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@Breakingthewall I agree with some of the stuff that you said but there’s no knowing of this because knowing also implies a knower and known. So then it’s just this. Unknowable.

Nonono there is no you.

I made a thread. Don’t confuse nonduality with radical nonduality (please?) Just a few days ago

I honestly don’t understand what you’re saying. How do you know we don’t go "deep” or whatever alone? I mean same with psychedelics, you go it alone.

Radical nonduality says not that. Look at my thread which talked about that.

Ok so you’re saying we “should” log off or close the forum and then we can be real sages like the people on your books? Or what exactly are you saying

I don’t believe you care that much about human rights either habub. You care more about attacking the west imo.

I mean i didn’t got into "spirituality” because of Leo. Real “sages" assumtions and hogwash.

Show me the people that got enlightened from this “transmission”

I know it doesn’t matter. Just would have liked to hear Leos 2 cents on the matter (which also doesn’t matter)

I mean i don’t think the answer is important. But i feel like Leo is evading that question and i don’t see why.

There is a part of me which is just absolutely obsessed with others perception of me. And also want to control it. And also thinks everything is about me or my responsibility. Which seems pathological. And i think the only sustainable remedy-ish i found thus far is non duality.

Yea but i have this obsessive mind that obsesses over things. For example a long time ago i was obsessed with my hair. I looked into every reflecting surface to see if my hair was alright. And this is exactly what narcissus did in the water pond 🦭

Same i often wonder. Because i’ve been in a way obsessed with myself. Often thinking i’m not good enough or whatever though. But i also always want(ed) to impress people. And then when i thought enlightenment or liberation is possible-ish. I thought i will be soooo cool and impressive when I’m enlightened.

What more info/details would you need?

One of your mods claiming that neo-advaita is The Biggest example of fake spirituality. I’m not even sure if neo advaita is the same as radical nonduality. Google says people like Tony Parsons but also Nisargadatta are neo advaita. Your thoughts?

They were all talking simultaneously so it’s hard to listen to. I don’t know th Nelk Bois, i don’t care for Hasan Abi although he makes some good points. The only good one on this talk was the other guy Dave or whatever.

@Leo Gura thoughts?

So there seemingly is just this immediacy which just is what it is. And then at some point separation sets in. The feeling of being separate. Which isn’t a problem but with it many things come attached. Like a feeling of lack a need to be safe which causes a need for control of self and others and so on. I can see it in myself but also in something like Israel for example. I don’t want to dish on Israel in this thread but it’s just a good example of the human condition going to the extreme of control and survival. So then this control and survival causes things like Mossad, covert operations, Gaza and so on. It causes paranoia and suffering. And in the human condition can get very complex like narcissism and so on. Me against the world kind of thing. So then this fight against reality could be called resistance. So then maybe if you find spirituality or whatever at some point you develop resistance to the resistance and so on. Someone like James from the forum would probably say you just need to love the resistance and it melts away. But i don’t really believe in free will so that’s when it comes to grace and hopelessness. In any case i don’t really know where I’m going with this. I just found a fight against reality a nice phrase.

Is that why you have sugar in the name because it dissolves? ”I’m the man made of salt who went to measure the depth of the ocean”

I misread the thread title, i thought it was a question like “anyone interested in NDE?” But i mean like what give me another example. In the world there are things i’ll just believe like the were dinosaurs, it doesn’t really affect me in any way. But in this “spiritual” thing i’d rather mostly focus on my own "experience”

I mean not really because i don’t really trust other peoples experiences that much.