Karmadhi

I do not follow American politics much since I do not live there. But normally if a guy is openly a massive devil, then the only people that would vote for him are people that operate under the same level. Because they do not see it as devilry, since they are devils themselves. So it means half of Americans operate under the same level as Trump? Or is Trump devilry not as easily visible unless you are developed yourself enough to see it?

Why massive devils have a tendency to get in power? I have noticed it in general when I look at world leaders, both today and historically. Is it because of their charisma? If Trump is as bad as you make him, he is above the development level of most Americans.

They are not lol. If they were, then they would always win. It is crazy to me how much people are willing to not vote for policies that serve them.

Generally true. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Israel and parts of the US are exceptions to the rule.

Because rape is totally seen as horrible and not jusficible in our society and in basically all cultures. Those sexually frustrated men have morals, some basic ethics or are just scared of the consequences (revenge, jail, relatives killing them back) etc. Men that rape are either psychopathic or mentally unwell.

Often it is caused by sexual frustration. You are not a guy, so I do not think you can understand how it feels for a guy. I am not saying it is not a horrible thing, but I can totally see how an ultra sexually frustrated guy that is also either mentally ill or just cruel person can resort to it. What keeps men from rape is morals and conscience. Remove these and.. There are cases where rape is about control more than sex, I do not disagree. Both cases can happen

He has a point though.

But some cultures manage to put them in check and while others do not. That is what we are discussing with this thread. I gave examples of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, UAE (muslim states) where men should be equally craving sex but do not rape as much.

I thought the same at first, but then you see many very religious Muslim countries that do not have many rapes going on there. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Iran even Pakistan. Ironically Pakistanis do way more rapes when they are outside Pakistan in more liberal countries where they do not need to marry to have sex since there are a lot of liberal people there. So, it feels like either Islam tends to prevent rape between fellow Muslims.

Because USA is a continent. Europe is made out of many countries. So it is easier for Europe on an individual country level to be less divided since each country has much more autonomy than a US state, even if those European countries are part of the EU. The difference between US states is MUCH bigger than the difference between regions of an European country. Also as Leo said, excess capitalism is a factor. Lastly, except some Eastern European countries, religion plays a smaller role in Europe than it does in some of the US states. Therefore, it creates further friction.

@Hardkill It is not just in USA. We have it in Europe where i live, especially Western europe. You can see by the EU Parliament results, where far right parties gained a lot of votes. My theory is that in general stage green went strong and now we are seeing the ego backlash of blue/orange. Is it not a coincidence for example that after the first black president was elected, a historical achievment for the US, the next guy is a racist? It seems almost that the USA society had an egoic backlash to the progressive idea of a black president, resulting in the total opposite person being chosen. A white racist nationalist (Trump). In Europe we had very liberal green policies, especially related to mass immigration during the 2015 crisis and now we have the far right at our doorstep. Not to mention the LGBT stuff, another box of warms. We are currently seeing the battle between green and blue/orange. High taxation for rich vs low. Pro immigration vs against Pro LGBT vs family values. Secularism vs religion. Etc

Let me clarify. If someone uses religion, holy books, to justify policies, actions or outlooks, then you are fundamentalist. Also if international law is second to the laws of your holy books. I use it here more harshly because I expect higher from this forum. I would say you are also fundamentalist since you seem quite religious. Fundamentalist to me is basically a very religious person, not necessarily a bad person. Depends how they apply it. But if you would prioritize the Torah rules over international law then you are indeed fundamenalist. I see Israelis do it sometimes. Muslims too. Goes everywhere.

Is Israeli society still pro war at large or wants a ceasefire now? I see some narratives that they mostly want the war to continue except the families of the hostages and more liberal Isarelis. Another narrative is that basically Israel except Bibi and the far right want the war to end. How are things looking on the ground? https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-spokesman-says-hamas-cant-be-eliminated-will-remain-in-gaza-if-no-alternative/ I find it very interesting the inner conflicts within Israeli society about this war and Palestine at large. Not to mention the role Judaism should have in society. Actually when it comes to analysing Israeli society at large, it is easy for me the dropping my SJW usual self to a more curious understanding self. Because I see that not everyone is a far right fanatic there. For us living in Europe, these days that is the image shown of Israel. Bibi and Ben Gvir.

