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@Leo Gura Do you think their government will be trialed for war crimes?

The moment Palestinian civilians get involved like they are, then anything Hamas does becomes obselete. Palestinian civilian lives should have priority over Hamas suffering. Those are the wars of law. Unfortunately Israel lacks the will to respect them.

There are international laws for war. If you break them you get punished It is that simple. Why is it hard to understand this? You respect the law, thats it. Everything else is rationalizations and delusions. Israel is clearly not respecting the law so they should be punished. You guys are like a murderer yelling why we should not murder. Because the fucking laws which you also signed say you cannot do that The end

He literally said that Russian soldiers are tricked by their leadership into fighting the war. You can say the same for Israelis about to invade Gaza.

It is a good video but in the one he made about Russia he said how Russians are tricked by their government and the war is basically wrong. I do not see him do it here, he had a neutral stance. How come he did not condemn Israel for stealing land, the same way Russians tried to take land in Ukraine? Is it not objective true that it is stolen land by Palestinians or are there historical facts I am missing?

Thing is Israel the first time it got attacked was this October and in total it has way less suffering that what Palestine went through if you take decades into account. So it is not equal. It is like saying Germans suffered during world war 2 but it cannot compare to the suffering Germany inflicted over civilians of other countries.

@Scholar Most Israelis are decent people, I said that above. But you cannot deny some countries are more racist than others. For example Belgium is less racist than China. Same logic here. It is not rocket science. I think Palestinias are probably more racist than Israelis and more hateful. However their hate is justified, Israelis is not. The oppressed has the right to hate the oppressor, not the other way around.

@Scholar I think it shows how openly racist Israel society is... At least parts of it. This would not fly in the west.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QihoBuGRVwU This is just disturbing... Can someone explain me how this is possible? Are these people evil or something?

Ben Gvir has shouted "Death to arabs" so he definetly is comparable. How can such monsters be in power is beyond me. I am sure most Israelis are decent people but sadly the monsters and radicals tend to get in power. Same happened to Nazi Germany for example. And Israeli do not face harships, they are first world country, rich, no war, no civilians dying. Overall good life there. So they have way way less reasons to be conservative and have such animals in government. Meanwhile considering how harsh life is in Gaza and the fact that Israeli is mainly responsible for it it makes perfect sense for animals like Hamas to be in power. I hope you can see that.

Dude you need to understand it is not the same. Israel has been priviledged and living like rich kings while Palestinians are treated like shit and live in poverty. You cannot expect Hamas to be as restrained as Israel because Israel has not suffered while Palestine (hence Hamas) has.

@Raze Thank you for sharing. This clearly shows their moral development of their army is not much higher than that of Russians but people here dont seem to fanthom that

@hundreth Israel zionism is not better. also their current government is equally cancer

Why only us liberals are crying about Palestine here in the West? I dont see conservatives care much

@Nivsch This is the fundamental problem here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ElWDKIzkdMM And this was before the terrorist attack on October. This guy is apparently a schoolar so not an uneducated moron, he holds the title "Doctor". And he is insulting ALL of them, not just radical terrorists like Hamas. He is insulting their entire race. As long as this attitude exists, the area will never find peace. I am not suprised if many elements in the Israeli Government or Military think like this.

Nobody is saying "Israel are all bad" or anything like that. But their current government is extremly racist and toxic and needs to change to a more green evolved government. Also there is a high degree of racism of many Israelis towards Palestine. Americans used to have the same attitude about blacks before the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s, it is not that before that they were all evil monsters or anything.

The historical 20-30x difference in casualties between Israel and Gaza shows otherwise. I dont give a shit about Hamas dying, I care about the Palestinian kids which are almost half of all dying. I care about the fact that 95% of those dying are civilains. If most dead would be Hamas terrorists I would not care at all about it. However if you think killing 50 civilians to kill 1 hamas is acceptable than I will not agree with you. To me Palestinian kids and Hamas are independent variables. I do not see 1 linked to the other. Kill Hamas but if you kill Palestinian civilian kids while doing it then you are wrong and deserve punishment. Palestinian civilian kids lives should have priority over Hamas soldiers deaths. To Israel they dont. Hence the liberal outrage including mine.

Google "Terror Bombing". That is what Israel is doing. It is a standard military strategy. Also their logic is this: "50 civilians dead for 1 hamas fighter dead is acceptable". It shows absolutely 0 regard for civilian lives which their right wing government sees as subhuman. Hitler and Stalin had similar mindsets. There is endless footage of Israel bombing convoys trying to leave killing hundreds. UN Staff says south of gaza is not much safer. UN is by far more trustworthy here than any other source since they are the most impartial. Correct, an invasion will be a disaster. You have endless footage of Israel carpet bombing Gaza.

Watch the article I sent from new york times above.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/world/middleeast/gaza-hospital-israel-hamas-video.html Research done by New York Times regarding the hospital issue. "Using satellite imagery to triangulate the launch point in those videos, The Times determined that the projectile was fired toward Gaza from near the Israeli town of Nahal Oz shortly before the deadly hospital blast. The findings match the conclusion reached by some online researchers"- Copy Pasted from the article. The fact that people here, even @Leo Gurawould trust Israel government (which has lied many times and has 0 integrity) over independent sources is scary to me. At this point after carpet bombing Gaza for weeks, is it still hard to imagine that the Israeli Army is morally capable for this? It is not like they have much empathy for Palestinian Civilians. Even a Western Source is putting heavy doubts in Israel. Let that sink in...

Yes but also Hamas soldiers are suicidal because they think they go to heaven if they die fighting Israel. They will not hesitate to fill themselves with dynamite and go behind a Israeli tank and blow it up. Such an enemy puts a lot of strain into the morale of a solider and unfortunately it results in them becoming reckless even if they are normally professional. Also Hamas soldiers are used to hardships because they grew up in a hell zone, Israeli soldiers are first world spoiled boys who never had any hardships in their lives. Combine this with hunderds of kilomiters of tunnels, very good knowledge of every street and a sea of rubble and it will not be fun for Israel. If civilians are in there then it will be even worse since Israel will have to show some sort of restraint which Hamas can utilize in their advantage. If civilians are evacuated it will be Iwo Jima 2.0, if not then Okinawa 10x. Of course Israel will win in the end but it will result in heavy casualities and the ones that survive will be traumatized for life (same way many US soldiers were after Vietnam). Lastly keep in mind Hesboullah can invade from the North and they are stronger than Hamas. So Israel cannot leave its flank open and will need to keep reserves there. They cannot put in Gaza all they got.

At this point the shit I have seen happening in Gaza looks more and more like WW2 shit. I thought developed countries had evolved past such barbarity but unfortunately there is much work to be done. The Israeli army is degrading into murderous insanity.

@Nivsch Precision drone strikes and give back Palestinians more rights and work towards equality.

@Vrubel That is why every UN impartial source says the war crimes happening there are out of control. Please stop with this biased bs

@Leo Gura If Israel wants to commit war crimes their leadership should go to court for war crimes like other countries have went. I dont see this happening. Do you?