Natasha Tori Maru

I experience depression as being rooted in unexpressed anger. Anger strongly propels motion for me. I feel anger not acted on and repressed leads to depression. We can have feelings of frustration, elements of judgement & thoughts of righteousness behind the anger. When injustice happens and we get angry, but there is no path to solution (ie systemic issues with society we have little agency to change) anger frequently turns to depression. Lack of motion. Flat, low affect. From a Buddhist perspective depression would be "there is" an unpleasant feeling, thoughts, bodily sensations, memories, aversion, diminished motivation, identification with a particular narrative and changing conditions. Emotions and thoughts are difficult to define across the board due to the phenological nature of them. There is a lot of co-dependent arising involved in both. I keep returning loosely to the difference: a thought has cognitive content, whereas a feeling is an affective or felt experience. But this is not strict. Anyway I digress. Thanks for the contemplation

@Vynce Thanks for sharing. I experience depression as a relinquishment of the desire to experience. A stagnation of the feeling of anger. Immovable anger.

Typically this ends up with users who can display some quite profound insights - TOTALLY domain specific. I will read some great stuff from them. But I am hesitant to consider many here truly well rounded, mature people. Some users have regressed to retarded states in some domains (I use retarded in the formal sense, not the derogatory way). I am consistently shocked and disappointed when I read some really crazy takes from an otherwise intelligent sounding individual. Obviously we all have our blind spots. But relationships can be fantastic at fast-track revealing these - cross domain. And mainly because you are engaging in experiential reality with a team mate by your side. Direct feedback with another. Most people get caught in defining others by the value they bring in relationships. Ultimately they are about connection. And all of what true connection entails.

@Vynce What do you perceive depression reveals about the nature of your experience?

Strong argument.

Yes. Users here seem unaware that existing in intimate relationship to others is one of the quickest ways to grow in many domains Intimate relationships are unusually powerful developmental environments. They continuously expose you to feedback, conflict, vulnerability, difference, responsibility, and the limits of your self-concept. They are often catalytic for growth. Many users just don't know or have experience in a wide range of style, type, duration and connection within relationship. It is a limited experiential range producing limited awareness of what is possible. It doesn't help that at large - social media, dating apps and general internet dialogue is becoming less and less tolerant of conflict, friction, discomfort and navigating complex problems that come up between men and women - and just close intimate relationships in general - romantic or not. The ability to sit with discomfort is an important life lesson.

There is some domain and category error here. Maturity is its own seperate thing in different areas that requires defining before broad claims can be made. How old are you? Do you have a professional career? What field?

Too absolute. Not all relationships are immature.

This ain't it.

@LoneWonderer don't mind Joseph, this thread irritates him

So the surface we walk on has no impact on gait, the foot or mechanics? It won't effect the body over time? Doesn't sound right.

It is a challenge to maintain a regular habit. So often there is internal resistance to beginning the task. Once engaged it isn't so bad - and there is usually never regret after! I normally experience enhanced focus and wellbeing following a hard workout. It's only shit if you get injured or overtrain (overtraining is my issue).

I am glad to hear this!

@Cubbage I enjoy your speech patterns, pacing and accent - I recall noting that in your video for Majora's Mask while I was slicing up vegetables for dinner

I want that film to be good - but I am hesitant to get hyped. Pessimist in me >.<