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@Arthogaan Hm I see. Try telling it "Isn't that stage Turquoise?" and see what it says. For me when I asked for a list of stages this is what it gave me, Red Amber Orange Green Yellow Turquoise Indigo Magenta

Ask it to simulate a debate between two stages. It will start writing the debate but as the arguments get more nuanced it just breaks down and shows "Error in body stream". Edit: It stopped doing that after a few times. It looks like it now adds a simple "The debate may continue here on to ....." after it gets too complex.

Guys ask it about stage coral, it gets confused. At first it started explaining stage purple, when I told it, it apologized and corrected it's mistake. Then I asked about Coral again and it started explaining turquoise lol

I tested ChatGPT and I think regarding how complex it's thinking can get, it's limitations lie at being able to comprehend loops and paradoxes. Because to be able to comprehend a paradox, one needs to remember multiple variables in their head and their paradoxical relationships to each other. However the AI forgets the previous variables when presented with new ones which it must relate to the earlier variables. It cannot do that and therefore repeats it's responses. More specifically what I mean is, when presented with a concept(variable), it has a basic default understanding of it, but when built upon it, it's understanding evolves into a more nuanced variable for the rest of the conversation. However, when another such nuanced variable is built upon and is attempted to be connected with the previous nuanced variable, it fall backs to the basic default version of the old variable and connects the new nuanced variable to the old basic one. Therefore not being able to comprehend the paradox and repeating it's older responses which would again need to be corrected and the old basic variable would need to be built up again. This is very similar to humans and why an average person would also be similar and keep falling back to their old responses and not understanding something. You can't mindfuck this bot just like you can't mindfuck a person unless they connect the dots you are trying for them to connect, I think this is what the bot lacks. Humans in general use a lot of paradoxical and loopy thinking in their everyday life whether they realize this or not. We call them irrational. If the bot was able to comprehend paradoxes it will easily pass the Turing test even in the most strictest sense. When testing how good the bot is at handling paradoxes and loops, make sure to not ask it anything too mainstream such as the grandfather paradox as it will default to a basic explanation. Ask it something philosophical which you know is paradoxical. Such as the difference between absolute and relative truths as already done by a previous poster here.

There are degrees to the no-self insight. Even if you get it, at first it would be pretty worldview-shattering but only for a few moments and you quickly get used to it. You find nothing special about it because it changes nothing, you still suffer, it's just been recontextualized. But overtime the no-self insight gets pretty profound. It starts changing your emotion and even your body as you embody it more and more. Every deeper awakening into just the no-self is as worldview shattering as the last. I don't understand much about God realization so I can't say anything about that. But as far as the first few no-self awakenings go, they are a very foundational building block for going further, even though they seem like nothing special at first. Try having some awakenings using Love and integrating that with no-self and see what happens. You can access bliss just through intensifying you awareness of universal Love, but it's bringing in the no-self insight, that really takes that bliss to the next level.

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@Ulax Santa was just giving her her Christmas gift! You are way too biased that's why you saw it how you did. In fact, he knew you'd be disappointed so he tried lying to not ruin your Christmas. He's definitely a Stage Yellow Construct Aware individual at the least. Last year he provided me with a bag of cocaine in a back alley so I could get started on my psychedelic journey and it only cost a few hundred bucks!

@Tristan12 Intellectual sharpness can also be increased. By increasing your baseline clarity of perception. The clearer you can perceive, the faster you can understand and learn. And a human's potential at clarity is massive. It's just right now we don't have enough clarity to figure out where we lack clarity to learn/understand certain something. So it's important to develop a good foundation first. In theory it should be possible to make yourself more intelligent at something you just need to figure out where you need to develop that clarity of perception. Just increasing your clarity in general already gives you a boost at things such as contemplation, pattern recognition, etc.

All you need to do is experience life and deconstruct your mind. Think about it, wouldn't you know how to use your mind most efficiently if you knew it's ins and out? Wouldn't you be able to use language for your betterment and lots of efficiency if you knew what you REALLY meant by each word? It's not just deconstruction but also experience. Most of the intelligence you see flowing from Gurus is not there naturally but rather it's developed through experience. You experience the same thing over and over again until you notice it, and then after a few more repetitions you realize what it is. The subtle patterns and forms in your mind become increasingly noticeable as you experience them more. At some point things you thought were too subtle to even glimpse become as solid as real objects. And once your self awareness reaches that level it's only natural to be able to perceive a system thoroughly and finds it's loopholes at a glance. It becomes increasingly easier to contemplate. Don't worry yourself with intelligence, whatever that means for you. Just form a good base and foundation for your mind. Maybe intelligence is being able to notice these subtleties faster. But that doesn't concern you, because I believe even an average person can reach what you want to IF they are determined enough to deconstruct and become self-aware. Your ego plays a major role in determination. So make sure to harness it's power. "I want to be intelligent" "I want to be above all else" or anything similar, this is your determination speaking.

