Natasha Tori Maru

Replace 'no seperate self' with vague putdowns around other users ability to comprehend, or 'you haven't experienced that truth yet'. Or implications some users are above others. I see it as the mind applying states and rank that have nothing to do with the codependent arising of subject/object experience. Which remains the guts of infinity/unity/love/emptiness/fullness/awareness becoming aware of self. Perhaps it is more a comment on where others are at in process. But this discussion of infinity is a language and definition issue. Some users are using 'infinity' and 'absolute infinity' to point to something different and they haven't defined how they are using the terms. Just my perception regarding this conversation.

@KoryKat stop spamming your AI slop. You have to disclose AI use in all posts containing AI.

I understand what he is trying to say. I get what a paradox is - I was pointing toward the feeling the spiel came across like Curt would like to disregard paradox to make everything nice and neat 💀

Oh, so they did go into the paradox of it... But it has to be that way. I think this is why I immediately went to thinking it a paradox just pondering your question. Curt thinks a paradox is a cop out? 🥴 And yeah Curt has been rebranding and altering all his previous thumbnails. Not a fan...

Neither 💀 Not knowing it is 🥹

Oh my gosh. What am I watching ...

Sounds like existence being nothing and all things as a paradox. Doesn't sound very surprising either... Empty and full

I don't know about those other discoveries - my observation was just from that context that Curt was asking from. I only speak on absolute infinity not infinity. Which is probably the issue in translation. I have the flaw in my own thinking of coming at things from a mathematical perspective because of University training. I think Curt was definitely rationalising and attempting to apply mathematical proofs frequently in that interview - which lead to the framing of some questions standing on a bunch of presuppositions. He was well meaning - attempting to look at crossovers between science/maths in Leo's worldview. I think it just lead to some questions that weren't offering clarity. I'd have to rewatch it to go further 🙃

If you are talking about a set (the mathematical term I take it, as a bounded conceptual container, as this was the context of Curt's question I recall) of absolute infinities by definition none of those elements within the set can be an absolute infinity. Rendering the question null and void.

I do not see why Leo wouldn't? The reason it might seem like some form of hell to endure is simply because we have a stupid view of time

I am glad, as I did not think I had anything revelatory to add - more I questioning prompt I hoped might steer? I wish I had someone to speak to on these things a long time ago when I was turned a bit inside out during process. AI would have helped too

The literal face of constipated, passive-aggressive 'no-self' discourse

@James123

Theres a few different versions of what is meant by 'consciousness' being tossed around here. Perhaps a clarifying reframe: ‘Can awareness be channeled or localised through a computer system in the same way that it can become localised through us?’ We, as humans, do not even have clarity around localization of awareness.