Jayson G
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@Leo Gura I dont know why i got the impression that you're always in your apartment lol but glad you're doing such things
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@Leo Gura So at the end of the day, not really much different from everyone else, except lower conscious than the average lower conscious people in society. Even then trump and the heritage foundation, not bad people, but just deeply lost in selfishness and fantasy
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@Leo Gura Oh wow so its not that the heritage foundation influences the trump administration, its more like that they are deeply intertwined. I didnt realize these people from the heritage foundation are pulled directly into government. So then isn't the heritage foundation just a part of the trump administration then technically or informally? Also this is interesting to me because I have this christian family Ive been friends with since childhood. Great family. Caring, etc. But some months ago he called me saying how trump needs to be president, all these new genders are messing up the country, etc. etc. .. I know theyre not bad people, I just think theyre just not seeing things clearly, like muddy glasses biased by their religion. What Im having trouble with seeing right now is, are christians bad people or just very biased? Maybe its this whole project 2025 thats got me a bit angry recently, but tbh I think most christians are good, and some are extremists that turn it into a cult and stomp on your rights. Is christianity a cult or is it mostly a normal belief system that some turn into a cult? It is crazy though how much christianity is intertwined with our culture. Like I love christmas lol but only past few years am I realizing how connected it is to religion maybe.
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@Emerald From what I read, that's what I understand as well. I also found out later through research how all these people are connected to Trump. But as you say, they fund the campaigns, Im still not sure exactly how much influence it has on Trump. But if they fund the campaigns, Im sure its a good amount of influence. Appreciate the info
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I was in philli today doing game from jersey, and I came across this block that reads: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution 15 December 1791 I took a picture because I found it so ironic how far we are from the wisdom and intelligence that went into the first amendment that built this country, and how it could get far worse with trump. The irony.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Defeat_Project_2025/comments/1ddich3/here_is_a_bullet_point_breakdown_of_project_2025/ This pdf provides a bullet point overview of each chapter in the 900 page pdf Also wtf is it really saying it will eliminate the dept of homeland security and replace it? @Leo Gura Im still not getting how this is connected to trump though? it seems the "heritage organization" wrote this, not the trump admin?
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@Leo Gura I think im getting some higher level understanding: Deregulation -> increased corruption allowing banks and corporations to do what they want to do at others expense -> chaos -> uncertainty in a bad way? also authoritarian state -> selfish agenda -> hurting the lives of many
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@Leo Gura also if you could expand on some of these claims: "finally market collapse along the lines of 2008", "erosion of the entire government at all levels, chaos" .. what kind of chaos are we talking on a more us citizen life, or systems of america? and market collapse is a pretty bold claim, why would that happen?
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@Leo Gura I noticed a lot of smart, wise good people are trump supporters because they are ignorant of politics, and see some business advantages from Trump and turn a blind eye to all other bad stuff about trump.
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@Leo Gura Gotchya, I guess I just didn't want to feel that genetics is 100% of your success. Hearing that genetics is a very huge factor feels threatening, like I lack control. But I think I understand. It's just very important, but its not everything.
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@Leo Gura Isn't that undermining all the ways to improve your health, energy and productivity? a strong purpose, hard circumstances that drive you, your social environment, your diet, yoga, smoothies, getting your emotional state right, i mean all these are important factors right? could you possibly be overstating the importance of genetics? partly the reason why I bring all this up is because I'm about to throw myself in an environment where I have 5 to 6 hours of a job (remote, full-time) daily, 2 hours of business, on top of all my other 10+ daily personal development habits. I currently don't have that level of discipline, but every week I'm becoming more and more productive and disciplined and reaching heights that I didn't think I could. Do you think it's possible for me to maintain such a schedule while staying happy, and joyful relatively? Even owen and you have done incredible things productivity wise (I recall you said you worked 70 hour work weeks, and did 900 approaches a month once.) I do think genetics matters, but idk maybe 25% or something?
