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Technically, depression isnt a real thing either, because godhead cant become depressed. Technically, when a dear friend dies, you shouldnt be sad. Technically your urge of taking a shit is an illusion. We can talk all day about the implications of non-duality, yet this changes nothing for 99,99999% who life on this planet and are currently not, nor will they ever be anywhere close to enlightenment. Even enlightened masters have this monkey-meatsuit and can experience lonliness. If you disagree, try not taking a shit for some days. So, duh.

Well, I cant really answer that for you. You gotta be open minded and ask yourself that question everyday. Do you enjoy NO ONES company or is it certain people? If you can enjoy time with a certain personaltiy type, then I would go out and look for exactly that type of person. You dont need a lot of friends, 2-3 high quality and relatable people in your circle is more than enough. On the other side, maybe you are just a judgemental douchebag who cant enjoy the simple things in people because of some "high conciousness ego-structure" he build for himself. Both is possible, but I just dont know you good enough to tell So be honest and find that out for yourself. First of all, forget spiral dynamics. Not that it hasnt an important place, but it typically leads people to stagnation by overanalysis. Its a great map if you want to look at genereal developmental tendencies, but it has its limits. I know some people who rely too much on this one map, and those are usually lost in trying to solve their world from the perspective of a whiteboard. I also notice time and time again that its misunderstood because of its integral nature. You want to grow your business if I am right. So forget about everything non related to that. This is not about spiral dynmaics, spiritualy, higher conciousness, non-duality. You seem to be very young, so take one step after another and stop with all that other stuff for now. That whole second tier, stage yellow/turqoise headache will come to you anyway sooner or later. Look for a mentor that helps you with your business and your motivational problems. Maybe you need to go through multiple mentors to find one that fits your unique personal type. There are great integral teachers out there, you just need to find them. Dont try to find the "perfect" one, like the one you described - cause thats bullshit. Just use some your common sense a bit more. You wont grow more if you figure it out for yourself. Thats a bullshit story your ego tells you. Chances are you will never find it out and dabble in the dark for some years. You are clearly very young, so avoid a decade of trial and error, literally wasting your time, and find someone that helps you. Thats perfectly fine and the one smart thing to do. Nobody in here knows your exact situation, so why bother asking some randoms for advice? Most people here are not in a good place to start with, so it quickly becomes a blind leading the blind situation. Get some real help from real people or programs. Also Jay Alvarrez is not stage orange (kinda green/yellowish - there is some system thinking in him). You can be an enlightened stage turqoise master who drives Mercedes G-class while fucking a russian supermodel in the backseat. Its an integral model, so you transcend a stage by integrating the healthy parts of it. I am a typical "stage yellow" person, even if I dont like to identify as that. I drink alcohol, I make 6 figures, I have multiple sexual partners - so what? Stop labeling so much. You can be a stage yellow billionare (Elon Musk is high green/yellow) or a orange billionare (Jeff Bezos). You can be a stage yellow pickup artist (Marshall from Natural lifestyles) or some stage red mysoginistic idiot. There is no either/or. Anyway, stop with that analysis now. What you need to do know is taking care other stuff. Greetings

How about we stop with all that gibberish/pseudo-profundity and just give understandable/non-BS answers. Reincarnation is not a 100% proven thing, yet there is some really good evidence that indicates some kind of "thread" that goes through lifetimes. If you are interested in that, search for Dr. Ian Stevenson's lectures on youtube. Now lets come to your question: How is reincarnation compatible with non-duality. Again, there is no definite proof out there, in fact different traditions/teachers will tell you different stories about that. Yet there seems to be a middle ground where most traditions come together and it basically goes like this: When your body dies, your brain dies. When your brain dies, your personality/ego dies. So thats gone. Yet there is some kind of "karmic structure"(yogi-term) or "soul"(christian term) that "looks for a new body" after your current one bites the dust. In this structure, all your previous life experiences are perserved and this actually influences which "new body" "you" are choosing. Godhead is overflowing with creative energy, so it constantly spits out new "karmic structures" that go on their adventures through serveral lifetimes, until one day, they return by realizing their true nature. Its still all one thing, it just creates a cosmic dance out of itself. Again, I dont know if this is true - but it seems to be possible.

Playing World of Warcraft all day while listening to Self-help & spirituality videos in the background lol.

This sounds like a bullshit story you tell yourself. Most people who describe themselfe as "lonely" in this community are just really terrible at relating with other human beings. They build an ego around their ill perceived superiority and cant see that the real problem is general weirdness or some psychological projection they suffer from. Even if you are "more developed", then it should be easy for you to find friends on your level, in abundance. I have friends on every possible spectrum of conciousness and I can relate to them just fine. Of course, most of my closest friends are high value, high profile individuals but that doesnt mean I cant go out and do stuff with my stage blue cousin and enjoy it. There is different advice for different developmental stages when it comes to this. For some people this means dropping every expectation and that will do the trick. For others, some good old discipline and persistance is the right track. Some mindset switch is propably the best for the next one. You need to find that out for yourself, nobody in here can tell you that. The best advice I can give you is to find a mentor that has the success you are looking for. Asking such questions here on this board will confuse you even more, trust me.

