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@Globalcollective Building a top phisique doesn't necessarly mean understanding consciousness better and doesn't make you more better. Why do you have this bias? He has is purpose as Leo has his, i don't see much difference here Transcended SD is debatible aswell. This JT also did shit ton of acid. Leo has never climed new discoveries. you can use this argument of every one on the internet basically. Not all enightened poeple feel the need to do that. Actually i would say that most like seclusion more, but these are the ones you don't see. Again, no solid ground to measure this. Frank is a woke m.fucker don't get me wrong, but this is a big misrapresentation and and generalization.

@WokeBlokeImmaginary means produced/made of mental processes that produce a structure "the hand" that can be broke down in other min-structures, that can in turn be broken down in other sub-structures and so on to infinity. Every object therefore is made of / created by an Infinite Principle that can be said to be at the baseless base of reality. Be ignorant of these processes and only looking at the "hand" led peple to believe in the materialistic paradigm ("There is a solid world indipendent of me, in which, I, as a separate entity am born into and that i interact with"). So Immaginary means created/produced/fabricated by/made of the Infinite Groundless Principle at the base. There is no material base. "material" can be deconstructed to infinity. It is just a mental structure As you can notice this is a duality as well, but for the sake of the discussion duality must be made. Ultimately form is infinity, Samsara is Nirvana, the notion of "creation" is itself illusory. @RMQualtrough not even light, brain and process are fundamental, they are them selves immagined/fabricated. You are creating this narrative.

@Godishere No fear in god's dimension. God doesn't even know the concept "alone". You'd have to believe to be a separate entity to just feel alone. This is only your Ego trying to project its own atribute on an hypothetical God.

@Globalcollective But what do you mean with "where is the action"? He teaches and manages this site. what should he do more than this, weight lift? Leo's purpose is infinite understanding of reality, something that goes beyond simply teaching. I'm not defending anyone here, i'm just letting you notice that yoy should be careful with your estimations.

@Globalcollective Keep in mind that you have more than 600 hours of tape about Leo, with this amount even Jesus would seam fallible. It is true that He has been open in the past about emboding his awakening. On the other hand you have a bunch of posts, some videos, even less podcasts. To little to determine how much this guy is actually awake, hence why i wouldn't be to quick to come to absolute certain conclusions.

@Globalcollective Wouldn't be so sure, i just know his critiques of Leo were mostly inconsistent. He was interviewed some months ago here: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-renaissance-of/tj-reeves-what-you-can-be-K6SQihqaZoF/ certainly an inspiring figure.

@ThePoint Leo literally has a video about it Throw the mask away and dump them. You'll feel alot better not having to carry the charade on. Also you will realize that it wont be as bed as you think, because chanses are that them as well are faking it and they'll never reach for you again after some time. You are basically holding to a fake persona. Shift from: what you think others axpect you to behave------------> to how you you acually want to behave Eventually you'll fing friend you actualli connect with.

The poeple annoyed by the fact that Leo gave his own twist and interpretation on SD should educate themselves on the history of science.

The idiocy of allowing civilians to own automatic riffles....

@Preety_India Leo has simply said that sometimes loving someone means make someone suffer for the moment so they can avoid a bigger suffering or receive a greater good. Let's you see a 3 yo kid with having fun running with scissors in their hands, what do you do? You stop him and take the scissors from him. This will make him suffer but actually you saved him from a bigger problem. This of course can be applied to adults as well. The dynamic of course changes if this becomes abuse. It is always move away from an abuser. With thet said, if a person in you life is mainly positive for you, you can still learn to accept their flaws and selfish acts, even when they hurt you.

@Vido We gotta define what is meant by "not existing": Not existing or not real mean created/fabricated/produced by Absolute truth. To say that something doesn't exist isn't to put a degenerative quality to it. "Not really existing" isn't worse, simply means not Pure, in relative terms. In relative terms the Ego doesn't really exist because it's a construct created within/by Absolute Truth. Construct is equal to Illusion. So in the Relative it is real as in it feels like real, since you are under the illusion of duality. In the Absolute realm there are no constructs. When you awaken you see through the illusions and the Ego cease to be a self evident "thing" and is recognized in its parts, all of whichretains all the qualities of God, even in day-to-day life. I hope that clear it up

This is true. The problem that prevent us from seeing it is the illusion that lies in the duality relative/absolute and part/whole. These distinction are made up by the discriminating mind. When illusion is dispelled, these divisions cease to exist. So yes a penny is as much infinite as Abolute Truth. In this case though, the penny cease to be just "a penny" if you know what i mean. The very notion of a normal penny is wrapped in illusion, where Truth is relatively absent. As we said above, you must keep in mind that even the hypothetical illusion produced by the ignorance of your Nature IS Truth itself. So, yes Truth is impertubable and only seems to vanish when we are inside the illusion What do you mean with truth that feels false? doubts and confusion come from the tendency of the Ego to make sense of an rationalize. Remembering what i wrote above: From the Absolute prospective, nothing, Truth is true within the illusion aswell. From the relative, we can speak of "levels" of illusion that makes us percieve as is God is showing to Us little by little. We can say that this levels are regulated by a series of universal laws and different energies with different dosages determine what level you're at But again, this is a rationalization that must be instrumental for the Ego to comprehend and go on. Notice that you can only use the word change in relation to 2 different "moments" in experience, with different qualities. And you make this distinciont form the POV of your sober state. But when experience is unified and duality disappear where does the notion of change go?

