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@Preety_India Other women are doing fine do not worry about them. Focus on yourself! If you are happy then that is all that matters.

"The female species, such an enigma"- Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z

Pardon me but didn't you say you were in a happy relationship now with a good guy. Why are you frustrated? You do not have to give details of your personal life here of course but if it is about stuff from the past then honestly there is no reason to care so much about it. Especially if you did nothing wrong. We all have been hurt in the past, it is part of life. I challenge you to grow so much from anything that hurts you that in the future you will be thankful that it happened since it allowed you go grow so much.

@Verg0 Do not assume stuff for others please. I am in university (all online for now), i am part of a student organisation (all online for now), all bars and clubs are closed. Bars and restaurants are closed. Gyms are closed. It is winter and people do not go outside a lot. I also come from a country (not originally from this country just studying here) where people are VERY VERY cold normally. Talking on the street to them is not at all like it is in USA. I have met people from USA and they are COMPLETELY different. Much more open and outgoing. You cannot even do day game since people are scared of covid and all wear masks. When nightclubs and bars open again then you can that i am being lazy. If you have any suggestions for me then i would love to hear them.

@Leo Gura The thing is most people in the world cannot do offline game due to Covid. So they resort to online game. You yourself did this and when asked you said : "Covid killed pickup". Therefore the "you are lazy" argument will not work until this covid thing ends and life goes back to normal.

@Ghost @Striving for more Girls will not make you any happier in the end anyway, focus on the process. It is like wealth, useless in the grand scheme of things. As long as your basic needs for love and sex are met then you re halfway there

@Leo Gura In theory yes but the price to pay for that is too immense. Years and years of going out consently just for pussy is too high in my opinion. Unless you are a natural it ain't worth it. Boost yourself up to like an 8 and you are good to go. You did like 1.5 year of solid pick up lifestyle, 5000 approaches or something and still you said you are not even that good. How long would it have taken you to become that 10/10 you claim?

@Preety_India That is main thing. Online dating is like passive income. Real life is the actual job

@Leo Gura If you exchange value for value then an 8/10 guy can get a 7.5/10 girl, a 6/10 guy can boost himself to a 7.5 and get a 7/10 girl. @Striving for more Online game i was talking about. In real life you need serious game to date a 9/10 btw. Do not except to do 100 cold approaches and be all good, unless you are a natural you will need couple thousands to become good at it enough to attract 8-10/10s regularly. Also you do not need a super hot girl to be happy. Above 6/10 personality tends to matter A LOT more in the quality of the girl. At least in my opinion.

@Striving for more Decent looking is not enough if you use shitty pictures. Use high quality pictures that show you at your best, add some photoshop to make yourself pop more and you can easily add 1-2 points in looks. How do you think girls or models do it? Do not underestimate the power that photoshop and professional photography has on the way pictures portray someone. Also do not except to sleep with super hot girls anyway. I would say around 7-7.5/10 is where you will end up with. Yeah, if you look like a model then you can get away with shitty pictures. If you are not then either do not use online dating or do the things i wrote above. You do not even need professional pictures anymore honestly just a good phone camera and someone that KNOWS how to make you look nice. I have pictures where i look MUCH more attractive than i actually am thanks to good camera and angles.

@Leo Gura That is so fucked man. No wonder the blackpill and incels are rising so much if it is like this. I still think IF you are decent looking and with some effort you can get results in it but yeah you will not get a super hot girl. The good thing with online dating is that once you put in the work at first then you do not have to do much. I see it as passive income while approaching in real life would be like the actual "job".

@Leo Gura By personality i mean showing a cool lifestyle, your hobbies, social life etc.

@Forestluv Just get good pictures, if you can some photoshop and professional photographer and you should be at least decent looking. That is all you need. Professional pics and photoshop can bring you from a 6/10 to an 8/10 easily. Also keep in mind MOST tinder accounts SUCK DICK. It is the equivalent of those wasted creepy guys hitting on girls on clubs, yes they are competition but it is such bad competition it is not worth considering. At least half of Tinder accounts are not worth considering at all given how bad they are, at least where i live.

