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Here's whats wrong with apple from someone in the field of Information Technology (computers). This has nothing to do with their ethics but purely their product. They sell less for more, they take ideas from other companies and claim it their own, they have great marketing that allowed them to become the standard among the population despite having a worse product. They are extremely secure to a point where everything is monitored and very hard to change. Its android counterparts are equally as good, just not as popular. Those are the main problems. You can find an android phone, for hundreds less, where you will have a better user experience. With customization and endless possibilities.

In the least narcissistic way, I feel I've gone much faster then that, although im much younger and probably more susceptible to change. I was very right wing when i was quite young. Then I had an awakening that shifted me fairly left wing, and after a bit I found myself at green for a good while. Now I feel im certainly in between green and yellow approaching full yellow more and more everyday.

I see what your saying, but i genuinely dont want to commit these acts. I'm not saying why shouldn't I particularly. I'm saying whats objectively wrong about these actions we usually call bad or evil. Although throughout reading here i believe I have some more clarity. It feels obvious that anything that goes against the inherent nature of the universe would be seen as bad or feel wrong. Thats probably where these ultimate things came from in society. Feelings and emotions. But, of course, only sith deal in absolutes haha. I'm fairly surprised this post got as popular as it did. Lots of thoughts on the topic. Thank you for your contributions.

... and he did achieve great (in his eyes) results and love from his supporters.

I agree to an extent. I do feel drawn to the idea of realistic job positions in this field of consciousness. Would be an exciting development. Only time will tell.

Just wanted to thank everyone here for their replies. I'm surprised such an environment exists in the world.

Well from what leo said Id take it as no. Ignoring suffering beings would be less Conscious and less loving right? So in turn it would be bad? The only real solution I see here is to kill all puppies so they are no longer a moral dilemma.

I didn't ask you to spend half an hour waxing lyrical about what you guessed I were really asking. I feel I'm usually pretty good at explaining myself but these topics aren't simple. Most things are just understandings and concepts that are difficult to express linguistically. If they can be at all. I'm sorry you had trouble understanding what I meant.

To be honest. I'm not sure the world is ready. If the whole would was exposed to this mindset and teaching it would be seen as rediculous by many. Id imagine it would be better to grow incredibly slow gathering only those who are ready for it. But idk, if leo felt this was a good idea I think it would be very cool and interesting.

I see what your saying. I'm not really explaining myself as well as I hoped but thanks for your addition. And true the 5 precepts certainly will keep you out of trouble societally.

Must be why no ones gone through with it yet. No one can afford gods head rates haha

You could be right, although not my intention. Ill try to tread carefully, thanks.

Thank you, your wisdom is always appreciated. I'm not necessarily trying to create a formal mechanical process to follow. Its very hard to express in words exactly what i mean to ask but despite my difficulties you've answered in an incredibly helpful way.

I know the 5 precepts i studied buddhism for some time. But why are those true? If everything is an illusion, what does it matter.

Why is looking for a reason a problem.

No i get why we do them. I get that since were raised in society we follow these rules. were taught to. But why is that right? why is societies moral code something we should follow when we come to the realization of illusion. That good and bad are not true. Why does everyone deserve a decent chance to live if its all an illusion

Usually yes the average human reacts directly to what they experience through the narrow lenses were given by default. But It wouldn't negatively affect me if i thought i wasn't doing wrong. The only reason we feel bad about hurting others is because we believe it is wrong. So I cant seem to see any reason as to why these things inherently shouldn't be done. I want there to be one but with this elevated thinking im missing the point somewhere.

Its not inherently wrong to make people feel bad emotions if good and evil, right or wrong are illusions

But isnt that all an illusion? What does it matter.

Define dumb. Everyone is dumb to someone who is smarter. There's probably some weird sentient blob alien looking at you thinking your dumb haha. I agree though ill raise your payment 2k per person. You hear that god? Split the pot nearly doubled, Jesus gonna have to make a second appearance.