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@Leo Gura can you expand on what you said about game making you a stronger man? I recently got back into serious game, daily approaching, even taking a train into manhattan daily just to do serious game, and yesterday I did 3 approaches after 6 months, but rather than with the intention of getting girls, my mind has been set on becoming a powerful man (partly because of what you said, how you cant explain it but it really does make you a powerful man, and what owen cook said in his blueprint course, about how this is really about developing deep internal value) .. In the past, I've gamed with the mindset that it will surely produce some good personality characteristics, but just from one day of cold approaching, yesterday, I felt a strong reduction in fear. I came home and set up the christmas tree, no hesitation, just effortless, something id leave to my family or maybe go thru hours of mental work just to get myself to do. I can really see that game can make me a powerful man. But since yesterday, Ive been curious as to why that is. How is something so simple as talking to girls, something that feels like an external "doing-based" activity, produce deep internal powerful change?

well that was quite the roller coaster

@Leo Gura yeah I figured, it will also be expensive for most consumers, but i do like to dream big, envision the future and automate as much in my life thats sort of SOP .. I do think one day they will be pretty common in households too, b2c, maybe within 6 to 10 years, bezos and musk are always looking to create cheaper consumer items

Im trying to think of the use case though, if someone is to get one: id prob just get one for cooking, cleaning, but what else is there?

Elon: We must stop all AI progress after GPT4 Also Elon: Develops the highest tech AI robot by miles Me: stops fighting and just eats popcorn watching this all unfold

With respect and kindness, I used to be in all kinds of fantasies .. i watched this movie recently, vanilla sky, about a man who got stuck in this romantic fantasy for ages, and he realized after all that wasted time, that he'd rather choose truth. At the end of the day, wasting time on fantasies that wont yield anywhere will just leave in regret. Just my perspective though.

To everyone and @Leo Gura Wanted to share an account I have been following, this girl is living in Gaza, reporting on it. Here is the instagram profile: https://www.instagram.com/wizard_bisan1/ She is very well-spoken. She is receiving overwhelming support, half a million likes per post, which is nice to see that so many around the world are rooting for her and the palestinians. I personally learned a lot and can empathize more with palestinians. She is constantly reporting from a first person's perspective, things like the delusions she and her family are experiencing, live footage, daily challenges .. whats heartbreaking is seeing how she went from a normal instagram girl to her current situation, if you look at her past posts. Subtle things like how she would care about instagram filters in the past, and now no care in the world. War would do that to you, make you let go of petty things like IG filters. Small, but I think it matters.

@Leo Gura how can someone like elon be incredibly smart, build high conscious companies that are actually successful (except twitter and maybe neuralink), possibly be a force of major good in the AI safety space giving high quality insight there, yet at the same time be so dysfunctional with his politics, befriending some highly dysfunctional people like Alex j. or Andrew tate, work habits, the way he treats workers, etc. ... i honestly dont know how thats possible .. but just the fact that hes a major force in ai safety, global warming, etc. some of humanity's biggest problems to solve .. wouldnt that make him a net positive for society?

@Leo Gura I have been following this very intensely, listening to all the experts on this, and I also have no doubt we've had encounters, but I still dont get why there aren't clear, high def photos and videos online? or why there isn't anything that is super clear and obvious that is viral, such as a video encounter? or why these interactions are so rare and hidden? Have you found the answers to any of these questions? Then there are other things I wonder, which is much farther away from discovering the truth, so I don't expect to find that easily: what planet are they from? why are they interested in our nuclear bases? why dont they show themselves in like nyc or something or why dont they attack us

@Leo Gura also I noticed over the years you try your best to make this forum as incel-less as possible, and a bias towards respecting women that goes a bit on the extreme, a good thing in my opinion as we need more respect for women overall as a society, and actually I think that bias is important otherwise incels would infiltrate.

@Leo Gura With respect, Ive noticed you do it too lol just to bring it to your awareness in case you dont see it sometimes, I could be wrong tho .. more subtle than this comment, but ive noticed over the years .. ofc its always fun hearing your stories

@Leo Gura at first i was like whats the big deal if its in vegas, especially compared to the wilder shit he's talking about, then i realized you live there .. don't get any wild ideas to check it out now lmao but if you do we'd love a field report

