Natasha Tori Maru

Self imposed temporary break from the forum. @Schizophonia will be back 👍

He raises some good points. I do question a lot of what you claim, as you often repeat manosphere / social media dialogues and claims almost to the T. You repeat all the main red pill catch phrases a lot. Not sure if you realise this, as it can happen when you are immersed in what algorithms feed you.

I am very selective and require emotional connection. Cannot do that casually because it lacks depth.

@Kid A 🤣 In before 'its not women's fault they are disgusting creatures, it is just their nature, we men need to adjust to their feral behaviours' and 'any man who disagrees is naive and hoodwinked by women' I am so filthy, don't you see!!!!

There is no guarantee of enlightenment no matter what you do; simply some things can make us more 'accident' prone.

Never a good thing to bypass another's suffering.

Damn right on the last point!

The only time I dislike humour is when there has been offensive stuff take place, and the humour is used to bypass an apology or contrition.

@Joseph Maynor @Ramasta9 I think some of the issue with weaponizing of SD is due to users perceiving the stages implying higher/lower development and equating it with intellect or morals. 'Later' gets all confused for 'better'. The sequence of it makes people instinctively rank the system. I understand it to be a value system and not a moral ladder. No-Self does get weaponized as well. Different axis though. Overall I think SD should be looked at to predict friction between value systems, help us communicate across stages & recognise our own blind spots. This would be applying the model in an attempt to understand and cooperate. Contrast that to some users leveraging it to divide, condescend or virtue signal morals. Just what I see on the forum. ANNNNYWAY! I digress sorry to derail.

I think maybe some of this is because users apply spiral dynamics to individuals. It sort of breaks when you do this. I can see how it applies as a useful frame for collective/societal development. But it gets weaponised here! @Terell Kirby thanks! I appreciate that. I can appear quite confident and certain with words, but I am constantly returning to how I deal with situations and moderate to reflect and grow. It has been a fantastic growth challenge, and I am really happy to give back in some way. I am harder on myself than anyone. But fair 🙂

Probably when users have their first cessation - but I haven't heard anyone speak about this here. Maybe I just haven't dug into the history enough. And boy have I done some diggin' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You do end up watching what those on the path go through (and this is similar for me too) - each new realization is built on the previous. Then the new ground acts as a frame to enable you to destroy/deconstruct previous knowledge. Each new piece of scaffolding you learn is used to erase all previous realisation. Until you experience total groundlessness. Even spirituality needs to be discarded. Leo needs to be discarded. God-consciousness needs to go also, else it becomes another ground for the ego to cling too. Until - cessation.

Or the big 8ft mantis ones

Dehumanising language - ie calling women 'trash' I agree is not on. Personal character attacks - ie labelling someone 'incel' is also not on. Critique behaviour or arguments - not identities. If you want to be heard, keep it focused on conduct and ideas. That goes for everyone. These topics are hard enough as it is to remain unbiased and fair.

Precisely!

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