I was taking him as an example of what it think a armonious Full Awakening can look like produce. Of course i would't set him as an axpectation haha. I'm just open to the possibility that if someone has a severe illness and existencially suffer from it, MAYBE is not fully awakened @Leo GuraNone of what i've said denies an involution of consciousness I would agree that that God can go back to sleep. What i'm sensing is that while spychedelics can give you a God Realization still this doesn't translate in the complete eradication of the tendency of God to stick to the Ego as a means to experience it self in day to day life, with the Suffering that follows all of that. I agree that God realization can come indipendently of the state of body and mind, but i think a trained mind and body are needed to sustain a Sahaja Samadhi in day to day life, otherwise certain tendecies and attachments reform and you are back in a state of craving and suffering. Lol i love your style Certianly many teachers overestimate themselves. I appreciate your honesty and your answers.

@Leo Gura How is it indipendent when suffering derive from the identification with the mind-body structure and all that comes with that? I just don't see how full Liberation ( not a cheap spiritual experience) can coexist with Suffering. They seem to be opposite by definition. Would you say that the psycological system of an individual can not full catch up yet with a Full Realization? But how can it be a Full Realization then? Are the Liberation(in Vedantic terms) and God Realization 2 different persuits? Only the first seems to aknowledge End of Suffering as a requisite tho. Apart from the monk example above which is fitting, many masters have claimed to have completely eradicated suffering, the risult of which is Liberation. I would say that Ramana could be an example of a "Liberation that reached the flash" so to say, as many reports his carelessness towards his illness. Also, the story of Jesus is not an adequate example as he is more of a mythical figure - who's story has been shaped by the need of the Church - than a spiritual master

@Alta When you maditate you will experience all sorts of emotions, visions, childhood memories, Hidden memories etc. Sometimes without any reason or logic. When this happens it IS a sign of progress, meaning that you are starting to face the hindrances that prevent you from going further. It is usually called Purification. Think of it as surfacing bubbles that had to be popped. Don't strain your self. If you see you can't yet handle this emotions (fear in particular) feel free to calm down and end the meditation. If instead you feel you are still in control of the situation, bite the bullet, accept the emotion or whatever you are experiencing and go on with the practice. It is important not to suppress it, the attitude should be to accept, embody and let go.

@charlie cho Of course there is a correlation, but usually undertanding something doesn't mean being able to teach it. Notice that exeptionality cannot be taught. No matter how good you are as a menager or you were as a player, no one has ever taught Messi or Jordan how to be exeptional. Not true. There were surely people with less attainment tha the Buddha who had great success with teaching. On the other hand, There are many awakened folk who would be pretty bad at teaching. These are the poeple that you don't see.

@MrTouchdown To say that other being have their own experience is like saying that your middle finger has his own experience. You are basically asking if something can happen beyond your experience. The answer experiencially is no, since what you regard has "poeple having their own direct experience" is a fantasy the your Mind is creating, but you claim to know this. Your mistake is giving solidity and authority to those mini-structures. You can imagine the indipendent thinking of objects, but still sub-order immagination it remain. If you go deep you see that there are no others and therefore no real indipendentness. That doesn't mean something telepathy cannot exist. It can, but it still is in the context of immagination

@marinaaniram why is the little plant beside the sidewalk so desperate to survive? It cannot be otherwise, Every thing tries to survive. And the phrasing "action of trying" isn't completely correct either. The sole fact that something exists is already a form of its survival. Existing and surviving are bound as much as space and time are.

@Someone here Sorry, i posted the above without looking at your reply first. You are absolutly right. I just was just saying that it seams to be expanding from a limited pov. Every pov exist in the illusion of space-time. No Pov, no space.time, no distance, no expansion. Of course, as you and i have said, there is no real expansion.

I think this explain well: Seems to be expanding, top. Seems to be contracting, bottom. One day we will probably discover that in some places of the universe space is eaten up Actuality: not expantion nor contraction, infinity just notice how the inside and outside of the structure is created by the illusory movements of distruction and creation

@Someone here Scientist: literally discover this Also scientist: so space is expanding hihi As we know space is not expanding, space is infinite. What seems to be is increasing is the distance between objects(galaxies). It's like a strange loop. it's seems to be expanding(when you have atleast 2 objects that you can measure from/to), but it isn't at the same time because it doen't have anything to expand into, being already infinite. So we can conclude that from a finite POV (space-time)it is expanding, and from an Absolute NO-POV it isn't.

@Someone here Then you should know that space has no limits. there is no outside, unless you think it into existence. the baloon is infinitly big. As to why it seems to be expanding, i think it has to do with the fact that the evolution and awakening of the Microcosm is deeply interlinked with the one of the Macrocosm (Universe). A growh in self-comprehension of the first results in the "physical" growh of the second. But again this is still a mechanic inside the dream. You should ask this question to some interstellar alien race.

@PenguinPablo If you are awakening, you realize that meaning and value is created not not inherent. CREATE YOUR MEANING!!! Meaninglessness isn't negative. It's the ego the make it appear so. This knowledge should be empowering when internalized beacuse it make you understand that you have no limits. Create your purpose through your values -------------> motivation will follow as long as you follow your excitement!

@Leo Gura @Cesco Tarots have various levels of interpetations. The highest go up to the non duality and unity of turquise. They can be used to describe the movement of the universe from God to God. This guy is the public figure of an old western esoteric order, He goes through every one of them. You won't find this in mainstream New age. If you don't bother to read the subtitles i think it can an intresting presentation

@Someone here Are You the same one who claims to have awakened to Absolute Solipsism?