Natasha Tori Maru

You need to educate yourself and purge your mind of this backwards thinking. My post is being sarcastic and returning your rhetoric against you.

Men must be a huge genetic mix of women's particles inside them then, they must be passing down all the genetic particles from the women that have gotten into their bodies and brains. Mens children must have all the traits from the women they have had sex with.

Not needing closure. Or Resolve. Settled. Residing - none of these are resistance to knowing. When I am in dialogue with someone I don't always feel like I need to come to a conclusion. In any event - I suspect you did not attempt to relationally understand me here - which is more what I am pointing to. My comment quoting you could have been a comment illustrating Leo's behavior. I don't think you asked me what I meant before assuming it applied to you (at least, this is what it how it appears) - and then defended. Relational understanding vs analytical understanding. Go too far one way we tend to retard the other.

Sometimes we have to inspect why we are motivated to respond. In fact - it is always beneficial to do so. Especially when we are analyzing someone's behavior rather than relating to them

Fear, anger & jealously are the poisons we drink expecting the other person to die. Don't drink.

This is what I call "provoking" an answer to an unspoken question (assumption, in this case). It can be a supremely powerful technique to prompt willingly given information from a person. It has the effect of drawing out information without the person feeling interrogated. It usually creates curiosity around what sort of context you are approaching someone from - hence the questions from the other party. The secondary affect is a useful proxy: you are essentially prompting a person to "correct" your assumption. This can be a pleasant agoic experience and reveals how YOU respond to being wrong & corrected. How you react here is important. If you can be corrected and remain open, curious & untriggered, you project calm safety signals which women immediately register. The context underneath this form of interaction is where the meat of the info is 😁

This is a broader topic that can also apply to many users issues with understanding women ❤️❤️❤️

If connection and the concept seems daunting - try thinking of just receiving. Receive her. All of her. Her totality.

@Olaf shit... I don't think you can escape logic! Maybe that's not the mechanism that blocks understanding. Understanding a woman isn't having an explanation but it IS being able to accurately reproduce the woman's personal meaning. You can be highly logical and deeply relational. Just can't jump into reasoning before you know what you are reasoning about. I use this sequence as a relational foundation with anyone, not just women. But it works for me: Connect (and I mean be with her, rather than trying to figure her out) -> observe -> clarify (questions) -> understand (get meaning from her perspective) -> reason (now assess with logic and rationality, critical thinking) -> respond Ideally, you end up in a positive open and mutual relational loop where she reveals something, then you reveal something, then she responds, then you respond. The error I see people fall into is they observe, theorise, classify then explain the women. What I don't ever do is use my explanation of a person (woman) as a substitute for a relationship with them. You want connection through intellect, feeling & empathy. Especially applies to women. But this also appeals to the feminine - so men will respond also (as men and women both have varied amounts of both qualities). The model you use can cockblock you if you aren't open, honest and prioritise new input with sound critical assessment. Logic isn't the enemy but locked down, closed models are.

Do you find new ways the book applies to you as you return to it at different life stages? It did for me, certainly. New messages jump out I missed before. I am not sure why people dismiss it as too elementary (maybe because it is simple). I think it's fundamental. ------- I really have a lot of respect for how open, transparent and vulnerable you are with your process. You can really see how powerful your inner voice is becoming through the work. That ends up translating to positive behaviour when authentically expressed. It's been my experience, anyway ☺️

I am not sure if you are consciously aware of what you are doing @Miguel1 . Your rhetoric has a recurring tendency to sidestep the user's actual point by moving the conversation onto a conceptual frame where you have already established the terms. You are dismissing through reframing. Not engaging with what is said. You did this to Xonas in your exchange, and with myself. It's this strange move toward epistemic positioning: you take the role of the person who identifies the deeper principle, correct the users framing, distinguishes the percived “real” issue from the superficial one, and explain the other's misunderstanding. This is subtly patronising and is not beneficial for the type of relational discussion you want. You position everyone as a subject to be corrected. I know this isn't your intention. But it is what is happening.

Bit of a grey area : Doxxing or DDoS The whole intent behind doxxing is to instigate groups to harass. And DDoS while it can be automated, is a similar groupthink frenzy when done via users.

Of course it's just the first few moments - but if it never gets beyond smalltalk, or smalltalk is that person's substance, then you know it's not the person for you. You are putting me down, you just can't see it. You are condescending. I don't care if you don't claim it. It still happened. Never said feelings are the whole truth.

Thanks for being patient with me

But all those questions are proxies - they show tone, intonation. Bring out body language. Expression. Spark further conversation into deeper subjects. Neutral small talk is a safe template to begin rapport. Eye contact. What topics they like. You can't avoid small talk. It only leads no where when you fail to see someone's eye twinkle on a topic and question more. Show real interest. Don't try to use your rhetoric to put me down like I don't know what depth, maturity and self awareness are. Stop that now. Feelings are part of your truth. You really want to avoid this topic.