Found out about this guy a couple of months ago, devoured all possible podcasts/books/articles he is part of in a short period of time. Sadly, there isnt too much from him on youtube - lets hope this changes in the future! Just a brilliant, very no bullshit & nuanced thinker (which is very rare nowadays)! I have to admit that I didnt like his book a lot because it seems quite superficial and stuffed with buzz words - basically the complete opposite to any of his podcast appearances. Here are few of my favorite pieces! Enjoy!

"We are pluriforms of god, voluntary descended to reanimate the Yin element, which does not know. In doing so, we know that we will forget ourselves in the act of redeeming the other half, which is a terrible irony, because we become what we are attempting to save. And only in remembering the ourselves together, is the game won and we get to return for eternity." -Philip K. Dick

Leo is a flawed human being like we all are. Thats perfectly fine. Relative truths can be very, very complex, almost unattainable for a human mind. Thank god, that in a few years, we can salutate and ask our new machine overlords about that stuff.

So, is that mutually exclusive? Because you can definitely party, chase girls & have some drinks with your boys from time to time WHILE doing serious spiritual and life purpose practices basically every day. If you wish, you can do that. I love to do that. The trick is to do it conciously.

Got a quite high baseline to start with: So I would place myself somewhere in the range of 7-8,5/10

I exactly understand OP, cause I have been going through the same stuff. He DMd me after my response, so I guess I struck a nerve. A lot of older people regret the stuff they didnt do when they were young. OP IS still young, so maybe do those things now, than deal with the regret later? Kinda stupid, isnt it? Its like saying: dont eat healthy, get sick and learn to let go of the suffering/fear.

Dont let anyboy here tell you what you should do. People on this forum neither know your situation, nor whats best for your life. Most individuals in here life highly mediocre lives, a lot are clinically depressed. You see those people sharing "advice" while complaining about their miserable life in the next thread. I almost fell into this trap when I was your age (26 now) but thank god I took the other path. So you are 23? Dude, you are young as fuck - most of my craziest life adventures happened in the last 3 years (from 23-26). Dont let anybody here tell you its a bad thing to do stupid things with your friends and having some drinks here and there. If you have this feeling, adress it - look whats behind that. Man, the most memorable times I had in my life were the vacations and trips, drunk at a beach, playing volleyball with the 2 hot girls we just met, almost crying of laughter because of some ridicolous thing that happened. Or the one time we got in a huge thunderstorm during camping - scary at first, but one of the most epic experiences afterwards. Those are the bonding experiences that brought us together for the long run, its peak experience and I felt pure love for all those people in my life and everything else that "exists". You do pickup? Great! Picking up girls is a fun part of life and just another great part of this awesome simulation. Also, if you want to settle down in a few years, you can do it with a girl you really connect with, so you dont become just another divorce statistic. So I did all this crazy stuff in the last years, yet I still medidated every day & experiment with different kind of practices. I eat healthy (whole foods, plant based) at least 90% of the time. I do various kinds of physical activity to stay fit. I work hard to become financially independent. Nothing you do in a is mutually exclusive to living a spiritual life. Even after all the "enlightenment experieneces" I had, I still love to have drinks with my boys, smoke some shisha or date beautiful women (Duh!). Play this "video game" called life AND do all spiritual practices/self developement you want. Dont limit yourself to one thing! What "playing" means is completely up to your definition. Leo wouldnt want the things I do. Some other guy on this forum might prefer a completely different path. But if you tell me that you have the "feeling that you miss out on life", then maybe its time to take a closer look. The worst that can happen if you have this realization with 40 or 50. Thats the kind of shit that gets you stuck. You dont even know what that means! You read that in a book or saw it in one of Leos video. Dont put yourself in a certain box. Do what you enjoy, do it conciously. Again, dont follow anyones advice here, including mine of course. Just start thinking in a broader way and think about what you really want. Dont "let got" of that feeling. It will come again and again, until you adress it. IF you have questions, feel free to pm me!

So I want to talk about a phenomenon I observe quite often in my everyday life. Here and threr I meet individuals who just have a certain "glow" in their eyes. Its really difficult to describe, but I think everyone knows what I am talking about. It usually comes with certain qualities in their personality that others would describe as charismatic, but thats not true in every case. Also, there does not seem to be a correlation with grades of spiritual awakening/conciousness, since I see this in everyday joes, hardcore scientists but also spiritual masters. People with this attribute usually have some kind of magnetic pull to them. I remember meeting a woman with those kind of eyes coupple of years ago and for some reason, I couldnt take my gaze off her. It was like she could see into my soul, which was scary as fuck to be honest. She wasnt "good looking" in the usual sense, but there was something that captured my attention. I tried to explain this phenomenon to myself dozen of times: - Maybe its just a physiological thing, a higher humidity in their eyes, coupled with a certain muscular tone in the surrounding area. - A certain shape/expression that is hardwired in our reptilian brain, so that it makes us focus on it. - Maybe some spiritual explanation Have you experienced that? What is your explanation for it? It is a really interesting phenomenon in my opinion! Here are some examples that clarify my points: Rasputin (Cult leader, basically) Yogananda( Yoga master) Marshall Applewhite (cult leader) Robert Oppenheimer (Phycisist) Timothy Leary (psychodelic revolutioner)

You are deluded, but i apprechiate your effort

Used to watch all the "Dawkins owns creationist" compilations on youtube! Fun stuff I have to admit Still think he is an incredible smart human being who wants the best for people and the world in general. Sadly, he is very rigid in his ways, which prevents him from opening his mind to new possibilities. Hopefully he will take psychodelics at least once before he dies! I cant really be mad at him though! I found out about this whole spiritualty-thing by complete chance and in a period where I had a very open mind. Others, including almost all my friends, didnt have that luck.

