Karmadhi

Practicing your sense of humour i see

@Antor8188 You are fine then. As long as a girl is your height or shorter then you can get her.

LOL this shit again... Of course heights matters, if someone saying it does not matter is just retarted. The thing is that it is not the only thing that matters even regarding purely physical appearance. Your face matters 10x more than your height. How tall are you if i may ask @Antor8188

How do you make it clear? I met her from someone and asked her to meet me. Nowhere was it obvious it was a date. It could have been a friendly meeting just as much. Maybe touch without kissing? Otherwise it seems as a friendly meeting to me. Depends also on girl i guess. This one was 25 so i assumed she expected a kiss if she bothered to go on a date with someone. I did what you told me and got ghosted after for being too passive in the past multiple times so yeah... Kissing for 10 seconds is not hard physically, it is a date not a friendly meeting. Pulling a girl and kissing her are totally different ball parks. Kissing aint much for most girls, just see how easy it is for a girl to kiss u on a club versus sleeping with you.

Bro please do not assume a 3 hour interaction based on that. I did joke about it, that is not the point. The point is she doesnt have as many options as u guys might wronglly assume and i have to clarify it.

I said that as proof that she did not have 20 guys orbiting her as you might have assumed. I said she is pretty but not hot. Maybe a 6.5/10. Also we had good chemistry, we had fun and she was into the stuff i am. She was also very fun and we had a ton of good laughs and shit. Pleasent person overall (if i dont count the dumb af games). She is cute but not as attractive as you might think. Keep in mind i have very low standards for what i find attractive.

This one does not, she barely knows people and is cute but not like a 8/10 or anything like that. Just cute/pretty but still normie girl. I should have clarified that. Most importantly she is new in town and does not know a lot of people. She legit complained to me during our date that her life here is still a bit boring and she does not know that many people. So the chances of me being outcompeted or replaced by someone else, at least until today are quite low. I think she just lost attraction or was not attracted to me but i managed to seduce her successfully during our date and when she went back into logical mode she had buyer's remorse or something.

Also not knowing what you did wrong. This makes you think about it over and over again and just you more and more attached. That is what i plan to do anyway. I wouldnt have time to go out with 3 girls at the same time though. Dating takes time, i have a busy life. 1 date a week is more than enough for me. Maybe 2 max . It is rigged against normal guys. Scumbags i know in real life have no issues with girls. But i do not want to get into that rant again here. Honestly man it is the only thing that keeps me going, this exact thought. Just like i foget how hard it was for me to make friends in the past because now it is almost effortless for me due to all the work i did on myself regarding socializing, being interesting, funny and developing a keen sense of social intelligence. I kinda take it for granted now Thank you for your motivational words Roy, appreciate it!

For the first 22 years of my life i did exactly that. You have no idea for well put the rest of my life is relative to relationships and dating. I workout, i meditate, i am learning a new language, i am doing a masters degree, i am read self development books, i have a wide circle of diverse and interesting friends, i learn new things about the world and i also love travelling. So tbh choosing to date is something i kind of forced myself to do because my skills were lacking rather than doing it because i had nothing to do. However once you go through the hole you get invested. Kind of like doing heroin even ifyour life is well put together, yes it will not consume you but will still affect your life somewhat. This girl was arguably a very very good fit for me, if it was the typical girl i would not care that much. I lost like 3 girls in a month like that and barely cared. You have no idea for much less detached i get from girls now relative to 2 years ago. Each "heartbreak" incrementally makes me more detached. The main reason i am upset outside of the girl being a high quality girl is the fact that i geniounly dont understand what i did so wrong, if i knew exactly what went wrong it would be a good closure.

The fact that Leo not only has dozens of 3 hour long videos for free on Youtube but also has a forumn where he personally answers dozens of questions every single day is something i personally really admire about him. No other Youtuber will do this for you to such an extent, they always charge for stuff. I remember the first time he gave an answer to a question of mine on a thread 1.5 years ago, i was legit blown away to the point where i had to click his profile to be sure it was actually him. Highly respect him for this alone. Personally, his videos have really changed my life. Made me MUCH less judgemental, much less obsessed with comparing myself with others (still am but WAY less), greatly improved my understanding of politics and society and arguably jumped me from the achiever to half-way pluralist on the 9 stages of ego development model. So yes big THANK YOU to you Leo!

