Natasha Tori Maru

I think I wasn't actually clear with that response (I vaguely recall I replied in a hurry and when I reread your comment, I felt I did not do it justice. At the time work diverted me from returning to engage). I dismissed pre-emptively so I apologise for the mixup and not returning to address. It has happened to a few other users also. I resolved to be more patient and only respond when I have sufficient time after noticing this pattern. We be gud we be gud

But you don't have all the facts - fact. You make absolute statements. It is the rhetoric you use that frames it this way. I think I have a problem with the nature of that rhetoric to be honest - because it leaves no room for doubt. So it is most likely communication that is the issue. I actually don't have a fully formed model there - which is why I ask questions. And because of the above rhetoric you employ - your wording is often so absolute I routinely ask "I wonder how he came to that conclusion, and why or if such-and-such was considered". I am asking questions to try to work out how you are coming to conclusions. Does this appear personal? Which is weird because it is not me taking anything personally - as above it is me trying to work out how you arrived at something in the way you did. It just so happens that more often than not I see a lot of assumptions. Possibilities that may have been overlooked etc. So I approach from there. And most of the time it appears you have considered alternatives, and then I ask again why a certain alternative explanation may have been discarded as a reason etc (If I do not understand for any reason). I don't have any hard feelings against you. Well yes, this is the rhetoric you employ. And you do put down others when they do not agree with you - just in an indirect way. This is where I am actually make a personal assessment on you - but I am not taking it personally. I am calling out behaviour. Well okay then, I don't have any bad feelings and I don't personally feel we don't get along. I actually view my probing and questions in relation to you as a positive thing (for me) because I like to understand various minds, and yours is quite unique. So I tend to shotgun fire questions out of intense curiosity as well as look at arguments. But yeah if I want to reply I will. Maybe you just don't like my style of questions as it may feel intrusive into how you think etc. Sometimes I go at arguments, sometimes I am just curious how the person arrives at shit. Dunno, I just ask away.

Yep. I am making that call. You need more not knowing. Even your assessment of the NIMITZ footage and your entire attempt at tackling this topic is so surfacy and lazy. It is obvious from anyone reading you haven't even looked into this even slightly.

I gotta say, Ralston's book and youtube talks on suffering really lead to a HUGE awakening for me. Early last year... I would say 80% reduction in my own self inflicted suffering. No change in my emotions and feelings themselves - but a profound shift in how I relate to my emotions/feelings/thoughts. Less resistance, less suppression - more acceptance and allowance. Self acceptance. "stop doing it" for me, was to stop relating to the feelings/thoughts/emotions in the way I was - not "stop doing" the emotions/thoughts/feelings themselves.

No, it isn't always obvious - which is why open enquiry and discussion is normal and not to be discarded. It may have read that way - but it is not so. I am presenting alternate options that I feel may have been overlooked - I did not claim that one *IS* more proper - or at least, I did not mean to (oops). My intention was to investigate how you arrived at the conclusion that epistemology is used pragmatically - why you discarded other alternative reasons for truth seeking. I can see why you might arrive at the conclusion you did - but it relies on assumptions. I illustrated these assumptions to try to nut out the logic behind ruling them out. I don't really understand why you would think people are applying epistemology to the UAP / UFO topic to for it to facilitate some use? It doesn't make sense to me, hence the questions. Unless you want to try to frame curiosity as ego, and the pragmatic application is to apply the knowledge to the inflation of ego. But again this is JUST speculation and cannot be inferred because you are making this claim against so many users here. And people are all so different. This is 100% speculation on your behalf though - you are attempting to psychoanalyse over text with a fragmented, incomplete picture. YOU are actually filling in the gaps. You aren't able to know anything about the myriad users motivations here. It is just a guess. This is a belief about the community here you are seeking to have validated - seek and you shall find. I know your response will probably go into "it is obvious to anyone reading, you have to be stupid to not see it" but that is your modus operandi on these forums. You arrive at a conclusion and then elevate your own position by implying anyone who doesn't see what you see is missing something (intellect, logic, common sense - whatever measure of intellect you deem appropriate for the put down). It is quite ironic, because a lot of the hubris and arrogance you accuse others of (in particular Leo, not saying you are wrong, but he is your biggest target) - you actually exhibit.

@bazera yep this is where I came across the post originally - linked by my brother. I didn't read many details about the drug, I assumed it was a new peptide... I might be mistaken, but I view his fad as already on a downward trend in popularity. Maybe just wishful thinking... 🥹🥹🥹

This is judgement

16 year old looksmaxxer abuses arda, fucks his shit You can't tell me this isn't pathological behaviour born of this movement.

This alone is what makes this topic so difficult for me - there is as much disinformation as potential legitimate information floating around. As old Trumply boy said "The only way to deal with them, is to flood the zone with shit (information)". He wasn't referring to the UFO / UAP phenomenon per se - but it applies. I think we should also distinguish between UFO / UAP and aliens / NHI. The two topics are being mixed together when we are talking epistemology. Equivocating UAP / NHI is a domain/category error - as there are varying levels of evidence for each. And while the phenomenon's appear (or could) be linked, mixing the two when we debate epistemology is not assisting with clarity on the matter. The only reason I come from more conclusive certainty than yourself (and others here) is because of my unique experiences (as spoken about previously in this thread). Anyway - thanks for the shares on the topic I still think this topic brings in all the most open minded, charitable and interesting characters on the forum !!

