Natasha Tori Maru

Hell, I mean - humans achieve death by diarrhea even. And we are indigenous FFS. We just do it to ourselves with our slow poison

@Joseph Maynor Thanks for sharing and taking the time with this detailed answer. Do you make a distinction between survival based feeling agenda and higher order feelings that arise once we have met basic needs? How do you see emotions different from feelings? This sort of topic overlaps with Maslow's Hierarchy of needs, as basic instincts are fulfilled, this leads us to the next 'platform' (so to speak) of emotion. Or as we fulfil basic needs we have access to higher order emotions. Anger typically isn't seen higher up on emotional scales of wellness - which is not to say it is good, bad or not useful/useful.

@Joseph Maynor cool 👌🏻 Can you give some examples of emotion / feeling arising independently of ego? Might be good to define ego etc while we are at it

@TruthFreedom hahahaha well, there you go - my interpretation was off the mark. One of the best things about art is the symbols mean something different for everyone. Thank you for sharing 😊

Should have just plowed Voldemort with 5meo https://youtu.be/UqWJ6uf8AGE?si=0Xgdq3oe6y5QWaQx

I genuinely do! I want to know what your reference was, or was it purely from recall? I like that no hard black shades were used to bring depth and instead you varied the colour. This always results in a better image, imo. Black shading often makes hand rendered images too much like a simulacra of life. It has the traditional balanced form of the Buddhist lotus position, juxtaposed with the Addidas stripe on the border of the robe - forcing they eye to settle in balance as it traces the stripes, and the up to the sash and symbol. There's a fluid visual harmony in the irony of such a combination - Buddhism is equinimity and balance. Desire / aversion. But then the brand Addidas is about desire, status, attachment. Brilliant chicanery 😈

Similar to the domain of sex for men. That drive has the potential to override rationality. Strong drives override higher order reasoning. For both sexes.

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It's a myth. Not even - it's part of toxic online communities and algorithms. It's often quoted as a statistic stripped of context, often from dating apps and then applied to the wrong domain. Beauty is very subjective. Status doesn't mean shit to some women. To others it does. Some women want a man with lots of money; some don't. Personality and the ability to engage her positive emotions is usually very attractive to a women. It can trump almost any other quality.

Then 'tis not so Have a nice night

Okay this is why you are quite charged. Read what I wrote again - at no point did I say it was unrefined. More that we can always refine our views. Not you per se. All of us. The conversation is an opportunity for me to refine my thoughts also ! I didn't say it was unrefined - you assumed.

Oh right, got it. I just couldn't see where you argued a clear case that anger was arising outside of ego. I felt like that conversation went by the wayside and didn't even get started. I'm certainly not minimising conflict. I don't mind conflict.

No worries. I didn't even realise there was disagreement.

@Joseph Maynor in the recent line of enquiry I don't think anyone is denying anger in their experience. Well at least, I do not. Anger happens in everyone's experience. I think it is part of being human. This topic is very tied in to our individual affect and temparements in general. As a side point, most people aren't even able to distinguish anger from a whole host of other feelings/emotions that run parallel or can feel very similar.

You beat me to it!