Natasha Tori Maru

The feels Miss him.

Lovely conversation with my Christian family. Apparently Russell should be totally absolved and forgiven. He has shown himself to be of the faith, and that is proof of his good intention and penance. The women he was with probably weren't Christian so have loose morals. In the same conversation someone was condemned and "she will go to hell" for being an atheist. Atheists are condemned and can burn in hell. Convicted rapists should be free & forgiven because they realised Christ.

It's not a problem. As long as they do not proselytise and have a "live and let live" attitude.

@oOo 👏🏻

You could be right - I just go by his word as stated in multiple interviews. He could be covering. I didnt know you were a PUA (former). Must be a lot of work, shaking off that system! Or sorting through the good/bad.

Perhaps, now. But Robert has gone on record to make clear (48 laws of power) he wrote it from the perspective of "these are dynamics you need to be aware of". He didn't write the book initially with the premise it was a manipulation manual.

I agree. He appears to have applied respectful diligence and grace with the content and style of delivery. Even considering the impact of the jail time on Russells children. Conscientious.

Scroll to 8minute mark for count 6 - the most damning part. Judges sentencing. His damning arrogance and behaviour sounds like it has played a part in the harsh sentencing. Pattern of behaviour with a lack of contrition.

@Jirh appreciate your thoughts here. I think your approach is nuanced, intelligent and mature. This subject is so charged when I talk about it with my friends. It makes me think of PUA and LMR techniques. If LMR is seen as "token resistance" instead of genuine refusal, it could train some men to blow through women's boundaries. Not all PUA techniques are coercive, and not every instance of persistence is sexual coercion. This is another grey area of consent that really irritates my girlfriends. I can't even bring this up without it being labelled coercion. Even though they will also simultaneously admit they can be nervous or ambivalent - and enjoy being encouraged by a partner. I think many times these grey areas can ( and should) be navigated together. Instead I see parties often walking away with two different interpretations of desire and consent. It usually comes back to mature communication. Dual responsibility to communicate. And here safety has a massive impact. Because some women freeze when the amygdala is activated. Pure survival reflex. I think we really want a model of sexual ethics that protects people from coercion without stripping human intimacy of its nuance. Sound easy... But in practice....

I feel sorry for Dr Roman Yampolskiy. But then again, he signed up for this. Maybe this should be in the humour / off-topic section

@aurum well said. That hatred phase is an expression of feeling betrayed as expressed by my girlfriends. I don't entertain it. Because I don't share it, and I feel as if it fuels the fire. I agree that the ultimate objective is neither submission nor opposition. Healthy endgame to me looks like autonomy with the capacity for genuine connection.

This is really damning if accurate....

Many guys don't know this is how many women are taught by many older generation mothers (boomers, silent generation, X). It is often just accepted as the way it is. Hard to see unless you are raised in it, and then break out of it. I suppose being raised mainly by my Grandad (who was quite a maverick), I didn't get taught to focus on men as a centre part of my life. It took me a long time to understand what other women went through. And even then, I don't fully grasp it.

This is, I would argue, quite common.

Coupled with this, many people will claim it's a total mood killer to be so explicit regarding consent. But then simultaneously argue consent needs to be given. Enthusiastically to boot. I am confused as a woman. Now imagine most men in this scenario. Take into consideration men can have lower EQ and deal with the biological drive for sex overriding rationality...