Natasha Tori Maru

I think we could all do without the sardonic comment.

I love my dogs! Pure bliss to my life

Might be meaning feelings - but I am only guessing. Emotions and feelings are different. But it's going to depend how terms are defined. In my worldview feelings are direct raw subjective experience. Emotions are more a structured psycho-biological pattern involving feeling, interpretation, physiology, impulse and meaning. Some people even bring affect into this mix - which would be a pre-conceptual energetic tone. This is getting complex because we are hitting a strange roadblock : at what level of consciou awareness does a sense of 'self' arise? And how exactly are we defining the self as it applies here?

One planck unit 💀 164cm metric system fuck off imperial

Frustration typically is less intense: arises from something blocking a goal or expectations. Mild. Thoughts arise coupled with the feeling typically 'this situation isn't working'. It's internal and is simmers. It's a discernment Anger is stronger more charged response to something perceived as wrong, unfair or threatening. Causes can be accumulated frustration, injustice, hurt, disrespect etc stronger and more explosive. More likely to be expressed outwardly, sometimes aggressively. It is usually a judgement related emotion. Focus 'someone / situation is wrong'.

I would argue they feel frustrated. Maybe anger can come up as a result. But it's frustration. Reinfoces my claim people don't understand there own inner emotions/feelings and default to miss labelling a lot of things as anger. Especially men.

Yep aversion too - it causes equal suffering. Although aversion can be looked at as the desire depending on frame. All I can impart is that a byproduct of real spirituality - truth seeking - was emotional healing and dissolving of conditioning. I am ten fold more internally regulated. It does get easier. I never persued truth to heal. But fell into its gravity due to extreme suffering. Godspeed to us both 🪽

@TruthFreedom sounds like a sort of "allowing" accepting and letting go of feeling/emotion. Which is healthy processing. That process becomes like a default habit the more we do it. It was key to assisting my own emotional regulation. Radical self forgiveness is a big one!

Perhaps some more nuance to titrate out your views; do you disgree with teaching kids things they dislike, thus potentially creating a hatred and negativity to schooling in them? Turning them off structured education. If we teach kids things that genuinely interest them, we foster a love of learning. Or, are you more wary of any external structures being forced in those too young to consent?

I suppose I would need to know what you mean by "control". I only think it is possible to mildly influence them once arisen. But if we are talking "allowing" or "not allowing" I don't think so. Spiritual work has had a positive effect on my emotional regulation - which could be a measure of control. Again depends on definition Are you deterministic? Free will awakening? Dovetails with no-self

Ones innate affect and temperament would definitely effect the rotary switch on anger

Anger, or anger that arises from frustration?

Maybe he's afraid of the female version of himself >.<

@Spiral good suggestion - I'll lock this because it's no longer constructive. @Rafael Thundercat feel free to reopen a new topic for discourse relating to the topic. Only closing this so you can make a clean topic. Discussing this stuff is important!

Exactly - context matters 😎

I mean - I dont think there is an issue as the context 100% matters 😃 The subforum choice and general jovial tone of the whole post sorta changes it. Just thought it might be worth highlighting cos it's a grey area. And for me I view it as open to interpretation (also I am quite Machiavellian so... Huehuehuehue)

This victim mindset is half the problem. I speak to lots of members individually like this. You aren't special. Peace

This sort of thing isn't unique to science.

My brain is rubbing your brain with this one

Responsibility is on us all, regardless of fault. The same could be said for yourself. Don't get all confused. This isn't about content and more about how you communicate. On a wider note - my comments around communication style play into how this thread has evolved. I have no issue steering any thread back on topic, but users who are entrenched in bias shoot themselves in the foot when they cannot have a good faith, cohesive & wholistic view of a topic. This ends up causing the derailing again and again. This is a common pattern for these types of threads on the forum, and my advice is to prevent this. Even if it falls of deaf ears. This goes for all users - not singling you out @Lila9

@No1Here2c So you claim it should be possible through intuition?

So you claim it is possible to hold every single possible context of a definition as a knowing, simultaneously? This appears like an impossible ideal limit. Definitions simply do not operate in a fixed way. It is a compression of usage across contexts. I don't think steering toward "Can humans hold every context simultaneously?" And proposing it is possible, with no case, is as useful as asking “Which distinctions are most useful, precise, and experientially honest in this conversation?”

What is this highest potential definition defined? What do you mean precisely by this term? Accuracy? Context illustrates that accuracy. Context changes all meaning.

There very few proper definitions of words in isolation without context. Light weight. Turn off the light. Light sleeper Light colour.