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Correct, this is mental masturbation

Fantasy

Fantasy

@Breakingthewall Reality is grounded and centered. It doesn’t change.

The absence of definition here is quite defining. When something defines something else we call that a definition. It can’t be. If change is fundamental, there must be something else that the change affects. How can something be fundamental if it depends on something else? The very notion of change implies so many things and none of them are the One happening right now. Reality remains the same as it’s always been. Nothing changes. @Breakingthewall

No. Everything is imagined. That doesn’t change anything. Sleep is still sleep. No, the rocks are aware. Everything is aware. There is no difference between anything, including you and a rock. It is. It just isn’t the self you think it is. It’s not the human. It’s all of us and everything. That is you. @Sugarcoat

Yes The person is the illusion. The being awake part and the being a self part is not. Your self is not human or your thoughts or your feelings. Yourself experiences those things. Rocks are conscious. Everything is conscious. That is what I’m saying, yes. Do not try and realize this without understanding the implications of realizing it though. It is a radical shift. I would suggest this is a limiting belief. Perspectives on reality can change. You might have more control than you think. Yeah, don’t worry about it.

@Davino

If reality was beyond definition— that be would be what defines it, ironically..

@Breakingthewall Speak for yourself. Yet you try 🙂 why?

It is a state of awareness that supersedes sleep, enlightenment, etc. The general notion is that even when you are sleeping or think you are unaware— There is even an awareness of that. The whole point is the thing that feels awake— even as you read this— never goes away. It is fundamental to all of reality. Rocks, trees, birds, plants, animals, people, waterfalls, politics, video games, television, food, junk food, bad feelings, good feelings, sex, abstinence, pain, suffering, fruits, vegetables, up, down, etc.. All these things come after consciousness not before. They’re not technically, but you can see them as separate if you’d like. It may prohibit you from seeing what I’m saying though. Well, it’s one thing to realize that everything is the same thing, but it is important to recognize that whatever everything is must be true otherwise it could not be. This gets confusing because it includes falsehood as well. @Sugarcoat

@James123 Stop with your nonsense.

@Breakingthewall I could tell you my story and what worked for me and yada yada yada, but that would imply a lot of differences between us that I don’t see. It would also be easy for me to say that people will wake up when they want to wake up or that I woke up because I decided that I wanted to. But that would imply a different state that I don’t feel like I ever entered. I could say you will wake up when you wake up whether you want to or not, but then that would imply that you shouldn’t watch Leo’s videos or contemplate or meditate or take care of yourself. Just take care of yourself.

@James123 Don’t take me pointing out how you’re coming across as me being personally offended. It makes you look defensive and manipulative.

@Sugarcoat Consciousness is ‘the state of being awake and aware of one’s surroundings.’ This state is fundamental to reality. Personally, I may prefer the word ‘Awareness’ instead. But it’s also really just ‘God’ and ‘Truth’ as well. However you look at it— it’s all the same thing and really words are just a map to a land you must walk. The map could be burned and the land would remain. Consciousness is just a word— but as accurate as a word can be.

Too many unnecessary layers. There is only ONE thing.

@Sugarcoat Yes, a tomato is the same substance as consciousness; consciousness. Consciousness can be anything and is the only thing. Whatever it decides to be it is. This includes relative concepts. So, you’re right to see how it changes things just don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

Do not patronize me and act like you know the answers to the questions you asked. It is condescending and cold.

Unfortunately what we think and Truth do not always align. No— the point is just Truth. Openness and dissolution have no more to do with Truth than anything else. It’s a bias you have. It’s confusing because you haven’t directly become aware of it. And then it will still be confusing. It is synonymous, though.

@Sugarcoat Yes

@James123 Could you clarify your question? It experiences it without mind because experience is all there is. Experience, awareness, consciousness, etc. that’s all anything is and they are all the same thing. You can experience all of this without a mind because the mind is just a part of experience and experience (awareness, consciousness, etc.) is fundamentally the only thing that exists absolutely.

Hell is whatever you say it is.

@Breakingthewall You’re being overly semantic. Redefining terms like ‘consciousness’ to fit your view or preferred use may feel insightful, but it is actually a counter-productive paradox. The stronger your internal framework becomes, the less communicable it becomes. You’re isolating your ideas by distorting the language used to connect them. This is not sustainable. I’d look into ‘The Nine Stages of Ego Development’ and consider the ‘Expert’ stage’s shortcomings. The stage after, ‘The Achiever’ is interesting as well.

They are both consciousness because they are the same. It is impossible to distinguish the two with words for this reason. They are the same, although it feels they are not. There are differences. But they are the same.

If you think he’s contradicting himself, you’re not understanding him.