I don't know how to explain the particular kind of social anxiety I have, but I'll try to explain it. I'm not trying to say that Im some unique snowflake lol .. but Ill explain my thought process here. So I've cold approached a lot. (300 approaches over the years) And with cold approach I always usually talk to a single person. Im a guy and whenever I talk to a girl, Im usually fine. Im normal, casual, a bit flirty if I want to be. But when it comes to groups, things are different. Usually in the beginning of entering a group, I start to really choke up (social anxiety wise) .. and this is pretty much any kind of group. Even my 2 closest friends, I just start choking up and getting anxious. It got to the point where I have to drink alcohol any time I enter a group situation. And at 3 beers Im usually having a great time, social, etc. but only with alcohol. This really got amplified 2 years ago, I was hanging out with a group of friends and I really was choking up, anxious .. it happens even more when its quiet around us, like no music is playing or whatever. But then the girl from the group is like "why are you all scared" and like attacking me, and that made me shut down even more. And now I cant enter most group situations without alcohol. There's family Ive wanted to see for many years, but Ive been avoiding them because of this. Up until today I was like okay its fine, I'll fix it later after I fix my financial situation more, but now it's like Okay I really need to fix this, work on it 4 to 5 times per week. The way I would describe this social anxiety is situational: It mainly happens when its quiet around me, in groups of 2 or more, with people who I know judge me or dislike me, with my aunt and uncles (in my culture they tend to be more on the judgemental side), and other situations too like in conversation I would laugh at something but then suddenly get self-conscious about my laugh and then kind of shut down, or someone brings up something from my past that is hard for me to talk about. Sometimes I think though that some of these situations are different from social anxiety. Like some things could be associated with trauma and OCD which I have also. But at the same time I spend a lot of time alone, and my OCD and trauma doesnt make me anxious so I have a feeling this is all just social anxiety, and nothing really else. I kind of just want to know if I can really fix this. I used to be nervous with girls, one-on-one, but I've fixed a lot of that with cold-approach, getting girlfriends, dating. Now one-on-one with girls, or hanging out with a guy im usually fine for the most part. Really its just in a group of 2 or more. My aunt was coming over, and I just took a lot of hurt from her in the past. And the whole week before she was coming to my house I did all these things to try and get myself to be okay to talk to her, but the day she arrived, I choked up again .. but for the first 3 minutes it was very obvious and uncomfortable, but after 3 minutes I was completely fine, wanting to talk to her, talking perfectly well in a group. So often its just those 3 minutes in the beginning. I know cold-approach isn't enough to be honest to fix this (I think) .. because in cold-approach, Im only talking to one person at a time usually, and my social anxiety is situational with usually groups of 2 or more. But then again with cold-approach, I usually have short conversations, Im not that social to be honest, Im pretty inconsistent, rarely talk to groups, etc. So maybe that will help. I also wanted to add that the past month, life's been pretty good. A month ago I had this BIG emotional release, and since then Ive been very peaceful in my mind, a whole month straight. Alert, happy, peaceful, meditative, productive .. but only by myself, in my house. To the main point of my post: I guess really the main point of my post is this: I want to commit today onwards to really making a shift in this area of my life. It's been years of just avoiding friends and family, both out of social anxiety, but also because I am very happy alone. But I cant keep this behavior up of avoiding people. What I want to know is, is this really possible to change? I know thats a weird question to ask. I mostly know that any change can be made in life. I know that people have cured all kinds of social anxieties. But for some reason, I have this thing I tell myself that my social anxiety is situational, that mines is mixed with OCD and trauma, that I have failed to change this a lot in the past and despite my efforts it only feels like it worsens .. I just really want to know, with honesty, if this is possible to change. And then if its possible, what can I do to fix it? I plan to socialize 4 to 5 times a week. (I have only met 1 friend in the past 4 months) .. Im planning to go to the gym 3x per week, join classes where I can be more social like hip hop classes and stuff, go to the gym, if I have the courage I'll try to join toastmasters. Ive joined toastmasters before and even gave speeches. I was pretty nervous but I did it, so I think I can do it again. Im 27 right now. I was a lot more social in college. I feel like I can get back to that. What else can I do for this unique situation based on your experience. Any and all replies would be greatly appreciated. @Leo Gura if you have any advice, based on your past struggles please share if you'd like.

@Leo Gura if Biden sticks to his guns on supporting israel no matter what, how bad do you think that would be for usa in terms of living in usa safety, or how much would that affect matters in usa: people getting along, security, etc. I'm guessing that's to be seen, and hard to say how people will respond. I live in US and Im wondering how this could affect us citizen lives, moreso with internal matters

Just wanted to say @Leo Gura, this post means a lot. I'm not the one to get in arguments with you and all that, but you've been literally my hero these past 8 years, and past few years I always had a fear before posting that "just don't get yelled at by someone you look up to a lot" .. but also even if your behaviors don't change immediately, the thought really does count, just knowing that you're trying is enough for me. What more can anyone expect? You're human too. Humans are messy by nature. I can't speak for others who have faced harsher replies, but I think we all know deep down you care a lot, more than you realize, about the actualized community, and the individuals. You take the time to individually reply to us, to look at our circumstances. To be truthful as best as you can, and pour your heart out in your videos. Nothing about this is easy. And lastly, I hope whatever deep suffering you're going through at the moment, is manageable and you're able to come out strong. I don't know what to make out of "deep suffering" but just that I, we, care and hope you're doing well.

