blandana

You'll realize what a horror it is even if you're a part of me when you put yourself in the position of if you create all things and all things are a part of your mind. No one is real, and any person you see or perceive is just a figment of your imagination. You can have fun with them but in the end it's just another "you" that you've changed or want to see. One of the saddest realities I've ever thought of.

Would that actually make you real though? Or is that "real enough" if I am actually alone in the universe? I'm gonna cry

I am I feel. Unless you are real, then it proves that I am not since you are not a part of me. Not being narcissitic here. You'll say that its B.S. but that's what I expect. I've tripped more than once and realize theres the idea that "we all have a piece of god." But maybe that's not true. I just want to believe other people are real. That's all I guess I'm saying. I don't want you to be just another invention of my need for an imaginary friend.

as a disclaimer I am going to go to sleep in 4 hours or less and will stop responding, I appreciate the replies I have received though.

Probably for only a year. But like I mentioned I'm starting to realize this topic is more for you not for me. I've come to the realization that no matter what anyone says if they are literally a figment of my imagination then I have nothing I can say to prove that you are real. But if you have a physical body and physical thoughts beyond what my subconscious provides, please believe you are real. I will not become depressed no matter how much derogatory language you provide against my post.

BTW Edan I've had at least 3 to 10 lucid dreams. I can guarantee you're not alone. I had a severe case of absolute lucidity and it hasn't happened again but I was able to control and be aware of the dream the entire time and drag it out. Lucid dreaming is definitely possible. I've been trying to discover if "out of body" experiences are possible but have not proved it yet. Lucid dreaming though I have proved to myself.

You've had a lucid dream too huh? That's pretty amazing. I almost went full lucid two days ago again. I have a thing where I lose my pants in dreams and I realized that that's a "dream sign" i said "oh this is a dream isn't it i dont have any pants again" Such a weird topic but I entirely understand where you're coming from (no sexual pun intended)

It's because I know If i met you in person you seem real. I could touch you. etc. ....I just hope you people are something I didn't make subconsciously. You'll know deep down that you are someone else but I can't prove it on my end. Thanks for the reply.

I guess this thread is more for you than me now that I realize I can never really prove this kind of thing. If you are actually a part of my subconcious I'll have to accept it. But if you have a real body, and real thoughts, that's good. Really hoping that's the case (that ur more than just a figment of my imagination) Imagine if ur god and no one really exists. The only "friends" you have are creations of your own design stemming from your need for companionship and deep down they are just mirror or replications or yourself and chemical composition. That's what I'm afraid of. I'm hoping that just isn't the case. Thanks for replying Leo and Rilles.

what makes me think I'm the creator you might ask? everything I ever experience subconcious or conversation wise seems to stem out of feelings I have in my brain. the "coincidences" i experience on a daily basis have caused me to stop listening to the radio and stop watching tv. My father and I witness "geeksquad" nascar car on tv meerly moments after we mentioned it. (a once in a lifetime occurance, very coincidental) I also had a phenomenon with pensky trucks since we used them. Our family moved houses every now and then and I would see them on the road a few weeks or a few days after I or my family mentioned them to me. Minor occurrences here and there etc. Also I experienced tripping on psychedlics and understand this kind of stuff at a very deep level although not as deep as Leo.

you seem real, but if i have a connection to the lord or am the creator, its just difficult to prove. I just -hope- you're real. And i want there to be more real people if I didn't create you. thanks for your reply.

I guess I'm realizing I can never prove it. Even if I made you up you seem as real as I do. I had a realization that even if that is going on if you or I are the only sole being in the universe that that's natural to make up "friends" from your own imagination, even if they are basically robots. Kind of hoping you're real though besides just a character. Thanks for replying

oh you....you would be derogatory wouldnt you? appreciate your criticism. Pretty sure I want you to be real but I still have the fear that you're just another person I made up. It's discussed in your video when you're describing your new substance you found. "you're imagining me talking to you and visa versa" I just hope to the real lord that theres more than one person on this planet and that I'm not the creator of the universe :\ I don't take offense to your comment and appreciate it more than dislike it. ...especially since you own this website lol

Please dont use the response "i can reply from my physical fingertips at a different location" Please look deeper than that.

