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@Loba How does that work?

I am quite curious to know what is the female's role in the dating process. It feels like all the logistics (planning date, time etc) and moves making (approach, asking out, flirting, going for kiss, sex etc) and sometimes paying (depends on culture) are done by the guy so what does the girl have to do? Or is her job to put make up to try to look as pretty as possible and that is it? I am geniounly curious to know from the other side. I swear this is not a sexist angry comment just desire to learn about things from the other side.

@Preety_India I said things are pretty equal in the end with each gender having advantages and disadvantages in certain domains. I do not see any need for gender war here.

Men have to be strong and provide and women have to take care of the children. All in the game yo. Taking care of kids and keeping them in your belly for 9 months then going through insane pain for each kid is no walk in the park either. Also women are valued a lot by society based on their looks compared to men. I would say females have an easier dating life if they want to but in general in life i think it is pretty equal. Outside dating, men have the edge in almost any area you can imagine. Also men tend to be more competitive and ambitious by nature so the burden of performance is actually seen as a challenge/conquest rather than a curse. Now there are certain countries and movements which are trying to make females have the edge in general but those are not that influential and do not affect legislation much. Even in Western Countries it is quite equal i would say unless the woman chooses to be a devil and use the "rape, assault" card to get something she wants. Example: my boss does not want to promote me because i am incompetent so i will call him sexist or said he tried to assault me. These situations are quite rare to be taken into account (at least i hope so)

Okay so i have noticed that basically almost all of dating advice (including Leo's advice) says that you should date multiple women on the same time, that you should not limit yourself to 1 girl until you become exclusie together (start a relationship/become bf:gf). However in reality i have noticed that basically all of my female friends have said during conversations that they would be very pissed, hurt, turned off if they found out the guy they are dating is also dating other girls. If you hide the fact from them (the girls you are dating) then you are partial lying (withholding information to suit your agenda), if you tell them the truth there is high chance they will stop talking to you, if you straight up lie to them well that is highly unethical imo, and if you manage to still keep them it means they are so needy and desperate for you that they are willing to step on their principles for you. This in turn will create a co dependent toxic relationship most likely. What do you people think about this? I have a strong feeling the women will agree with this (it suits their agenda of course) but their comments are always appreciated. And what about you guys +Leo, what do you think? Disclaimer: i am not talking about instagram super hot models with 500k followers and pornstar bodies. I am talking about cute/pretty smart kind girls (which get male attention but not 100 dick picks a day).

@Loving Radiance Well most relationships i know had no sex before they actually started, just kissing. So i am basing it in what i have heard from a lot of guys not just my own thoughts. Hook ups happen but it is usually with drunk girls that may regret it the next day.

@Leo Gura I am currently trying to cut down on wheat because it gives me some issues with migraine and also in general i think there are better substitutes. I wanted to know does eating rice give you these health issues after a long time? I noticed that Asians tend to be generally not fat and much healthier and their main carb source is rice. I cannot personally do a non carb diet and therefore i want to eat the healthiest carb source (aside bananas). I just use them as fuel and energy source while still eating the healthy fruits and veggies. (for example i am doing your smoothie recipe each day while also adding a bit of avocado in it, it tastes great, thank you for that!). What about things like lentils and beans? Do these create health problems down the road?

@Preety_India Okay i was referring like bad boy=asshole. If you are attracted to a guy that treats you with care, respect and honesty then why would you make a thread here apologizing for it and feeling bad about it? Why should you feel bad for liking to be treated like a decent human being. I would get it if you were attracted to people that treated you like shit just because they were fun and charming but you do not need to apologize to being attracted to someone that has tattoos, rides bikes and smokes weed.

You are not attracted to bad boys for what it seem. A bad boy would not be so kind to you at your lowest point, he would not give a single shit about you if he would not fuck you. You confuse the motorcycle smoking tattoo guy with the bad boy. Bad boy is the charming confident charismatic guy that does not give a single shit about you and uses you as a sex toy. The person you mentioned does not seem like this. Also those kind of nice guys you talk about are pieces of shit and you should not get attracted to them for your own good. Aim to get kind confident honest man, not nice guys. Nice guys can fuck you up badly too. The issue is that a lot of girls (not saying you) are not attracted to real. They are attracted to fun and charming. If you are attracted to real then you will never have issues with the opposite sex again because you know from the start what you are getting into.

@Leo Gura Honestly i would recommend you to shoot a very long detailed video talking about these dating stuff on purpose, tackling it from every pov ever so these gender wars can ease down. I am surprised how you have the nerve to still keep replying to the same comments (including mine, i am also guilty here).

@Derek White Kind caring sweet honest sexual submissive girly soft nurturing independent passionate intellectual fit and looks at you as a king. Just my taste

@Hardkill That is a one way ticket to get blocked by her, if she really is into you she will be hurt and think of you as a asshole player. I feel like this advice you are giving me works for very hot, very desired girls that have 20 simps texting them all the time. I am not talking about these girls , i am talking about pretty but not super hot/popular girls. Maybe you are right guys, idk honestly. I will just not talk about it and if they bring it up i will just brush it off and tell them how amazing and great they are (if it is manipulation then so be it). Once we sleep together or she wants to be with me or is really really into me then i might make her my only one. Problem solved.

Some do but personally that is a huge red flag and i would suggest you try to avoid such people, whether be girlfriends or friends. You do not need such toxic low conscious people in your life.

