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@Rainy Sparkle thank you for sharing your experiences with me. Pretty interesting what you've gone through especially seeing from three perspectives. I think I know about the state between being asleep and awake. I am familiar with that, I can sense it sometimes, some light dreams come, but then I can pull myself out if them and remember that I am also still half awake. I had lucid dreaming before too, but this, incident in hand is a whole other level. My psyche was shocked, not me the rational mind. The rational mind remembers the shock and can't forget about it easily. You wake up terrified from a nightmare for example, you sense that your body is sweaty, and feel heaviness on chest But my psyche in some level was so shocked that it refused to even form a memory of what happened, only after a day or so, a memory became accessible to me. I remembered the scene i described, and the horror that followed. If it was a dream, this works backwards, you dream about something and if you don't record the details on paper as soon as you wake up, you forget about them easily.

Yesterday, I've just finished watching video "Why Valuable things require development over time". What an amazing episode, it goes with the essence of the book "Mastery" . I've just felt hopeful, because I was always regretting my years wasted before I started my self-development journey. However when he said that "It is better done later than never", and gave many examples and ideas about that, I just felt hopeful again. I am 38 and I've started the work around 5 years ago. Hopefully I'll reach good milestones within the next five years, and I'll be only 43 then. We can't do anything about the past anyways, and I feel that on the other hand there was little that I could do to navigate the vast self-help world before Leo showing up with his holistic approach to education which helped me form a big picture thinking and approach to this field, and that in turn will help me choose wisely what I want to pursue rather than getting lost in nfinite possibilities. Thank you Leo

@SQAAD The regimes in these third world countries are fragile, Ghadaffi was an idiot. When the protests started against him, he decided to go to the streets and protest with those who are protesting against him! From Actualized.org's prespective, he wasn't anticipating that thugs that are less developped could kill him, still blinded by those loyal to him.

We might never ever know what this child means. https://youtube.com/shorts/JLLFeZGeXbA

I used to listen to Actualized.org videos on the podcast, few years back, it was all fine, but then recently the download speed has became very frustrating. An episode can take a half an hour, with speed varying between 500kb and 30kb, and this is how I know it is not my connection. Now the podcast apps has this cool feature, where you can skip the silent moments, and it comes handy when you try to go through an old episode fast, especially when Leo recommends watching it within his new videos. I hope there's a solution to this problem soon.

Seems like a nice city, and one of the major cities in Finland. It is interesting how with all the scientific advancement at your country, but the total population is no more than 6 Millions! in Iraq we are almost 40 millions right now, and increasing at an alarming rate. We don't even have 24 hours electircity but people are having kids anywyas.

He's just an idiot, Americans will come back to Afghanistan sooner than he thinks. That's when ISIS takes hold of the country after swallowing the Taliban

I came here to write about my suicidal thoughts, but I decided to have a look at this forum, and I noticed many people are thinking about the same issue. Here are my tips to deal with suicidal thoughts: - Whenever you think suicidal, run for 10 minutes, and notice how your day gets brighter for the next two days. - Whenever you feel the world is against you, remember it is most likely a "know-how" issue, and take pledge to learn about reality a bit more. - Read books about influence, and seduction, in this way, you will learn how to influence the world and people around you in a way that makes your life better. Here are four books: "48 laws of power", and "The Art of seduction", by Robert Grene. Also "Influence" and "Pre-Suasion" by Robert Chaldini" -Watch Actualized.org videos 3 times a week. - and finally, be patient, this ignorance that you enjoy isn't only yours, it is in fact accumulated from several hundred of generation throughout the history of mankind, so be proud that you will be a part of the solution.

I'm recently learning the hard way, that I need to appeal to people's values, and at first I find great resistance inside of me, because I think to myself then I have no value by myself alone? but when days pass, I can find ways to appeal to people's values. I am thinking that I should work for a cause of plastic-free city where I am, and this way people will just start to rally around me, and money will pour in. Do I think that plastic is the biggest issue or the right way to start in my city? absulotely not, but then probably tens of people are willing to accpet me just because I appeal to their values. People are selfish, and if it takes you to align to their values to get their love and acceptance, then maybe you can find a way to do so!

Yes that's the same exact feeling that I get. And nobody seems to understand my situation. Better to learn some influence techniques so that we can make our situation better

@Preety_India @Marcel It could also be chemicals in the brain! Take your ass out and start running, guaranteed you'll feel 50% about life and yourself. the idea is that you reach a degree of fulfillment in life, and this has two components: 1- The chemicals in the brain for short term relief 2- some degree of control over your surrounding people and circumstances, and that can be achieved through learning the dynamic on influence.

