Karmadhi

The thing is that cute girls have tons of guys hitting them up in real life and approaching them so if you come aggressive that will make you just another desperate guy for her. How do you differentiate yourself from all the guys flirting with her with the intention of fucking her?

Same for "Understanding Relativism Part 2". Really looking forward to that one if you ever plan to release it, the part 1 is arguably on my top 3 favorite and most profound videos you have.

Let me clarify this for you: There are MULTIPLE factors that if in HIGH amount will result in you getting girls. Looks are one of them :Good looks with shit game will allow to you get laid Game is another: Good game with shit looks with allow you to get laid ETC ETC for other things like money, high social status etc. Just like passing an exam there are many ways of doing it: You can be super smart, you can study hard, you can bribe the professor, you can cheat from someone's else paper etc etc. What you are saying is basically: "You need to study to pass an exam otherwise you will not. "Oh yeah? Well i know someone who did not study and passed because he is smart af". "How do you know he did not study?" ETC ETC: see how dumb this whole discussion is. If you have good looks then you do not have to do much unless you are socially restarted. If you do NOT have good looks then you have to learn game. If you have both of course it is a killer combination but 1 will be enough mostly. So see what you have and try to work with it.

@RendHeaven You have a very simple view of how attraction works for guys. Just like most bros and PUAS do. I personally know plenty of guys that would date an okay looking girl if her personality was great. The hot girl will just get guys wanting to fuck her, nothing more. The feminine girl will get guys wanting to be with her. That is what she wants, not just pump and dump.

@RendHeaven Well i also know average looking girls with feminine behavior that get more guys than almost all hotties. You are making it seem like guy=personality and girl=looks. There is some truth to that but it is not so binary. Personality and looks matter for both genders, the only question is how much. Personality matters for girls too and if you interact with enough girls you will easily see that sometimes the girls with most guys crushing on them are not the hottest ones always. A hot girl will just get guys wanting to pump and dump her which is not what she wants. A feminine girl will get guys crushing and wanting to be with her which is what she actually wants. Do not confuse good/cool girl with feminine girl. Feminine girl is pure feminine energy and that is insanely attractive just like pure masculine energy is attractive to girls.

@RendHeaven The best PUAs in the world still get rejected. Of course game can help you a lot but i am not talking if she finds you ok looking. If she finds you a 2/10 then i doubt game will help you, even if it does it is game at a level that 99 percent of people do not have. Russell Brand kind of game. There is nothing wrong with it, just talk to a lot of girls, at least half of them will find you at least ok/meh looking and you can get those with game. A few will find you legit attractive and with those you need basic game but those are a bit rare to count on. Same logic for everyone tbh, its all a numbers game

@RendHeaven And this does not happen for guys lol? A LOT of girls you like will not like you back simply due to physical reasons. Why do you think Leo and most PUAs promote to approach 20 girls per night? Because at least half of those will be blown up by you not being her type. If a girl finds you a 2/10 she will not date you regardless of what you do. These things happen to both genders tbh

This thread has some truth however there are a lot of things which you are ignoring like: 1. Most girls are unattractive due to pure laziness. If a girl takes care of herself properly she will be attractive enough. Worst case, she can do some surgery which these days has become totally normal and acceptable. 2. Guys also have subjective taste when it comes to girls, just because you are not attracted to her does not mean no one ever will. 3. Girl feminine behavior is the equivalent of confidence to a guy. It can make her HIGHLY attractive as long as she is not legit ugly in your eyes. Was the girl you were talking with highly feminine? The most successful girls i have ever seen in my life were not the hottest but the most feminine ones. 4. If a guy is legit ugly in the eyes of the girl he also has no chance with her. Game will work if you are okay or meh in her eyes but not if she sees you as a 2/10. That is why most guys talk to a lot of girls and then filter out those they have a chance with. 5. Most guys have very low, MUCH lower standards than most girls. An average girl is usually pickier than the average guy due to simple biology and therefore if she wants the average girl will get something. The ugly girl can do the things i listed above to become at least average. Now also guys can improve their attractive stuff but it usually involves changing the core of your personality compared to just being fit and pretty like girls do. I am in really good shape and am trying to become more funny and less logical and confident and it is unbelievably hard compared to just going to the gym and eating well. So do not worry about girls much. We all struggle in the end, some more some less who cares.

@Preety_India Assholes get more laid than good guys and that is a fact. No subjectivity here. You yourself have said you are attracted to players so nothing to be suprised here. Nobody likes to be abused but the same mechanics that create abuse are liked by girls (overly confidence, detachment, assertivness, dominance, going for what you want etc etc)

@Peter Miklis For the same reason you try to tell yourself you like salad when actually you crave pizza. Because salad is healthy for you. Good guys are healthy for the girl at the expense of being less "exciting" just like salad is healthier for you but less exciting than pizza is. You crave excitement and not healthy and you know that so you try to rationalize it away. A better response would be: I know i am attracted to something that is bad for me but it is what it is. No one is blaming people for liking what they like, you cannot control what you like. Just be honest about it. By good guy i mean a self actualized conscious kind person not a nice guy with a hidden selfish agenda.

@Peter Miklis Issue with girls is that they do shit based on their feelings and then say "i do it based on logic". It is hilarious tbh. When it comes to dating it is at their fullest. "I want a good guy": Logic talk. Goes for the fun good looking asshole: Emotional talk. Guess who wins. The emotional side for sure. Just be honest with yourself, no one is judging you if you do shit based on your feelings lol

@At awe Being nice has nothing to do with understanding. Females treat the idea of having sex with a shitty personality but hot looks as something weak, immoral and wrong. Females are just as biased as guys are

@Loba Taking care of yourself is not gender exclusive though. Guys has to groom, workout, dress well, put perfume, cut his hair quite often, and all the other stuff. Now it is not as much as a girl but he for sure does plenty of it.

