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Teaching men how to be better at attracting girls, teaching this stuff in school and making men less wimps and more masculine (healthy masculinity). Also not demonizing the concept of pick up (as long as it is done consciously). Then when it comes to online dating which is very popular these days, there you can easily regulate it. These days thanks to SJW you cannot even tell girls that attraction between men and females is assymetrical. They will call you sexist and dismiss anything you say. Try showing Leo's attraction videos to modern western females, most of them will dispute him. His video on "How to make a man fall in love with you" has like a 30% dislike (the highest out of all of Leo's videos i have seen). Education on the matter is key.

I am not physically ugly, so it is not about a girl finding you ugly. But where i currently live my look type (dark skin, dark features kinda middle eastern/south european look) is not very desired and popular. Therefore i am not the first choice of most girls. Can i still attract them in this case?

@Peter Miklis That is what i advised people to do, have some wisdom on who they decide to sleep with. Of course people do not like to do that, so my comment was conveniently ignored

@Peter Miklis It is not ethical behavior for sure. Just because you can do something does not mean it is ethical to do.

@Preety_India Both genders have messed up people that will toy with emotions of others and break their hearts. This is not a gender thing. What both guys and girls should do is try to scan these kind of people and avoid them as much as possible. Big fatty juicy burgers are irresistible, does not mean you should eat them. Have some wisdom regarding who you sleep with. Just like you have wisdom regarding what you put in your body. Sometimes the best things for you are not very obvious from a pure hedonistic point of view, like plain salad for example. Nuance. And btw this is not a gender thing, both genders fall prey to this. This advice works on everyone

I have noticed that when you become more loving as a person, loving in a less conditional way then it becomes easier for you to develop deep intimacy with people and strong connections. Of course with some people you might not vibe much but it tends to be reduced as you become more loving. What most people do is that they confuse attraction with love which are different things. Attraction is just pure "make you feel good" chemicals in your brain that make you feel certain good emotions. Not much different from a drug. Love however is something completely different, something deeper that is very beautiful and pure. Most people have such a limited version of love that they need strong attraction in the first place for that love to develop and often it is still not pure love, just selfish love. Pure love is loving with freedom, without needing it like a drug. Hard to explain but i hope you get what i mean. Most people confuse attraction with love and i think that the two should be really distinguished if you want to maximize your well being in life.

@ertopolice Funny how you complain that guys there only care about looks when you say explicitly that they are below average looks. So you are both judging by looks and when they do it is is a bad thing. A bit hypocritical. If online dating does not work then go to bars and clubs. Simple. You do not need to approach so no fear to go there.

I think you caught Leo in a contradiction that is why he avoiding answering it

@ertopolice They have done experiments on Tinder where they legit take a woman without any pictures or bio and it still gets more likes than plenty of guys. Tinder is crazy easy for girls because guys have no standards and like everything. Plus plenty of cool guys use it so do not be judgmental about it. If you are worried about getting pumped and dumped then just select guys with pictures where they look nice and cute, not fuck boy type pictures. I do not know what you look like but honestly even as a below average looking girl you can get matches easily.

@ertopolice You re a girl.... Just get Tinder and enjoy your 50 matches a day, no need to approach or even go out. @Byun Sean That is called the friendzone

hahahahahahhahahahahaha If there are places to meet girls that are not loud clubs where they are all drunk and cannot show their personality at all due to being drunk then i would be very open to hear suggestions. Talking to girls in clubs to me is not fun at all.

@Peter Miklis I want to maximize my success, i do not want to have 1/200 girls like me. Optimization.

@JJfromSwitzerland I want to be realistic though.

I mean just do what you want. Each body is different, some response to no fap better than others. I think it should be treated like when you experiment with diet for example, try different things until you find what is best for you. For some daily fap is best, for some couple times per week, for some once a week, for others almost never. Personally i got super depressed when i completely removed it for 4 months so saying "you should never fap" is absurd and does not apply for everyone. There are also people that can do it without much issue so for them it might be a good idea. Different people, different sex drives. This normativity about fapping is quite annoying to be honest.

