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I noticed that this is never talked in actualized.org either forums nor videos (that i am aware of) and i was just curious what Leo+all of you think about this topic. So zodiac signs matching your personality and astrology in general. I know a lot of people, especially girls for some reason that tend to have some believes about your zodiac sign matching your personality often. Personally i do not have an opinion on the matter but would be curious to hear all of yours.

I have watched like 90 percent of his videos but do not remember hearing that. Anyone know name of video?

I suffer with this too and it is really a pain in the ass. A piece of advice i can give you is to look at it in terms of your needs getting met. Your needs are a priority and always will be. Not meeting your needs will not result in you being more "selfless". It will result in you being more manipulative and having hidden agendas in everything you do. Often these manipulative actions will be unconsciousness and will not even seem like that to you. There is a great book called "no more Mr nice guy" and even though it is more catered to males, it generally helps all people pleasers. Personally i noticed some things i did from reading that book and how fucked up and selfish they were. If you cannot get your needs met, then you may not become a "selfish" devil that goes for what they want, instead you will become a "subtle" but often even worse devil that tries to get what they want while being unaware of it and thinking they are some selfless saint. Now of course there is balance and nuance here. I am not saying to be an asshole or ruthless person in the traditional sense. Empathy and compassion are still needed. However what i think is even more important than those is integrity and pure kindness. Helping someone without giving a shit what they do, whether they are grateful or not. Becoming independent and self love are essential in reaching such a state. I feel like i kinda covered all of personal development and jumped through like 10 topics however i hope it gives you some insights. If you want more practical less woo-hoo tips they are: 1. Adopt paradigm that your needs come first most of the time (there are exceptions of course, nothing is absolute) and if your needs are not met it will result in you being even more selfish than before, it will just be unconscious selfishness most of the time. 2. Read no more Mr nice guy and contemplate on it.

@DaveB There is already a thread about this. It depends how you try and how bad your skills are when you start. I think most Incels have actually tried unlike what most people on this forum including Leo say but the amount of effort you need if your social skills are bad (and you re not very handsome) is insane for most average people to bear. This guy did 300, YES 300 approaches and got no results. Leo did 440 to get his first results. Imagine what kind of tenacity you need to do that amount and still keep moving forward. The average guy stands no chance, you need willpower of a god. Keep in mind most people will not need that amount of trying to get some results. This is the case for people with horrible social skills due to lack of lifelong experience. Which is why most incels stay incels. Also quality of the advice matters too. Some advice is better than others. RSD is amazing for inner game and general advice but their outer game strategy is kind of lacking in terms of how to handle objections, how to get the girl to come to your place, what to text etc. John Anthony Lifestyle seems to be the best regarding pure logistics and objection handling to maximize the chances of a girl to sleep with you.

@Peter Miklis Just watch Leo's videos on this topic, they are really good and no bullshit explanations. Do not trust girls about what attracts them because most are not aware of it.

@WaveInTheOcean I never ever said that guys get girls for no reason. That is a crazy straw men you made. I said guys should learn how to socialize and attract girls in a socially healthy way. Talking to girls in a mall and being called a creep by 95 percent of society for doing so is not a healthy way. Healthy way is to learn it through education system which not only does not teach this stuff, it actually makes it worse with all the bullshit "all genders are the same" stuff. This is not about me for fuck sake, stop making it personal. I ALREADY know how attraction works, i am talking about the millions that don't and feel hopeless. I used not to understand it at ALL and thought being nice and kind and handsome got you girls due to the bullshit media and popular opinions people have these days. Had to learn it through sheer experience and observation and would like if this shit was taught by society instead of having to read some RSD forum for it and then get demonized by most of society for being sexist. "He's not alluding to forcing women to have sex or something. That's quite a ridiculous strawman. He's seeing and pointing out to a MASSIVE societal issue, which is the unmet needs of a vast majority of men, and seeking to find healthy solutions. Not for himself, but on a societal scale". This is a response someone gave that perfectly explains what i meant with my thread.

@Emerald Amazing explanation. Thank you.

