Natasha Tori Maru

I don't mean to be rude - but this could be a 'you' thing also. Rules are there for a reason - but they can always be bent and broken. The whole gig of moderating is flirting with this grey area (for me anyway). You could ask @Leo Gura for his opinion. Ultimately as much as we would love for this to be a democracy - Leo gets to call all shots. And he can break or make any rule he sees fit. We just arbiter them with best judgement. You could always ask Leo what he looks for. Dunno! I mentioned emptying as a possible way to incorporate @Monster Energy's idea. I did not 'keep talking about' emptying. And this does not mean I missed the point. You have no idea what I understood as to what you are talking about. Non-acknowledgment doesn't mean what you think it means. But you are wrong in your assessments of what I quoted. Take care.

Unfortunately trauma and its longstanding effects are often not conscious. Even when thoughts regarding traumatic events are not in the conscious mind, or when we do not think on the past, this does not mean they are not influencing us in the moment. We cannot truly assess ourselves for trauma. People build maladaptive thinking / coping / action mechanisms rooted in trauma that remain within the psyche long after memory of the events have faded. This is why we often need external friction from reality (ie a person, loved one, therapist etc) to show us the 'lumps in our gravy' that need to be worked on. It is also why chatGPT is a shit therapist because we often require being challenged by an outside source to reveal these mechanisms. And LLM's can be sycophantic bastards

@Monster Energy I am curious - do you think if we stopped moderating the drama would detract from the discourse here? I would just genuinely be concerned that users would build grudges and flood the forum with back and forth. Burying the good stuff.

@Elliott Your theory on how this site would function with zero moderation, and your projection of your own bad boundaries around acceptable behaviour, are combining to perpetuate a delusion. Overall, as a person and not just a moderator, I worry about you. You can perceive this as an attack, but I assure you it isn't. You don't even have to care.

I would love this!

There could be a slight point there regarding authenticity outside of a discussion around arguments. Especially as your initial use of the forum was heavily filtered through AI - which can be a tool to attempt to manipulate how we are seen. Heavy AI use blocks genuine connection and authenticity.

rofl 🤮🤮🤮

@James123 it's not about knowing what we are talking about. It's about moderating to keep the place cohesive and constructive.

@Monster Energy if you are after a place for emptying, you could propose a free-for-all subforum with no moderation. My only concern with that - there's a solid possibility a lack of rules free-for-all area may bleed into the rest of the website and degrade dialogue. Personally I would empty into a journal Are you afraid of being banned? Afraid of violating a rule and having a moderator attend? These might be questions to ponder. Overall of you want to see an example of heavy moderation where disagreements of opinion are moderated, rather than just poor behaviour - Reddit lol

No. Not personal attacks. Attack ideas not character. Growth comes from pressure, not things that can constitute abuse. 'this forum isn't supposed to be that' - while I agree, this is an ideal. Ideals sometimes do not measure up to reality. Just be polite and respectful to others. It really isn't hard. If you feel triggered egoically empty that into another medium, return and address the points raised. As soon as you devolve to character attacks its a no. You will learn how to manage emotions and feelings as you grow and gain more experience in life.

🎯 We would have to ask Leo, but this isn't a therapy room. @Monster Energy you are touching on the concept of 'Emptying' which can be useful, but I do not think is the intent of the forum. Genuine expression doesn't constitute shitting on someone else. Authenticity is not a justification for feral behaviour. Explanation can slip into justification when boundaries are unclear or not respected.

It sounds like a beautiful concept! Unfortunately awakening, enlightenment and 'higher consciousness' individuals do not transcend incentive structures and genetics. Some of the most profound words can come out of a user, followed by the most offensive attack on someone else. Everyone has their conditioning they are progressing through. Humans are very strange. I would be nice not to have moderators. You guys also don't see all the beneficial stuff the moderators do. It is human nature to fixate on the negative and amplify it.

I think this points toward the limits of intimacy that can be achieved through a large social platform with some degree of anonymity to it. Radical honesty would be used against Leo imo. Which is why it is understandable there are some levels of intimacy never expounded upon. Anyone in Leo's position would be wise to never ever reveal anything deeply personal through online mediums. Obviously this will lead to some level of disconnection from users / followers. + Isolation for Leo (to a degree). The caveat being, it may dehumanise him in a way and justify some harsh judgement from others. From another pov it could be looked at as professionalism. On the flipside, this means we only have his choice of expression to judge - and this topic is highlighting some of the worst of it. And it is not professional.

Compassion doesnt meant tolerance. They get lumped together quite a lot. Tolerance is allowing a behaviour or situation in your space. Compassion is recognising another's suffering and caring about it. You mess up personal boundaries when the two concepts are conflated. Similar to explanation / justification. Explanation isn't justification but one slides into the next for many people. Landing them in situations that shouldn't be tolerated.

Dude this is just your opinion. And your opinion doesn't mean anyone else is a liar. It is just a bias. Sadia as an individual appears shady & slimy - yes. But stop with the wild discrimination against attractive WOMEN. I never hear this claim from you about attractive men - do they too deserve to be treated like pieces of shit (as you have intimated on previous occasions)?

Proper socialization and talking to chicks will do it. Social game - they call it? You will end up desensitized to the novelty / nervousness. Which will let you sink into authenticity. Which women love. You will walk away with skills in how to read girls. I know they teach spam approach, but I also surmise they must be emphasizing assessing women's body language, signals etc? I am also assuming you get to a breakpoint where you see less rejection because you read the 'yes' signals from the chick better and are hitting the mark.

More Braden Peters roasting. Good. There are some users here who where beginning to be hypnotized by this crispy braindead amoeba.

What do you think/feel when you see a collated review of past expletives from dialogues across the forum like this? Do you chalk most of this up to frustration and heavily context driven? Does it cause you to raise your standards for communication, or review them? And the biggest question I am most curious about - if someone DID understand to the level or beyond, that you perceive yourself to understand, how would you know or identify this? What if you are failing to identify this simply because the words you choose differ in descriptive capacity to those another may use? Or do you look for some specific barometer of expression that would indicate someone on your level (so to speak)? We know you are an introspective fella - genuinely curious. N.B. obviously you can choose not to answer, no pressure

I don't think AI is going to take anyone's job outright - but I think the person who knows how to use AI will.

@AION You are applying one solution to a completely different domain.

Holy shit. Yes. If you have to put any effort into consistently maintaining some fucken 'frame' its just some farse. It isn't confidence. And it will just implode on you later. No one got time for that shit. Just be genuine and earnest to who you are. Cannot believe this needs to be said, but here we are.

People can grow in different directions. When values diverge, the relationship ending isn’t necessarily someone’s fault. It can be incompatibility becoming visible. This is also where the saying 'Sometimes love isn't enough' comes from. It isn't healthy to pathologize normal human drift.

Ha! To think anyone could frame control me. To think that is healthy. Imagine if this were flipped and I was speaking about doing this to men...

Not sure about this - Shawn, Dallas and Rich all died from heart issues/attacks/disease. They were all on so much gear and so many other drugs that could have contributed to their deaths. I haven't heard anyone claim peptides alone were to blame, and tbh they were on so much undisclosed shit I do not think there is any definitive evidence one single drug did it.

Yeppppppp People seem to forget the environmental and economical impact they are driving. Destroying technology prices also. Power and water.