I have seen the material of most of male couches and some female coaches. I noticed that female coaches tend to make you more of a strong good guy while male dating coaches tend to make you more of a player (there are exceptions). If you are a begginner then you can learn from them because you do not know shit but i would avoid them unless you find 1 that REALLY REALLY resonates with you. From a conscious point of view female dating coaches are better because they make you care about the female agenda and feelings while most of male dating advice (not all of it) tends to focus more on pure results and cares less about the colleteral damage it causes.

@Loba How does that work?

I am quite curious to know what is the female's role in the dating process. It feels like all the logistics (planning date, time etc) and moves making (approach, asking out, flirting, going for kiss, sex etc) and sometimes paying (depends on culture) are done by the guy so what does the girl have to do? Or is her job to put make up to try to look as pretty as possible and that is it? I am geniounly curious to know from the other side. I swear this is not a sexist angry comment just desire to learn about things from the other side.

@Preety_India I said things are pretty equal in the end with each gender having advantages and disadvantages in certain domains. I do not see any need for gender war here.

Men have to be strong and provide and women have to take care of the children. All in the game yo. Taking care of kids and keeping them in your belly for 9 months then going through insane pain for each kid is no walk in the park either. Also women are valued a lot by society based on their looks compared to men. I would say females have an easier dating life if they want to but in general in life i think it is pretty equal. Outside dating, men have the edge in almost any area you can imagine. Also men tend to be more competitive and ambitious by nature so the burden of performance is actually seen as a challenge/conquest rather than a curse. Now there are certain countries and movements which are trying to make females have the edge in general but those are not that influential and do not affect legislation much. Even in Western Countries it is quite equal i would say unless the woman chooses to be a devil and use the "rape, assault" card to get something she wants. Example: my boss does not want to promote me because i am incompetent so i will call him sexist or said he tried to assault me. These situations are quite rare to be taken into account (at least i hope so)

Okay so i have noticed that basically almost all of dating advice (including Leo's advice) says that you should date multiple women on the same time, that you should not limit yourself to 1 girl until you become exclusie together (start a relationship/become bf:gf). However in reality i have noticed that basically all of my female friends have said during conversations that they would be very pissed, hurt, turned off if they found out the guy they are dating is also dating other girls. If you hide the fact from them (the girls you are dating) then you are partial lying (withholding information to suit your agenda), if you tell them the truth there is high chance they will stop talking to you, if you straight up lie to them well that is highly unethical imo, and if you manage to still keep them it means they are so needy and desperate for you that they are willing to step on their principles for you. This in turn will create a co dependent toxic relationship most likely. What do you people think about this? I have a strong feeling the women will agree with this (it suits their agenda of course) but their comments are always appreciated. And what about you guys +Leo, what do you think? Disclaimer: i am not talking about instagram super hot models with 500k followers and pornstar bodies. I am talking about cute/pretty smart kind girls (which get male attention but not 100 dick picks a day).

@Loving Radiance Well most relationships i know had no sex before they actually started, just kissing. So i am basing it in what i have heard from a lot of guys not just my own thoughts. Hook ups happen but it is usually with drunk girls that may regret it the next day.

@Leo Gura I am currently trying to cut down on wheat because it gives me some issues with migraine and also in general i think there are better substitutes. I wanted to know does eating rice give you these health issues after a long time? I noticed that Asians tend to be generally not fat and much healthier and their main carb source is rice. I cannot personally do a non carb diet and therefore i want to eat the healthiest carb source (aside bananas). I just use them as fuel and energy source while still eating the healthy fruits and veggies. (for example i am doing your smoothie recipe each day while also adding a bit of avocado in it, it tastes great, thank you for that!). What about things like lentils and beans? Do these create health problems down the road?

@Preety_India Okay i was referring like bad boy=asshole. If you are attracted to a guy that treats you with care, respect and honesty then why would you make a thread here apologizing for it and feeling bad about it? Why should you feel bad for liking to be treated like a decent human being. I would get it if you were attracted to people that treated you like shit just because they were fun and charming but you do not need to apologize to being attracted to someone that has tattoos, rides bikes and smokes weed.

You are not attracted to bad boys for what it seem. A bad boy would not be so kind to you at your lowest point, he would not give a single shit about you if he would not fuck you. You confuse the motorcycle smoking tattoo guy with the bad boy. Bad boy is the charming confident charismatic guy that does not give a single shit about you and uses you as a sex toy. The person you mentioned does not seem like this. Also those kind of nice guys you talk about are pieces of shit and you should not get attracted to them for your own good. Aim to get kind confident honest man, not nice guys. Nice guys can fuck you up badly too. The issue is that a lot of girls (not saying you) are not attracted to real. They are attracted to fun and charming. If you are attracted to real then you will never have issues with the opposite sex again because you know from the start what you are getting into.

@Leo Gura Honestly i would recommend you to shoot a very long detailed video talking about these dating stuff on purpose, tackling it from every pov ever so these gender wars can ease down. I am surprised how you have the nerve to still keep replying to the same comments (including mine, i am also guilty here).

@Derek White Kind caring sweet honest sexual submissive girly soft nurturing independent passionate intellectual fit and looks at you as a king. Just my taste