@Preety_India It is very true that both genders struggle in dating. Both genders face difficulties and suffer. Even pretty cool girls go through hard times so it is not that they have it easy. However there is 1 thing which i cannot wrap my head around, maybe you can help me. I have noticed that when guys struggle with dating it is usually that they cannot get ANYTHING, they have 0 girls interested in them. Meanwhile girls when they struggle it is because they cannot get that 1 VERY high value guy they want and even though they have A LOT of cool guys they can get, they are not happy with them. They only want THAT 1 SPECIFIC guy. From my male biased mind it seems like guys complain that they are starving and have no food while girls complain that they have food but they want that great lasagna, only that will do it for them. Thing is most of the guys the girls can get are pretty decent guys, they are not lame or shitty guys but they are not safisfied with them. They only want that specific guy. That guy sometimes is not even thattt great, it is just the idea that i want X and dot mindset more than anyone else. Even though i might seem like an Incel from these threads i have interacted with legit hundreds of people through my life. I am very social and have a lot of friends from both genders, from all looks levels. I notice consistently that the guys that struggle with girls usually struggle to get ANYTHING while girls struggles are about getting a very high caliber or specific guy they might want. They usually have guys into them but do not want them. Very few guys i know are very picky with girls, usually they are very good looking guys or feminine guys. Masculine guys tend to fuck anything that moves but they will not commit hahahahahaha

@Emerald I stand corrected. The numbers i provided were for past year sexual activity. Therefore a non virgin that has not had sex in 2 years still counts in the 1/3 ratio. Pure virgin ratio is as you say it.

@WaveInTheOcean Please read my post properly before making it personal. @Peter Miklis Because in modern days that is the shit society pushes down your throat. What i was saying is for this shit to be debunked. I was stuck in the frame look for years, it fucking sucks. Many many guys i know were too. It would be okay if it was the actual truth but it is not reality.

@Emerald Ironically you women reward guys that see you as a conquest and trophy instead of seeing you as human beings. The most successful guys with girls are far from treating them with respect, they just see them as an ego validation trophy.

@Leo Gura It was more food for thought than anything else. I do not expect these things to actually be done in our lifetimes. However i do expect more awareness when it comes to what actually attracts men and females. The amount of disagreements you got on your "what women like in men" video showed how unconscious females are on what attracts them. I love stage green society but 1 thing which i do not like is how to completely destroys all polarities and treats female and male brains to be identical. I cannot even talk about stuff on "the way of the superior man" to most females i know because they will dismiss it as sexist stuff, "we are all the same, genders do not matter". Stage green is great and i prefer it over orange any day of the week, however this small technicality should be somewhat addressed. I do not think it is very unrealistic for males and females to know what they actually are attracted to. The rest i said like making RSD stuff "socially acceptable" wish washy wishful thinking which will not happen in god knows how long if ever.

@Leo Gura Now i understand how you feel like when people make ridiculous straw men out of the things you say that have nothing to do with what you actually meant or had in mind (rational wiki etc). Thank you for putting me on your shoes and feeling what you probably feel often when people completely misunderstand what you say.

Guys the point is not to give people free sex as freebies. That already happens through prostitution, you can pay some money and get sex. The point is teaching people how to become better with the opposite sex.

I am sure less incels out there would improve the agenda of women too. You can be social without being a pua selfish devil you know. I am sure you became a better man after learning about attraction and practicing and stuff. How do you know we are not talking to girls? Just because a thread is made about this issue does not mean no action is being taken. That is like saying because you make a thread about the inequality of the wealth distribution of capitalism it means you are a broke person that does not work. Not necessarily. I explained on thread that i am taking action and writing here what i noticed while taking action. It is like starting to work on a corporation and writing about how unequal the salaries of the different positions are, you writing this does not mean you are not working and trying to improve your position. I never ever said you get freebies without talking to girls. If you do not talk to girls you get no girls, period. I was talking about education not girl communism. I love how topics regarding politics and economy are all fair and good but when a topic regarding dating is brought up everyone automatically assumes that you cannot get girls and are looking for excuses. I do not see people comment on "economy and capitalism" topics that "you cannot get money and are looking for excuses". Seems a bit double standard to me.

Both tbh but no need for high quality relationships. This is a function of having it or not, not having it with a "high quality person". You cannot talk about eating chef level food when you are starving, plain bread makes you happy at that level of hunger. Same logic here.

@Preety_India Unfortunately most women are not as self-aware as you are. You cannot use members on this forum as the example of the typical person out there.

