Natasha Tori Maru

Can you see how on one hand you concede religious indoctrination could constitute abuse, then you backtrack into justifying based on outcome? We then move to the line of questioning - do means justify the outcome? There's some cognitive dissonance here. I am not trying to convince you out of your opinion - merely illustrating inconsistency in applying concepts.

@Hatfort do you think one can abuse another by having power over them, and misusing this responsibiy? Or do you disregard this based on age of consent (which is a made up rule by society)? I personally think your definition of abuse is too narrow. While @Monster Energy energy may define abuse under a larger umbrella of acts, the truth is somewhere in between.

@Monster Energy please don't make any more character judgements. Stick to arguing points.

If I were a parent, I would commit to making mistakes. No way around it. I would just aim to minimise them as much as possible, and instill critical thinking and good epistemic principles. Teach my child how to think. Not what to think.

You could replace all these synonyms with belief

@Monster Energy thanks for sharing. You dislike gatekeeping knowledge? Or blunting curiosity? I admit, I was that terrible child who incessantly wanted to know why. Would never move an inch without knowing precise reasons why I must do such-and-such. Luckily my father has the same habit, so entertained my questions constantly.

You used AI for that reply didn't you, dirty dog huehuehuehue 🤣 Fucked no matter the action we take, someone will end up abused! I suppose the next logical way to float this is harm minimisation. But then - determinism. Don't need to care, cos not responsible as I have no free will. Look at all the mental twisties and self deception strategies available! No wonder people end up fucked in their own mind mazes, justifying all sorts of actions - or inactions. As an aside - do you consider most violations of sovereignty as a 'negative', regardless of age of consent? This topic comes across as you engaging in a contemplation dyad of sorts. Only with many users. It is difficult to make out your stance as you appear to be refining it as the conversations progresses.

You could even reverse uno this - NOT educating your children could be seen as neglective abuse. An adult has a responsibility to prepare the child for life in society; instilling in them the knowledge, skills and habits to thrive. Abuse can be what we do, and what we do not. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

Thinking and observing for one's self is just as much of a lens as a framework absorbed from another. No one is ever a neutral observer. Empirically testing a model, direct observation and measuring against reality itself is where it is at - but bias is always present. Gotta manage that shit. Bias is a given

Reverse Uno shit: I actually struggle to identify a lot with the typical 'female' gender stereotype. It doesn't bother me, though. The hardest part is being authentic and facing judgement from other women, mostly. I get labelled as a 'pick me' woman quite frequently, due to much of my interests aligning more with typical masculine ones. Despite my demeaner being quite feminine in expression. The package appears feminine - but under the tinfoil wrapper is much more masculine leaning. I dove headlong into my own masculine side early in life, and after really touching this part of myself, my feminine naturally came into power. Perhaps your path may be similar - express the feminine and eventually the masculine will flourish like a pendulum swing to bring balance. I consider myself very balanced in expression, now.

Throwing me curveballs trying to gauge your taste >.< The Valerian movie by Luc Besson was shit - but I'll check the graphic novels out also. Love The Fifth Element - my favourite movie.

Dune was a bit of a slog at times, very slow to start. I'll check Hyeperion out - have you read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (Philip K Dick, Blade Runner was based on it)? Trying to gauge your taste to find overlap

@enchanted Heh heh it is amusing, @Basman is giving it a red hot crack Doubling down into infinity - the spiral!

I think for me, as a 'total' its that human behaviour is quite predictable once you understand power, insecurity and desire. Most people cannot grasp the uncomfortable truth so they end up being played. I think 48 laws of power is illustrating reality clearly, not how we WISH it worked. People misunderstand Robert's work and turn his stuff into manipulation tactics, paranoia and 'everyone is playing games'. I think this is a surfacy interpretation, because at the heart of it, it's more about awareness, choice & restraint. We can play the game, but if we know the game, we won't be ruled by it I also am quite dark and Machiavellian in nature, so I am not afraid of this aspect of Robert's work. I'll check it out! Cheers

@Eskilon skibidi I couldn't resist the impulse to conform to gen alpha lingo