mandyjw

Oh this is most fun Easter egg hunt I've ever had the privilege of participating in. Stephen Moleneux is an enlightened devil. My friend just called me and I asked for the thing that upset her most about Stephen Moleneux, she loves him. She said she couldn't understand this. She's attracted to guys who hurt her, she can't stay away from them so how could this be true? "The moral argument for integrity in relationships is simple: Love is our involuntary response to virtue, if we are virtuous. We cannot love those our values define as evil/immoral. Either they change, or our values change, or there is no real relationship. That’s the “cult.” https://mobile.twitter.com/stefanmolyneux/status/1108558087139426304?fbclid=IwAR3Og1uwV8YTzsSr5FRGyp5hGIJe2-IcjA_3Yve1LMWuuHQnUWvfvRpK5Bs Nonduality teaches us that there's no such thing as virtue, virtue is the ego, virtue is evil, virtue blocks us from real love/enlightenment. The question is, what is Stephen Moleneux trying to point out to us exactly? The whole world is out to enlighten you.

@Identity There's something extremely important going on here, with him as a piece of greater the nonduality pie, but I'm not ready to put my finger on it.

Where do you go from stage Stefan Molyneux? Asking for a friend.

@DocHoliday Oh ok, most of those are from when I was a really young kid. Mostly they were pictures in National Geographic magazines of disasters. The most memorable one wasn't that horrifying, it was a picture of the McDonald's arches and there had been such a flood that the water was over the buildings and up to the yellow arches. The idea that that could even happen just blew my mind and the McDonald's arch was a measure I knew, something I could relate to. I remember several other stories of horrible injuries and violence that i couldn't have imagined before. Another was as a teenager, falling in love with someone I shouldn't have, spending the year as friends, finally telling him and being rejected and then being told a few years later that he didn't even remember me at all.

Real love is like the light of the sun, it's not selective but falls equally on everyone.

A lot of people like myself have trouble focusing on breath. It's pretty easy to start hyperventilating at first. I found it really helpful to focus on a low hum in the room, fan, air conditioner, background noise, etc. There are also teachers who teach to feel the inner body, it's easiest to start with your hands and feel the aliveness in them and let that spread throughout your body. I also like to focus on the colors that appear and change when I close my eyes. I just wanted to let you know that there are many other ways to go about it. Try just 5 minutes, it can feel pretty wonderful if you don't make it into a chore.

You certainly do feel vibrations, you just don't know that you are. I have an awesome example for you. If you've taken a basic art class you've learned about complimentary colors. They are colors that are opposite each other on the color wheel. They cause color to pop and grab your attention, it causes a vibration. Think red and green for Christmas colors. Or thinking about loud clashing colors, colors that are hard to look it. "Cool" colors are of a different vibration and soothe you. Color powerfully affects how we feel. How is that? It's through different vibrations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementary_colors

Thich Nhat Hanh has a way of teaching some really hard lessons in such a gentle loving way.

I was inspired by Leo's use of this metaphor the other day.

Beautiful.

@now is forever I just read this from the Tao and thought it was perfect for this conversation. "Everybody says my way is great but improbable. All greatness is improbable. What’s probable is tedious and petty. I have three treasures. I keep and treasure them. The first, mercy, the second, moderation, the third, modesty. If you’re merciful you can be brave, if you’re moderate you can be generous, and if you don’t presume to lead you can lead the high and mighty. But to be brave without compassion, or generous without self-restraint, or to take the lead, is fatal. Compassion wins the battle and holds the fort; it is the bulwark set around those heaven helps"

@now is forever People have to play roles in life though. Sometimes you have to lead and sometime you have to submit.

@now is forever That's a true and fascinating point. Religion is a religion. Anti-religion is also a religion.

@now is forever It's all beautiful. The picking and choosing whether done by the religious or the person who is looking from the outside at the religious, is what makes the ugly.

I had a religious upbringing, I'm really thankful for it now. It made me much more keenly aware of the dangers of being so dogmatic. I don't think I would have had the same connection with the mystic at a young age AND an awareness of the suffering caused by making a "me and other" if I have been raised by atheist parents.

Telling lies drains your own power. Trying to alter someone's view of reality for your own purposes is always done because you don't understand that reality is God and the other person is also God. You don't have that power and you can't get away with it. It's a complete misunderstanding of your own power. Having said that, don't trust what anybody tells you, especially not the things that you tell yourself.

@Nahm That's so weird. I've been eating blueberries everyday but I thought I was doing it for my third eye chakra.

When children become adults they often go from people's compassion lists to their shit lists. At some point an abused child becomes an adult and if a miracle does not happen to them before that point, they often become an abuser. At that point we completely lose compassion for them. This is why abuse cycles and replicates itself. Not because abused kids grow up to be abusers but because the world stops loving them at some point. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" - African proverb

When you fully know and are able to see this, the world throws things at you that seem incredibly special to the egoic mind. But if you fall for the trap and call them special and begin to see other things that are of less importance again, you will create utter havoc and misery for yourself and others.

Oooofff. I could have written that. I know you don't want short responses but other people ARE yourself. I came here to help others and instead I ended up getting all kinds of help that I didn't think I needed. When I finally accepted it I felt the love and connection that I was looking for. I wish you the best. Lots of love. Don't cut yourself off from love. It's your essence and everything that binds together and makes up the world. Love really hurts sometimes, that's the side of love you are feeling. Don't you know the saying that it is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all? Do you disagree?

@SoonHei

I had a really long hermit phase. It came from the desire to be whole which is a beautiful thing and progress in itself. I felt close to whole when I was alone but absolutely torn apart in the company of other people. Other people brought/bring out my ego. Instead of suspecting myself I blamed and avoided other people. It will make monkey mind worse but try to push yourself in this area. Having a still mind feels wonderful but when you chose to experience monkey mind purposefully it can lead you to great realizations. Have compassion for yourself and don't push too hard too fast. Self love is love for others, it's all you. You want to feel at home alone or around people. You want to experience yourself/everyone fully.

@Truth Addict The practical part is coming along. Thanks to you.

@Salvijus Also slightly different wording from the Tao, "Everybody on earth knowing that beauty is beautiful makes ugliness. Everybody knowing that goodness is good makes wickedness."

Life gives us gifts. But if we cling to them and try to use them to make us feel important they turn to dust in our hands. Life has continually cursed me with giving me everything I want. Things I never thought to dream of as a child. Things I thought were impossible. Eventually you learn to love it all and learn to recognize when you start to cling. I still get tripped up. Want to hear about the disaster that ensued when I tried to love my son over another child in his class?