Natasha Tori Maru

@Carl-Richard to loose a definition for me!

Isn't it more than that, through? It's a seperate word, after all. Why is bias a seperate word if it is just synonymous? Unless bias is a domain word. I bias in my understanding also tends to distort judgement/discernment. So while the above forms part of a bias (or can), there's needs to be some distortion mechanism.

Really appears like many do not know what a bias is.

@Ajay0 This is not a debate thread. Please do not use it as such.

What emotions / feelings come up for you? Sympathy, heartbreak, disgust, sadness, pity etc So you feel compelled to action?

Try not to derail too much all

The downstream effects of love, connection, oneness, unity, nonduality and recognition of God conciousness are huge. I think you correctly identify one of these downstream effects in how we relate to each other - in how we express love, connection and pleasure through sex.

Yep 100%. This is identifying all the other factors that contribute to why people rape. You identified social learning and social norms... Rape can also be caused by entitlement, disregard of consent, power, domination, aggression, coercive attitudes. Situational factors like impaired inhibition... sometimes personal affect/personality. There are more I am sure! The solution has to address all these causes. The underlying concept is very interesting. implementing it would require a much broader systemic shift.

You recognise and deeply know that other IS you. How could you participate in an act of self violation unless you do not recognises other as part of yourself, as yourself? Connection IS unity, is ONE, is infinity. Good connection to make

This is either changing position or qualifying what you originally meant (which is fine, sometimes we express our original premise better after review/dialogue, or we just phrased it a particular way). Sexual deprivation as the explanation for rape to a broader worldview change. The missing mechanism is why someone who disregards another person's agency would adopt the proposed worldview, or why that worldview would prevent them from doing so?

Fundamentally it violates the sovereignty, agency and consent of another to satisfy a need. Opposite direction of oneness, unity, and connection.

They can. But they aren't a complete solution because they do not solve across all the reasons people commit rape. The entire problem needs to be understood in full for a full solution.

It is a reductionist misunderstanding of why people rape to think it can be solved with art, spirituality and connection. Sexual deprivation is extremely relevant to some individuals, but rape is a multifactorial behaviour that cannot be explained simply by a shortage of consensual sex.

I am sorry my line of reasoning/questoning upset you. But this is very uncharitable.

That doesn't follow from anything I asked or stated.

Sure - agree to disagree. I think its a conflation of selection and category. Vent away and disregard me

I am illustrating your assumptions behind the main argument.

Does it follow that rape is justified? I reject the starving child analogy, because I consider it false. Will you die if you do not rape or have sex?

Rape is understandable, as in, it is logical? Is this a correct understanding?

You are a real one

Maybe its the interpretation of the experience, then. There are several layers of judgement, interpretion and concept sneaking in

I don't think identifying bias should be done with the goal of elimination. The realistic goal is to understand how it influences us and prevent it from distorting our judgments & discernment.

Do you think men have a genetic predisposition that makes them rape when they cannot obtain sex?

Epistemic bias - confirmation bias and self-sealing beliefs or circular epistemology Agreement means the teaching is correct Disagreement means the person is trapped in ego, bias or conventional/conformist thinking Failure to understand means the person lacks the requisite consciousness Criticism means the critic is stuck in survival/defending their survival interests This is endemic to the entire forum. This produces downstream effects when discussing loaded topics. Making them more explosive, adversarial and degrading truth seeking.