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@Leo Gura Lol I pretty much consume everything from you and not once do I recall you hinting at the actual action steps to do this 5x multiplier .. I guess that's what this course is. That's so mindblowing, yet hard to even believe that's possible or a thing, yet I still believe it sort of. One thing I can say for sure: I have consumed a godly amount of theory over the past 10 years, from everywhere, and less than .001% got actualized probably.
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Some woo-woo, some ineffective, some too vague and abstract, mostly lacking in practical step-by-step execution. The only book I found to have solid techniques is pscyho-cybernetics, though that book is somewhat boring. But solid stuff in there.
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@Leo Gura Wow I think I've been waiting for this for years! Really exciting stuff. In one of your videos, at the end you said you're working on a course that "puts all the self-help theory together" or "actualizes all the self-help theory", not exactly sure what you said, but I found that part so fascinating I started to think what could possibly do that, thought it was maybe abstract thinking. Actually now that I mention it, abstract thinking is different forms of visualization of the same thing, so I'm assuming that's a good part of this? If you're okay with sharing, what do you mean by "It will be a very powerful tool for you guys in your application of all the self-help theory"? And of course I sense I have some false notions of visualization, but my current thoughts are "action is 10x more important, so are habits", even I remember for example in your pickup series on youtube, you said 95%+ is just approaching, whereas your beliefs are like 4th important, or something? And how far does thinking really go? I'd imagine that changing things in your mind doesn't affect action much. I know I'm definitely wrong here, but it just feels like practically in day to day, you just take good effective flow-based action based on top teachings from different gurus. Of course, no need to answer this stuff. Regardless, I expect everything to be answered in the course. But man, your ability to cut past mainstream is just phenomenal. That's brave
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Jayson G replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@James123 Hey man, Ive been following this ever since you posted, and I just wanted to share. I truly hope your son's condition gets better. You're showing incredible strength right now, and so is your son. That's what it means to have human spirit. For some time maybe it'll help to think less existentially, and find more grounding. But of course, do what you feel is best. The storm passes. It always passes. I was in a very hard situation some years ago. The world felt like it was collapsing on me. But just take it one day at a time, and you'll get out. Leo's concept of requisite variety helped me at the time. Essentially, with any problem, you want to expand the possibility set for how you handle a given problem, big or small. This will mobilize you to take the best actions possible during this storm. Right now I think all that matters is being there for your son, present. Presence. Humans are very capable, and they push past obstacles, even your son will. -
Jayson G replied to Water by the River's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I wonder then, and referring also back to your past statements, how is that you're the only person in the history of humanity to access the deepest levels of consciousness? or is it possible, and I think this is the case, that there are people in the history of humanity, even up to thousands of years back, who have also accessed very supernatural levels of consciousness. And just like you accessed alien consciousness, maybe they accessed some other facet of consciousness that you haven't, or even alien consciousness. Also, you refer to alien consciousness a lot, but what is that? is it just how an alien would perceive reality, simply put? -
@Leo Gura oh wow, well thats new to hear, ill look into it
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@Leo Gura how is ukraine corrupt? isnt ukraine just doing its thing and russias taking over for their own selfish reasons? The president also seems like a mini chuchill trying to get his uk back lol .. I dont know too much about politics but this whole time I thought they are pretty evolved?
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Don't mind me, I'm just watching the show here, while I eat my 8-cheese layered, pizza with tomatoes, marinara sauce, and thinly sliced french fries. On a more meta note, this is slightly increasing my cravings, while I'm eating healthy these days, but its good training to resist the temptations.
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@Leo Gura I really appreciate this episode. The moment you released it a week ago, I was like yeah this is not for me. And I usually never say that with your episodes. Then today I was like let me just watch the first 4 minutes and last 4 minutes, because you usually talk about the courses you plan to launch and the future of actualized.org, and slowly I got sucked into watching the majority of the video, until I started deeply contemplating this for myself. Upon going deep into contemplation, I can't believe how utterly wrong I was about some things. It's almost gotten to the point where I'm feeling disgust, shock, etc. in my behavior, particularly my desperate chase for money over these years and just seeing the extent to which that has caused so much negative effects, or getting so lost in theory and philosophy without really gaining massive experience of life. Game-changing episode.
