Natasha Tori Maru

Upset others make assumptions toward your situation. Dislikes judgement/discernment from others. Makes assumptions about others. Judgements about others. Do you see how you do the exact same thing you dislike in others? Precisely what I raised earlier.

I think it challenges the foundations of what we believe. But to be more specific - several of my close family members are born again Christians. They view what I describe as a foreign 'entity' that can only be demonic in origin: their basic assumption is that any message I receive from 'God' would be positive and I wouldn't lead to me questioning so much. There are also those who assume I am either 1) making shit up or 2) experiencing schizophrenia or the like. I think it is a function of the materialist mindset: how can my brain be experiencing a thought from someone/where else? Thoughts come from the brain, for them... What is your theory?

Are we including experiences of almost telepathy like ability? I occasionally feel a thought is not my own. In that, I could not trace it's origin. It just 'popped up'. Sometimes I can see where it originates from, like this direct experience example below. Other times, I just feel like the thought isn't mine.... Example - I am at home. I was mopping the floor with this new cleaner. I noticed it had no smell, and I recalled when someone at work cleaned an area at the hospital with metho (big no no). 3 firetrucks later and big fine to the business. I then looked up at the sprinklers at my apartment. Experienced a shiver of fear thinking, if there were ever a fire and I was out, I would probably kill myself trying to get to my dog. I then laughed at the thought of the sprinklers going off (for anyone that doesnt know, sprinkler water is fucking diabolical, black, stagnant fetid shit). And I imaged being covered in that satanic black fluid. In this thought pattern, I was only aware of fear of fire suddenly arising. Then a feeling of revulsion. I wasn't being mindful of the thought chain so the strange thoughts 'I don't want my dog to die' seemed to just 'pop up'. But when I sat down and traced my thinking, I could clearly see why I suddenly felt fear/revulsion. Contrast - I am shopping at the supermarket, being very mindful of my thoughts. I go to grab some mandarins and suddenly feel anxiety and think of an unkle being in hospital with cancer. I do not have an unkle. I try to trace back the thought. This time there is no linear nature to it. I move to the cashier to pay, and in front of me a woman is engaging in small talk with the cashier, then she says 'my unkle has just been diagnosed with cancer, I am going to pick him up from the hospital after this' I have had this happen to me many, many times. Increasingly so when I begun a serious meditation / mindfulness practice. I do not feel I read others thoughts - It feels like, not all thoughts are my own. Like I am retrieving them sometimes. Is there a reason for the thoughts I have, to have been mine at all? Is this just something we assume? Where and how am I 'retrieving' these thoughts? I constantly look for evidence that my thoughts are actually mine. And I am slowly trying to figure out what feels different about the thought when this situation shows up. Anyway, I am not sure if this is what you describe. It happens to me many times a week now. Deeply personal. I have been called some bad things for sharing this. (⁠ʘ⁠言⁠ʘ⁠╬⁠)

Improvement. I wonder if the dairy/meat industry is a player here. Why is meat, cheese and dairy right up there with vegetables and above fruit? Oil is easily over eaten. Assuming the higher up, the greater serving size. Eggs and fish seem low.

I do wonder if it wouldn't matter, though.

Ah okay - this is the issue. The effect they have on you will not change until the belief they are a threat changes. It is worth looking into if that is a belief or a truth.

@SQAAD No. Sharing personally earned wisdom. If you did not do this (judge, rather than discern) - you would not let it bother you so much. The simple fact it perturbs you is evidence of it. You won't understand this until you realize it.

Perhaps the mechanism behind this is the suffering the alcohol generated? In which case, it would indicate alcohol isn't unique or the actual reason for spiritual growth. It seems common suffering is a huge ingredient for spiritual development

No. Nothing wrong with torrenting. But there is something wrong with theft / copyright infringement. Torrenting is a tool not inherently bad. But it can be bad, if the tool is misused.

