Leo Nordin

@Breakingthewall but what is the meaning of going deeper into the truth of existence?

@James123 Ohh, I edited my questions anyways this was the exact answer I looked for, much appreciated. I got it.

I tried to simulate this experiencially right now. Being is just not creating anything? Then dreaming is creating. And the purpose of being is to create? And creating is dividing or exploring myself? And when consciousness divides itself from being then it can choose what to further create?

@Juliano Zn you don't need to take phycedelics. Just try to be present. Then you won't suffer memory or imagination, future or the past. Pay some attention on your body, to always keep it at ease. Then what is fear, nothing, because you don't have any way to identify it. What you are doing with your mind test to let it happen, don't fight emotions or thoughts. Just be present. This is one way, that's some of my ways I moved beyond fear.

That's exactly what I meant? Yes, it's from this I assume myself to have awakened. I don't know anything other than the now but still I talk. What you want to call all other than what we know I do not know. Ego and truth perhaps.

Yes you know it❤️ "It’s more the realization, or, self recognition of this truth" Just for clarity for readers this doesn't mean that it's the realization or self recognition of this truth in the form of a thought or similar. You realise and recognise it in the sense of by being this truth.

Lol I get what you are saying. All we are writing here is just a thought, without thought we couldn't use language. Death seems to be the byproduct of enlightenment. See one might have experienced enlightenment, but to be enlightened or have achieved enlightenent is another thing. What will be the death for me I do not know. I only know life. ?

Lol the fuck am I reading. Not giving a fuck about society yes in the sense they shouldn't determine your experience of life and fear isn't really something worth living with. But to be after awakening absolutely involved with society is out of outmost importance. It's the most selfless thing you can do.

Yes I don't know why everyone on this forum calls enlightenment the same as what awakening is. Enlightenment if achieved will be your death, isn't it so? Your energies become more and more vibrant untill you leave the body.

Haha u all talking about "enlightenment" or awakening. Yet none of us are in that state right now, you all should know that. Also when I first realised it was so easy to get into these states of being. I willingly took a great journey into ego after awakening and then apperantly it's for some reason now difficult to do the thing that was the easiest before. This clearly showed me how enlightenment is only difficult when you are not ready for it. Because when you are ready you will figure it out easily so we don't need to talk about it and how to do it so much. Instead we could talk about how work upon yourself. Also before one is ready to do these life altering things if you are mentally ready to experience awakened states of being continously then your external situations must be prepared before hand, isn't it so? So to preparing your external situations before awakening could be very beneficiary. This is why I am in states of much ego right now, otherwise I wouldn't be using my mind in this manner that I am. To begin with I don't now how one would manage work if they were to follow their highest self. In many jobs you need to be detached from life to do it well. So you should have saved some money to take a journey, where after awakening you could work towards life purpose and then finance yourself through that. This post I made is 100% from my own experience, I don't copy something I've learnt from gurus or actualized because I only remember that which I have life experience of and there is no guarantee I speak the truth. Because I am not living in such states like buddha did, I've only just recently awakened and as said am using ego right now to secure some of my external situations.

I get what ur saying. Everyone should also know ego is necessary for survival. This post was good advice for those that need it but not really asked for in the thread...

