Natasha Tori Maru

Example of one of his contemplation meditations? Or book pages?

@AION It is okay

@AION Surprise!

Ralson's work can't be simplified, fed into AI and summarised. Reduced. It is arrogant to think we can grasp what he is saying this way. There are no shortcuts. Even one page of his Book of Not Knowing can be read, re-read. Over and over. More is received each reading. I particularly adore his passages on meditation / contemplation assignments. I still remain confused with him regarding Love. It's my biggest point of difference with him.

Hit this fucker with the industrial strength repellent.

🤣 Deceased 🤣

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Fuck, it is so funny you posted this because I was reading about it last night. ...and one of my thoughts was "Now this guy is a real study in cult's and cult leaders" Have you seen his island cult shit?

I feel like this somehow lives up to the fucked up Aussie wildlife stereotype. Only this huge cu** destroys cars, bollars and phonebootbs 🥹 https://youtu.be/Bs_U1pnM8MI?si=lhxsqExT64VVhooA

Connection.

AI theft frenzy I appreciate this. I think many people who benefit from AI fail to recognise they have access to output with very little effort devoted to work or skill that is involved in producing original content. It is very easy to prompt and create and claim some AI generated output without any credit where it is due. Not only insubstantial credit - money where IP is involved. The value of AI-generated output is often mistaken for the value of the user's effort. Those are different things. AI is changing social perceptions of creative work.

This whole movement appears to be attempting to unlock the easymode of life. Float on through on the halo effect. Should we want life to be easy? What do we lose with this? Questions need attendance

@cetus Recognising what was being "stopped" was the big pivot point. I stopped how I was relating to certain feelings/emotions and thoughts (mind contractions) and I changed how I related to them. Slowly. Catching myself. Noticing. Practicing catching it. Over time it became a habit, and the effort going to awareness wasn't needed. So much mind-space, energy and clarity was gained because I was not contributing any energy to these old ways of relating. Life became substantially more effortless. I have no resistance to the quotidian nature of anything. It had nothing to do with attending to the suffering itself, or the feeling/thought/emotion. There is no stopping thoughts, feelings & emotions. There is only affecting how we relate to them. Once I was able to see how I was relating, I aimed to change the relationship. And I did. The shift has been permanent. I hope these words can help others as much as they did me, when understanding Ralston & their own relationship to their patterns. A true side effect; I feel emotions and feelings so much MORE. With more clarity. More compassion. Even thoughts are cleaner, clearer. With no energy being diverted into uselessness - life is effortless motion. There will always be suffering. Always. But a huge portion of it is self generated.

I think I wasn't actually clear with that response (I vaguely recall I replied in a hurry and when I reread your comment, I felt I did not do it justice. At the time work diverted me from returning to engage). I dismissed pre-emptively so I apologise for the mixup and not returning to address. It has happened to a few other users also. I resolved to be more patient and only respond when I have sufficient time after noticing this pattern. We be gud we be gud

But you don't have all the facts - fact. You make absolute statements. It is the rhetoric you use that frames it this way. I think I have a problem with the nature of that rhetoric to be honest - because it leaves no room for doubt. So it is most likely communication that is the issue. I actually don't have a fully formed model there - which is why I ask questions. And because of the above rhetoric you employ - your wording is often so absolute I routinely ask "I wonder how he came to that conclusion, and why or if such-and-such was considered". I am asking questions to try to work out how you are coming to conclusions. Does this appear personal? Which is weird because it is not me taking anything personally - as above it is me trying to work out how you arrived at something in the way you did. It just so happens that more often than not I see a lot of assumptions. Possibilities that may have been overlooked etc. So I approach from there. And most of the time it appears you have considered alternatives, and then I ask again why a certain alternative explanation may have been discarded as a reason etc (If I do not understand for any reason). I don't have any hard feelings against you. Well yes, this is the rhetoric you employ. And you do put down others when they do not agree with you - just in an indirect way. This is where I am actually make a personal assessment on you - but I am not taking it personally. I am calling out behaviour. Well okay then, I don't have any bad feelings and I don't personally feel we don't get along. I actually view my probing and questions in relation to you as a positive thing (for me) because I like to understand various minds, and yours is quite unique. So I tend to shotgun fire questions out of intense curiosity as well as look at arguments. But yeah if I want to reply I will. Maybe you just don't like my style of questions as it may feel intrusive into how you think etc. Sometimes I go at arguments, sometimes I am just curious how the person arrives at shit. Dunno, I just ask away.

Yep. I am making that call. You need more not knowing. Even your assessment of the NIMITZ footage and your entire attempt at tackling this topic is so surfacy and lazy. It is obvious from anyone reading you haven't even looked into this even slightly.

I gotta say, Ralston's book and youtube talks on suffering really lead to a HUGE awakening for me. Early last year... I would say 80% reduction in my own self inflicted suffering. No change in my emotions and feelings themselves - but a profound shift in how I relate to my emotions/feelings/thoughts. Less resistance, less suppression - more acceptance and allowance. Self acceptance. "stop doing it" for me, was to stop relating to the feelings/thoughts/emotions in the way I was - not "stop doing" the emotions/thoughts/feelings themselves.