Regarding Bashar. I think there are some truths touched on there. But the single reason I have listened to the channel is simple fascination with the potential grift. To convince oneself they are able to channel an entity and be so genuine about it, would require a depth of delusion I am fascinated with. So it is sort of - a study? Maybe others feels this mixture of fascination. In which case, it may not be a waste of time. Rather a learning experience regarding how deep delusion can go 💀😁

Everything you judge others for - you also do yourself. You don't claim it within your own behaviour because that would mean you judge and dislike yourself. And underneath it all - that is what this is about. You unconsciously dislike yourself. You won't be able to see this, like you cannot see your eyeballs. But everyone else can. Work on looking at what behaviours you dislike in others, in yourself. Accept them. Do not judge. Learn discernment.

How old are you? My aunt had your reasoning and usage patterns regarding alcohol. She died a long, slow painful death by turning her liver to pate.

It also has that blinding overconfidence in ones state and faculties going for it... 💀

@Davino is another one (incognito truth seeker) - how he described his day job and general demeanor in a previous post made me think he would be an Uno reverse card irl

@Carl-Richard it reinforces my thought that we are all hidden in plain sight 🥰 Absolutely (⁠＾⁠∇⁠＾⁠)⁠ﾉ⁠♪ I find other women who are into philosophy & truth far more intimidating than men, actually.

@Inliytened1 @ExploringReality You, gentleman - I would cook lamb shanks, mash & beans. A good meal and hearty existential chats 🙏❤️ I know I do enjoy a mental clashing of the minds, but behind that I genuinely adore intellectual conversation and there is always MUCH respect. I also know exactly when to switch from savage mind jousting to warm compassion. I don't like walking away with a bad feeling. I suppose that's the women bit 🥹 I have never met one woman into serious spirituality. A few men for sure. And I really to try with those around me. I give them little truth biscuits to lure them in, but it is rare someone really begins to ask the big questions with the lead in. I suppose you would find truth seeking women in the last place you would expect. Because who would predict an awakened, female construction manager? Sounds busted 😏

@SQAAD so. You're a troll. Good luck. You should have more respect and grace for the users who tried so assist you. You don't want the truth. Money is the last thing you need.

You come across as very ungrounded.

You did state you are provided a taxpayer funded state allowance, no? Sincerity's point indicates there is a choice you can make to better empower yourself in your situation. But you profess you have no choice - do you really think you are stuck with no choice?

Oh! They just unconsciously do so. I suppose they perceive themselves egoless. Cannot kill or get rid of something that never existed in the first place

I agree. For this reason I seperate the addiction from the person. I typically use terminology like 'the person suffering from the addiction'. Because it is an affliction and not them. I steer away from calling sufferers 'addicts' for this reason. The disease causes the person, as they are, to behave in a way that contradicts their soul. Their person. Who they are. And there are many consequences of that behaviour. It is also important to note that I consider someone addicted to something when they behave in a way that impedes functioning. On any level; interpersonal, social, fiscal etc. Unfortunately the fact remains they are not thinking in the correct way, regardless of how intelligent they may be. Endless compassion for sufferers ❤️

I do not think Leo was advocating for an unempathetic position with the statement that 'addicts are untrustworthy'. His point raises a healthy boundary for empathy - which is a more compassionate approach. Empathy with boundaries is compassion. Empathy without boundaries is self-abandonment/self-erasure. Boundaries prevent the corrosive nature of unchecked empathy. Which can lead to trusting someone suffering from addiction, and ending up exploited due to their actions. Just my 2C on how I read the statement.

@Kokorec What prompted this question? It might help others understand your frame better - particularly what you mean by 'free'. I can see replies in this thread coming at you in a loaded way due to the nebulous terminology of that word

A realistic one. In addition - my response is from the frame of why an enlightened person would not force something on another.

Regarding this. It might be worthy to note each of us see a different facet of truth in each teaching. Depending on where we are at. Some might be taking away a completely different message or truth. Often, in the path, when you return to teachings that were foundations for other teachings - they take on a completely different meaning and truth....