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@Leo Gura If i may ask, are there any benefits to being an introvert? In what ways do introverts excel in life and in survival? Our society has a huge extrovert bias to the point where being called an introvert is considered an insult by many. It is quite sad imo.

Bro this ain't math Also have you done the things i told you to improve your looks? The more of those you do, the better for you.

@Jacob Morres I think he goes for 8+ not just 10s. Still impressive. @itachi uchiha Before you call yourself a 5.5 tell me, have you done all you can to maximize your looks? What i mean by maximizing looks: -Getting in really good shape (around 12-14% body fat, broud shoulders and muscular in general, no need to be bodybuilder ofc but top 20 percent physique wise) -Good gromming and hair cut -If you wear glasses, wear a good model that suits you. If you look better without glasses then wear contacts if your eyes can handle them. - Good parfume, not cheap shit. -Good clothes that fit well (tailor fit if needed) and that match each other well. -Accessories if you are into that shit so stuff like bracelets, tattoos, sunglasses, watches etc ( this one is optional). -If you have pimples good skin care and diet, if not then skip this step. Bottom line, your skin should be clean af. -Good posture -Straight teeth (wear bracelets if needed) and if teeth are good then also whiten them. -If you are short maybe wear a sheet on your shoe to give yourself 1 inch. -Hair transplant in case of hair loss (optional since some people might look equally good or better when bald, it depends on your head shape). If good hair then skip this one. Before you do all these things do not complain here about looks. If you are a 5.5 AFTERRRR doing all of these then okay. They might seem like a lot but actually it barely takes any time. Arguably the gym will take more time than the rest combined so. Also girls do these and a lot more. Just putting make up takes at least 30 minutes and many girls have to do that shit multiple times a week.

If you cannot make jokes then i think you have bigger problems in life than not getting laid. There is a difference between having a sense of humour which most people have, even if it is somewhat repressed and being charismatic and funny in a sexual way. The latter is what i would consider to be "game", the first is more basic. It is like saying do not be obese or something lol. If you cannot make any jokes you will struggle a lot in life, even in your professional career. True but a "hot girl" is not just looks. The people i have in mind dated above average looking girls but they were not models or anything. Probably 6.5-7s. No reason a guy should not be happy with a 6.5-7/10 looking girl, especially if her personality and values are on point. Do not forget that if you flirt with a girl and get to know her, she will become more attractive to you assuming she matched your looks threashhold to begin with. Happened to me time and time again. An intitial 6 would turn me on more than an 8 once we started vibing and stuff. True. The people i was referring to were somewhat social but they were introverts. Social introverts

@Leo Gura Then how do non player intellectual guys end up with hot girls when they are not rich or high status? I know some of them. They just look nice and are chill. No overly emotional stimulation bs, just talk make some jokes and thats it. Little game in them.

I think it is fundamentally an ego backlash. If you have seen Leo's episode about it then you know what ego backlash is. When you tell people something bad their sense of self feels threatented and ofc the ego reacts in a defensive angry way. Most people are not even aware of this stuff so they just get angry on auto pilot. Someone like you might have done the self-work to be aware when an ego backlash is happening and can stop yourself in the moment. Most people have not and will just act on their emotions (caused by the ego backlash) on autopilot.

So i would like to try to go to a club by myself. I am young, around 23 and look maybe 20-21 (no facial hair). I have been told that usually in my city, bouncers will not let you in if you try to go by yourself. Now i do not know what i should try in order to get let in the night club by myself. A lot of PUAs and Leo also have gotten in into night clubs by themselves, i guess even in some really fancy ones. What tips would you give me to maximize the chances of being let in alone? If the bouncers ask me where is my company (people), what should i say? I assume going earlier (before the club is full), going totally sober and dressing fancy are ways to maximize it. Anything else?

There is nothing worse than seeing a girl taller than you and feeling like you cannot date her because most girls do not date guys shorter than them...

@Leo Gura Asians tend to like white guys for some reason. I am not even that white but i look caucasian and asian girls by far have the highest percentage of physical attraction towards me compared to other races. Type definetly matters but it is very subjective. I have heard all sorts of weird shit. A girl once mentioned how she was attracted to fingers in guys, another cared a lot about ears being cleaned inside (weird i know). Worrying about type is really silly imo. Just improve your appearnce and you re good to go.

@Leo Gura By unaware i meant they will say they want one thing but actually respond to another. Guys for example are very clear and open that they like hot girls, nice butt, nice tits etc. If asked they will all openlly admit it and they are relatively correct. If asked for personality most will say they also like a chill, sweet girl. So what they say and what they respond to is mostly aligned (there are exceptions ofc). Meanwhile if you ask girls they will not say they want a detached strong assertive guy. They will say they want a nice guy that will treat them like a princess (most often). Why this gap between what they say they want and what they actually respond to.

