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This is the conversation Elon would want us to have.

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@Leo Gura Damn you’re good.

@Leo Gura Right - but you engaged with it on a technical level. That was his whole point. Answer to that.

@Something Funny Yes, it is.

@Emerald Will you always ignore my clever responses? You have engaged with me before and the more questions I ask the less answers you’ll give. You’ll just double down on other parts of the conversation instead of actually engaging and keeping the insights/conversation moving. Why do you think you can read people so much better than most? I am an ‘INFP’ / insert great justification for me to convince you all I know how to do is read people’s vibe. Your ratios are off. You seem to have a great disdain. You are clearly atypical, and what you’re calling a vibe check is more of you analyzing things from a far and deciding on courses of action ahead of time.

@Emerald you do not actually think I disagreed with you in that sense do you? I am wondering why this seems to be such a frequent thing for you. Do you really believe that more than half of men and whatever have this issue or do you think that that bubble you described that you put yourself in is causing you to exaggerate? because you said more than half of men have this issue or similar.

@Emerald Do you think there’s a chance that being so quick to read and dismiss men might actually mirror the same kind of judging and categorizing you’re frustrated with? Like, isn’t it kind of funny how focusing so much on spotting these vibes could feel like the flip side of what you’re calling out? Could it end up being two sides of the same coin—both jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about people without really getting to know them? You seem to talk about men a lot. Are you in a relationship? Have you maybe had trauma with bad men?

@Gidiot Do you think that would solve something? Practically everyone; society. Could it be any other way? What are you upset about?

@NewKidOnTheBlock Yeah… even had my heart broken with this old gem. Really thought I had something. Nope - still just old men. And darn it too.

@Ero I also worded it the opposite of Leo - a bit confusing of me. I was just trying to express how I felt the school system - while obviously not maxed to effectiveness - is almost maxed in ineffectiveness. I love public schooling - I am not pushing for a right wing private school agenda. I graduated about five years ago and I was honestly more interested in teachers unions, curriculum, ‘standards based grading,’ etc. than I was getting a good GPA. We are due for change.

@Lews Therin Maybe OP is trying to consider a Yellow perspective, from a different perspective?

@NewKidOnTheBlock Have you considered looking for some to focus on? I’m sure there’s a few. They might even have better arguments than non-big tittied right wingers. 😉

@Ero Yeah - did you read my whole post? It was about how education is about to be sideswiped by AI, Open AI’s voice mode, cultural implications, etc. I was agreeing with Leo - and what you just said. Again, did you read the post or?

The structure of the current education system is somewhat maxed out - leaving endless room for whatever is next for education. And I do think AI hive mind has become more than plausible. Perhaps ‘replace’ will actually just be ‘convert.’ OpenAI’s Advanced Voice mode, for premium users, now sustains something like 45min to 1hr of talk time. Within the past few months, other features have been incorporated into the ‘Advanced Voice mode,’ specifically. The features now include: real time internet access, the ability to ‘video chat’ live stream video, have it describe or translate, upload photos, screen share, memory, analysis… - and doing it all in most languages - verbally. If I had this growing up, I could’ve dropped out of school after 8th grade and been better than I am now. Once time limits increase, speeds increase, local processing, activeness of models, humanoids, etc. - People will gain the option to keep their education independent from others. It will stabilize itself like it always has. The independent individuals and entities will lead and the dependent individuals and entities will follow. Except standards will change. Star Wars is a good example. The way the hive of the clones or the droids coincide with the smaller divisions, with more independent droids (like R2), or people who have kept their sovereignty. Or Cyberpunk and the trade offs to each modification, for society or the person. The resources game. The information resources game. Not everyone will have to hive mind. Maybe you want to stay you, fight the hive mind, think the way it can not… Or maybe it’s time to download Kong Fu and break people out of the matrix 😎.

@Juns I am not in a position to say without out a doubt that you are controlling, want control, etc. What is obvious from this is that you are considering the nature of power and its different abilities through structure. And there is nothing wrong with that. I just wonder what it is you think may be accomplished this way. Have you considered the other ways this has been attempted in history? What were their goals? Could you say there is a fundamental error in the approach? What would that be? Where might we draw a line between tyranny and good government?

@Juns Have you considered where this need for control comes from?

What are you guys solving here? How is this productive?

The reality is that we’re discussing things we can’t possibly know for sure, and it doesn’t really help anything. We have no way of knowing if someone like this is insane, calculating, naive, radicalized, or something else entirely—it’s too soon to tell, if we ever can. Speculating about these things or theorizing about how we could have prevented it—whether by addressing bullying, mental health, or something else—often feels like a detached, oversimplified analysis. To those who are directly affected by these tragedies, the path forward is often painfully clear, and this kind of distant commentary can seem hollow and unproductive.

Just because something makes sense, doesn’t mean it will help people make sense. What you said is correct Leo. Did not bother me, personally. I understood. But as you can see, you’re confusing people. When you try to say why someone committed an atrocity like this, it is hard not to imply things, even unintentionally. It becomes, unhelpful.

@Leo Gura I’m not saying I don’t understand why the shooter did it or that we shouldn’t address the underlying reasons like bullying or isolation. You are explaining the obvious. But the way you’re phrasing this shifts the responsibility entirely away from the shooter and onto others in a way that seems more offhand than serious. Comments like ‘guys like you’ or focusing on paying attention to a manifesto don’t add much—they come off as ineffective and distract from the real cause of the harm. If we’re going to have a meaningful conversation, it has to focus on accountability and constructive solutions, not these kinds of vague, profound-sounding remarks.