Can you give examples of this manipulation that's happening with you ?

With all the warning in the start of the video, I was actually intimidated, but when the video progressed, I found many fulfilling answers to questions which I had for years. Example I was hating all the humanitarian workers who come to Iraq in order to put a small patch on a great wound, many of them with loads of NGO funds most certainly from capitalism money. I was irritated because they actually think that their work in Iraq is going to make a huge difference, thinking like if they can only infect many people with their ideology. Now I know that 'Oh', they are simply unaware how this NGO humanitarian efforts works and who pays their salaries. One more step towards less arguments. Also when I used to discuss certain points in society, many people come to attack me in return, but now I became aware that what's important for a society is not fairness, or love, but for the system to survive, while many people identify themselves with the system. Thank you Leo

Have you ever considered? The new international order that's imposed by the allies after WWII is not compatible with nations that are less developed on the spiral, yet there were much efforts to enforce this system through the UN and also through multiple wars, like the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq. Many would blame the US for invading countries, but what else it is supposed to do? leave some pockets here and there to become safe haven for those who will use all available resources to destabilize its endeared international order? Humanity needs to reach to a time where we can let go of this utopian stage-orange vision of sovereign countries altogether, cuz it is not working! Here we have Afghanistan, and it is ready to fall back to Taliban the moment the last US soldier leaves, and the US is now totally OK with that. They called for negotiations with Taliban in Doha in order to facilitate the transfer of power, cause what the heck? they're going to have control anyway! I expect a similar fate when the US let go of Iraq, they could call the Ba'th party (Saddam's party) or ISIS in order to have talks in Doha before they withdraw their forces. Nations of countries like Iraq or Afghanistan are truly incompatible with international order, they are still entrenched in stage-blue religious thinking and values, and can't begin to fathom cooperation that's not based on the principles of their religions. There's clear dissonance between their secular government, and the rest of the nation, in which the first tries its best to run a country like any government would do, but the people don't believe in what their government is doing, and they always measure things against the teachings of religions, starting from internal affairs, and ending with the country's relation with the rest of the world. At some point, the government will ultimately fail, or the forces that's supporting it (The international presence in Iraq for example) will get out and leave things behind, what will happen then? Shiite of Iraq, now backed by the US are refusing to modernize and let go of their stage-blue-purple mentality, and they're kind of right about that, cuz why would they want to let go of this while the international forces are baby-sitting them?

Not at all, nothing could guarantee the transformation of those countries to modern nations. One factor I think of always is that the real possibility of contribution of any nation in modern science science can only make their progress possible. Example, Israel. There's no other nation in that region that contributes more to modern science than Israel.

Yes it is that one

What a stupid idea to expect defeated generals to come back and shake hands with their conquer, that's some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard in my life, it hasn't happen in history before.