May i ask why girls are so unconscious and unaware about what they actually are attracted to compared to guys. Not saying all guys who exactly what they want but i tend to find it a lot more accurate than girls.

@Tangerinedream Heaven

@Leo Gura You always did one of these things or they re just other options? Especially for normal clubs, not elite level clubs. How do you open girls waiting in line or going in the club to let you join them?

Ok thanks guys. And if i try to go early will that increase my chances? So before there is a big line and stuff? @Chives99 I am from the balkans studying in western europe :).

It is quite messed up that a female can be high consciouss and very attractive to guys while for guys they need to make a compromise between being very attractive to girls and a high consciouss person. I almost fucked a girl recently (shit logistics) and i noticed how easier it was to actually make her get into me and fuck her if i gave 0 shits about her or her agenda. Scary stuff.

Hey, so i will make an online dating account and would be curious to know if someone here has experience about it and knows this stuff. Thank you for your time!

I need to clarify, i am talking about Tinder here. I use around 3 pictures of me and 1 with friends. The ones of me are with a professional camera and good quality. Is this enough?

I do not trust photofeeler. I got 9/10 ratings for my pics there and still my results sucked.

You re soo sweet and tolerant and nice, i wish more girls were like you. In my opinion if he does not text you to meet up it means he is not really interested. If you asked him out the first time it means he should ask you now. However do not properly ask him out, just text him and see what is going on with him. Reach out to him. If he is interested he will suggest for you guys to meet and then you can set up a date. Maybe find a reason to text him. That is how most girls operate, they just "randomly" fly into your orbit and give you a clear shot to propose a meeting. If you meet him again, try to touch him a bit and get close to him. Maybe suggest to sit in a couch or something idk. If he is receptive then it means he is interested. Some guys are shy to kiss girls first (me included until recently) so kissing the guy first is okay in my opinion. Not every guy is bold. Now if the concept of you kissing him turns you off then okay but if you are cool with it then go ahead. Just make sure he is into you before you do it. Flirt a lot and shit. Maybe he is playing hard to get or has read some bs dating advice from the internet and is playing games. You never know.

@Whitesnow Using statistics is silly for this. Looks are more of a threshhold thing than anything else. It does not matter how attractie you are once you reach that threashhold. So if a girl sees me as a 5/10 i can get her, if she sees me as a 9/10 i can get her. If she sees me as a 3/10 then i cannot get her. Simple as that. Girls have different types so if you talk to a lot some of them will see you as a 5/10 or higher. What is interesting is that the attractivness of the girl does not affect how she sees you. So if you are a normal looking guy, a hot girl can find you more handsome than an ugly girl. All can happen. Personally i would say 2/3 of the girls that have been into me were above average looking according to most of society standards. Some were legit more attractive than my physically. I still messed up those chances cuz my game totally sucked. Unless you look like a legit model looks will help you but you will need some level of game. Rule of thumb: The better looking you are, the less game you need. HOWEVER some game is ALWAYS needed. You cannot escape learning it. Just if you look nice you will need a lesser level of game. So a 8/10 will need okay game to do just as well as a 5/10 with great game. However the 5/10 can reach or even surpass the 8/10 if he works on his game.

@Leo Gura So can an introverted guy with a small circle of close friends match an extroverted girl with a lot of freinds and stuff? I am not talking about instagram models here. Assuming the guy is good in bed, has decent game and they also do things like travelling, varied dates etc.

@Leo Gura What if your lifestyle is fullfulling to you but not very fancy. So you have some cool friends, you travel a bit, live in a decent place etc but nothing crazy like doing a job where you get to travel super often or a job with high social status where you meet a lot of cool people etc. Are these things necessary if you have game?

@Leo Gura I plan to do it thursday, saturday and sunday afternoons and sometimes during the day wheneveri can. The ideal would be 10 girls per session totalling to around 30 a week. 120 a month. Will probably make some update threads on the couple of months. I am terrified and excicted at the same time haha.

@Leo Gura Thank you! Which places did you personally use ? Personally i am into parks and malls and maybe on wide boulevard type streets. Squares are good too, even though half the people are just tourists.

@Leo Gura No i want to get better with girls specifically. I already have friends and it is very easy for me to be likable and make friends but i want basically to get better with girls. I want to talk to a lot of new girls basically. Your advice "Go out and talk to girls", well that is basically what i want to do. However i want to do it in a way and manner that suits me and day game really suits me. Bars could also work but most girls my age do not really go to bars much and i often see them with big groups and stuff. In malls and parks it is more chill. So i will start with that first. Maybe i will also include bars eventually but as a start i want to try parks and malls.