I've just gone down in fewer and its effect on energy is astonishing. First it removed my identification and connection with body, mind and energy. With that there was not much thought, feelings and my senses had gone down. Energy was also very limited and the production of energy low. Would it even be possible to be blissful in such a state. Yes being fully present is even easier but there are not much of any emotion and there's a headache to make the experience of no joy. In the end does your experience of life all come down to energy? Can't you experience something more in such a depressive state? For example what if someone had this chronically and wouldn't be able to cure it. What would be the meaning of their life when there is no energy to do so much as feel a little bit of joy? I've heard and experienced not to give attention to strengthen the consequence of a state of being which can be an emotion (ecstasy). But instead give attention or strengthen the state which causes that emotion. So I easily let go of my mind and body but no energy formed to bring me to such states of blissful body. Is there something I did wrong? Or is this just the cause of invading viruses. I've claimed that I did awaken not long ago when I could just let go of ego and immerse myself in a life altering experience. But the experience wasn't anything particular now in sickness, everything just became very still, but what is the meaning of such a boring experience where there's not enough energy for much consciousness or attention to be used. I wonder what is even the meaning of being on this world. If not to serve the world, because what else would you do when every other aspect of life is fulfilled. Then it doesn't really matter if I experience bliss body or not during sickness. Because bliss bodys function normally would be to continue this life purpose to a higher capability. And can be continued in sickness as well just not to the same extent that your being as able to the when you are healthy. Is this how it works? Btw I always get answers from within so I am not seeking anything from my questions particularly. Many on this forum takes my questions as things I can't or haven't answered for myself already and therefore belittles my knowledge or spiritual advancement, please aldo don't be too analytical of my sentences. They are written in a way for a reason. Thank you! Together we share knowledge/insights with the furum and help each others??

Why create life in the first place... Lol it's not fair to ask these questions when I am not fully present. Also I am not sick anymore, not energy wise. I am half a life right now, before I was a full life during some meditation but it wouldn't compare to the life floating in me right now even as half a life. I create life because I want to do something on this world okay, lol. Thanks for the text but it isn't relevant because we only have and can create a certain amount of energy or life? If situations creates situations where energy is very low then much cannot be done, isn't it so. Still what u say is true. In my situation there was nowhere for life to be vibrant, the life was just too weak.

@Moksha yes presence is the point. The question is what you do with this presence. Like an old dying man, would you choose to go away in quietness or would you choose to leave some messages with you during this time. Also someone with cancer suffering without the energy to do much would be present but I actually believe boredom might appear. Like what's the point of a lifeless life, just sitting down not doing anything only being alive and present. Or actually doing something for the world with this little life that you have got. Has someone got the knowledge about theese things. For example the ways of gurus or yogis? Getting information on what they do during sickness-depression I couldn't easily. Information on those that didn't pass in ecstasy but in fading energy could be more available?

I believe I awakened not too long ago and it changed everything. Though I with reasons choose willingly to take one last journey into great ego for a couple of weeks. First it was easy to sit down with ecstasy anytime after awakening but now I sense how my entire being wants to go out and help the world. Like a guru does, though I try to sit down in ecstasy I feel joy but my consciousness telles me to go off and do certain things. Even though my self awareness I can't really tell if this is because of my time in ego or because of my advancement. I wonder if this is how gurus are motivated to do their work. That it is not only an intellectual choice but your entire being chose it fully and completely. Meditating into ecstasy to and go deeper into enlightenment didn't seem difficult before, but now there's a feeling of that I am here for a bigger meaning, to serve the world. Then when I am ready I will one day go deep into ecstasy and leave this body at the time of enlightenment. My mind wants to believe that I should be able to just be in ecstasy alone by myself, but following what I think to remember the same procedure of letting go of all ego/suffering. My being wants to move and do things, is this normal for awakened people? I would gladly appreciate any knowledge you might have on this? So the main question is, what drives awakened people to do what they do in the sense that, Is it an intellectual choice or is there more to it as I might be experiencing?

@mmKay ❤️thank you.

@Member I can't speak English well and it would take a lot of work filming myself and editing. It's not really my thing. Blogging also would take too much time, I'm Swedish my English is not so good even though I can write pretty well. But as general advice for other readers, thank you!?

Your mind is not to choose. Your being/your consciousness/your highest self or what you want to call "being yourself" is the one choosing. First lets take enlightenment, if you let go too deep into ecstasy and vibrance of life you will leave the body (die), enlightenment will mean death. I quess awakened beings might be a better word if we want to talk about this. This being will to the highest amount appropriate follow their higher or true self. What it chooses to do on this world before it leaves it could be called life purpose. It's the purpose of your entire being before leaving this world and attaining enlightenment. Or rather it's not the purpose of your being but the specific way your consciousness choose to work towards it which is referred to as life purpose. The purpose will be a goal much higher than yourself and will not be achieved in a lifetime. In a way life purpose might be the opposite of enlightenment. I believe it is the only thing that keeps awakened people that follows their souls from attaining enlightenment. The highest goal is being yourself and the end of the journey is enlightenment. Many on here though believes enlightenment to be awakening as in understanding reality. It is a word that is pretty disrupted, there are many many flaws to language. Especially when we talk about life. You wouldn't be able to guess how many times my choice of words on here has created unnecessary discussions. I hope I used my mind well this time to explain something about life.

