Karmadhi

@Cireeric What if your authentic self is not charismatic, expressive, flirtatious and whatever the hell all these people promote?

@Shin I ve read that book. It is very good but i tend to be more on the kind sweet caring side than the strong ruthless side naturally. Maybe life's difficulties will make me more like that, who knows. I am quite young.

@Preety_India I know plenty of good guys that try to get girls and they get friendzoned or rejected. I never saw the ruthless heartless player get a " you re a great guy but lets be friends instead" kinda text from a girl. It is not a coincidence that when a guy acts like he doesnt give a shit about the girl he gets her compared to being good to her. Even Leo has confirmed this among thousands of good guys who were treated like shit while being good to girls. Again, why dont girls reject guys if they act assertive, dominant, cocky, arrogant and brash. Answer this please

@somegirl You do not ask the rabbit how to hunt rabbits, you ask the wolf that is successful at hunting rabbits

@Preety_India If that was the case than good guys would be drowining in pussy while assholes would be starving for sex. In reality it is the opposite. You as a female want guys to treat you well but the issue is that most females do NOT go for the guys that treat them well. They go for the guys that make them FEEL the way they want to. Being treated good and feeling good are independent variables. Girls do not reward self actualized guys nearly as much as they reward scumbags. Maybe personally you are different but usually girls tend to be like this, especially between 18-25 years old. You can easily tell if a guy is a jerk of kind in a few dates so if girls were so selective on his kindness then they would not have issues at all. How about you punish guys if they are arrogant, assertive, over the top, cocky and dickish. That would be a nice change.

@Leo Gura Could you please tell me the "struggles" women have to face which are equal to those that men have to face, since you locked my post. Putting make up does not count since that is a choice and a good way for women to cheat their looks while men cant. Men also have to take care of themselves like going to gym, grooming etc. Slut shaming is no longer a big deal in western countries, calling a girl a slut now makes you a sexist asshole. Women get paid less but that is because they tend to have more agreeable personalities, not because they are strictly female. Women do not get cruelly punished for showing weakness like men do. Fear of being raped is the only valid one which i can think of.

@Thestarguitarist14 Because girls have insecurities and need validation. Not all girls are super hot and know they are hot and great. A lot of girls have guys they like not care about them and compliments can make their day if done at the right way and at the right moment. I dont like very hot girls because their personality tends to suck. They can have an amaizing life because of their hotness so they never bother investing on themselves. Also the competition for them is insane and not worth the work just for some sex. If i want sex with a hot girl i can just fuck a hooker, from a girl i want a good personality first

@Thestarguitarist14 All good except compliments. Compliments when done geniounly and strategically are very good, especially with decent girls (not super hot ones)

@Thestarguitarist14 Tell me then some ways to stimulate women emotionally

@Preety_India Could you give us some ways to stimulate her emotionally please? People on this forum always use that term but i never understood what it meant. Give me some examples please.

@somegirl There is nothing wrong with falling for a fuckboy and ignoring good guys. I have a problem when girls start crying after this about how guys are jerks and they cant find someone good for them. It is like eating only junk food because its tasty and then crying about how you are fat and food makes you fat. Learn to enjoy salad too not just junk. It might not be as addictive tasty but it is better for your well being overall.

So the title of the post is from a video from a youtuber. He is basically saying that girls all they have to do is look good and society will be a lot softer and nicer to them compared to guys where they have to perform, offer something besides their looks and be strong. If a guy does not do a lot with his life he is considered a loser or a failure while a girl can just marry a successful guy and society in general will overlook her poor performance if she looks good. Guys, even good looking ones do not have those freebies. I want your guys opinion on this. I know it sounds super biased towards guys (and it is) but i think there is some truth to it (just like there is some truth about every perspective). I personally have noticed this in western countries where i live where girls only have to offer looks to at least find a partner.

@Byun Sean Define a high quality man please I love your replies to my points. I do think they are great but there is 1 thing i disagree with. On point 3) i did not say great guy in terms of being nice guy. I am not saying a needy manipulative guy at all. I mean a geniounly kind caring honest cool person. You can be those things without being bold or assertive or dominant or charismatic. A stage green person so to speak. So you can be independent, grounded, decently confident and passionate about stuff without the qualities mentioned above

@Thestarguitarist14 Alright, thank you for your advice. Although a big problem i have is friend-zone problems. Girl loves me as a person but is not attracted to me. They don't see my as a sexual being at all. If i ever told them i liked them they would be surprised since i never made any moves.

@Thestarguitarist14 Attracting girls is a skill, its not something that is there. You are saying because you are 0 at playing the piano then you have no value. Of course i have a lot of value but i suck at specific things which you need to get girls attracted to you. I suck at flirting, leading, making moves, showing the girl i am into her, dont approach, a bit shy and serious.

