Tifecool

A tree is not made from atoms, there is only a tree. The scientist might say this is nonsense and that the atoms exist if only you'd use an electron microscope to view them. To which the philosopher might respond: either view, the tree or the atoms, depends on how you look at it. The tree might as well be a "pixel" of green if viewed from outer space and all other views cease to exist. I imagine the scientist finding the philosopher's "fallacious" proposition irritating, obviously these three different states of the tree exist! There is a tree; there are atoms of this tree and there is a view of the tree from space. But, there is no disembodied human eye looking through an invisible electron microscope to see the atoms of the tree when no one is trying to view the atoms; nor is there a disembodied eye viewing the tree from an invisible spacecraft. "But then the atoms exist if you view it or not!" protests the scientist. But an atom in what sense? An atom in relation to who or what? Clearly not the atom seen under the electron microscope, that view is relative to the apparatus viewing it in that particular way and there is no atom relative to the base human eye which, at best, sees the brown bark via the visible light spectrum. "The objective atom! The atom that exists in of itself!" says the scientist, clinging to his ever slippery understanding of the atom. "Ah-ha" he says, "This is the atom that exists when no one views it" smirking sheepishly. ̷D̷o̷e̷s̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ ̷s̷p̷i̷r̷i̷t̷ ̷h̷a̷v̷e̷ ̷e̷y̷e̷s̷?̷ ̷ I̷n̷ ̷h̷e̷a̷v̷e̷n̷ ̷h̷o̷w̷ ̷w̷i̷l̷l̷ ̷y̷o̷u̷ ̷s̷e̷e̷?̷ Does an atom have an eye? So how can it perceive itself? What is an atom to itself? If you subscribe to the very conventional view that nothing but humans have conscious experience, then the atom exists only when miraculously viewed by a human eye by chance lest it exists in less than darkness. What power in the human eye to bring things in and out of existence! But then, should not all our wardrobes open up into Narnia? But alas, they do not. The atom must exist without the human viewer! But, it exists in less than darkness, in other terms, non-existence as reality occurs only when "viewed". "The omnipresent eye of God! It views all the atoms" the scientist recalls his Christian upbringing and wonders if he could have been wrong all along. And what type of eye is that? A human eye? or an electron microscopic eye? or the myriad of other animal eyes? "The girl with kaleidoscope eyes" -The Beatles A single particle in a universe the void of anything else stays stationary and does not exist. Only in relation does a thing exist; a relation which is "experienced".

If you could give up your free-will and instead be moved by God's Will, would you? If the answer is yes, then let/pray that God's Will will take place in your life, and have faith it has and shall.

Personally, I don't think I've prepared in any way for a psychedelic trip, but I feel I can handle it just from the fact I'm maybe naively fearless of things and the ability to just accept whatever situation I find myself.

Appreciate this

Simply put ? Enjoyed that read.

So this is a quote I made a few months back: "A car is to walking as psychedelics are to meditation" I just want to know if my reasoning is sound. I've really never achieved much spirituality from meditation and the likes, but I'm a big proponent for psychedelics and find meditation unnecessary/too much work, what advice do you have for me?

If you truly don't see it. Is it there? A child that doesn't understand these things exists in a reality where these things don't exist. You get?

I just wanted to give a big thanks to Leo for making such an amazing community. Where I stay there's no one I can really relate with on these matters, having a community like this will really do me some good.

You shouldn't bro, just be kind to him. Maybe listen to him and give him some money like Leo said. Know that he'll be good in the end. We all will be.

I just want to start off by saying: Stop. You're God. That's fine, but that's not the point. Being God was never the point. You want to be you, that's why you decided to be you. I had an experience with a drug (still not sure what it is till this day, I'm from Nigeria and the drug culture is horrendous, noone knows what it is exactly they're taking) and it felt as if I was talking to God, and he showed me what he was and what it was like to be him (God has no gender, it's not a he or a she, it wasn't anything, I just use he for convenience). It was overwhelming. At the end was a simple message "This is me, this is you. Be you for the time being". On the come down some religious thoughts came to mind about how the devil wanted to be God in the bible, and how evil came about from humans eating the fruit to be like God (I'm not Christian, I should add) and it all made sense. We aren't wrong to want to be more like God, don't get me wrong, but to be God... It's not fun, that's why everything is. Be you. Hope I didn't ruin anyone's day ? You can be God sometimes if you like though, I'd definitely wouldn't mind exploring more of consciousness and it's possibilities, still an amateur psychonaut.

Is it really genuine if you're doing it just to make him nicer to you? Why do you think you'd prefer him be nice to you, is your decision out of generosity or fear?