I am also in this phase and you seem so much better off than I do so don't sweat it. I just allow myself to distract myself and notice it consciously, and finally after a few months I am coming to a point where my craving for distraction is slowing down and I am even attracted to not distract myself. As if naturally wanting to do what's 'right'. I am not telling you to let yourself go in distraction but maybe consciously indulge in it when you do distract yourself.

Hard to find courses in Hindi for such things specially for more spiritual things that categorize self realization etc. without much religious dogma but for those who speak Hindi here I have found a channel. Check out the "Gyanmarg" playlist on his channel. Pretty dang good.

@Someone here What's right here is that nothingness. I am not trying to preach non-duality but you gotta apply that here. What you observe is nothingness and so are you. Worrying about the universe suddenly changing states into nothingness can only come from a lack of understanding that it's already nothing. Yes, you don't know if you're making sense or not, you're only believing it because you see others replying coherently to your thread. But how do you figure if they are being coherent or not? Through your own sense making no? How do you know that's coherent? Through others? That's circular reasoning. By chaos I mean complete inconsistency. How would you ever know if reality isn't already completely insane but you just, being insane, think it's sane? What I meant was how do you know if the past even happened? Worrying about whether the past happened to begin with is the primary concern, and only after answering that could you worry about, will the future be consistent?

Sounds orange if that's all there is to that statement

How'd ya know the universe hasn't collapsed into nothingness already? How do you know you are speaking coherently and making sense? You don't know if any of your thoughts are rational or not. You don't know if your idea of rational is rational or not. How do you know you're not in complete and utter chaos right now. You don't. I think worrying about consistency should be done more like this. What happens physically should be a secondary issue. You can worry about whether the sun will rise tomorrow after figuring out if it ever rose to begin with.

@Julian gabriel The basic thing you need to be able to do is generate pressure in the middle of your chest where the heart chakra is. This pressure is exactly like how it feels when you'd focus on the third eye chakra. It's hard at first, or atleast was for me, so what I did was to focus on generating love within my psyche. You could do it by thinking about something or someone you love. Once you feel that love grab onto it and try introspecting what that is. Once you have a good understanding of that feeling, generate it more and more, again and again. Eventually you want to move away from your head and generate that love in your chest(if you weren't already). At some point you'll be able to feel something in your chest. Eventually with practice you'll be able to generate pressure instantly in your chest when you focus on it. I am generating it as I write about it. You should then work on making it more dense but also cover a larger area on your chest. After generating the pressure or even before, you need to do shadow work, think about your life, browse through your memories. Feel nostalgic. Nostalgia is key. Maybe put on some music. Feel that nostalgia. That's you becoming vulnerable, opening up. Also find ways to humble yourself. You know those moments when somethings humbles you so bad it hits you in the chest? Look for those experiences. Another thing you need to do is be more emotional, doesn't matter which emotion, just indulge into it. Jealousy, anger, happiness, sadness, love, don't care, just show it on your face and your body. Express it outwards. Become a beacon of emotion and do not care whether others are able to tell or not what emotions you're feeling. Let them judge and let them know. It's important you express your emotions consciously and not make foolish choices. Also understand that the emotions you put out in the world is what others absorb and become themselves. If you're angry you'll likely make others around you angry too. The key word is vulnerability. When you open your heart you're making yourself vulnerable. You feel vulnerable, sensitive and soft. You feel that if anyone were to strike you, you'd be dead in an instant, yet you're ok with that and not paranoid at all. Instead, you're happy, and feel safe(possibly due to a good root chakra, not sure). You're ready to sacrifice yourself for even an ant. There is no logical reason behind this feeling. You need to do these things in several sessions because you're chipping away at the layers of walls built around the heart. At some point you'll reach the seed of your being. It'll be so sensitive, vulnerable and gentle that you'll gag(as in cry) when you find it for the first time. When the last layer of that wall breaks, there'll be a big release of energy and you'll feel orgasmic in your chest for a while, this is only a one time thing. It may become permanent on higher levels of consciousness I am not sure. This is currently the point where I am at. Occasionally when you feel into the seed, it shoots up a geyser of energy through the higher chakras. For me it hits the roof(crown chakra) and dies down after a while. It hits the roof because my crown chakra is closed. Another thing to be noted is integrating your heart chakra with every other chakra, specially the solar plexus as that chakra deals with the ego, and plays a major role in the negative polarity. I think for integrating those two just feel into them together and do what feels right and feels like 'integration'. I don't have much experience in that so I can't explain it in words. Another helpful thing to do is to shift your awareness from the head to the chest. So that when you feel into the chest, it feels like your focusing on the center of your being and not somewhere down there below you. And so that when you think of yourself, you naturally focus on the chest and not on the head. So that when you think of your head, it feels like the head is somewhere up there. The chest is a nice place to rest your awareness as this place is naturally very warm and protected by the rest of the body around it. Last thing, it'd be great if you could watch teachers and construct your content diet to be focused around compassion and love. Although I'll be honest, I never did this. But I just might start now.

