Moksha

Eternity is not endlessness. It is timelessness. There is no suffering outside of time.

You're assuming I was referring to you. I wasn't. On what you actually did say, I was referring to this: Reincarnation is a belief.

Disprove this: Everything is inevitable.

The ego will do anything to avoid death, including posing as an enlightened being. If you have an identity around being enlightened, that is different from actually being enlightened.

^^^ Belief.

So the Buddha taught the end of suffering but didn't believe the end of suffering?

The human form is beautiful. I was referring to dissolving the conditioning that comes along with it.

Even then, he believed in suffering and the end of suffering.

Agree 100%. Enlightenment isn't just realizing who you are, it is integrating who you are with the human form. Or put another way it is disintegrating the human form.

Yes, I have a belief in beliefs. Which is my point. You can't not believe anything. Even not believing is a belief. The idea that there aren't specific people is also a belief. In the ultimate sense, I agree with you; but it's a belief for me too.

Letting go of the causes for our suffering is what enlightenment actually is. Even enlightened people still have beliefs though. Can you name anyone that is 100% free of beliefs and isn't dead?

Absolute open-mindedness requires letting go of everything. Leo talked about testing, but testing is based on underlying assumptions about reality. If you let go even of the assumptions, everything is equally plausible. Why would you want to do that? The idea that absolute open-mindedness is desirable is a value judgment in its own right. You can't avoid making assumptions. At best, the most open-minded can choose the assumptions that are the foundation for testing their beliefs.

Love vs. selfishness. The ego wants to feel special, which is what selfishness is. Fear is the fuel the ego uses to feed itself, but the core of it is selfishness.

I've heard the opposite. Enlightened people are masters at not falling for the illusions of the mind. Eckhart Tolle talks about a guru that took a handful of drugs, and while he may have had a lot of images flashing through his brain, his internal reality was so centered that nothing changed.

I don't believe it's even possible to change yourself. Telling yourself that you can change yourself is another ego trap. We are what happens to us. This thread is happening to you right now. Maybe you will change because of it.

@Muhammad Jawad Who is happier than a child? Consciousness isn't attached to anything, which is a blessing and a curse. It doesn't suffer, but it also doesn't sense. Perhaps this is why it creates the world of form:

@Muhammad Jawad Why did you create Maya in the first place? There is playfulness in manifestation. You enjoy the game of discovering yourself. You love creating a multitude of forms, and manifesting yourself through them. That is your ultimate purpose.

The Bhagavad Gita and other scriptures are full of teachings that point both to the nature of God and to the path to God. If by Absolute you are referring to Ultimate Realty, any attempt to describe it is bound to failure. It is beyond the capacity of the human mind to comprehend. The ancient Hindus referred to it as simply Tat, which means "That". That is why it is called the Mystery.

@RedLine I tried scrolling through the video to find what you're referring to, but I'm guessing it's a visual pointer. Concepts can arise from any of the senses, but they are still just concepts. Which doesn't disqualify them from being pointers. Even the tree in my backyard is a conceptual image in my brain, yet it points me to the deep I. Every teaching is, and only can be, conceptual. It can point at ultimate reality but by definition it cannot be ultimate reality. That doesn't make it useless.

@Nahm Spot on and beautifully said.

Eckhart Tolle talks about a guru that was given a psychedelic drug, then another, then another. Nothing changed.

Suffer.

Space. I look for space in my thoughts, and if there is none I try to notice it back in.

@RedLine Fair point, but the same could be said of all spiritual teaching. All lessons are only conceptual pointers to This.

I strongly support getting an education. If you do it right, learning will round out your perspectives and help prepare you for success. It's not worth mortgaging your life, though. The most important lessons can be learned, tuition free.