No, it isn't always obvious - which is why open enquiry and discussion is normal and not to be discarded. It may have read that way - but it is not so. I am presenting alternate options that I feel may have been overlooked - I did not claim that one *IS* more proper - or at least, I did not mean to (oops). My intention was to investigate how you arrived at the conclusion that epistemology is used pragmatically - why you discarded other alternative reasons for truth seeking. I can see why you might arrive at the conclusion you did - but it relies on assumptions. I illustrated these assumptions to try to nut out the logic behind ruling them out. I don't really understand why you would think people are applying epistemology to the UAP / UFO topic to for it to facilitate some use? It doesn't make sense to me, hence the questions. Unless you want to try to frame curiosity as ego, and the pragmatic application is to apply the knowledge to the inflation of ego. But again this is JUST speculation and cannot be inferred because you are making this claim against so many users here. And people are all so different. This is 100% speculation on your behalf though - you are attempting to psychoanalyse over text with a fragmented, incomplete picture. YOU are actually filling in the gaps. You aren't able to know anything about the myriad users motivations here. It is just a guess. This is a belief about the community here you are seeking to have validated - seek and you shall find. I know your response will probably go into "it is obvious to anyone reading, you have to be stupid to not see it" but that is your modus operandi on these forums. You arrive at a conclusion and then elevate your own position by implying anyone who doesn't see what you see is missing something (intellect, logic, common sense - whatever measure of intellect you deem appropriate for the put down). It is quite ironic, because a lot of the hubris and arrogance you accuse others of (in particular Leo, not saying you are wrong, but he is your biggest target) - you actually exhibit.

@bazera yep this is where I came across the post originally - linked by my brother. I didn't read many details about the drug, I assumed it was a new peptide... I might be mistaken, but I view his fad as already on a downward trend in popularity. Maybe just wishful thinking... 🥹🥹🥹

This is judgement

16 year old looksmaxxer abuses arda, fucks his shit You can't tell me this isn't pathological behaviour born of this movement.

This alone is what makes this topic so difficult for me - there is as much disinformation as potential legitimate information floating around. As old Trumply boy said "The only way to deal with them, is to flood the zone with shit (information)". He wasn't referring to the UFO / UAP phenomenon per se - but it applies. I think we should also distinguish between UFO / UAP and aliens / NHI. The two topics are being mixed together when we are talking epistemology. Equivocating UAP / NHI is a domain/category error - as there are varying levels of evidence for each. And while the phenomenon's appear (or could) be linked, mixing the two when we debate epistemology is not assisting with clarity on the matter. The only reason I come from more conclusive certainty than yourself (and others here) is because of my unique experiences (as spoken about previously in this thread). Anyway - thanks for the shares on the topic I still think this topic brings in all the most open minded, charitable and interesting characters on the forum !!

Marked up in red is not necessarily universally true - and if we are to really probe into this, we will find this is not an honest investigation of the matter. The claim has hidden assumptions about what knowledge is for. There are at least three major positions that could come to mind via brainstorming behind what we use knowledge for. Pragmatism - which would be searching for knowledge as it is valuable to guide action. Then, there is embarking on a search for truth for its own sake. A much more Leo-esc / INTP sort of position. Third would be virtue epistemology - the aim is intellectual excellence. I am sure there are more, these are just a few I can think of on the spot. The overall point is that you make a big assumption which covers over a weakness in the above argument. Case in point - it is my understanding Leo's search for truth is itself a terminal value. This is an example of an epistemology that isn't centred around seeking just for application. And while people embark on epistemic rigor for any combination of the above (application, virtue or just intellectual excellent etc) at seperete times, in different ways: Do you think users here want to understand the UFO topic to apply the knowledge in application, or because of truth for its own sake? tl;dr truth and utility are related, but not identical Rounding back to "not knowing" - investigating if you earnestly understand the true meaning of the concept and being honest with yourself is key. It appears to remain a conceptual understanding if it is reduced to "it is needed provisionally to find some truth for action". Although, perhaps you are purely approaching it in this way to make a point - which isn't very sound as it is based on the assumptions (hence, weaknesses in the claim) above. I highly recommend this book: Peter Ralston - The Book of Not Knowing It is an excellent way to truly deconstruct knowing, beliefs - and - as a byproduct, where we are filling in gaps to match patterns and narratives we are identified with. It will assist with assumptions, inferences and facilitate a deep self honesty through connection to what is unlimited.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/97531-ufos-are-here/?do=findComment&comment=1665402 I don't think he cares about what evidence is out there as much as sticking with the narrative that doesn't want to be countered by anything substantial.

@AION don't be condescending. You are hurt. You aren't being denigrated for thinking humans are shallow. It's your own cognitive bias to have. Work on that attitude more. As you rightly claim you will.