For me it is much harder to find wings than to find girls that would be interested to date me. I tried that telegram group you sent but most of the people there want to do daygame and the group for my city (big capital city of europe) is kind of dead. Also most are quite older than me (im 23 they are like 28 or so). Is there any other source or website or forumn or group to find wings? Also is it worth daygaming with a wing or is it a solo activity?

Im getting tired honestly. No matter how much i try it is still a bit hard not to get emotionally invested AT ALL, especially if the girl is somewhat good fit for you (high quality girl as they say). I am a decent guy i dont geniounly think i deserve to be treated like garbage like this. If this keeps on i fear i will become one of those ruthless sociopathic puas (even though i dont really do pick up) that gives 0 shits about the girls and just cares about his agenda and has 0 empathy. My vision for what i want is the only thing that keeps me motivated to keep moving forward.

Yes well if she was flirting and still interested she would not make it crazy hard to meet me a second time like she currently is. The first time to meet her was so easy compared to the second time. I will still try with her until she explicitly rejects me because i got nothing to loose but i am not very optimistic. When a girl is interested to meet you she will meet you, as long as you are asking her to meet you. Simple as that. So yeah fuck her honestly.

I want to practice going outside my confort zone. I used to be really platonic in dates so i am trying to improve my escalation, touching and going for the kiss skills. These things push me outside my comfort zone.

I am all good with gaming in a place that fits my personality. Daygame works for me. A loud nightclub does not. I am a fish and i want to hunt in the sea not in a dessert. House parties also work great for me but going to them is quite random depending on social circle events, not very consistent. Bars could also work but i do not find a lot of girls my age there. Clubs i hate, at least the ones that are open right now. If i cannot talk to girls normally it is a no no for me. Keep in mind my standards for sex are VERY low compared to most guys, so i can find plenty of girls attractive enough to date every time im out on the streets doing my thing. My pickyness is usually when it comes to personality, not looks. I am generally bit feminine when it comes to this dating stuff which is why conventional dating advice is not 100 percent applicable for me. Once i went out with a girl and when i first saw her on the date i thought to myself: "Damn im not feeling it at all, im not attracted to her physically at all", then after talking and flirting a bit for 3 hours i got attracted to her enough to want to kiss her myself. I think this is how girls are regarding dating. The "I know within 5 seconds if i would sleep with her or not" thingy does not fully apply to me. Of course there are girls i am not attracted to at ALL no matter what but i would consider maybe 30-40 percent of girls "dating" material looks wise if i also liked their personality and we vibed well. Might seem weird but this is what i have learned about myself once i started talking to girls and trying to date them. I am still on the phase of learning how to get a consistent make out on the first date, closing on the first date is still bit advanced for me. At least with not super sexually liberated girls.

Normally true but this one seems a bit not that social because she is still new in town so i doubt her life is that busy yet. Good point for future girls though, thank you. Thank you I get dates from uni and being social in general. I do not do pickup, i really do not need it. If i ever do pick up it will be daygame, not a fan of nightgame tbh.

@Leo Gura I already did it on thursday evening, legit told her "lets hang out on the weekend". She said: "yeah lets see".

Just do daygame instead.

So i asked her if she could meet me during the weekend on thursday and she said "yes lets see". It is saturday night now and no sign from her. Should i remind her AGAIN if she can meet on sunday or should i just not text her?

Not the case at all

Do you even read what i wrote? I said i did your way and did not work. Simple as that.

The women's perspective in this topic is irrelevant. I listented to it for years, does not work Most guys here will agree with me on this.

Is rejection rate lower in daygame? Girls with actual boyfriends dont count.

Also keep in mind not every girl will be into your looks. There is nothing wrong with that per say. It is how life works. Talk to a lot of girls and some will find you at least okay looking. If you totally not her type, then yeah, you cannot attract her however if you talk to a lot of girls you will those that will be into your looks at least somewhat. It is a threashhold thing. You do not need them to find you legit handsome to attract them, "he is okay" is honestly all you need for them. And yes maximize your looks if you havent already. Good clothes, good gromming, skincare (if your skin has issues), GYM GYM GYM GYM etc are MUST for every man.

Why do this honestly, if you like him just go for it...