Natasha Tori Maru

@Elliott again. Not all incels hate women. That doesn't mean that none do. Most do as a result of looking to attribute responsibility for their situation. My point still stands.

@Elliott I admire the persistence, but you need to work on the egoic attachment to being correct.

Hahaha, I see you cherry picking your sources and hiding replies that are proving my point again... Nice try nice try. Haha

There's no need for that. You are upset. Try to empty in a constructive way. It's just a technicality you were wrong about. It's not some huge character flaw. Just a factual thing. Let it go. You will feel better.

@Elliott in addition - the wiki entry is wrong. Incels as a culture did not arise after Elliot Rogers. It existed well before that. I was in those online spaces at the time. I recall it all.

Exactly. They often do, but not all. You just proved my point.

No need to be upset, just educate yourself.

Many times it's the men who don't speak who are the real threat. The hatred is in the action. Online hate is one thing. Many people talk a big talk. But hatred shown in action is disgusting. This is when it violates another's sovereignty and concent. It doesn't mean speaking hatred of women is right. But the acting out is infinitely more damning...

Those are some definitions from strange sources. GQ magazine hahahaha. Picking our little cherries. You need to look up where these terms originated from. They have been adopted by subcultures. But it's not what the mean. Or doesn't not mean they hate women. You don't even know what they mean and used the bastardized version without even knowing it. Nice try, though.

@Elliott incel means INvolitarily CELibate It doesn't mean all that shit tacked on. Those definitions aren't accurate.

I'm asking if you think this is true in all contexts?

@Elliott not all incels hate women. Consider you might be operating from a stereotype there. 2 of my best mates are incels. They do not hate or resent women. Sure, some do, but they do not hate women because they are incels.

When I was your age - I recall having many jobs and jumping often. I knew many didn't fit. My only guiding force during this time was 'whatever I do, go hard or go home'. I never wanted to waste my time. So even when I worked a shit job, I worked to my own high standards, regardless of how I felt about the job and if I was proficient. Or if it was the right role or fit. I just made sure to go hard. This ended up meaning I was always promoted up quickly. Because of this, new connections opened. New job opportunities in different areas. I worked in fields that typically needed qualification, but this was disregarded due to aptitiude and work ethic. I ended up finding the right job for me this way. Not saying what I did was correct. Not even sure that it will help; but even if you have a job that's temporary. That you know isn't a career yet. Work at it. Work hard at it. Speak your truth through action. Earnest, focussed, conscientious & diligent work will get you noticed, and open up doors you never thought possible. And just maybe - one of those doors will be the dream job. So better do something while you figure it out, and go hard at it 👊

@thirdtimelucky You asked what I think. He's a cooker. Not worth the time imo. Ungrounded. Seems under-socialised and scared. Young. He is probably a lovely well meaning chap. But not someone who should be followed or looked up to, in my opinion. Why are you asking me if I watched it? You linked it. I watched it. You asked me to watch it & for opinions. I took a look at the rest his stuff and decided it is not worth my time. Are you surprised I did not agree? What in particular do you not understand in the video? It was clear to me. He is afraid. And expressing fear.

pt.1 pt.2 https://youtu.be/txvK99bhL5o?si=EmZKZixggyxW8DzW I've watched both in full. Interested to hear thoughts and also to share a topic we have discussed previously @UnbornTao @CARDOZZO @Sugarcoat @Carl-Richard @ExploringReality @Joseph Maynor