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@Keyhole I think they are a combination of two things. First, they are the manifestations of enlightened beings who are helping people work toward enlightenment. "Ascended Masters" or "Bodhisattva" Second, they are the manifestations of archetypes of the collective unconscious in symbolic form. We project them 'out there' where they become solid enough to reflect radar. Basically our collective and unconscious psychokinetic ability, as focused through the lens of our space-age mythology

About an hour ago I did a search here for the term UFO, nothing turned up. I was surprised. I would very much like a super-thread on the subject, but it needs to be worded carefully so that it doesn't beg the question of what they are. I for one don't think they are aliens

@Demeter I'm 50. I was 40 when my experience happened. I had been practicing meditation, yoga, contemplation on-and-off for several years before but I didn't really realize what I was doing. It just sort of came naturally to me. For my bhakti I prayed to the sacred feminine archetype in general, Sophia in particular. For many years prior I had a build-up of experiences starting in my early 20s when a friend and I had a very clear and very close UFO encounter. It set me on a path of intense study. My third eye began to open and I had visions, psychic dreams, premonitions, intuitive knowing, etc

I would say the bhagavad gita

Tat Tvam Asi

@justfortoday If you've been awareness itself, then why are you identifying with your ego? Your ego isn't you, your life isn't your life, and you are not going through a tough time. Your ego is.

I would recommend working a modest micro-dose routine into your meditation efforts before jumping into a macrodose. Don't go straight from walking to highway driving

He's going to need a mystical experience to take him past his rational mind

@blankisomeone yup, i can

@EmptyVase Hey thanks for the blessing I didn't try to force that state, it caught me off-guard. I didn't do the heavy lifting, yoga-wise. I was ushered into it by the Blue Pearls. They did the heavy lifting. It happened on the winter solstice lunar eclipse of 2010. Burn-out can certainly happen but I don't think that happened to me. The last ten years have had ups and downs with lots of opportunities to learn and grow, and lots of opportunities to fall flat on my face. The first few months after the experience were the most challenging part. I don't feel the need to do yoga anymore. I think the goal of yoga has been achieved for me. I am 'yoked' to God or Brahman or whatever you want to call it.

No no don't be sorry I'm here to answer questions. It helps me process. Ten years later and I'm still processing the experience. The human brain is slow. I do Bhakti and a little Kundalini yoga. For weeks after the experience, my baseline was altered. It was as if part of my consciousness was still expanded, and spilling out of my body. I couldn't eat, and instead of sleeping I would fall into a meditative state. That was my first fast, quite involuntary. It was as if one foot was still in Turiya and one foot was here. A liminal state. I was visited by beings many times. I couldn't drive my car, I was still getting used to my body and driving was too much. When I walked it was as if I was staying still and the universe moved around me instead of me moving through it. It was very unusual. Now my baseline consciousness feels kinda back to normal, but there is a part of me that's awake that was asleep before. Behind my ego-self. That's my Self. It's the real me, and the ego-self is like a mask I wear for navigating the social world. Sometimes I get sucked into the melodrama of the world and think I'm my ego-self, but even then my Self is always there, watching.

Blue Pearls (bindu) ushered me into Turiya. At first I thought it was two Blue Pearls, but as my mind expanded I became hyper-lucid and saw that each them them was actually comprised of a multitude of Blue Pearls, arranged in concentric circles. Like two large mandalas. They began to shine in patterns that were fast and complex, very deep and somehow meaningful patterns that somehow communicated with me. Shifting, intricate patterns that seemed to literally shape me. It was as if I was being communicated into being right before my eyes as my mind expanded into the silence and depth of Brahman. So there I was, in the infinite silent depth of Brahman and it was incomprehensible. It was so deep, so deep. My mind seemed to expand, expand, expand. It was timeless, and the Blue Pearls continued producing amazing patterns one after the other. The word 'pattern' seems insufficient. Eventually the Blue Pearls told me (without words) to move my arm. I did so, and I looked at my arm. It seemed to move in suspended animation, I can't really describe it. Moving without moving. I looked at it, and it was made out of some kind of energy. Inside it were lights, like stars. Then the Blue Pearls put me back into normal consciousness. It was like being sucked back down a wormhole that connected me to normal consciousness. When I regained a waking state, I was shocked. I felt like I had been crammed into a tiny little box that could in no way hold my expanded consciousness. It felt like I was stuffed back into an unreal dream. This waking state is no where near as real as Brahman. This is a flimsy illusion compared to that. The human body is way, way too small for my consciousness. It took me a long time to adjust. It wasn't easy. But some part of me is still connected to Turiya, and the Blue Pearls are always near. Yup, years ago.

I think the biggest thing we can learn from them is that how society helps them needs to be improved. They need the kind of support that recognizes where they are at, in terms of the mystical development process, and can help them get to the next stage.