Moksha

Sweet Nothingness doesn't resonate for me, because it implies infinite darkness. Emptiness is closer. Spaciousness is closer yet. Being is where its at, from this limited perspective.

Setting aside the metaphor and the opinion, what do you realize?

@BlackMaze What does your intuition tell you?

Is there any light, intelligence, abundance, or consciousness in the nothing? Or is it utter blackness?

Sorry, my mind just realizes that way. More directly, when you feel grounded in nothingness, what is grounding you? Is anything pulling at you, at the same time?

Being grounded in nothingness seems oxymoronic, until you directly experience it The image that arose for me, when I first discovered it, was floating in an infinite void, sitting in lotus position on a circle of light, noticing the ego spiders scurrying along the void walls, and trying to ensnare me with their webs, but vigilantly staying centered in the light. The spiders have nothing to attach to, as long as you unconditionally stay centered. ?

@SourceCodo The secret sauce of spirituality is unrelenting sincerity. Don't sell yourself short. You have that. ? Creating your own reality is about attention. It is not about intentionally altering reality, but about what you attend, whether intentionally or not. Whatever you attend, you amplify. Which is where "god" comes in. One of the realizations I've had, here in our schizophrenic family, is that people experience god according to their own lens. If their god is different from mine, that is completely ok. The only thing that matters is my direct experience, and the same is true for you. So, where does big-God come in? The more Conscious we are, the closer we are to realizing God, but even then it must be through the lens of our localized experience. For me, it is the withdrawal of our human senses, and the opening of our spiritual eyes. I see the same Consciousness in everything, and everyone. It infuses every form. It is literally all of this. When you realize it in this way, there is an unconditional love that arises, which you never thought could be possible. You have a sense of the sacred, and I feel that profundity too. There's nothing wrong with retaining personality, and continuing to exist in duality. The wisdom, as I see it, is not to overly identify with any of it. Trust your spiritual eyes, because they see truly. Just how I see it, I hope it helps ?

@SourceCodo If we create our own reality, must we not also create our own God? Unless, of course, there is no we.

@Adamq8 ? ?

I was just pondering the last sentence: Go forth, therefore, brethren, on your journey, for the joy of the many, for the happiness of the many, out of compassion for the world. Teach the dharma which is beautiful at the beginning, beautiful in the middle, and beautiful at the end. Let not any two of you go together. I believe the Buddha was pointing out that every teacher has his own path, and teaching (or debating) with someone else is bound to lead to confusion. Just as there are many paths to enlightenment, there are many paths to teaching. The only thing that is required is integrity, and that is only possible with individuality.

Now is also an illusion. Only the timeless is real.

Maybe not the truth, but a deeper perspective on one facet of the truth, which happened to me this week.

@SpiritualAwakening It takes two to Consciously tango.

My 2 cents: Leo's response feels clean. Also, I looked up his video on Zen Devilry, and he is correct. I see a lot of it here, but that is ok too.

Pretty sure Yoda is post-35, at least he was, before he became timeless.

So much nicer being on the non-pointy side of the arrow. ?

@Keyhole I don't know. A soul, most likely. Is it possible that even a soul, at some point, ultimately dissolves back into the God that created it? Good question. I guess I would want to know why the later is more prevalent. What is the mechanism for it? In the real world? I am looking at a manifestation of the later right now, in which I could gaze at it and perhaps come to some sort of understanding but I find its presence intimidating. Perhaps the latter only appears more prevalent from your current experience, and there is an ultimate balance that must always be maintained when all perspectives collapse? I'm not sure. Generally I just wait until I go through death, and then I get another hint. From what I know, it all stays energetically. If anything can be expressed, what would prevent everything from being expressed? Is there any limit to diversity? I don't think so, not entirely. I think that there is another form of order - or disorder, that guides our lives. A higher plan? Yes, I resonate with that.

Thoughts arise, but thoughts can also be directed, like a straight arrow to the heart of its target.

Loved that show as a kid. Little did I realize the profundity of "There can be only One".

This could be a conscious discourse, or an epic ego battle. I vote for consciousness

@Keyhole Some questions to ponder if you like: Is it possible for God to create anything that cannot be destroyed? Can Love, Order, Life, and Beauty exist without Hatred, Chaos, Death, and Ugliness also existing? Is Creation infinite, or is it limited? If infinite, is it not inevitable that all forms that can be created, must be created? Is it possible that, as localized Conscious entities, we create our own reality? If so, what determines the reality that we create?

? that the penultimate step, just before freedom, is realizing love. Yes, it's all hilarious, but this is the part that resonates with "me".

Even better, there is no time, and there is no you, to worry about living forever. Enjoy your changeless, eternal Self.

Pearls before swine, or as the Gita puts it: Do not share this wisdom with anyone who lacks in devotion or self-control, lacks the desire to learn, or scoffs at me. Those who teach this supreme mystery of the Gita to all who love me perform the greatest act of love; they will come to me without doubt. No one can render me more devoted service; no one on earth can be more dear to me. I remember in my first psychology class, meeting with my Mormon professor to ask him about free will. The conversation could have been so much richer, if he had your level of awareness.