@Leo Gura It would be amaizing if you could release your "How to get laid videos", it has been like 4 months now since you promised us them. At least the first one which you said is already recorded. I feel like once those are out the amount of bs on this sub forum (including my own bs) will be reduced dramatically.

No fap can be amazing with a lot of benefits however it is not for everyone. As a virgin, when i tried doing it for over 140 days it caused heavy withdrawn symptoms and downright made me depressed. There were some benefits in terms of more energy but the toll it had on my mental health was not worth it. The best thing to do is to try it for a few months and see for yourself if it is worth it or not. I know people who did it and had amazing benefits. Personally i found jerking off once every 3-4 days to be the best thing me. Overdoing masturbation just like almost anything in life can be harmful and should be avoided. That is really a no brainier.

A lot of things in life are just ego. No need to pick the gym only as a "its just ego" case.

@Leo Gura That is making the heavy assumption that you are meeting them through cold approach. Most people meet through common projects, organisations, work, school, social circle etc. The "you will attract but not close" logic does not work there. All the youtube channels only talk about cold approach and not how to get a girl in your school, social club,social circle, etc which would be much more relatable for those that do not really need to cold approach.

@RendHeaven What is untrue? Please explain

@sda "Real social dynamics". They have videos on youtube. Their theory is very good but their in fields are extremely gamey and flashey so unless you are a natural Stifler would not recommend to imitate them. Flashy game that sells and brings views but not optimal for most people. However their theory is very good so learn from that.

@Leo Gura Which RSD teacher would you recommend? I find Owen and Julien very obnoxious and do not resonate with them at all. I resonate a lot more with Todd, is he good if you ever gamed with him?

I used to personally be VERY VERY insecure about my looks. Now i am a lot better in that regard, if a girl rejected me because of how i look i would feel a bit hurt but overall i do not care about them that much anymore as soon as i am taking care of my appearance within my control. However, when i used to be very insecure i used to go to Youtube or google and write things like "do looks matter" or "how much do looks matter" and 95% of videos were about guys, not about girls. So guys are the insecure ones worrying and caring about their looks so much. Also i noticed often in Leo's attraction videos a lot of comments saying you need looks to get girls.Even Leo has said that he was very insecure about his looks before he started pick up. Blackpill is another example of people obsessing about looks. In the past men did not care about looks so much. They had the paradigm that if he was successful and cool he would get girls, looks were not that important in their minds. Why these days they have become so important FOR THEM. This is not about what attracts females, female attraction has not really changed on a fundamental level for thousands of years. What has changed is the perceived importance of what guys need to get girls. I feel that maybe online dating made looks to be perceived as more important since online dating is super popular these days and online dating is look focused. I am asking this mostly out of curiosity. Also, it really breaks my heart when i talk either online or in person with guys that have these beliefs that if they are not good looking they will struggle a lot with girls and i try to make them feel more hopeful. Thank you for your time

@SamC I did NOT say that females are NOT insecure about their looks in orange culture. They are and A LOT. What i meant is that why are guys insecure about LOOKS and not SUCCESS and money at the same extent. That is what i meant.

@Leo Gura I enjoy plenty of parts of Jordan Peterson content and your video analysis was really amazing. Thank you

@Peter Miklis I am not saying whether looks are important. I was talking about the perceived importance of looks in the general male population. Female attraction triggers have not really changed on thousands of years on a fundamental level. Tall and handsome was attractive before and it is now. Same for confidence humor etc. What has changed is the PERCEIVED importance of looks. Why this change in perceived importance of looks. Why were guys from 50 years ago not so worried about "i am not tall enough or my jaw is not defined enough" etc like they do these days. What has changed? That was my question in case i was not clear on my initial thread. PS: @SamC @Preety_Indiathanks everyone for your replies, the stage orange explanation makes sense for the most part. However i still do not understand why the materialism for guys is so looks focused. Knowing stage orange if would make more sense if guys would become more insecure about their status or financial wealth than they looks. It makes sense for stage orange society to have female insecure about their looks and guys insecure about their success, money, house, cars etc but i usually see more insecure guys about looks than anything else. Hmmmmmmm