@Byun Sean Good perspective but i have some points to make. 1. If a girl takes care of herself and looks decent she will get so much positive reinforcement, guys simping on her and society pleasing her than it will be hard for her to have low self esteem 2. Guys struggle about insecurities about looks too. Go on google and type: "Do looks matter", all answers will be regarding whether looks are important for a guy to have. Guys get tossed aside if they are unattractive just as harshly as girls get. (talking about developed countries here) 3. There are plenty of kind caring decent guys out there that will not dumb you and treat you well if a girl wants to date them. You can ignore the alpha traits and get treated super well by a great guy. Being alpha and being a great guy are independent variables. 4. Girls can always approach guys if they want and that gives them a huge advantage. Usually a girl can get a guy who usually wouldn't approach her just because she made it easy for him and since most guys hate approaching, it gives girls a cheat code to get guys since most girls never approach. 5. Even though girls have more need for intimacy than guys do, if guys try to act like they need love and affection then girls tend to loose attraction while guys dont care as long as the girl is hot The period and that they have limited time, want more intimacy etc arguments are legit. I would like to hear your opinion on the points i made here.

@Thestarguitarist14 It is a good start if you are 0. Then you can integrate what you teach after you have a base built

@Thestarguitarist14 So be confident, charismatic, funny, take care of your finances, body, have some passion and sense of purpose and indepdent.

@Thestarguitarist14 I doubt Coray Wayne was socially indept and horrible with girls like Leo was and then got very good at it. His advice is great but he does not teach you how to charm a girl, all he does is teaching you the logistics of dating and how to do the courtering process well. I read his book like 4 times, it is very good, but it does not cover everything. If you are like me, your issue is that the girl is not attracted to you. Therefore coray wayne advice about handling dates, asking them out, dealing with them in relationships etc is all futile since the attraction is missing. Alpha male strategies is basically "focus on yourself". It is good advice IF your life is full of interactions with people and you already have good social skills. Doubt that guy had shitty social skills in the past. So yeah different teachers for different people. For nerdy shy introverted guys Leo advice is good. For outgoing good social skill guys those channels are better.

@Michal__ It is easier for a women to have an easy life than for a men. Women get freebies because they are women and hot, men do not. Only thing men have going on for them is the fact that their value does not decrease rapidly after hitting 35 like it does for women. Also men do not have crazy emotional fluctuations and periods which i have heard are a pain in the ass. There are good and bad things for both sides for sure but i feel like girls have more security than men do. Even in a relationship the man is supposed to be the strong pillar, the emotional mountain where girls cry on. As a men you are judged a lot more for being weak than a woman is. The girls get shamed for sex argument does not work in western countries. In western countries people dont care about girls sleeping a lot, that is a conservative attitude which no longer exists in first world liberal countries.

@see_on_see The way you find yourself is by experimenting different extremes until you find the healthy sweet spot. If you have been a super nice guy all your life and let people walk over you then it is a good idea to become a selfish prick for a while to finally find the sweet spot. A lot of people do not act natural because they have been repressed for so long they do not know what is natural to them. Experimenting with the other extreme by becoming TOO emotional will in the end help you find your true self, the sweet middle spot. This process of becoming too emotional is just part of the whole thing, it is not the end result. At least this is my interpretation on Leo's advice. I mean considering how shy and introverted he claims to have been (also average looking guy so not handsome either) and managed to attract very hot girls it shows the advice works. I think though it only works for emotionally repressed people like him, not for everyone. Side note: When i get drunk i also tend to be very loose and emotional and shit like that and many people have told me i become a lot more attractive compared to my sober self where i am a bit too serious and stiff. So being emotional as a guy does have benefits.

@Recursoinominado What is good about this?

@see_on_see This is great advice for emotionally repressed people like Leo used to be. Maybe you are natural at this shit so yeah it seems stupid. If you are very shy, introverted, cant show emotion, basically a soulless empty blank shell then this advice is a good way to swing back into a more human full of life state. It is very over the top but it is good advice for these kind of people. Considering a lot of people that watch this kind of stuff are like this then it is no suprise this advice is written here. If you want advice from an extrovert about getting girls then do not listen to LEO, his advice is for people that used to be like him.

@Thestarguitarist14 outside looks well : kind, caring, honest, affectionate, sexual, likes to please the guy so not selfish sex, smart, intellectual so reads shit not ignorant, ambitious, funny, not super need, open minded. I usually see good looking guys or guys with status or guys with natural charm and charisma get good girls even they are good guys. Usually guys have to resort to the douchebagness if they lack looks, drive or charm

@Thestarguitarist14 I have seen good guys with great girls. They usually back themselves with good looks, ambition, purpose etc not just emotional stiumation while being a total loser and taking 0 care of yourself