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@Leo Gura Thanks for addressing the recurring subscriptions. It is connected to my life purpose and I want to make sure that I am as conscious and as ethical as possible. I too dislike when companies like ClickFunnels make me go through 7 tricky hoops to cancel their absurdly expensive software. I will make my software easy to cancel and find other ways to make it conscious. My purpose for recurring subscriptions is just continuous cash flow for continuous expenses like employees, recurring development tech stacks, etc. Also looking forward to the videos on corruption and theft a lot. Corruption in particular would be a very useful video. One theme about corruption that keeps coming up for me as I keep noticing and letting go of corrupting behaviors in my life this past week is my connection to life, my authentic self, and honoring that as motivation to let go of corruption in my life.

@The Renaissance Man I'm actually referring to his latest blog post lol he gave a ton of examples there. But I felt that those examples are the pretty obvious ones. He referred to more subtle forms of theft, but I think Leo could have expanded on the more subtle forms of theft. I have also been very interested in examples for corruption lately as well. Past some days I have really been observing corruption and contemplation in my own life and realized just how important this topic is.

@Leo Gura Regarding Theft .. I have actually been thinking about theft, since you made some forum comments a few weeks ago. I'm starting to think that it's not just the AI companies stealing data. If one even generates an AI image with MidJourney or Dall-e and uses that for some purpose of any kind, that is a form of theft. My thinking is that it took stolen data to create that image. It's like that image was made with that data in a sense. Along those lines, it is possible that ordinary human creativity, which is most of the creativity within most of the products and services we see is a form of theft. James Cameron said Titanic was Romeo and Juliet on a boat. Aside from the obvious Titanic copy, he copied ideas from Romeo and Juliet. Now of course this form of theft is not bad in my opinion. I actually think this is a good form of theft. But it is theft. But then the question is, how does one even define theft. If theft is stealing what shouldn't be stolen, then that's a narrow form of theft. If theft is defined as taking an element outside of yourself that is not yours, that can be theft. But also interestingly, at one point you mentioned that nothing is yours. Everything is god's. We take credit for a product we built, even if it is completely original, when really it is god doing it. Maybe everything in our life is theft considering we like to say to a lot of things that "This is mine." "This is my mother." "This is my desk." I don't know about that last part lol I might be getting too ahead of myself. By the way, are all recurring subscriptions theft? If I decide to offer an app with a 10 dollar per month recurring subscription, but that app provides tremendous value to society, and I need to set that recurring subscription for continuous cash flow for the sustainability of the app's long-term development, I don't think that would be theft, would it?

@Leo Gura "At this point I will be happy if America still has a democracy in 4 years. I doubt it." .. what does that mean exactly though? dictatorship? a highly flawed democracy? collapse of government?

@Leo Gura It's not like I'm only on social media all day. But social media, from my understanding plays a big role in the election votes right and societal thinking? It's currently the most powerful form of media distribution and the influence on society's mind. I'm not talking about my own mind. I primarily get my information from books and high quality videos. I'm talking about the minds of mainstream society.

@Leo Gura I try not to let it affect my inner reality, but don't they represent a good portion of societal thinking and societal reality, sort of?

@Leo Gura do you know why everywhere I look on social media there is only support for Trump? Owen cook's comments, and even Eminem showed his support for Kamala harris and the whole internet is only talking about trump in Eminem's comments. I'm just trying to make sense of this.

@Leo Gura ah okay, in that case he is very similar to Yuval harari, but instead of being blinded by christianity, he is blinded by his national identity. He too is otherwise pretty wise. Actually I'm starting to see a pattern like this in quite a few places.

@Leo Gura I haven't looked into this one bit, but JP can't be that naive? I've seen some videos of his in the past, and some were pretty good.

@Raze but does he think the people of Israel faced a much greater suffering?

@Princess Arabia The older I get, the more I realize how different the female mind is from me. Almost like another type of human lol .. It's weird because over time, I did learn a lot about the female mind but I think its one thing to learn about the female mind from outside the female mind, and a whole other ball game to truly know the female mind from the inside.

My logical brain always tells me that most of this stuff is coincidence, but when I reflect these "coincidences" happen so frequently, it makes you wonder whether there's something more.

@Leo Gura from a spiral dynamics perspective, I think IDF and Israel has a lot of patriotism as a factor, or something in their propaganda that can turn even great thinkers blinded. I am thinking yuval noah harari, for example. It's surprising because on all fronts, he is a great thinker. He is even a historian beyond national identity, but when it comes to his national identity and his people of Israel, he thinks only his people are suffering in this war. I actually can not comprehend how powerful this national identity patriotism is. Yuval is actually brilliant in the sense that he is one of the few thinkers on AI that can look outside of AI to pull important insights into the future of AI. So he is a very good holistic thinker, and still his national identity completely blinded him on something so obvious. It's actually quite shocking. I also think IDF is luring people in with some aspect of patriotism in the whole country. One of my friends joined IDF, just a normal guy who is not radical in any way, and I can see it is mainly just to fight for his country, and that's it.

@fabger Dude you're still a kid, respectfully. Don't be so harsh on yourself. Your life just started.

Just looked into it, it's so good. This is an instant game-changer for any serious project you're working on.

@Genius100x you're doing great. That sounds great. Just hang in there. One step at a time, you just walk in the dark tunnel until you start to see the light at the end, just have to keep walking until you're out of the tunnel.