That case became a pure mess for so many people .. ashton and mila, danny's sister, etc. Im surprised they stepped down from their organization just over those letters. They did so much good work for their organization but a small mistake in supporting an old friend made them take such a big hit. Quite the shit show .. hurts also cuz i was such a big fan of that 70s show lol

I was going to watch this episode to study the psychology of Elon, what made him successful, etc. And through that process you can see a subtle war between a biased person and an unbiased person. In this case Lex is biased because Elon is his good friend. They shared a picture of celebrating a birthday together even. Walter, on the other end of the spectrum writes biographies. In such a position you have to be unbiased, and purely observant. He doesn't care if Elon is "good" or "bad". He cares about the truth, what actually happened, what he is really like, his psychology, etc. (lets ignore the Ukraine story because that was a miscommunication, and a one-off item) Maybe walter has a slight bias, but the priority of observation and truth really shines. Lex's bias just makes it hard to listen. And btw I love Lex. But I noticed sometimes his bias, romantic poetic talks, niceness, gets in the way of realness. When I reflect in myself, I not only prioritize niceness, poetic talks, etc. but I also love it. Like talking poetic for example, makes life beautiful, but on the other end it distorts reality at times. I don't know how I feel about poetry tbh. Anyways .. back this convo .. What's interesting here is that even though Lex is telling the truth about Elon, the inherent bias affects the truth, it distorts it, it feels fake and hard to listen to at times. I haven't studied bias much, but seeing bias vs. non-bias in this contrast in a real world example really makes me see the importance of letting bias go. Of course if Lex let go of his bias, Elon would stop being friends with him lol .. and the lesson there is bias = survival. Drop the bias and it affects your survival On a final note .. The center of this conversation, Elon musk, love him or hate him, his life just seems so impossible yet its happening. A man who is kinda crazy, childish, etc. but builds very stable grounded companies. Someone who lacks higher consciousness ideal makes profound changes in humanity. I don't get it.

but are you saying good health then isn't in our control if its just all genetics? don't genetics only make up a pillar of good health, as there are many factors to good health?

I'll be honest, I'm a guy who usually goes for girls between like 19 to 22 but it's a much more different case when I'm in love. When I'm in love with a girl, it doesn't matter if she has acne, some fat, her age, nothing. I noticed I'll love her far more than any really pretty, young girl. This "expiring" thing you're talking about is when guys think about it sort of logically. But emotionally, when a guy falls for a girl, he falls for that girl, all his ideals get thrown out the window, and he loves her and will do anything for her and stay with her.

I've been laughing for the past 5 mins about this loll

fair point on the little girls thing. I don't know why I never thought of that. I guess its the same thing with our phones. We have such luxury because of the cruel conditions in 3rd world countries. Tough pill to swallow ngl. But thats very inspirational. That would give the life purpose course a new meaning. Glad you're here to stay, looking forward to the next 20+ years wherever it leads.

That's far from the truth. I'm always checking for new videos, been looking forward to the courses and all that. But I think people are starting to feel the pain that you're experiencing from doing actualized.org I was in an ethics class and my professor gave an example of a utopian city where everyone's happy, but for that to happen, a little girl has to be in the dungeon. In utopian ethics, yes it would be fine, because the majority benefit. But on a more evolved ethics perspective, no one would want the little girl to suffer. But if you're saying, you as the little girl would want this, then I guess that makes things good. I guess we just feel the pain of your suffering.

Then why aren't you quitting actualized.org? I don't mean it in a bad way. Im wondering if all this is the case, why still run it?

The only man-hating I've ever really come across, which I also noticed is a little, is from women who have had a constant stream of actual bad experiences with men, usually really pretty girls

@Leo Gura Your even more recent post about your health got me pretty worried man. I'm not trying to intrude on your personal issues, but is everything okay? Isn't there always room to improve health? maybe if you took a very deep break from actualized.org, the forum, etc. and tried new avenues (maybe going surfing for a few months somewhere, idk) you'll gain new perspective? Even if you don't post anything ever again, you've by far done a great service to humanity, for the centuries to come. I hope you'll prioritize your health far more than actualized now.