Natasha Tori Maru

Looks like more women are coming forward now. Path of destruction.

Yes exactly! Half the reason I normally have these discussions over voice chat with lovely people who enjoy these types of conversations. Open dyadic discussions where the answers might not be arrived at, as much as we are simply involved in a state of wonder and not knowing.

@Majed Do you think using a partner as a form of status hierarchy can be conformity?

Good questions that I often bang my own head against. I don't have answers readily available. But I will ask: When you say we might not be ready for the responsibility that follows on from recognition - do you mean we might fear losing our individuated identity and structures that protect us? Or do you mean genuinely recognising interconnectedness, oneness, unity which makes it increasingly more difficult to live selfishly? The distinction between ones own wellbeing and the wellbeing of others becomes less... psychologically convincing. I normally find these sorts of discussions end up hinging around the integration aspect. Having that "recognition" meaningfully transform one's behaviour, relationships and responses to life. Integration is the unique part of the experience there is no map for, because it so often comes down "working out the lumps in our gravy" that are unique to our own conditioning. CAN enlightenment overcome incentive structures and biology?

You made a personal judgement about my background and privilege. Don't try to wiggle away from this. Make no mistake, I am not perturbed here. But your interactions went from disagreement with me, to inferring I had some deficiency in understanding based on background. This is uncharitable.

I am not angry or upset. I am correcting you.

You have no idea where I came from, or how far I have come. You're assumptions are incorrect.

It can be from the woman's perspective. I wouldn't appreciate being used in such a way. I make it a point to avoid such men who play status games.

A woman can become a status symbol that can be valued more highly than the material possessions which typically demonstrate a man's status. Often underneath wealth acquisition is this uncomfortable truth... many men do not want to admit this. A woman's value can be reduced to what her presence communicates about the man. Using a woman's attractiveness for ones status is where the trouble lies. When she is used as a form of male status competition. Valuing a partners attractiveness isn't a problem as much as using the partner for status is.

Oh! He wants to play! I'll take the above and serve you one better: Is enlightenment something a person acquires, or is it the recognition of something that was never absent?

It is called glamour. Been around for eons.

Enlightened "person"? Presupposes there is a person there to gain "enlightenment"... great paradox

Shits gonna' fuck - Or - Shit better fuck @UnbornTao I know you are about this

Gross. Not for me.

I'm okay with it. Provided there is less of Zendaya's one trick pony scowl face. I AM DISSATISFIED WITH THIS! face

@integral Agree. And yep there is some twisted shit in the manipulation of man and dog. There are some breeds that shouldn't exist. And continuing to breed them is abuse and wrong.

@trenton I make a distinction between sexual harassment and sexual assault/rape/abuse. Most women speak from the frame of sexual assault/rape/abuse inferring a physical transgression has transpired. Sexual harassment is more the verbal transgressions and objectification. I do understand there is overlap in interpretation, though. Especially in more clinical circles. I have never experienced any sexual physical violation - only extensive violence/assault. Being beaten, hit and thrown around has a different effect to being sexually violated from what I can tell. I am lucky to have only experienced physical assault. I have experienced verbal sexual harassment. I have a way about me that really shuts men down quickly when I do not welcome it. Mostly this is in my professional life, from hardened construction workers. I don't let it effect me, although I know for many women - it does.

What emotions / feelings come up for you? Sympathy, heartbreak, disgust, sadness, pity etc So you feel compelled to action?

I'm keen for this! I listened to his recent interview on Huberman's podcast - he goes into the painstaking process of writing everything by hand there. I love how he dives into the experience and phenomenology of becoming an 'ink fetishist' after having to write so much - colours, feel etc. I resonate a lot with his story as his suffering has been immense - suffering culminated to produce my first really big enlightenment breakthrough. I experienced a permanent shift of consciousness. I have never been the same since. Greene has such a powerful mind to reframe, his gratitude and appreciation have deepened and he has made the best of the result of his existence following his stroke. He isn't afraid to face the darkness of humanity - his own - and the light, also. He is also a lovely orator with a rich, well paced speaking voice. I think haters mostly don't understand him.

@Psychonaut Of course!

Hits bad in the feels. Bad feel. The WORST feel. Tears

Jesus Christ. The runtime on this is 2hrs 30 mins

@integral something so unique was formed in the connection between man and dog when we domesticated them from wolves. My girl is trained on hand signals and clicks for commands. Even small head movements. She knows. Best part of the day is being assaulted by a frenzied, explosive and uncontrollable happy tail to the face

Laika - first being to orbit the earth in space Relevant. It is this pups anniversary today. This story makes me cry. She died of overheating. Alone. I love dogs

I have never been sexually abused or raped. This is received as a surprise and shock to every women I have ever met Between women it is spoken of with more openness. Not one women I know has avoided sexual abuse of some type (my mother, my sister, my grandmother & cousins included). I would approximate a quarter of these women were raped by someone they knew. This is just my own anecdote as people I meet and speak with are generally more comfortable being open and vulnerable when I speak to them one on one. Sometimes I cannot hold space emotionally for the stories. It's not good. It breaks my heart. These women mostly walked away thinking it was their fault. Internalised shame. None of them reported anything. Victims end up going through life in various states of disrepair. It also makes me realise how blessed I have been.