The enormous amount of force I believe which has been used against ISIS and AL-Ba'th made them go underground or disappear from the scene, also ISIS, and with the discontent of Iraqi people with how their country turned out to be (loads of corruption and disastrous infrastructure) the old forces might get revived in no time. At least the public will stand still when the government that every Iraqi hates (except me) will go down the drainage and collapse. The mindsets of the general public is fucked up in Iraq, an average citezen has this utopian image of his country, being the best, the greatest the one who has thousands of years of civilazations, "We" as they claim "have taught the world how to read and write", "but then came this imperialistic America, criminal state, and spread its evil on the world, they bombed Hiroshima, and fought Vietnam, and now they are sabotaging our country". "They must be the source of all evil, and we have to fight them, cause the free nations of the world will be victorious at the end!" !!! "Because God is with us, the right is with us" This is how they think! there's no way they're changing their mind and seeing any different truth. Since that Iraq is a miserable place today, they blame the US for everything, and they're demanding that it ends its presence here, even though the last time this happened, ISIS sweeped the country over a night. Iraq is a fake country, I believe this will continue to happen unless someone invades and completely subdue Iraqi nation to its knees, like how it is done with Japan. Iraq has never gained independence itself, and cannot run itself by itself, cannot stay afloat. Iraq is not even a country, is it a country where its cities are isolated with hundreds of checkpoints? It is not a country I am telling you. There's no freedom of movement within the country, there's no freedom at all Iraq is like North Korea, but with the exception that there's internet access, but then you have to spend huge energy, and daily hundreds of people dying in order to keep it looks like functioning. There are almost 10000 civilian died in the operation of regaining Mosul according to Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/12/iraq-new-reports-place-mosul-civilian-death-toll-at-more-than-ten-times-official-estimates/ People are dying everyday in order to keep the utterly silly idea of a country up and running, what do you know about the high cost? I am telling you, the moment the US goes out, Iraq will be dismantled , and right now, it is a prolonged suffering for its people, who are pushing against any attempt to make them join the international community. Iraqi nation is spoiled, they think they are kings, or sons of kings, and they are so important that the whole world is conspiring against their "golden" country, they feel very entiteled and they think they are the best nation of the world. The American presence or protection has spoiled us. When someone sees that America has a presence here, they stop taking security seriously, and in fact, when things go wrong, they accuse America, the one with the gun. Many believe that America has created ISIS and Alqaeda and unleashed them in Iraq, and almost 100% Iraqis think that Hillary Clinton has announced that America has created ISIS, what's the chance of a fucked up nations who's its wise men think like this to survive the real ISIS when they are left alone? Chances is zero they survive it, and that's what happened on 2014 after America withdrew its forces. They can't decide nothing, completely fucked up mindsets, spoiled, entitled, even lost and paralyzed. ISIS took 1/3 of Iraq within a week in 2014 with very advanced propaganda and war psychology plans, and from that date until now, the stupid Iraqi nation, along with its leaders and politicians think that killing and executing, and restraining freedoms is the way to go. Their best pride moment is when the Shiite Imame ordered the formation of a new popular mobilization forces, thinking that in numbers, they're going to prevail. The Shiite are lower actually on the scale of Spiral Dynamics, they are like stage-purple and stage-red Shiite are lower than Sunnis, cause they have these elements of believing in multiple Imams, sort of multiple Gods, and also their rituals are crazy purple. In that sense, the Saudi and Emarati already free of stage Red-Purple mentality.

No not at all, at least not according to a certain speed, don't fool yourself.

Why is there Someone who's signature is the Mmotto of Islam within this forum ?

They might do it on a whim. Iraq is not modernizing after all, and the coast of keeping it looks like standing up on its feat has its toll.

The teachings that Leo does almost always include discussion/talk about Stage-Blue values and the moral system they are indulging in. I would like to make the argument that no one is able to see clearly the damage of something unless it is in it is in its extreme state. I am a living example of how the war on Iraq was working to achieve its goal and bring freedom to an oppressed nation. I was lucky to find my way here to this community, however there are millions of other fellow citizens in my age who are unlucky and still prisoners of Stage-Blue moral system. I would like to share the points which I consider very damaging to my nation and for the whole world if in case they are not freed ASAP. The case of my nation is extreme, a young person from childhood is indoctrinated to give full loyalty to family, to the point that it is forbidden by the state and not allowed by the community that anybody lives alone in a house or an apartment with no-family, no one literally gives permission to rent a home for a single man or a woman, and we have sort of a racial slur against single people here. What's happening now in places like Iraq is the proliferation of families to its maximum potential, any guy or a girl that's above age 20 should make it a goal to get married, or else they will be living with their parents for the rest of their lives due to the system. The crucial thing is that truly, no progress in the society is going to be made this way, and this is due to the lack of individuality. In order for a society to progress, we should have individuals who are free to move, free to live wherever they are, free to go out and in whenever the wish (unlike now, where a girl cannot stay outside her family home after sunset), only when freedom is achieved then we are going to see people come up with vision in order to advance the society. These stage-blue societies have forgot the importance of meditation, and they deny their people the right to do so, even when the founder of the religions were meditating all the time. Muhammed had his first revelation when he was meditating in a mountain, Jesus went 40 days in the desert to conquer his ego, yet the moral system that's in place now forbids that! -------- The whole argument behind no intervention mentality is "Let them develop on their own pace", but sadly this is not possible, it is not going to happen now because of all of the influence forces like the Internet and Satellite TV that are adopted/imposed on these nations, so they are no more a separate part from the rest of the world. Here's my question, When are we going to treat the rest of the nations of world as we treat our nations? Some of us do that now, some of us give themselves the rights to travel to those nation and contribute to influence them, and some of us rage wars against them already, why there's no conscious efforts to intervene by people like us? I think it is a only a choice we are making, not necessarily a proper one. ------

I guess it is the values that have to be dealt with. How bad it is at your country? Can you walk in into a real state agent and rent a home alone if you're a young woman?

Why would you think so ?