Natasha Tori Maru

Yep! I think your replies were based on previous interactions between yourself and Emerald. In those, there was a serious disagreement that had little to do with being uncharitable or slippery with rasing and countering points (from my perspective anyway). In most of your history with her you, she engaged in some serious mental jousting because you were approaching in good faith. And you have always been a charitable and good faith debater (from my observations). Context for this thread: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/116710-women-are-better-hunter-science-suggests/?page=1

Don't conflate nice with honest and charitable (especially in this context - debate). I don't think it does anyone any service to try to argue (or frame in such a way) uncharitable tactics are acceptable.

Hence leaving the forum.

@Jirh @eos_nyxia I enjoyed your analysis above 🫶🏻 @integral It wasn't the winning or losing, right / wrong that resulted in @Emeralds departure. It was the dishonest, uncharitable debate tactics engaged in.

@Thought Art Definitely. Which is why we give grace. If we want to develop or work on ourselves, we have to admit that we can be wrong. We also need a good measure of openness AND groundedness in balance. To be here on this forum, wanting to develop, means we admit there is something that needs critical assessment, recalibration and change. Engaging in dishonest debate tactics often isn't an attempt to get closer to the truth. It's about winning and egos. The fact of the matter remains - some people are here just to debate. Some are here for spiritual insights, some are here for philosophy. It varies. We clash a lot when we think we are all here with the same meaning in tow, looking at the forum to fulfil or grow different aspects of our life.

Flood the zone with shit. Misinformation, disinformation. Obscure it all.

It is noticed for sure Same for me (regarding conduct). We all misbehave. Human nature. Grace is in how we reconcile. And I can see how this whole thread appears to run counter to reconsiliation. I think it is simply Emerald asserting a boundary for what she will/won't tolerate. Leaving the forum is the boundary.

I read your replies. Enjoyed them! I think you had a nuanced point that overlapped with Emeralds cohesively. There was a lot going on in that thread, and I suspect it was just a capacity/distraction issue that your arguements weren't addressed. I didn't see you engage with any dishonest argument tactics. This was the crux of Emeralds issue. Not losing or winning. The manner and conduct of engagement was the friction element. I have always read you as having an honest character in that way.

You had to, though. I am trying to illustrate how miscommunication is happening. I just expressed a feeling, you don't need to defend. I never claimed it was your fault or you were responsible.

@Thought Art I can confidently claim Emerald was not speaking about all men on the forum.

I am sad to read these words. You don't ask what I meant, but assumed you knew.

@oOo Enjoyed this breakdown - taking the lid off it all and inspecting the guts (didn't want to quote the whole thing as it would make this post huge!) Tackling presuppositions as above is an effective dismantle.

@Emerald Thank you. You are a true sister for us I note that I have not seen one woman disagree with the notion that this place repels women. Or is a turnoff.

@Carl-Richard ItS tO HeLp YOu fOR yOUr eDuCaTIoN Noob Need more concepts

Cheers for the share Fucking wild no arrests. I just randomly started looking for evidence or news and couldn't find squat. These cu*** are the scourge.