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I have a personal development community I'm growing, sort of like Leo's actualized community. I recently read The Game - Neil Strauss, and my mind was blown wide open. Now Owen's Tyler Durden Fight Club thing makes sense. I then started thinking about how all the pickup stuff shut down - mystery mostly, neil strauss gone, David DeAngelo gone, even people who don't admit that they were pretty good at game (Tim F., Tony Robbins, etc.) deny game to avoid a pickup community. But I can see the value in a pickup community, but combined with many other fields to form a holistic community. But it would be cool to target the pickup related people from a fight club angle. But I'm worried about attracting cult psychology (fight club) into the community that might toxify it, or incels or red pill or just rapey or disrespectful people towards women. I wanted to create sort of conscious pickup, as healthy as possible, but a sort of revival of The Game community that seems to be largely dead since RSD tanked. Are the dangers avoidable? What are some ways to prevent this danger? @Leo Gura you made it work without toxifying the community, and Im not nearly as conscious as you but Im able to spot and cut out BS posts and people from the community who toxify it. I dont want also a takedown of a holistic community just because there's a pickup angle that a group of people might want to destroy, like they did to RSD. Looking for some light to be shown on this. I'm excited to sort of revive game, based on the book The Game, but done in a conscious grown up way, but also Im worried about getting a bunch of toxic minded men in the community. Is it worth it? I also really wanna do this fight club imagery stuff (not in a cult way, but sort of an underground community way, but then again is that cultish? I don't know much about cults, but I know I've avoided cults of all kinds my life being open-minded with various perspectives.
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Okay that's a big shock to me, he doesnt seem like that at all, he seems well put together, his interviews he says solid things, a solid career, that's a surprise, but I havent looked that deep into his life @Leo Gura why the heck would he need all that validation when the whole world gave love to him all his life, thats so odd
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@Leo Gura any idea how a guy like tom cruise ended up in it? (which I think even ended up contributing to him losing his wife katie holmes)
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Jayson G replied to Jayson G's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thats what I had a feeling that it could be too, but Im also not sure. Im debating between a) it's me not facing what I should be to progress on the spiritual journey, or b) it's just some trauma that needs to be released and nothing particularly about spirituality. The problem is this stuff can be so vague and intangible, these unique experiences, that its hard to make sense of it. I'm def glad im taking a break though, and I know I'll return to spirituality, so regardless it might just auto-correct itself. -
I'll keep it really short. I've been meditating for about 10 years now. Over the past year though I've been very on off with meditation, because I decided to stop directly pursuing spirituality. Partly driven by bad psychedelic experiences, bad weed experiences, meditation going too deep I felt disoriented for months, having a weird episode of reality just twisting inside out sort of, but then all returning back to normal. I'm mostly normal now. Sometimes when I'm outside, like looking at the ocean, I get into this really deep spiritual type state. It's hard to describe. I'm still me though always. It does freak me out a bit, so I just have to move my body and not be still otherwise it goes too deep. Or for ex. if I meditate just 15 minutes, really deeply at night, when its completely silent, it goes so deep that it gets scary. What's odd though is that I remember a long period of 5+ years where I'd meditate and sure sometimes it went pretty deep, but just a deep peace or something. It was grounded. But now when I go deep, it feels like it goes deep in scary ways. It's hard to describe. I have some coping mechanisms. And I have some trauma associated with this, which is slowly going. But I'm making this post because just now the freakiest thing happened. I got back from enjoying my dad's birthday, laughing with family and eating and stuff, layed back against my bed, and had this insane emotional release, but it was so much that I couldn't control it, and it got uncomfortable at one point and stuff. Is any of this cause for concern? I'm mostly just letting phenomena arise and pass. How should I make sense of this? anyone experience anything related? Just looking for insight on this situation. I'm mostly not worried, because I feel I have recovered mostly. But I can still see that I'm much more sensitive now, spriritually, if that makes sense. Is there a way to make that sensitivity go? Because a lot of that seems to be going away, but a good amount seems that it will be there now because I've already done many years of spiritual work.