SamC

Amen to that. You're wise man, I like your way of looking at these things. That's why I followed you just now Thanks for your help (:

I sometimes realize this, but it doesn't last that long. Becoming more concious is in other words the way to go - not because I have to become conscious in order to be peaceful, but realize that I am always at peace no matter what happens. Self help is good though, the only thing is I need to pull more towards self love/ acceptance. Life is a great balancing act

Thanks for this, interesting how you describe that the brain starts caring after a while. It makes sense. Wow Yes, that's exactly right, thanks for your help man!

Wow, of corse. I thought about including myself but it felt egotistical. It really shows my problem, I don't wanna be egotistical in putting my own needs before someone's else. I am aware of what I should do, but I still don't wanna do it cause I care what people think. Thanks for that bro, cheers. It really got me thinking aswell.

Yeah I know. This self hatred is a social conditioning from my dad. It's really hard to do though, but something I need to do. Do you know any good ways to do this or is it just something to visualize?

Yeah, I am. It's super challenging though cause it takes time. I have always hated myself, it's just that I see the iceberg now more clearly because I am more aware. Ego backlashes is an interesting thing aswell lmao 1: 5meo - leo, aka Leo gura ((; 2: Sadguhuru 3: Jeff cavaliere ( atleanx) ( besides that, my parents and closest friends, I'm 19)

Thanks for your response bro. I appreciate you. Yeah I 100% agree. Will try it for an extended period of time!

Not nearly enough. In fact - I feel like a victim, like that it's impossible to even change that voice. I know it's bullshit, but I think that's the reason why I haven't done it. This is the biggest thing I think. I am but I am getting better at being authentic day by day. I have started to set boundaries and stand up for myself more the last couple of months. It's hard though but It's getting better.

It's hard af, but that's a given in this work. Thanks for the words of encouragement bro?

This seems so weird to me, Idk why..-but I will try it! I don't know shit, so maybe this is a life savior. What's the theory behind it? What's your experience with it? I will try it even if it isn't any theory btw, I am simply curious.

Yup, limiting beliefs is a big one. Interesting with positive affirmations. I am sceptical about them to be honest, but I am really openminded to try. Have you been helped by them? ( I will try it regardless, just curios about your experience with them).

Thanks for your tips. I will start to read????

Neediness = A big inseceure ego which desperetly needs something. This, from what I have been able to understand is when there is a need, that the narcisitic ego thinks it needs desperetly. It honestly becomes like an addiction to X thing beaucse the ego feels like it needs to build itself up to be secure. ( because than the ideal identify doesn't feel as threatened) Neediness could therefor be considered as a scarcity mindset, due to fear of emptyness ( and also fomo, aka fear of missing out, cause that leads to emptiness because the need is not getting meet if it's not getting X.) This because the ego feels like it is not enough or need something to feel secaure. Neediness is in other words a defense mekanism to be able to avoid emptyness, cause it feels like it is not fullfilled on it's own. Furthur more, Neediness, obsession, OCD and perfektionism go hand in hand. Neediness It's all about trying to manipulate and control the environment to avoid not getting the thing or the outcome, that the ego needs to feel secure.

Tell us about all your habits ( aka mundane life)

It's called bullshit Tell that to the Simps, it's not how It neccerly works. If the guy is super low quality -he will get deep love through the friendzone. Cause you can have deep love for the guy friend who you rejected right? I mean true love is just about connection (;

We are not talking about friendships or unconditional love for people. We are taking about " real deep love" that leads to a romance that makes deep real love possible. Connection in the sense," I love this guy so much, I wanna spend my whole life with him" is not unconditional love. If you feel like that it's because he can give VALUE to you and your life ( security, he loves you like you are, honesty + some sort of attractive qualitys ( looks, status, humor ect). Any shy nerd guy can give you the first, but you want both. Why? because you want to survive.

This is exactly what I mean..girls don't understand guys stuggles. If a guy is not valueble, no " true love" can exsist. That's why PAU exists, because guys who is not high value needs to man the fuck up and take responsaibility for their future. It's not some sort of trancending love why you like a guy, it is because of the feelings a high quality guy gives you. You're the one that is in a paradigm lock - attraction creates because of survival aspects, not "true love". That's not a perspective, that is the truth.