Positive thinking is a tool. Tools can be used in a healthy and in an unhealthy way. You can delude yourself to an extent where your life basically goes downhill into the abyss, while you tell yourself how good everything is. Your subconcious mind doesnt really care about your concious efforts of thinking positively. What I also see in some "always positive" personalities is some kind of fakeness and non authenthic being. We have a full spectrum of emotions and sometimes the "positive" ones are not the right ones for dealing with a certain situation. Where it does grandiose work is reframing in my opinion. You get fired from your job: A great way to get over this is to reframe the situation in a positive way AND then take action from that point.

Act as if, everything else wont take you anywhere. Life is mysterious in many ways and nobody knows how it all works behind the scenes. Not even all the enlightened masters.

Not everybodys life sucks. Some peoples life sucks more than others. Everyone starts from a differnet place, mentally and with different circumstances. There is literally nothing else to do than trying to transform. Maybe you have been the luckiest motherfucker out there in one of your previous lifes and chose a hard path in this one. Maybe what I just said is bullshit, idk. Nevertheless, you gotta try everything. In this day and age, there is so much potentially helpful information out there - so get your life in order. There is a way. There are many ways.

I understand you Nivsch, been there, done that! Nobody in here will give you a satisfying answer, so stop looking for one. The only way to find out is to do the exercises and find the answers for yourself. I am not aware of anything at the moment, but I am doing the exercises. I will remain agnostic until I find more clues. Anything else is bullshit. Greetings

I dont know that. I doubt anybody here knows that really. People just talk in fantastic riddles. But here is what an enlightened one thinks about it - hope that helps.

Nature loves courage. Take responsibility for everything in your life. Act as if you have control and try not to think about it anymore. Anything else is mental gymnastics. Most of the answers you will read here will confuse you even more.

Nobody in here will diagnose you correctly. There are at least 10 explanations I can think of that can cause the situation you are currently experiencing. All you need to know is that the problem is not friends but you. If you really are a high value person, you will attract others into your life. Maybe the problem is value, maybe social skills, maybe lack of good people in your enviroment. The diagnosis is up to you. Take a hard look at yourself and your life. Dont judge your friends like you just did. Understand, accept & tolerate. Dont be a bitch. Do something. IF you ask me, you seem like a person who is quite unrelateable and difficult to bond with. I dont know you though, so this could be completely bullshit! Thats everything you need to know. Everything else will confuse you.

I drink (in fact, I am hungover right now as I am writing this). I smoke hookah every other weekend. I have a lot of simply pleasured, deep blue/orange(spiral dynamcis) friends I love to hang out with. I go out at nights with the sole purpose of picking up hot chicks. I watch TV (rarely though). I watch the news. I use social networks daily. I just spent the last 5 days playing World of Warcraft classic for 16+ hours/day trying to get my mage server first 60. I grew up in a deep blue-centric (spiral dynamics) surrounding. I love to gossip with my friends. We have a really dark & unmature sense of humour. I want to look good, dress well & its important for me to make an impression . I enjoy pop culture. Sometimes I eat a 30 inch pizza on my own. I am not enlightened. I am not perfect and I still suffer sometimes (even though its not bad at all). I am fit as fuck. I eat a mostly plant based, whole foods diet. I meditate daily. I am currently implemanting a yoga routine. I read a lot of books/audiobooks about spirituality and other self actualization stuff. I am about to become a medical doctor. I have a great relationship with my parents. I am aware of non-duality. I have had coupple of realizations. I experiment with psychodelics. I have a lot of great friends I love to spent time with. I have 2-3 friends who are highly concious, I enjoy them as much as my lower conciousness friends (Topics of discussion are quite different though). I watch Leo Gura videos. I have had moments of awe lately where I almost begin to cry because of how beautiful this life & reality is. I am really happy (most of the time). Becoming more concious doesnt mean anything particular, dont let people fool you. Yes, your habits might change, but thats because you want them to change. It puts the steering wheel of your life into your hands. You can become an elightened master who likes fucking trannies with a strap-on after the 6th Tequila sunrise and 2 lines of coke. Its not likely, but it exists. A lot of people (not all obviously) here on this forum have quite a miserable life. Dont take advice from them. You actually know what to do, but your emotions/thoughts get in the way. Personally, I just want to enjoy/experience & ultimately play this video game of life and this is definitely easier to do so, with a certain level of conciousness. Thats why I do this work. Greetings