Moksha

Loving them wholly is loving them holy, and is the same as loving yourself.

It is a broader reference, not directed specifically at you. I removed the reference to drugs, if that doesn't inform your insights. I am addressing the general sentiment from some in this forum that there is no you, and by implication, that life is empty and nothing matters. I stayed silent on this out of not wanting to argue, but now I'm seeing people affected by it, and am choosing to speak up. People new here read limited knowledge like this, and lose any sense of hope or purpose in their lives. Some have left the forum because of it. How is it possible to love yourself or any other self, when people only see that there is no self for them to love? How is there a place for love in a world where everything is an illusion? Where is the morality or meaning in this view? We are not only dream forms. We are also Atman. You are a child of God, and so am I. We are all the same God, expressing itself infinitely. When you look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see? When you pass someone on the street, what do you see? When you contemplate a tree, what do you see? Are your spiritual eyes open enough to actually see the God that is in you, and in everything else? The Mystery of God runs far deeper than some seem to understand. God is not only outside of the dream world, God is infused into the dream world. That is the meaning of Atman. Nonduality is everything and every nothing. That is the wholeness and the holiness of God. That is why love matters.

I read your other post, and again encourage you to trust your own insights. You referred to feeling the energy of yourself. Have you experienced this as Consciousness? Are you able to feel the Consciousness in others, not only through their eyes, but through their entire being? There is no better instruction manual on Atman than the Bhagavad Gita (especially the translation and commentaries by Eknath Easwaran). Read it Consciously, and it will fill you with light.

Another perspective if you care. Trust the instinct that drove your question. His view is spun from self-dismissal millennial thought, and utterly lacks ancient wisdom. Likely he has never read the Bhagavad Gita, the bible, or any of the other ancient texts. All thought, no soul. It's impossible for him to love himself, or anyone else, because he sees everything as empty illusion. He has trapped himself in a conceptual puzzle with no way out, because his spiritual eyes are closed. Your question is the path to your own insight. Realizing that we are all one is a good first step, but don't fail to understand the Atman.

Holiness has the same etymology as wholeness. It is realizing the divinity in everything and everyone. Primitive mystics had sacred circles of ancient trees, where they would meet to honor the holiness of their connection with nature. There is a lack of holiness in much of modern "enlightenment". They are so lost in pursuing truth that they have forgotten the spirit that defines us and gives life meaning.

#rodney king.

If to enjoy even an enjoyable present we must have the assurance of a happy future, we are “crying for the moon.” We have no such assurance. The best predictions are still matters of probability rather than certainty, and to the best of our knowledge every one of us is going to suffer and die. If, then, we cannot live happily without an assured future, we are certainly not adapted to living in a finite world where, despite the best plans, accidents will happen, and where death comes at the end. Seeking security in insecurity is insanity.

For me, healing happens by containing Consciousness. The light inside of us begins to dissolve the threads of our suffering. I have realized how life has shaped this personality, deeply in ways I never knew before. When you embrace the inner light, and allow this polishing of your personality, you realize yourself as absolute love. I see my young self with joy now. It feels integrating. I don't know if this helps, but thank you for the question.

That is more of an astrophysical question, but yes, if negative mass/energy is real (physics does not preclude this possibility), a person could theoretically step into one entangled wormhole, and emerge at the mouth of the other entangled wormhole, at a time that is earlier than when he entered the first wormhole. Science has already confirmed the relativity of spacetime. It is not ultimate reality, so all kinds of craziness is possible within the spacetime dream.

Surrender the attachment to your thoughts. They are not you.

@Forestluv Synchronicity! ⚡

@BlackMaze Thank you for asking Conscious questions ?

Have you read The Wisdom of Insecurity by Alan Watts? The need for certainty is what keeps most humans chasing the holy grail, when it was within them the whole time. Embracing uncertainty is the ultimate liberation.

@BlackMaze Good questions that you will have to answer for yourself. For me, enlightenment is the human dharma, so yes, I consider it to be important. So what if life is just a game? It is still a divine game. Why not play with unconditional love, rather than cause yourself and others to suffer?

To navigate life, it is necessary to think in terms of little "you", even when you realize that You are already everything.

@BlackMaze There you go trusting your intuition again As long as enlightenment is a goal to be reached, it will remain out of your grasp. Enlightenment is nothing more than waking up to the reality that you are already perfectly enlightened, or more directly, that you are light.

It comes down to conscious intent. When our conscious intent is pure, we don't overidentify with any particular perspective, and thus are free to realize the panoramic beauty of all perspectives. When our conscious intent is impure, we overidentify with a fixed perspective, and become bound by it.

@BlackMaze I believe for most people, enlightenment is a long journey of mini-awakenings, until the light finally sticks. Tolle is an exception, where his suffering was great enough that it catastrophically woke him up. In any case, enlightenment is a realization, not an achievement. Tolle helped me a lot, but it still took years and a lot of suffering, before I directly realized what he was teaching. As he likes to say, we only suffer until we realize that we no longer need to suffer.

Peace, brother. Glad to hear you have tasted the goodness of the Gita. You have realized a lot of truth, but...stay on your meds too Who would have guessed that Joseph was right about everything being made of intelligence?

@SourceCodo ?? Consciously reading, and being, the Gita is pure enlightenment.

Enlightenment is exactly what it means: the state of being filled with light.

This makes me reconsider the value of honest criticism. It's a fine line to walk, between speaking your own truth, and judging someone else for being wrong. As long as the feedback is sincere, it can be constructive. Maybe people like Zak would benefit from more open discussion like this. @AdeptusPsychonautica I have never followed Leo's teachings, and have only seen 3 of his videos. Still, I'm grateful for the forum he has provided, and I have learned from the people here. I get the cult concern, but not all of us are drinking the Kool-Aid

@SourceCodo Thank you for your kind words. I hear you, on the inherent divinity and respect for every form. Sorry for all the words here, but it is something that needs to be said. When people first awaken to non-dual reality, it is easy to dismiss themselves, and the entire dream world, as an empty illusion. For them, it is like falling into a void. There is no meaning. I call it a conceptual awakening, where they realize who they are not, but have not yet realized entirely who they are. The spiritual awakening is when the third eye opens, and you see Consciousness infusing itself in every form. Here is the Mystery that is directly realized, but the mind cannot comprehend. We are not only dreamless Consciousness, but we are also Consciousness itself, within the dream. Even the dream is sacred, in this sense. It needn't be taken too seriously, but also it deserves to be honored. The Bhagavad Gita points to this over and over again. God is not only the creator of the universe, but God infuses and expresses itself, throughout the universe. God is not only what is, but God is also what is not: Lord of the gods, you are the abode of the universe. Changeless, you are what is and what is not, and beyond the duality of existence and nonexistence. You are the first among the gods, the timeless spirit, the resting place of all beings. You are the knower and the thing which is known. You are the final home; with your infinite form you pervade the cosmos. When I first came to the forum, I engaged in some god battles with people who saw this differently. I have learned that there is no value in these feuds, only the risk of invoking ego. How typical of the ego to claim that it is more woke than someone else ? Pointing out our differences rarely, if ever, leads to enlightenment. Each journey is worthy of respect. At least, that is how I see it @Arcangelo ?

@Red-White-Light ??

Fair enough. For me, enlightenment is the permanent state of seeing spiritually. The acuity of vision comes and goes, based on what is needed, but the eyes are always open.