True. Of corse a lot of guys struggle to see it - that's true with being able to see anything as it is in the world. Your point is that it is all self biases and victimhood that creates this dynamic of selfishness from both sides. Yeah it might be the case, but on the other hand, woman don't know what they are attracted too while guys do. Guys are more visual and logical and girls more emotional. Guys know what gets them attracted, girls don't. This maybe * big maybe* means that guys are able to understand the challenges that girls face logically better, because they see all the girls their are not attracted to, cause they know what they want and not want ( being able to empathize better if they really fucking try) Woman are more emotional and don't know this, and that's maybe why they struggle more. Cause the attraction is in a sense even more subconscious and theirfor they don't see how hard attraction can be for a low value guy, cause they don't know what it takes( but guys understand that ugly woman have it super hard logically).. Maybe in other words woman is not to designed to be able to empathise to the problems men face in attraction... Or maybe I am totaly wrong and it's all biases, I am open to both possibilities. What do you think Leo?@Leo Gura

Everytime I bring up the challenges for guys in daiting to my female friends, they are unable to understand my point of view. They either say I am wrong, that it is the woman that is always is the one that is left or that I am participating in this egoistic game when I explain to them how to attract a female. They can't understand that guys struggle too, they only see the guy they are in love with but leave them. My question is therefor, why is that woman seems to be blind to the the challenges that guys face? Is it because woman haven't learned to sympathize to the guys that struggle with this or are they stuck in there own self biases? Could it be that It even is biological and if so - is it ever possible for a woman to learn to step out from her perspective and into a man's perspective? What do you think? *** NOTE **** I am not saying men are victims to womans lack of understanding at all, it is what it is. How Attraction and the interaction between the sexes works, is fine. All I am wondering is, if it's ever possible for females to understand men's struggles, or if its by design impossible. @Leo Gura

Yeah it might be the case. Sometimes it feels like they struggle even more though but maybe not. It might be my biases, that's fucking my perception big time and if that's the case, its fine. It's like they don't understand the game of attraction and theirfor not the struggle cause they don't understand what attracts them themselves. I understand what attracts me... hot girls and because that's more logical I maybe be able to understand the struggles better. ** big maybe** Idk

Yeah, I totally get it. I don't expect them too, I am simply trying to understand why that is, and I think it's because they simple don't give a fuck. The question is if they are able to see it if they wanted too, or if it's impossible because of biology? It seems like they just can't step into the shoes of a man, but a man can do it easier for them. It feels like it, but it might be wrong. I might be deluded, men may struggle just as hard to do it, I am still figuring it out.

Yeah for sure. I buy that. At First I thought girls struggle to see the problems guy's face because they just can't, because it's biologically impossible for them but I think it more as to do with self biases, like my own inability to see it. ( cause we live in two different worlds) I still feel like guys understand their world better tough.. like I get it. Rape, sexual abuse, fear, heartbroken from players ect.. In many cases its must be a lot lot lot worse. Maybe there is some glinpse of truth towards that they have a harder time seeing its, but if that's the case it's not the whole truth, you know what I Mean? Or maybe I am deluded af, it's okey either way. If I look withing myself, I see that I project my unconcious victim mentality and that's why I even wrote this thread. That said, it still feel like I atleast got a point, in all the selfishness and biases... or maybe not, what do you think Leo? @Leo Gura

Fair, but there are concious woman who is not masculine at all who can understand men's problem. They don't have to be masculine to understand it - just be able to take on multiple perspectives. For sure, but that doesn't mean they hate men. Quite the opposite - they as you said only hang out with him ( if the relationship is codependent). Yeah of corse, there is a lot of single woman out there. I don't know if that means that they struggle with men though. Yeah, it can if it's unhealthy, but a lot hang out with friends aswell.

Lmao, I always read " pretty India". Got it, have a nice day preety(:

For sure I don't think so. The most concious ones may be able to understand. Maybe but I am not sure still. This I don't buy though. Most girls love their boyfriends and have no problem with men. We wanna hang out with our palls, just like they like to hang out with their girl gang gang ((;