@Preety_India You are talking about it from Indian pov, i am talking about the western world. In the western world the biggest issue guys face is being too nice and treating girls like princesses. They treat you too well with the agenda of sleeping with you. The scale has went from too ruthless to too nice. The sweet spot is in the middle. Then why virgin rates have risen from 6-7% of adults to over 25% in just 10 years. Clearly technology has made socializing face to face less common. It is a side effect of it, a price we have to pay for all the benefits it gives us. Men should be taught what actually attracts women, not what women think they are attracted to. Everytime this topic is brought up a swarm of females debate on this issue and it goes no where. How about people become aware of what they actually like instead of sugar coating it to suit their ego? This goes for both sexes. The issue is that this misleads guys and makes them think that being nice and caring is what will get you girls. It will not and the most common thing that happens is a nice guy that learns through sheer experience to be a little more of a ruthless person. Leo went through it and many others did. Maybe teach guys what works from the start. Hollywood romance creates big issues and misinformation on this topic, leaving guys confused and unable to know how to hunt. Yes i am, i am trying to balance it as much as possible but my biases make it impossible to do that.

Online dating has transactions that reward you paying for it. It is simply a business, it does not care about people actually meeting and creating relationships. By regulation of online dating i mean remove all paying options so everyone gets an equal playing field. Either make it with a subscription for everyone or make it free with ads to give revenue. The firms that own the sites make billions, the paying options are pure stage orange greed, not business necessities for survival.

How are you feeling with your gut? Did the carnivore diet have any long last effects in the end?

Online dating has transactions that reward you paying for it. It is simply a business, it does not care about people actually meeting and creating relationships. By regulation of online dating i mean remove all paying options so everyone gets an equal playing field. Either make it with a subscription for everyone or make it free with ads to give revenue. The firms that own the sites make billions, the paying options are pure stage orange greed, not business necessities for survival.

@Roy Using a condom removes all the things you mentioned. I meant the outcome is very unequal. Being a billionaire can also make you depressed and create issues in your life.

@Preety_India You make amazing points however i did not say to regulate it in terms of girl's communism. I never ever support the idea of getting free stuff without putting work for it. I do not support free money because you are lazy to work. I meant structure education and society in a way that men are raised in a proper way. More emphasis on learning about attraction, human to human interaction and do not demonize the idea that talking to a girl you do not know is bad. Why you think 99.9% of guys are horrified to approach? Because of the way they have been conditioned by society that they are losers, desperate, weird etc if they talk to a stranger. Basically create mechanisms to make men more desirable to women, then women choose them by their own free will. By more desirable i do not mean to make them into asshole players, just a bit more grounded and social. Leo's videos on "What women like in men" and "Why women fall for assholes" should be required viewing. The fact that such honest videos piss off so many people is an issue.

@Leo Gura What can be done is for society not to demonize cold approach so much. It is hard for people to do it when 99% of society labels you a creepy weirdo for doing it. Imagine if learning new skills to get better job was demonized, how stupid would that be. I am not confusing being creepy and harassing with cold approach. Also online dating should either be banned or heavily regulated. There people that pay get advantages which is messed up. Personally i would vote to remove it completely but if kept at least to be made equal for everyone. Ads should be enough, no need to charge on top with boosts and shit like that. Greedy devils those firms are. Lastly, yes education is out there however we are not talking about special cases. We are talking about the average person. People that have some wisdom and are into self improvement are not the majority, those people are rarely angry incels. There are also plenty of free material on how to learn valuable skills and still people are stuck without jobs or do not know how to safe/invest. Plus unfortunately most of the advice out there regarding this stuff is either very pro make (red pill) or some PUA manipulative shit that will turn you into a ruthless fucking machine. Very few channels i found to be effective yet conscious and ethical. A society full of PUA devils is not much better than one full of angry incels tbh. So even if you decide to research this stuff on your own it will be very hard to find good healthy sources. Education and removal of stigma for learning this stuff would be the best solution imo. If society can make it seem normal to be obese "fat acceptance movement" then i doubt it will be very hard to make it seem normal for guys to learn this stuff.

@Lynnel 1. Sex is a human need. 2. Leo has called it a "sexual market" where people "exchange value". Not my words here. stop mentally masturbation to crazy social equality theories that would give you free money, go out and work. No need for unemployment benefits or for social security. Work and you have money for it. See how flawed the logic is. I am not talking about pussy communism here. I am talking about mainstream mechanics that would help guys get better with girls. Education should teach guys better regarding gender and sexuality. Also stop demonizing pick up. This is what the state can do, not give people free pussy out of thin air. I never said that. Just like when you leave the education system you have a basis level of mathematical and language skill, you should have a basis on socialization skills and how both genders think and operate. If online dating was heavily regulated especially regarding paid services or even better, banned all together. This alone would do big changes.