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My Leo (who I actually lived with! It was so much fun) is a lot more into , for lack of a better word, the occult stuff . He's definitely more "vibes" than me whereas I gravitate to the more logical side , hence why I'm here and he's reading astrological charts haha

@Jordan of the Shire @kavaris you two seem to be describing morphic resonance . The memory of past actions in a specific place condition future expressions. ---- I wasn't saying Buddhism was wrong in fact Zen Buddhism has the One Mind, Unborn Mind, Dharmakaya etc, rather just commenting on the fact that despite having this doctrine I almost never hear my zen teachers talk about it and also not much about love or intelligence . But I think I got a satisfactory answer as to why they don't talk about it much .

Yeah my friend Leo watched Leo actualize on actualized.org but took a different path to self actualization.

Support groups , sangha , meditation , making and consuming music , hikes

Indeed. I think they got much right , problem is exclusively clinging to 2500 year old teachings without an appreciation for, ironically, the ever changing nature and evolution of teaching, not getting with the times and psychedelics etc. But some would disagree , saying if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Some Buddhist texts are better than others. This is from the lankavatara sutra, "all such Notions as causation, succession, atoms, primary elements that make up the personality, personal Soul, Supreme Spirit, Sovereign God, creator are all figments of imagination and manifestations of the Mind itself." In this case I don't see a contradiction between what Leo teaches and Buddhism, even if it ostensibly denies God, Mind in this case is the God that Leo refers to and God in this quote would be the dualistic God of religion . That's my two cents anyway. Still not seeing much about intelligence or love tho. https://youtu.be/26PCMpKc1nw?si=YJUhd9-kDYqo311U Funny how Buddhists discourage thinking , I wonder how the people were able to write this sutra ?

To be fair I don't think you can trip your way to understanding God either. I took Leo's comment as meaning you can't meditate (or trip) and understand God without doing some thinking. Now, the Buddhists do understand that thinking can't be all you do. I see three pillars -contemplation / thinking -daily meditation -psychedelic breakthroughs Don't forget that lots of people trip every year. Many of them have a cool experience, but that's just it, a cool experience.

I'm gonna keep going because I want to deal with my suffering . But I'll keep taking about God on actualized.org. Thanks guys.

That's why I don't take acid or shrooms without a sitter. Dmt ill happily do by myself

Maybe I'm getting stuck on language . But if someone uses words I consider vague, as Zen people are apt to do, I become suspicious . Words like "Suchness" "Oneness" etc don't satisfy me the way that God does, this could reflect either a difference in depth of understanding or simply a difference in language . Nevertheless I find myself drawn to it because it's challenging my ideas of what awakening means .

I'm like an addict I need more . 😭😂

@Joseph Maynor @Jodistrict True but there could be someone who never fully awakens bc they weren't told . Also did someone delete their comment ? It was really good

@kavaris science no doubt will embrace idealism, but that's not the core issue . Even in embracing idealism, they'll still be wedded to conceptual abstractions and imaginary mathematical objects. They'll just say "but these abstract mathematical objects are conscious," without dealing with the core issue .

Intellectuals, especially physicists, are woo. That's the rule not the exception . If you believe abstract math are literally real and pray to invisible quantum fields you can never directly encounter you're a magician.

I'm one of those genetic freaks, sort of. Altho for me it's more psychosis than awakening. But it's a blurry line, I just know I need to stay away from it.

To be fair , my understanding of what is so called standard nonduality is primarily influenced by actualized.org, so maybe I'm taking some things for granted that a lot of practioners don't .

Hell yeah ! Sexy goblins!

david hart sounds a lot like Leo if Leo did his philosophy phd instead of psychedelics

"Why alex o Connor believes there's a 45% chance of God." that title just made me chuckle

he's ragebaiting you bro it's chill. you guys are funny, like an old senile couple

that's what I meant. this thread led me to evaluating my history and realize I have no excuse for having low self esteem.

@Yimpa you dog @Inliytened1 this thread has been really helpful.

In a church parking lot.

My thought process has been. I'm gonna share this crazy thing that happened. Initially I'm like yeah I probably did the right thing. Then @LordFall makes the comment about not having a roof so I'm thinking shit maybe I was selfish, but then @Carl-Richard makes a joke that leads me back to thinking maybe I did the right thing. This is what kills my game.