@Genius100x Hey man, I just read everything you posted on this thread. I understand exactly where you are coming from. I think you need to make this clear in your mind: Clearly your dreams and ambitions are greater than your suffering. I get your suffering is a lot right now, but your dreams and ambitions are greater. This is a clear sign that you need to commit to LIFE. It's very simple. It's hard to see this simple fact because you are in the "clouds" right now, but just see that if your dreams are big, you owe it to yourself, your future self, to find a way no matter what, do whatever it takes to reach that vision of yours. Feed your ambition, and cultivate that desire very strongly. I think for some time even consider consuming less philosophy as that is feeding your negative emotions, and focus on clear strategy and action. Maybe listen to Owen Cook. He will get you out of this emotional funk you are in, and get you to "fight and claw" out of this haze you're in. Then once you gain some control on your situation, you can perhaps return more to philosophy. Also realize you have many options right now. It doesn't seem like that, but you do have options. For example, perhaps you can go to an ashram in India by bus, and stay there, help out there, and they will provide food and shelter, until you can get a job, and then go from there. If you are worried about your family finding you, then choose an ashram in a remote location, grow a bigger beard or something. Start planning it out. Writing it out if you have to. My grandma and grandpa, in their late 70s and early 80s live in India, and they were daily abused by their son in many ways. They also felt hopeless, but then my aunt snuck them out of the house, and now they are thriving. They too didn't see hope, but they got out. When you're in the clouds, its hard to see hope, but there is a way out for you. I can already see it, you just need to muster the courage and escape. And even if you don't leave for some time, that's okay too. You can develop coping mechanisms. Start cultivating coping mechanisms if you choose to stay at home for some time. Coping mechanisms like: distraction with Netflix, meditation, opening the window and breathing some fresh air, a book to put you in a better headspace, pushups and situps to make you feel physically stronger, etc. You can do all this. The moment you start taking action in the right direction, you'll feel stronger, more capable, break out of your emotional haze more and more, and see new possibilities to fix your situation. Trust me, you will reach better horizons. I think you said you don't have habits in place? That you are just flowing. This is what needs to change. Trying to flow right now, is like letting your cirumstances control you. You need to take control of your life by cultivating the right habits. Build your foundations. Then you can add some flow in as well. Habits are critical, even small habits, and then keep building on that. When you have a solid foundation of habits over time, no one can take that away from you, not even an abusive family member, and you can use that foundation to ground you, to give you something worth fighting for as well. You don't just need just a better vision to pull you out, both a vision and a foundation of great habits can give you a lot of power.

@Leo Gura oh okay, I guess I was too focused on an individual creator's point-of-view to see that more important point of view. I definitely agree with that. At the same time though, that cat is way out of the bag for companies like OpenAI and such. From what I understand, companies like OpenAI are entertaining opt-in for certain groups of people like photo companies, news, and artists but if you're talking about the general taking of data, there's no stopping these big companies from being powerful like that unless government steps in. I also doubt government can do that much now too. Competition is fierce right now, within USA but also the AI race between countries.

@Leo Gura I can see it being a problem when it tries to replace the unique style of someone, or even represents someone's work, or impersonating someone, but I still don't get this: If an AI is creating unique output based on diverse training data, why does it matter if its opt-in or not? From the perspective I'm looking at, when I read a book at the library, and Im absorbing someone's hard work for me to build my neural network and operate on in life, that data is freely accessible to me. It's the same for me consuming online content for free for my personal neural network. I don't get why AI needs to have opted-in data whereas humans don't. (assuming the AI creates unique output and doesn't sought out to represent a particular person's work) Some part of me does say, well thats stealing data though, which makes my conclusion: The answer isn't so simple, where we can conclude that data needs to be strictly opted in, nor even data needs to be freely accessible. Perhaps its a case by case basis, or requires further exploration into the matter.

@Leo Gura Well sure, from the perspective of AI companies getting powerful in that manner, there definitely should be limits to that power simply because of how that power negatively affects society, but simply from the perspective of the fairness of training on other people's data, I don't think its a simple answer that its a problem. Honestly, I think its a complex answer of whether its fair or not. On one hand, it is a form of stealing. On the other hand, Im not so sure its a problem if AI outputs unique content.

@Leo Gura isnt that how human brains work though? We train on book data and from that we learn and operate in this world. Isn't it the same if content is used to train AI to learn and operate in the world? I can understand it being a problem if AI plagiarizes and spits it out as it was inputted, but if its just using that content for learning and training purposes so that it can create new content based on a deeper learning and understanding, is that that big of an issue?

Wish more people I know would vote for Kamala, unfortunately about 30% of my friends are trump supporters because of financial benefits. That's the world we're in right now.

@Buck Edwards I honestly don't know much about our country politics, nor Kamala, but I have dug into these abortion laws and Trump's policies and honestly its really a wtf scenario. Definitely voting for Kamala just because I dont want that mad man ruining the country and people's lives.

@Peo Great choice man, the challenge would be to keep it up long-term. Perhaps journal how you can make this change sustainable, and remind yourself why you're doing this every now and then.

@Marvelllious Don't listen to that guy. He's been making harmful clickbait videos like this for years. He's also overly pessimistic. I don't think he has a good family life from what I recall when I last saw his videos a while back.