Natasha Tori Maru

This is a silly dramatization to avoid the painful duty of truly inspecting the feedback.

The theoretical concept and the real experience of it are two radically different things. As @aurum raised - it is difficult to understand the volume of emotional and intellectual labour it typically requires. It can bring up many survival based insecurities and childhood wounds. If you have this sort of capacity it could work. It was way above my pay grade

@Miguel1 it's rare. Even here. It is a big part of embodiment and grounding in the work. In my own journey - the things I wouldn't face, self trust, feelings of unworthiness, imposter syndrome... I seemed to find myself in situations again and again where I was faced with the same issues. Each time I ignored the issue - the next time it cropped up it was louder. Louder. Until it was screaming so hard I couldn't ignore it any longer. The pain of remaining in that space was worse than the pain of finally facing it. That pattern repeated for me until I was ready to face it. I contributed to it appearing in retrospect. Perhaps you haven't heard the screaming full force .. yet. Maybe you have. Only experience taught me self trust. Relationships have a way of fast tracking spiritual growth and being a mirror for all your shit. Done right, conscious ones, bring up as much pain as joy. The pain of growth. The only way is to just risk it all and be open to opportunities. What you seek might not be where you would look - or who you think you need to look for. Maybe you don't know what's best for you? I sure didn't ❤️

I never said it was easy. But it is the only way I know. Absolute trust in myself the fear will not be my undoing. I will endure no matter what happens. This is the only way I know to approach another in total authenticity and vulnerability - by trusting myself. If you don't trust yourself.... This could be at the heart of the issue.

The fear isn't actually real. There is no threat. The fear is what keeps us seperated. The fear is total deception. Fear is what creates seperation. It stops us recognising we are God.

@Valach thank you 🫶 It touches close to the feeling of death. To be rejected and cast out from a clan, group or community, prior to modernity - could very well mean certain death. Survival fears triggered. But I wish to point toward something also - the fear. Is there really anything to fear at all there?

But why is that terrifying? Do you think you can ever totally know someone? Truly?

What is so terrifying about being vulnerable and it not being received well? Does it have to do with the person expressing vulnerability? Or does it have more to do with the other who rejects? Or timing?

Appreciate the share and appreciate you! I haven't drawn any conclusions yet. But I'll spend some time listening on my lunchbreak tomorrow. I don't know much about frame control. No idea if I would be vulnerable to that. Although at a guess I would say there is a significant chance 😁 I'm faily confident with my intuition in general.

What does seriously mean for you?

I'm listening to another conversation between him and Adam Lane Smith and I dislike what I hear. I don't think a rhetorical style where you tell someone how it is an effective way to communicate. It tends to shut down critical thinking and make the receiver feel unheard. I think this is just his un-integrated parts showing though. Truly listening to another may be an issue for him he is working on? Who knows. Overall I don't often choose to delve into someone's work who I don't feel embodies their teachings. I will listen and asses for sure, but I don't have an experience that makes me return - just me personally. Overall he isn't saying anything new for me, just rehashing a lot of existing content with the framing of masculinity. I think this is just me though. Less and less I find the masculine/feminine split very useful to understand interpersonal dynamics. I find it limiting. I wasn't always so, just recently. I don't discount biology at all, but people can't be boxed in. He's not for me - but I am glad he resonates with you. What hits home the most for you that he focuses on?

We got lots of aussie's reppin here ay? @Jacko Will check this out too. Cheers! TBH I don't trust nutrition labels let alone "MaDe In aUStrAlIa" "LoCAlly SoURCeD" I think data for nutrition breakdowns are bricked. Half the time if you know 1g carbs/protein = 4cal, 1g fat = 7cal and work out the energy content from there, it doesn't even equal the total reported on the package! I don't trust labels reports at all.

@Ulax That's all good, this is a cringe thread so it fits the theme. Was genuinely more just to check you are all good - as it was more a pattern of posting and not related to the turbo-cringe here

Relentless is a strong word I'll cop that - I just notice a change in your posts. Drop in content and a lot more sarcasm. Some trolly behaviour. Last few days. I suppose this is more a post out of concern and not me worried about shitting on a stupid cringe thread

@Ulax You can stop the relentless sarcasm, trolling and baiting now. Your posts have gotten slightly deranged?