I don't need ecstasy nor enlightenment. Ecstasy will anyways come from time to time. It was not long ago I awakened so I've now realised some things since then. Though enlightenment will be my death when I choose it. My consciousness will choose what it chooses, I (the mind) am not to interfere if it's not necessary. Because of my early awakening experience I did not eat nor do anything, I just went deeper into life. I thought that was all my consciousness wanted to do and that all other activity was either for my survival or selflessness for the world. Now though, I believe I am experiencing the next phase. My whole being wants not to sit in ecstasy or go for enlightenment but do certain things which I (the mind and body) haven't subcome to so I don't now what it is. I am using my mind to control the highest self if you want to call it that. Before I let go I first need to use my mind independently at least this last time to ensure some kind lf comfort when I let go. By building a van, whether I will give up the van that I am to build I don't know. When the higher self chooses it will do what it wants to do at all times, but some mind is necessary, like clothing yourself or eating. @mmKay I intended vanlife. Whether I will give up my van at one point I don't now. It might be a hazzle to take with me everywhere, I heard of someone sleeping on their motorcycle, that might do what do I know.

@Rilles Sweden is awsome. I just meant that equality is a given and we don't care about minor details such as if a street light have a couple or only a guy or a girl or whatever. There are a lot of gay but particularly lesbian girls where I have been. About 10-20% of the girls in the different classes I have been in. So that's good to hear I guess.

@Carl-Richard Whatever we post on here anyone can read. Those not too familiar with spirituality and similar could be brainwashed by "stupid" quotes. Or the things that we say on here. It's like would you really tell all those quotes Nahm quoted to a friend or large group who is unfamiliar with self development and especially spirituality. If I told my friend you have to break your heart until it opens up he could very easily get the wrong idea. Isn't it better to at least follow up the quote with the meaning or reason behind it. Who you are writing to on here may be many potential readers. With advice presented in a way that suits the most then people could learn a lot from our discussions etc. For exaple I construct my sentences to fit spiritual people as well but then could loose the common audience on the way. Normally it is good to explain things in a way that most would grasp. Then this is a problem the other way around too. Because many on here are overly analytical, the simpler/better I believe I make it the more critique I get and it has taken over this and 2 other of my threads.

Interesting, thank you? why didn't anyone tell me this before. This is almost the first time I have learned anything on this forum that I asked for. Much appreciated. Aww, so cute. @SoonHei lol, it's destiny.

Yeah of course? I am sharing the experience with you and would like to see if there is some good input. It's just that pior awakening I thought awakened people choose to do good because by having to use willpower. Then now I really think that the truth might be that their and my whole existence seeks doing something more for this world. Early awakening I would gladly just sit blissed out for long times. Now there's the want to do something more during my time on this world. The reason I am skeptical of this new experience is because action takes energy. And earlier I conserved didn't use my energy to reach higher fulfillment. Interesting.. I will share the journey with you all. I just realised, my other thread on how awakened people divide meditation and working for the universe. If doing activity based on your minds choice only then you wouldn't be able to balance it well I dont think. That's why I made that thread. But if your whole consciousness strives to do it then your being creates the balance, now I can meditate again earlier I used ego to stop the will of "the world" which tried to make me do things. It was all about the choice of existence and I'll let existence do it's thing more and more now. What the world will turn around for the people around me. My friends, my family the whole society hasn't gotten any much of clues from me for what change I am about to bring on my lifestyle and what I do. Mohahahahahah lol.

It's easy, God is just three letters, or rather a picture in your mind of something. A fantasy maybe.

We in Sweden just want to earn as much money as you Norwegians. This inequality and same-sex stuff noone cares about except these adults that just hates on the society all the time.