@Leo Gura I appreciate the long advice but there are a few things i should clarify. 1. I am 22 year old and therefore i will date girls 19-21 for the most part (with exceptions ofc). A 20 year old girl does not have the sexual experience and mindset of "only caring for a guy until i sleep with him". I know A LOT of girls that started to have legit feelings for a guy and got devastated when things didn't turn out well BEFORE she slept with him. A lot of girls will not even have sex before being in a relationship, to them kissing is the equivalent of "we are not friends maybe we should get exclusive". Keep in mind we are talking about european girls here, they are not as sexual and wild as american girls. I heavily agree with the idea of not getting too invested before she gets invested in you also. I did it in the past and it hurt like HELL after. 2. Of course you will not be a needy bitch but imagine you go on a few dates with a girl (before sex but maybe kissing) and she asks you whether you are dating anyone else. What are you supposed to say? If you choose not to reveal anything then she will just assume you are dating others and will get hurt and stuff like that. So my question is simply: How would you recommend me to handle such situations, where this stuff gets brought up.

@Gili Trawangan Multiple women for first and maybe second dates, even sex. But to grow close and develop feelings only 1girl.

I never said weak, just empathetic honest and kind. I do not support nice guy syndrome and being a wimp, but kindness honesty and empathy should be given more importance. And why are you calling me self biased? I said BOTH sexes should give more importance to kindness and empathy and honesty. The male equivalent is caring less about female looks once she reaches a certain threshold. The idea here is about thresholds. A girl that you think is a 2/10 of course will not do, just like a super weak simp will not do. Once a certain level of these things is reached, other things are given more importance. Just like once a certain level of income is reached other things like job satisfaction, inter personal relationships etc are given more importance than pure money. Nuance. I have made very self baised posts in the past but here i am really trying to be equally harsh on both sexes. What would be self biased is if i just focused on the females and ignored males which i clearly did not do. I addressed both of them.

@Preety_India I believe so too. Why would you say all dating coaches and advice including Leo support the idea?

Do you guys have advice for me to learn French? Currently i am taking 2 times per week french classes (5 hours in week total) also i am doing a bit of french in university. Currently i am doing B1 and would like to advance faster. What guidelines would you give me? Would highly appreciate it,

@Peter Miklis I was saying that most dating issues are self created and people tend to complain about them instead of understanding they are somewhat choosing to be in pain indirectly via improper dating choices. I think people should be very selective on who they choose to emotionally invest into and things like kindness, honesty, good communication and maturity should be very very important, just as important as looks (for girls) , charisma, confidence (for guys). If you ignore the quality aspects and pick people based purely on the more "sexy" aspects that are not correlated with healthy relationships then you have problems. Basically what i am saying is this: I will not date a person that is not mature, kind, honest and good communicator regardless of his other attributes. This mindset would do wonders. Personally i am not affected by this, i have never been hurt by a "hot but shitty personality" girl. I was just talking about the phenomena in general

@Preety_India I am not saying to have sex with someone that you have 0 connection with. Just find a good balance. No need for a guy to go for a 9/10 in looks when a 6/10 is more than enough for him look wise, then focus on personality. A 6/10 looks in a healthy relationship is better for you than a 9/10 with meh personality. Same logic for girls choosing guys guys but you replace pure looks with those stuff like charisma, charm, confidence etc. It is all about balance. So in your case date an introvert that makes a good boyfriend instead of dating the asshole extrovert, as long as you enjoy the introvert company and you are attracted to him. Of course the feeling will be less strong but the price you pay for that temporary emotional high is not worth it. Same logic for guys. I hope i am making myself clear

@Leo Gura Scary how women punish this stuff more than abuse and being treated like complete shit. Human nature is really scary and disgusting sometimes. Personally i have no more empathy for people that get hurt by the other gender (guys and girls alike) considering how fucked up, unhealthy and backwards the things they are attracted to are for today 's world. Everyone creating their own problems. Girls complaining they cannot get x guy when they have 10 nice kind guys at their fingertips but choose to ignore them because they are soft. Guys who can easily be with kind caring but average looking girls but instead focus on getting hot girls even though those specific girls might have bitchy spoiled attitudes. I personally think sweet kindness and being caring in a girl is VERY attractive and also healthy for you but most guys do not think like this, they mostly want looks, kindness comes second. Same with girls, what they are attracted to is the opposite of what is healthy and ends up destroying them in the end, just like junk food or heroin does. I think it would be nice if people tried to focus more on the healthy side of attraction rather than just going for pure emotions and pleasure. Yes those people may be less appealing but you can have a healthy good relationship with them. People that eat salads instead of burgers do not get the same taste hedonistic satisfaction but in the long run they are much better off and happier. Same logic here. Am i asking for too much here?

@Leo Gura As a beginner you can also talk to normal girls. Hot girls are intimidating as fuck at first so you can practice talking to normal girls which the streets are good for. Drop your ego while practicing and learning. You can even date and fuck normal looking girls if you are a noob.

@Roy Why are you being so harsh with him though? His question made logical sense to ask

I might be wrong but it is because normally sex=pregnancy=kid. So if a girl has sex very fast it means that she would possibly become a mother and the father might not be a good fit to take care of the family =they die. Imagine if you can only buy 1 car all your life, you would not be very willing to buy one fast, it would take a long time for you to get convinced. Guys can buy 1 car every day so they give little shits about the car itself. This is just nature stuff, of course there are exceptions and stuff, just the general logic is like this and it makes sense.

So i found this article and i was like wtf. Apparently "women need to be turned on and all they care about is emotional stimulation and confidence and stuff". Well apparently girls are as willing to randomly fuck as guys are, no need to slowly turn them on. There is a catch: you have to be good looking. I did not know girls cared about looks at the point where they would randomly fuck a stranger just from looks. I thought only guys were like that. Oh well! https://www.boredpanda.com/social-experiment-guy-created-fake-tinder-profile-hot-model-pictures-germanlifter/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic