Natasha Tori Maru

@Jannes Yeah so, my stance is that as we fix issues facing women, that might present as huge focuses, our quality of existence as men AND women increases. Men’s problems sometimes appear more acute once women gain equality. This highlights where there may have been issues with men the entire time, but because the greater threat to progression was women's issues, problems weren't visible. Men face some rigid gender stereotypes that need to be challenged. And the source of these needs to be assessed - because some of these harmful stereotypes are extrinsic. Men face a loneliness epidemic today because their main source of connection, affection and companionship is no longer 'guaranteed' due to women's equality movements. Women generally have stronger interpersonal connections with each other AND men - meaning they spread burden of connection needs over many people. Men often just have themselves and their partner. The loneliness epidemic references is an example of the structural consequence of shifting gender roles: men are often socially habituated to connect mainly through romantic relationships or traditional hierarchies. This explains a lot of the MGTOW movement; many of these men are realizing the bond between men is important. A bond that it perhaps was neglected due to women being subjugated to men previously (before feminism and women's rights). Resenting women for this loss of 'supply' is an issue that feeds Red Pill ideology. The problems arise when we try to come up with 'solutions'. There is an attempt to try to return to rigid gender stereotypes to feed needs. Many people blame feminism for revealing these existing cracks - I do not think this is accurate. I think it simply reveals weaknesses already baked into an old system we are outgrowing. The above is just an example - but looking at men in education is another example of this phenomenon - they are falling behind. Men's rights to custody of children is another inherent bias in the system that needs looking into. There are many more... What do you think?

@Hojo I feel his motivation is fear of death.

This is a firm argument for the displacement of men. And this is why this debate is coming into focus so often, now. The more we improve society and remedy the big cracks, the more the little cracks suddenly visible - and we also discover where we might need to place some reinforcement for new issues that arise. There's a big lag in isolating what the new problem is, where it came from, and coming up with solutions that don't revert to previous structure or subjugation in some way.

Unfortunately humans have bred and changed dogs evolution through selective breeding & training. Some dogs have been bred to be dependant on humans in a way that means they prefer an unnatural environment (IE indoors). I don't claim this is correct. We can witness more of this in short-nosed breeds like pugs (constant breathing issues that need thousands in surgery). Dachshunds who's spines break just existing or doing normal dog shit. German shepherds with backs bread for an 'aesthetic' downslope that end up disabled. Bully breeds selectively bred for aggression that we punish for exisiting. Let's not even get into greyhound racing! Unnaturally fast track turns that break their delicate back hocks. Dogs that literally snap their spines while racing from the sheer power of their legs and speed.... What humans have done to dogs is disgusting.

@UnbornTao What you are doing is bullying now. You've repeatedly called your assessment out over a long span of time. Irrespective of it being correct or truth, it's clear targetting and pretty low bar.

Yep this is why male suicide is a huge, huge problem ☹️ As a wider question - do the men of the forum think this isn't payed enough attention? Heaps of dudes feel expendable.

To balance this you can claim women have opportunity to build character through mothering / childrearing & care. Men can coast to a greater degree. There's a reason women gravitate towards caretaking to a greater degree. Different domains of speciality.

Yep there's definitely a pattern there that means I see more of the poor examples of mental health and men. If I put a women in a similar situation, she would be less likely to kill herself.

From everything I have seen in the younger folks I train and couch, men do appear to be falling behind. Women's equality has not been at the cost of men's. It is just illuminating issues that were always there. Male suicide is something I am passionate about that I wish was spoken about here more. I don't think male suicide means women are superior. We have had 4 male apprentices kill themselves. Burying a 22 year old man almost broke me.

A touch of the devils advocate 😉 The only reason I disagree with the claim is the domain error it evokes. Like saying a chainsaw is better than a dropsaw because it is mobile, light, better access to areas etc. but it is designed for less precision and control. A different application. The dropsaw and the chainsaw still cut. They both have a blade. Both require power. They are both powered saws, but they specialise in different cutting techniques. Both types of saws are needed to break down a tree into lumber and then cut to to precision for the wood to build a house. Men and women need each other

But he ain't gonna know which one of the shitloads of things he does will work. He changes shit too much and I wouldn't class him as scientist. His method is whack - but a pioneer, yes. He's N=1

This was legit my actual thought - I assumed he would have gone for advice there cos there's a lot more, er... Care? Required.. for arse play

It was actually a demented turd attempt at a joke, because it is a topic about cunnilingus

I think this is the cusp of where desire/aversion begins to colour emotional landscapes - and invite a whole host of other emotions to arise codependently with feelings and thoughts. Overall, I feel like I am not certain about anything on the topic.

I think you have a solid point - it could be either. Open to interpretation. I do think there is a lot of egoic drive to Byran. He wants have fame and be remembered.

It could be - I more saw it as unclear boundaries and not conforming to societies norms. The boundaries part because this is the sort of private enjoyment between couples that is part of the selective bond shared. Boundaries help define that private space and strengthen connection. But hey we all have weird patterns. Man though FUCK I was taken aback - I think he could have shared all that without the personal part! I think he is doing what marketers do - spinning a narrative and story. Personally it turns me off, and there are much better sources of information for this stuff.

I think we could all do without the sardonic comment.

I love my dogs! Pure bliss to my life

Might be meaning feelings - but I am only guessing. Emotions and feelings are different. But it's going to depend how terms are defined. In my worldview feelings are direct raw subjective experience. Emotions are more a structured psycho-biological pattern involving feeling, interpretation, physiology, impulse and meaning. Some people even bring affect into this mix - which would be a pre-conceptual energetic tone. This is getting complex because we are hitting a strange roadblock : at what level of consciou awareness does a sense of 'self' arise? And how exactly are we defining the self as it applies here?

One planck unit 💀 164cm metric system fuck off imperial

Frustration typically is less intense: arises from something blocking a goal or expectations. Mild. Thoughts arise coupled with the feeling typically 'this situation isn't working'. It's internal and is simmers. It's a discernment Anger is stronger more charged response to something perceived as wrong, unfair or threatening. Causes can be accumulated frustration, injustice, hurt, disrespect etc stronger and more explosive. More likely to be expressed outwardly, sometimes aggressively. It is usually a judgement related emotion. Focus 'someone / situation is wrong'.

I would argue they feel frustrated. Maybe anger can come up as a result. But it's frustration. Reinfoces my claim people don't understand there own inner emotions/feelings and default to miss labelling a lot of things as anger. Especially men.

Yep aversion too - it causes equal suffering. Although aversion can be looked at as the desire depending on frame. All I can impart is that a byproduct of real spirituality - truth seeking - was emotional healing and dissolving of conditioning. I am ten fold more internally regulated. It does get easier. I never persued truth to heal. But fell into its gravity due to extreme suffering. Godspeed to us both 🪽

@TruthFreedom sounds like a sort of "allowing" accepting and letting go of feeling/emotion. Which is healthy processing. That process becomes like a default habit the more we do it. It was key to assisting my own emotional regulation. Radical self forgiveness is a big one!