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However the country should still suffer the consequences of not respecting them. This would imply war crime trials for its current government and some military leaders. But can you explain to me from an Israeli point of view why that is not the case? I have seen endless footage of harassment, humiliation and even kids getting shot from police wanting to test their accuracy. Barbaric stuff. Just why? What did those poor people do to deserve that?

The fundamental issue with Israel as a state is that it is created and flourished at the expense of others. Everyone that values fairness and equality a lot will find the country itself built on problematic grounds and therefore will be a lot less sensitive to its suffering even if it is genuine. Combine this with the way Israel has treated Palestinians in general, INCLUDING THE WEST BANK WHERE THERE IS NO HAMAS, SO NO TERRORISTS We see now a rise in antisemitism all over the world, it is sad because most of the Jews outside Israel have no say it in. What I wish can happen after all this is that Israel will learn it is NOT above intentional law and start treated Palestinians, at least in the West Bank where they do not do terrorist attacks from, as equals. I do not think it is much to ask for. But please, everyone here that is Pro Israel or from Israel, why does Israeli treat Palestinians in the West Bank badly there? As far as I saw there is no Hamas there, why are not they treated as equals to Jews?

So you are admitting Israel is in the wrong in the way they are reacting and dealing with this.

Interesting how Israelis seem more fond of animals than of Palestinians kids. However I am not surprised since they famously said "Comparing Arabs to animals is an insult to the animals". The more I see how this war is going the more barbaric Israelis shows themselves to be. Just an hour ago they bombed a refugee camp which they declared a safe zone for people to go to and at least 50 confirmed dead. Fucking monsters.

Nakba -Google this. I know in Israeli it is not allowed to be mentioned because it clearly shows their atrocities. Kicking out people that lived there for centuries seems like expulsion to me. Rationalize it however you want. I am not saying no land in Israel is Jewish. But many territories were Palestinian. Your first PM had to get a palestinian visa to even enter. Let that sink in...

They are as trustworthy as the Russian media to be honest at this point...

The democracy your glorious PM was trying to undermine by rewritting the constitution and give himself more power?

Israel attacked decades ago, Hamas is just fighting back. Who put all the people there? They did oppress all of Palestine. Most land Israelis live is stolen from them. Israel basically is like a person stealing someone s house, putting all the members of the house in a small shitty cottage and when those people attack they massacre them by saying "we are just fighting back. Well if you did not steal their house they would not hit you. Fundamental issue is that Israel is built on stolen land and the old owners will not accept it.

@hundreth Then enjoy endless wars and bullshit. I do not even live there, this is for your own people s good. You realize Israel is close to becoming the most hated country in the world, toppling even Russia after what they been doing in Palestine. Instead of changing your image after endless persecution, you are just making yourself more hated than ever. Sad.

Hamas does not bomb for the sake of bombing either. Their attack is the response of Israeli s terrorism and oppression there. It is as meaningful as the bombings happening in Gaza right now. No difference. It is not out of the blue as you claim, it has a clear purpose and meaning behind it. It is not like those guys woke up one day and were like "lets kill some people for no reason today". Believing that is pure delusion.

The issue with Jews is that their religion basically says "We are people chosen by God and everyone else s purpose is to serve us". Hard to be popular with such arrogant entitlement. The people can be nice of course but the actual ideology is extremly arrogant, racist and entitled

@hundreth You relocated in a place that hates you guts and the only reason you exist there is because of war and terror. Dont you think you would be better off in a place where you would be welcomed? I am saying this for your own good. It does not seem fun to be surrounded by people that want to wipe you out. Arabs will never accept Israel, especially when their existance is at the expense of other Arabs. It is an endless cycle of bullshit. How easy can it be avoided by going somewhere where people actually want you. Too sad that the whole reason Israel is there is because US/UK wanted to destabilize the region and they used Israel to do so. There are videos of Biden saying openly in the 1980s "If there was no Israel, we would create one there".

The Jews in Israel should transfer and make their own country somewhere where they are actually wanted. There were dozens of proposed places to create a Jewish state and they chose it on the worst possible place. How about they go somewhere else, maybe in the USA since USA always supports them even when they do genocide? They do not seem very welcomed in the Middle East. It is an Arab Muslim area so why the hell would they even make it there? You can clearly see it is to destabilize the region, good job UK/USA. Food for thought. I am all up for Jews having their own state but there is 0 reason for the state to be where it currently is. It just fucks over the region endleslly But it appears that is what the West wants.

@zazen Exactly! Hamas and their barbarity is 1000% Israeli fault because of their ruthless policies in decades. Terrorists do not come out of thin air as Leo says. What Israel is doing in their current barbaric treatment of Palestinian civilians will cause another Hamas. Probably more ruthless. But they seem too stupid to understand this. They had a good chance to respond humanely to the brutal Hamas attack but they are hitting them back 10x harder. A big mistake.

@Leo Gura I feel like it is way more effective for Arab countries to cut all oil/gas to the west and israel than do proxy wars. It would force the west into talks considering they also ditched russia when it comes to energy supplies.

@Leo Gura Do you think Hesboullah or other groups or countries will join in the war? If they combine Israel will be in trouble. Also a possible oil/gas embargo from Arab world to the West, I saw Qatar was threatining it already (they are their biggest gas supplier since they cut ties with russia).

@Leo Gura They have been clashing already in Northen Gaza and it does not seem too bad for them. I do not know if Hamas is luring them into a trap or not but so far their losses do not seem that high. They seem confident. However if Hesboullah and company also attacks it would be a different story of course.

Why is Israel so heartless towards Gaza civilians? A highly developed country should not act like this... Their war ethics seem so 20th Century.

@Nivsch Why dont you guys give them back all the land you took during Nakba which was historically Palestine inhabited. Just give them the land that used to be historically inhabited by Palestinians and keep the land that was historically inhabited by Jews. Problem solved.

@Vrubel Their biggest weapon is an oil embargo which they did in the past. Also gas. Qatar is already threatening that. EU already cut out gas from Russia, combining it with Arab oil and gaz embargo and it will not look good for them. Arab countries together control like 40% of all oil reserves in the world. No need to fire bullets, this could prove more effective. But I am not saying they will. @Leo Gura What do you think?

Well calling out to turn Gaza into Dresden looks like a solution to you? Because that is what Israeli elected politicans tend to support. I am sure you and many Israelis are normal decent people but many are brainwashed and extremely racist.

@PurpleTree Beautiful. Much respect to the Jews in the USA. The fault does not lie on Jews as a general group as much as Israeli s right wing ultra nationalism which has brainwashed the people living there. I am sure most Jews living outside Israel are much more reasonable.

@Vrubel Actually we got kicked out and lost many territories. Which is why I am so sympathetic to Palestine cause. My origin is from a neighboring city which is now part of another country however 80% of their population is our nationals. My country is 110 years old.

@Vrubel Because I did not steal or kick out anyone. Where I live my people have lived for millenia. "The foundational events of the Nakba took place during and shortly after the 1948 Palestine war, including 78% of Mandatory Palestine being declared as Israel, the expulsion and flight of 700,000 Palestinians, the related depopulation and destruction of over 500 Palestinian villages by Zionist militias and later the Israeli army[9] and subsequent geographical erasure, the denial of the Palestinian right of return, the creation of permanent Palestinian refugees, and the "shattering of Palestinian society" We did not do such barbarity to anyone.

Go to the USA then, I am sure they have plenty of land and would love you there.