@Leo Gura I just thought she would not smash that easily in an not emotionally stimulated state. Of course she would pick the hottest guy but i assumed that personality mattered to, like how your pictures convey you and stuff. Most importantly i thought they would go out with you for coffee first (like a few of the girls there suggested) before fucking. I thought girls would not casually fuck a guy unless they were emotionally stimulated in the moment (girls do shit based on emotions). Those girls were acting like legit horny guys. What happened to "girls loose their value if they are perceived as sluts". Apparently that is not an issue anymore in these countries so slut shaming seems irrelevant.

@Recursoinominado Actually you look like that guy in the article so you do not need to do that stuff to get some action hahahahah. But i am not saying i will not talk to girls in person or anything like that. Just showed it since it surprised me and the views i had about women caring about personality mostly. I do not like the concept of cold approach though unless it is in a social setting like nightclub bar party festival etc. I am still in uni so i can still approach in class anyway.

@Preety_India I know that you can work around it, just found it interesting since i did not expect girls to do such stuff.

@RendHeaven This girl here has clearly been hurt in the past and now has created this reality where most men are bad selfish men and pick up is responsible for that. In reality pick up is used by shy weak men to become stronger. The asshole jerks that hurt women are usually not involved with pick up at all. Most of the audience in this forum falls into the shy nerd that cant get laid hence the shit load of posts regarding sexual frustration and pick up advice. I do not think a sociopath would use this forum.

I found this and it is very interesting. It seems a lot more similar to what Leo says regarding genders and it seems overall a very mature outlook. Would love to hear your comments, if you know this guy tell me what you think of him as a coach

Cannot wait for it honestly!!!!!!!!!!

@Leo Gura What is wrong with real estate? If you have the money for it, it can be quite nice and bring you a lot of money. If you do it properly there is, there is risk involved with it. Not all business requires pure creation. Take a restaurant business for example. People can make a decent earning from it, yeah you will not be rich but if it goes well you can live quite decently. You need knowledge of how to run and maintain business but no real creation. Creation is a smaller part of business, it is not the WHOLE of business. I doubt all businesses that do well create and innovate all the time. So all of the businesses you ever made you were a creator? For all of them? If i am wrong correct me of course.

It will get you laid a lot if you know what you re doing. In online dating is 90 percent and even in person it can make quite a difference. However it is not a mandatory for her to find you good looking, average looking in her eyes is more than enough to fuck her IF you know what you re doing. I have failed with girls that found me attractive so they are not the end all be all. Game matters much more than looks as long as she does not find you legit unattractive. Intelligence is fucking useless for girls honestly. DO NOT listen to them saying they like smart guy and shit. Countless people including me and Leo are regarded as "smart" by most people and still struggles with girls. I would say being less intelligent helps since it makes you less stuck in your head, less logical and more spontaneous and chilled. I am talking about getting laid here not for marriage.

@Leo Gura Can you do IPEC in Europe too or is it an USA only programm. When i checked it once it had live events that were held on the USA.

@Leo Gura Alright. Could you please answer: does this advice apply to all girls? What about shy serious cold kind of girls? There are some girls which are super open to serious deep conversations but its hard af to get them to be playful and do small talk. When i mean serious deep conversations i am not saying no humor or teasing at all. Just you guys talk about a specific topic rather than changing topics every 20 seconds with 0 meaning or substance like you do during small talk. Really curious about this, what do you think

@Leo Gura Spot on advice It just sucks that if you re a deep kind of person who likes deep conversations rather than small talk teasing bullshit you' re kinda fucked regard dating. Just curios, does this advice apply to all girls? What about shy serious cold kind of girls? There are some girls which are super open to serious deep conversations but its hard af to get them to be playful and do small talk. When i mean serious deep conversations i am not saying no humor or teasing at all. Just you guys talk about a specific topic rather than changing topics every 20 seconds with 0 meaning or substance like you do during small talk.

@Preety_India My only experience is all the stories my female friends tell me about how this guy is flirting with them and this guy here is approaching them and they just feel annoyed from having like 5 guys a month wanting to fuck them (mostly from social media, some in real life) Must suck being them yeah :'( I apologise for the sexist stuff i said though, the rest im pretty sure its bs