The model of negative and positive polarity from the RA material is helpful here. What you seem to be urging for is growth in the negative polarity. That happens when the heart chakra is closed if I understand correctly. On the negative polarity you can still realize you're everything and all that, even transcend suffering to some degree, without any element of love involved. The only difference would be that you'll get your energy and bliss from conquering others while the positive polarity gets it near effortlessly just through existing. I think you should work on your heart chakra and balance it with the solar plexus.

Great post, I think this summed up all my thoughts about this forum

The purpose of the dream is infinite in nature. Because it can be anything you want to make it. There is no 'objective' purpose because any purpose can be objective depending on your POV. To define a purpose one needs to go outside of what it's defining but you can't go outside of the dream/reality. Any purpose you may find will always be a part of the dream. By saying all this I am not avoiding the problem of "What's the purpose of this dream?", this IS the answer. So honestly it's not even that deep whether you should help someone awaken from the dream or not. It's not like you'll EVER go against the purpose of the dream lol. And if you worry about whether you'll mess someone up by delivering the teachings at the wrong time, well that's a question regarding personal ethics. That depends on where you draw the line and that's very relative.

I have watched Aubrey Marcus's Podcasts with him. I'd like to believe him but I got really no evidence to do so.

In my experience one of the biggest reason for this is living in a society where you are constantly blasted with people identified with themselves talking and behaving in ways that imprint you with that level of being. If you have ever reached a state of bliss or whatever with no sense of self and proceed to talk to people or consume normal media, the self-obsessed nature of people is clear. But then as you interact more and more, you slide to that exact same state yourself. For me, who isn't as well established into the higher states, I'd slide down anyways even without interaction, however with interaction it's much faster. Without interaction, maybe a few hours; with interaction? 30 - 50 mins and I am back to being identified with the self. I need guidance as to how I can sustain such levels of consciousness where I am literally leaking out of my body because of how disidentified I am, but still manage to interact with people without lowering my level? I know it's possible but how? For those of you who are more experienced in this I have more questions I am dying(pun intended) to have answered. In default states and even in such states I feel like I am suffocating in a way I can't explain, and through previous experiences I know the way to solve this is to open my heart, because once I did it for a split second and it felt like I took a big gasp of air after suffocating my whole life. But no matter how hard I try, I cannot open my heart in the right way to feel that breath of fresh air again. Need help. My third question is how do you head towards God realization from here(without psychedelics, I do not intend to take them yet)? I have heard the next step after self-realization would be to experience the void and have enough experience of it to move past the bliss of self-realization. But what is this void and how do I experience it? Maybe God realization is too high a goal to aim for sober, if that is the case then where can I go from here in general besides embodiment?

Enlightenment doesn't have a single meaning, different gurus use it differently and so does every seeker's version of what it means to be enlightened is different in a really broad way. Meaning you should not worry about whether you fit the label Enlightened or not as in someone's definition you definitely do. Some believe it has some sort of objective meaning but you quickly learn that it's just a relative word as it stands now. And as you realize more and more how much you have yet to awaken, you keep pushing what it means to be Enlightened further up the conscious scale. In my definition of Enlightened 2 years ago, yes you are Enlightened. Now? I don't even know what that word means anymore tbh. For most people the definition goes like this: As long as I see you on par with the most conscious person I have heard about, I'll call you Enlightened. Some go to say that Enlightened is a specific awakening or realization after which there is still a long way to go. But one needs to keep in mind that's also just a definition. I still think it's important though to see in which definitions you are considered as Enlightened if you seek to interact spiritually with others for eg, Teaching.

@UpperMaster It took too much energy to sustain so I stopped after a while but I believe it should be possible to make it the baseline after practice.

One thing I have found useful in this regard is the 'lucidity' you feel during certain awakenings really increases your spatial awareness. I was having an awakening walking on the street and I could tell by body heat how big, how close, and how fast someone was walking behind me, if at all. It was crazy, it was like having your back turned into an energy sensor. Didn't last long for me though. This lucidity feels exactly like being lucid in a dream, if you have ever experienced it. It can also be followed by amnesia as well so yeah. You become so lucid you lose your memories.

@TEOTLR Thanks for your response. Can you please elaborate more on this? What is this physical connection? Does this dissolve by observation? What happens if this connection is strong vs light vs gone?

Enjoying fictional books is pretty hard for those of us who see books as a source of knowledge not entertainment. It feels like you are wasting your time. Well, read it when you are wasting your time then. When you'd have wasted your time anyways for example watched a movie/show/youtube video, just read that book. Although if you're goal is other than to enjoy the story itself then I don't see you finishing the book. I'd only read a fiction book if I believe it will connect to me on some level and resolve some karmic issue inside. But that's the case with any sort of entertainment.