Marked up in red is not necessarily universally true - and if we are to really probe into this, we will find this is not an honest investigation of the matter. The claim has hidden assumptions about what knowledge is for. There are at least three major positions that could come to mind via brainstorming behind what we use knowledge for. Pragmatism - which would be searching for knowledge as it is valuable to guide action. Then, there is embarking on a search for truth for its own sake. A much more Leo-esc / INTP sort of position. Third would be virtue epistemology - the aim is intellectual excellence. I am sure there are more, these are just a few I can think of on the spot. The overall point is that you make a big assumption which covers over a weakness in the above argument. Case in point - it is my understanding Leo's search for truth is itself a terminal value. This is an example of an epistemology that isn't centred around seeking just for application. And while people embark on epistemic rigor for any combination of the above (application, virtue or just intellectual excellent etc) at seperete times, in different ways: Do you think users here want to understand the UFO topic to apply the knowledge in application, or because of truth for its own sake? tl;dr truth and utility are related, but not identical Rounding back to "not knowing" - investigating if you earnestly understand the true meaning of the concept and being honest with yourself is key. It appears to remain a conceptual understanding if it is reduced to "it is needed provisionally to find some truth for action". Although, perhaps you are purely approaching it in this way to make a point - which isn't very sound as it is based on the assumptions (hence, weaknesses in the claim) above. I highly recommend this book: Peter Ralston - The Book of Not Knowing It is an excellent way to truly deconstruct knowing, beliefs - and - as a byproduct, where we are filling in gaps to match patterns and narratives we are identified with. It will assist with assumptions, inferences and facilitate a deep self honesty through connection to what is unlimited.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/97531-ufos-are-here/?do=findComment&comment=1665402 I don't think he cares about what evidence is out there as much as sticking with the narrative that doesn't want to be countered by anything substantial.

@AION don't be condescending. You are hurt. You aren't being denigrated for thinking humans are shallow. It's your own cognitive bias to have. Work on that attitude more. As you rightly claim you will.

@OBEler for me it seems to be a genetic thing. Early morning upon waking does it. But it is very, very mild at present time as I have reached a beautiful state of life where I am in flow a lot. I accept it, surrender. I'm not fearing it. It passes quickly this way. Going down into it gets me out. For the above reason, I always do hard cardio in the morning. Zone 5/6. I find it is almost a charged overabundance of energy. The dawn light and movement help.

@Miguel1 yes, you describe it very well. I don't know why, but I have always been this way. It is like some wicked cosmic joke to wake from the bliss of sleep. Once I have momentum for the day I am fine, I don't think and body just does it's thing. If I am suffering from a hardship, the morning is much worse. Waking from a nap also sometimes. Very discombobulating which compounds the overall malaise.

@Leo Gura (⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)⁠❤

Maybe morning time is difficult for you when enduring bad feelings and emotions. Most people have a time of day they feel pain and suffering more keenly. My lowest mood time if day is always morning. Just natural to me. When I am depressed, mornings are just the worst. The rest of the day, once I get through the morning, is much easier. Gentle. In contrast my brother has low mood around 3pm. Perhaps it follows your hormonal rhythms? I am sorry to hear of your suffering - my heart goes out to you 💜 At least, once the morning is over, there is some small measure of repreave for you

Suffering also appears to follow a pattern of association with awakening. Or, enlightenment.

Just an appreciation thread. They don't MAKE this sorta quality shit anymore. Fucking love this into. The last 1:10 onwards is one single take with perfect execution. This scene below was with Ripley inspired the shit out of me as a young girl. I grew up looking up to her as a female character:

This whole dialogue is low consciousness, reactive and a poor contribution. @Miguel1does not deserve your disparaging judgements. You need to keep that sort of stuff to yourself. You need to ask yourself what you are getting out of this. Why are you even on the forums, if this is how you feel?

Oh wow the grift is in full force: Bryan's rebranded website "Immortals", changed from "Don't Die" selling GLP1s

Ah, so I looked into what he is doing with this new announcement. As per usual, it is a sensationalist disingenuous headline to generate outrage and clicks. Any publicity is good publicity I guess, right? It's not a clone. It's not a zygote. It's cells taken from different areas of his body and treated to revert to an earlier state. These cells are then analysed for a response to more experimental (higher risk) treatments. It is a clump of adult cells that have been reprogrammed to act like embryonic pluripotent stem cells.

But even this isn't the truth, despite the backpedaling. Not all humans are shallow.

@Yimpa thanks for your unique perspective 😁 I was going to tag here for your experience but I didnt want to drag you into a weird shit fight !

@Miguel1 @Alexop cuddle puddle Mistakes happen. It's been great watching how some users have grown - me too. This spot of the internet really helped me understand the unique challenges men face. Lots of my biggest areas of growth were seeing through my own bias in this arena.

I appreciate this being raised. Very, very much appreciate it. Respect to Leo, the mods and all my fellow dudes who treat me as an equal ❤️‍🔥 It's sort of weird being TOLD how I work. How I am. With little platform to ask me questions about women and how they work. I am often, as a woman, painting as being unconscious to myself 🥹 very odd