Did you? Is it good? I am watching the guy. I got some orange vibes, but did not see enough.

Is he legit? I saw his channel and half the videos are him shitting on Based Zeus. I got John Anthony vibes. You sure his stuff is good?

How many Israeli civilians have been killed in the West Bank by Palestinians in the last year? Because Western governments have a huge pro Israeli bias, for eg, they host war criminal Bibi in Congress. They tolerate Israeli crimes 100x more than Palestinian crimes. So if they recognize a Palestinian actor, it means they are legit. Issue is that Israel has been caught lying countless times, so they are not trustworthy actors. Its like a girl that has endless cases of cheating, telling you "Babe, I did not cheat". You will give her an insane benefit of a doubt. Hamas numbers have been verified in previous conflicts to be reasonable accurate according to the UN and other agencies, so I trust their numbers. Also I saw a lot of footage of that attack to show kids and men with civilian clothes, so i doubt most were Hamas.

Sorry but I did not understand it. You said they launch rockets towards Israel but as far as I know, it is Hamas that does so. Could you please elaborate? I doubt the UK would put an ambassador of the PLO in their country and recognize him if they were bad. I do not see Hamas have this treatment for example.

Yes he is softer than those 2, but that is a very low bar to hold. I have seen a lot of his interviews, both old and new and although he is very charismatic and has funny rants, I notice he is fundamentalist. Basically, he was pro annexing West Bank and in interviews gave arguments related to the Bible. That is enough to be labelled a fundamentalist. Also he keeps pushing for war against Iran and Hezbullah. Which is why I called him warmonger.

@Leo Gura By the way, are you back on Youtube?

I agree guys with you. Just wrote here what others told me.

I dont think most people care about democracy that much. They want a good economy, safety, no wars and no mass migration. Your average Trump supporter is willing to sacrifice some democracy if it means he will get the things above. That is why people vote Trump. Trust me, I do not like Trump but I have spoken with plenty of smart educated people that like Trump (not Americans even). They see in Trump someone that will end mass illegal migration, reduce inflation and living costs and end wars. That is what makes him popular. His policies appeal to your average Joe in the USA. They do not care if he appoints his friends or steals some funds as long as people get what they want. Truth is democracy and corruption are irrelevant to people as long as they get what they want. Which is why Qatar, UAE etc have tons of Americans and Europeans living in them even though they are half authoritarian. These things matter once you reach Green. Most Americans are not green. Hence they can be easily made to vote for you if you promise them what Trump does.

PLO seems moderate and willing to negotiate. They are not a terrorist organization and have ambassadors in Western countries. How many Israeli soldiers have went to jail for war crimes against Palestinians? In this war there are hundreds of incidents of war crimes reported. Not to mention endless cases of torture and rape in Israeli prisons. Lets not act like Israel holds their soldiers any more accountable than Palestine does. They also want to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Do not ignore that. Please stop sending that fundamentalist warmongering genocidal monster called Naftali Bennet. All he does is make Israeli society look bad and fundamentalist. Some of the other posts were quite nice, thank you for sharing them.

Why basically all of the world agrees that there are 2 genders. Male and women. Males have XY chromosomes and women have XX chromosomes. How did this line of thought win the entire world so well? I have not seen the whole world agreeing on anything, why this?

Why are you quoting me on this? Bobby is the one not agreeing to that. Depends what you mean developed. Economy, education, infrastructure, institutions etc it is indeed. I was talking strictly moral development of the current far right Israeli politicans and far right religious extremists. Do not make a strawman that we are saying "All Israelis are bad".

So the Israeli governement is not orange, which is the main topic of discussion here with Leo. Israel is ruled by the far right currently. There was this ex prime minister which you send, for example that denounced the incident is not in any position of power. I am not saying there are no orange or even Green Israelis. But the people in power are below Orange. I am comparing governments here. But endorsing and pushing for rape and torture of prisoners to me seems more like red behavior than Blue. So elements there are between Red and Blue, not pure Blue.