That's one reason I stopped watching tv and the radio. One time I thought something similar to "the voice inside your head" not that I'm schizophrenic but then the radio said "i'm the voice inside your head." I have since then never listened to the radio and completely stopped watching t.v. It was cool at first for me and started when I began psychedelics but eventually it sort of just creeped me out and didn't get me anywhere noticing things like that. Sad but that's just my experience. In my opinion it's pointless to pay attention to them and it feels like its just the universe stalking you / me / or whoever happens to have them. Almost uncalled for!

Why did the monk go to the airport? To get to a higher -plane- lol I just made that up but I think it's works.

Well for the record my grandpa smoked nearly his whole life until he was like 95 and died because he fell down the stairs lol, not from lung cancer which is pretty interesting. So I don't know. It's your choice in the end. I have the same problem but I deal with too much stress right now to feel like I'd be at an advantage if I quit most times. I feel like you have to be at a comfortable place in your life in order to quit where unexpected stressful situations don't happen as much anymore. candy is a good alternative but it still costs money. replacing it with nothing is pretty hard to do.

Do you think flowers and some organic shapes like honeycombs or starfish are pentagonish because they were "intelligently designed" by a creator or is that just a coincidence of chemical composition in your opinion? Have you found any reason to believe in an intelligent creator because of some mathematical order you have discovered in the universe or your experiences? Or if you believe in an intelligent creator, what experience for the most part if there is one made you believe in it more significantly than other experiences?

Trusting your feelings can lead to decent career choices but there are "people" out there who try to take advantage of trust and enjoyment and gullibility which makes it a bad idea sometimes. Personally my feelings towards other people's intentions tend to be pretty accurate but you always have to look out for people trying to take advantage of your trust due to "feelings" you have towards them that seem genuine. That's really the only thing I can think of about it being irrational to use them for everything. The most basic example is "mob mentality." A good example of that is what the holocaust did. It seemed like fun for some people I'm sure to make fun of jewish people or something but depending on what they did it might have turned illegal and before they realized it or had a "change of heart" in terms of their "feelings." They were eventually in a worse place most likely when it all fell apart, not only spiritually but financially as well.

It might have happened to me just a few hours ago weirdly enough. I ended up finding this seminar for out of body experiences and how to make them happen and I feel like I was very close. See here: https://www.forum.obe4u.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14971 I only watched the first one but the weird part was is that I have this mat next to me I -sometimes- sleep on. I hadn't used it in a month and then for some reason after I had a nap today (I hardly get enough sleep so I figured it was the perfect opportunity since I was tired and woke up too early again) I had 3 times wheres I literally woke up on that mat, in the house I'm at and tried to "roll out of my body." Each time it happened I managed to roll off the mat with my eyes closed and then got up. The first time I didn't see my sleeping body so I just went back to bed thinking "oh I failed" but I was actually dreaming. Second time this happened I actually felt like there was a little string attached to my leg and then it snapped and I felt like I was zapped with electricity or something (similar to what some people tend to say). It was very similar to a lucid dream in that I was under the impression "something was happening" but I wasn't sure what it was. Unfortunately the house upstairs was not the same and I didn't see my sleeping body so it didn't entirely work but I saw a few friends of mine and said "im obeing I think." Really weird that what I watched directly influenced what I dreamt about because that doesn't usually happen. Usually I dream about something random and remember it later. Not even the lucid dreams I've had took place inside my house. The weirdest part was waking up on that specific mat inside the house I am at literally 3 times in one night, although I had one dream at first where I was in an entirely different location. Makes me wonder if it was partially real or not. That's never happened to me before. I'll have to try again later tonight or tomorrow

Realize that there's always someone else out there. I thought there was a girl that was put on this earth just for me, and maybe she was but she ended our relationship which could have gotten romantic for someone else with more money, who was older, and weighed less than me at the time. I never found out why, she just stopped talking to me one day and I never got an explanation. Since then I've realized there's more than one person I can feel very similarly about though, even if the first person I mentioned was who I got along with and felt like understood me the best. I had suicidal thoughts when it happened but have since then gotten over it and can be happy about myself knowing I've run into a few other girls that I could see myself being happy or even happier with in the end, of course none of them worked out either but it's nice to know.

A lot of people might feel this way including myself constantly. It's nice to see that you were somehow able to find something worth living for, even if only for a limited time. There are things that matter to me but I'm hardly outspoken about what they are ever. If I was honest I'd say not even all people matter to me. None of my friends ever really understood me anyway.