Natasha Tori Maru

Speaking from my own experience - it helped me on my healing path (and in particular application to forgiveness and surrender as a method of unravelling emotional wounds) to try to go back to when I first felt that particular feeling. We experience loads of stuff. Often I get frustrated with myself. My own self frustration and negative narrative (shame based) was never triggered as much after I went back to my feelings and tracked it to the source. I first felt that when my father tried to teach me mathematical times tables. I just couldn't get it. The feeling of frustration and shame with myself was my first memory of it. Sitting at the table. My Dad getting really, really angry at me - and me feeling it was my fault for his anger. Banging his fist on the table. Hearing him from the other room comment to my mother "I think she may have a learning difficulty". I didn't even clearly remember this until I went back to the feeling. Every new instance of feeling self frustration was retouching that first taste of it. And I realised I was fearing that. Something about becoming aware of the first time I felt it lead to it unravelling. I wasn't worried about experiencing it. The narrative stopped. My frustration lessoned. I think what happened was: finding an early emotionally significant memory changed my relationship to the feeling. I forgave my Dad and myself because I wasn't responsible for his reaction - and he wasn't either. He was just conditioned to respond like that. He was stressed. Upset at himself for being unable to teach me. I stopped being afraid of feeling frustration. I didn't even KNOW there was a layer of fear there. I surrendered to fully feeling the whole memory all over again to realise that the feeling couldn't hurt me. I used this process extensively for around a year, and it dissolved a lot of my own negative inner narrative. And like an operating system freed from hidden background processes choking it into gridlock - my entire living experience became 90% easier. None of my intellect was being swallowed up by unconscious reactions, thoughts and narratives. Life is a lot easier. Effortlessness. Forgiveness and surrender did this for me. It might not work this way for everyone - but it did for me.

It is sort of hard to answer without bringing charisma into it so the definition is clearer. But you make me rethink my position! Charm = making people feel good around you, positive feelings Attraction = pull toward someone, desire Charisma = ability to influence and energise people, attention I may be unusual in my definition as I am very, very sceptical and wary of people who wield charm. I feel as if it can be used for leverage by inducing good feelings. Charisma is closer in alignment to inner confidence, authenticity, presence and conviction. Charm is more warmth, likability and social intelligence. Attraction is desire, compatibility, chemistry, values... appearance. Attraction is often instinctual and tethered closely to the unconscious (biology, conditioning, attachment patterns, status and confidence cues etc). I feel like attraction often happens several layers down prior to deliberate reasoning. I take a second look at charm because I consider it easily faked. It can be genuine. But it requires inspection to know. Attraction and charisma come from a position of greater authenticity of expression. Do you have any sort of thought out distinction?

Not discounting that this can be quite polarising - but I wouldn't consider this totally off the cards (initially I would consider it too much, but there are prompts one can make that might reveal if a woman is open to this). Because, speaking for myself, this: Was my introduction to the topic of spirituality. And I think for many women it is the same. Spirituality-lite Perhaps for men, the introduction to spirituality might be philosophy. Different introductory paths that appeal to gender polarities?

Thanks your thoughts Just making sure I adhere to the pattern to confirm it - consider it a free service in transparent stratagems

@Schizophonia It is the correlation vs causation thing at play - you haven't established causation. Merely observed a pattern.

Charm is totally separate from attraction for me.

It isn't about AI's ability to generate art. It's that companies can use AI to commercialize value derived from artists' work. Often without meaningful consent or compensation. This moves economic power from creators to platform owners. Discern that this is about the economics / ethics surrounding AI rather than the technology in isolation

No - maybe I wasn't clear. I am talking about his health related works. I am explicitly speaking about his impacts (changes) to the medical system and how the average person has benefit through usage of said system. He hasn't done anything to impact that space yet. He isn't doing science. There isn't anything heroic about making what he does public. His experiment is flawed because we won't know if fertilizing his farts with eucalyptus was what caused a result, or ripping up his astroturf because it is plastic poison. Fundamentally I suspect I have different definition of what a hero is, and mine is probably more tight than yours. I don't appreciate this condescending, sarcastic tone. Why do you always do that? Do you not comprehend it just makes the receipt of your words more difficult? This is interaction 101. I actually cannot believe you just defaulted back to that, like some sort of weird instinct. You do it to almost all others who disagree with you. Multiple topics. Multiple posts. All users. And others express this isn't appreciated. I don't have time for it, have a good one.

@LordFall I mean for health - not his braintree etc stuff. I am across his history of entrepreneurship. Notice this also doesn't qualify for hero status, does it? What actual health results? Real impacts? Other than spinning words and marketing on already known tenets. None of what he is doing can easily be empirically proven as his methods are not scientific. Again - what has he ACTUALLY done to be considered a hero, right now? Not "maybe in 10 years he will be a hero" Maybe in 10 years I will shit out rainbows with a pot of gold at the end, when I become a fully turbocharged transhuman I want to avoid all the fantastical thinking.

Honestly if I encountered you on a date, and you started with some more esoteric spiritual stuff - I'd catch that hook. If you moved into hardcore spirituality I would dive in headfirst with you to see how far along on the path we both were. I think if you encountered a women into true spirituality it wouldn't be a turnoff. But if we are speaking about, theoretically, a woman who only had a surface, feeling/body based spirituality... a conversation like that, like with small talk, is about exchanging pennies initially. You don't know if you want to invest full dollars - yet. So you just chuck some pennies back and forth prior to investing harder. Starting with feel good spirituality would be the pennies. Then if she gives some pennies back, you might put a dollar on the table. Maybe some philosophy...? Same with small talk. People dislike it - but there is a purpose to it most miss. It's about figuring out the other person, slowly. Then investing. Unfortunately these days people try to rush into things. Personally - I don't hesitate to throw out spirituality early. If the dude isn't into it, it is a quick filter for someone that might not be for me.

@LordFall What has he actually done? Results. He has repeated a lot of existing, well known, core health and wellbeing tenets. Spreading the word Does this constitute an hero?

A hero 🤣🤣

Who exactly got enlightened?

@LordFall have a look at the current, active lawsuits. I'm not talking about internet posts. I suppose I would say, you didn't even ask any contextual questions, just assumed what I was referring to. When someone just assumes and replies (with no questions) it's a heuristic they want to state and prove their point and have no real interest in understanding the other.

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