunate"

@Sincerity Ever since I had a breakthrough experience (that resulted in a permanent increased shift in consciousness) I seem to have slowly, slowly increased on a gradient average. Like a sine wave function on a slow, upward trajectory. One big shift in baseline, then an up/down rollercoaster with a tend upwards. It definitely had little to do with my physical environment (the shift) and all to do with my own generated suffering psychologically. It took me a while to work this out, though. All of the work after has been emotional/feelings based. Intellectual analysis and understanding was a block to progress for me, in the end, despite how much of an asset it was in raising my consciousness initially. It had to be discarded once clear distinctions where realised. Hope this makes sense

It's your conditioning, silly human! INTEGRATE THAT SHIT Where did you learn that pee was not welcome? Where did you learn that a wet pillow was unpleasant? When did you start associating work day length or tasks being hard and tiring? All these negative judgements! Dissolve it! Integrate it! No one there to even judge! Ultimate unselfishness - toss out survival, biology, incentive structures... ____ In all seriousness - the word respond is good. Responding is what reaction becomes on the path. At least in my experience. The larger the attachment, the higher the likelihood of reaction.

@Juan I don't have it yet but you are a devil flaunting it here, a devil! I am getting pincered at work heading into Christmas, so I don't expect to have time for this until Dec 20th

@PenguinPablo Yes and it is important to observe women are also participating in a similar mate status hierarchy also. Flaunting their mans talent in resource accumulation. Same game, but different domains across the sexes.

Who is there to be enlightened, though?

Looks like more women are coming forward now. Path of destruction.

Yes exactly! Half the reason I normally have these discussions over voice chat with lovely people who enjoy these types of conversations. Open dyadic discussions where the answers might not be arrived at, as much as we are simply involved in a state of wonder and not knowing.

@Majed Do you think using a partner as a form of status hierarchy can be conformity?

Good questions that I often bang my own head against. I don't have answers readily available. But I will ask: When you say we might not be ready for the responsibility that follows on from recognition - do you mean we might fear losing our individuated identity and structures that protect us? Or do you mean genuinely recognising interconnectedness, oneness, unity which makes it increasingly more difficult to live selfishly? The distinction between ones own wellbeing and the wellbeing of others becomes less... psychologically convincing. I normally find these sorts of discussions end up hinging around the integration aspect. Having that "recognition" meaningfully transform one's behaviour, relationships and responses to life. Integration is the unique part of the experience there is no map for, because it so often comes down "working out the lumps in our gravy" that are unique to our own conditioning. CAN enlightenment overcome incentive structures and biology?

You made a personal judgement about my background and privilege. Don't try to wiggle away from this. Make no mistake, I am not perturbed here. But your interactions went from disagreement with me, to inferring I had some deficiency in understanding based on background. This is uncharitable.

I am not angry or upset. I am correcting you.

You have no idea where I came from, or how far I have come. You're assumptions are incorrect.