Moksha

Thank you @Corpus, I had forgotten you are a doctor. ? It only started happening this year. It is entirely possible that it is unrelated to my spirituality, but I feel it is related, due to the synchronicity.

@Corpus It feels like it is always there, on the edge, but it mostly only happens when I'm focused. It's not a mental concentration state at all, I'm not thinking about anything, but more of a spiritual flow.

@The0Self Thanks bro, I just now tried it. I saw this beautiful shadow face open its eyes and look back at me.

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@Someone here Ain't it though?

@Corpus It is mostly my upper eyelids, but also my lower eyelids, and it is always both eyes. It also sometimes happens in my jaw, like my teeth are slightly chattering, and in my hands. Weird, but not unpleasant.

I've been seeing it like this. Consciousness is always free and Self-aware, but it likes to experience the illusion of movement and time by draping tiny parts of itself with dream forms. The beginning of that draping state is creation. When the tidbit gets entangled in the dream form, that is ego. When Consciousness gives itself a shake, the tidbit is still draped in the dream form, but gets loosened. That loosening is awakening. The enduring state of that loosening is enlightenment. The undraping of the tidbit is uncreation, or ultimate realization. It's the infinite game of creation that Consciousness plays ?.

@Swarnim Sweet synchronicity ? I have been reading about vibrational frequencies, and am wondering if there is a correlation with a person's state of Consciousness and their physicality.

Thank you, @seeking_brilliance, I will check in with him. I'm curious for any of you that have tried psychedelics, has this happened to you?

@abrakamowse @seeking_brilliance @SirVladimir ? Damn, I love this place and these people.

Now you are waking up

Eastern wisdom is what brought me to heaven I have a Christian background, and I had glimpses of heaven then, too. My beliefs were a sort of bondage, and they tried to make heaven conditional. The only thing that dies is the thing that never lived in the first place.

Consciousness is never apart from itself. It is an infipus. It plays the separation game of inserting a tentacle into a form, and wiggling it around for a while. Sometimes the tentacle gets disentangled, still within the form, and Consciousness realizes the integrity that was always there. That is the illusion of enlightenment.

@SirVladimir inspired me to this: Unwinding through the labyrinth of Versailles, Seeking its path to nowhere, Hearing its moonlight music, Tracing the pattern of its leaves, Following its wending way, Its sweet hedges caress me out of myself, And toss me back into the sky.

@Claymoree It isn't uncomfortable at all, I just have never experienced it until after my "experience". I do feel a higher energy state overall, so that could help explain it. @seeking_brilliance That is exactly what it feels like, but it's more like it is always there on the periphery, waiting for me to focus on it. Do you have any links, or have you experienced it personally, if you don't mind me asking? @The0Self I think REM was a mislabel, since it is only my eyelids that move and there's no feeling of paralysis. I can easily open or close my eyes when it happens. Dreams are a whole other topic, but that is something else that is weird. I used to have dreams a lot as a kid, that seemed to have meaning. Then I went for years without any significant dreams. This week, I had two dreams on Monday and Tuesday that had enormous significance. ?all of you, thank you for letting me talk about this.

Thanks man, have never heard of hypnogonic visions but I will check it out. I don't see visions though, it is more like a pure spiritual channeling, if that makes any sense. You have this experience of light moving through you. Do your eyelids move when it happens?

@Claymoree I'm focusing spiritually. It happens mostly when I am meditating with my eyes closed, but also when my eyes are open, and I am internally focused. It is my eyelids twitching, not my actual eyes. When it happens with my eyes open, my vision is still fine, it's just that my eyelids are twitching. @Osaid Have been doing more research since your post, and it sounds more like myokymia than nystagmus, since it is only my eyelids that are moving.

Thank you, @Osaid. I can't do it at will, it just tends to happen when I am spiritually engaged. For people that have nystagmus, is it a constant thing or can it be triggered? Next time I get my eyes checked, I will ask my optometrist about it. Just did a quick search on nystagmus, and I don't have any of the typical associated problems, like sensitivity to light, dizziness, or vision problems. Also, if I am just sitting here without thinking, it doesn't happen. It's only when I am meditating or connecting spiritually. Maybe my subconscious ego thinks it is a "guru thing" and makes me do it. I wouldn't put it past me If anyone else has any experiences or insights, I would appreciate it.

Funny thing about enlightenment is that you have to realize there is no you to become enlightened, so who is getting enlightened again?

@Shin There is no bear.

It means that you are what is left when every "not this, not that" is discarded. You are Tat.

@PurpleTree Buddha is the ?.

@SirVladimir Walking in the Vatican Gardens, hearing its moonlight music, can you feel its hedges caress you out of yourself, and toss you back into the sky? ?

Nothing like the scent of clean air ?

Great example of why the Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The instant you name it, you create a false duality, which it cannot be. The ancient gurus called it Tat, which literally means, "That". Even Tat is a name, which cannot be the eternal Tao.