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You/This/Here/Now is all there is and ever was and ever will be But in practice You are God limiting yourself, and undoing that (called awakening), and there's no limit upon this undoing, you can always get more divine (conscious/intelligent/loving/etc), you can't reach infinity (indefinite awakening) . Even though You are infinity (infinite awakening) "Practice means relative means bullshit" Well, call it whatever you want but that's what's going on.. in practice @Inliytened1 you recognize infinite but not indefinite awakening, amirite ?

I don't mind because either you're right or you're wrong The substance of relative truth is absolute truth, whether you buy into it or not, like I said at the very start : A concept/belief exists, it is absolute truth, but it's still bullshit, second order, relative Here's Leo addressing my point (1:20:00--->1:24:22)

@Razard86 Friction improves the work

Sure since time is imaginary But that only furthers my point Can't be gone, you have nowhere/nowhen to go

You were never gone Your entire life has been one single continuous experience

In others words, unconsciousness as in the negation of consciousness as an absolute

We were talking about unconsciousness as in non-experience

For most people spirituality is a side quest but that won't do

Oh I'm 28 I thought you were around the same ! So you have the benefit of hindsight huh, I'll keep that in mind

No you !

In a sense I always was In a sense I will never be

I know I was just messing around as it was in the same vein as the post above

I chuckled

@Osaid Maybe you prefer the following : It's not like you're the only human conscious and other humans are unconscious. Rather it's all consciousness That's one way I coped with the grief of solipsism, realizing my human self is not apart from the ones I love, we're all on the same relative plane

For anyone wondering why unconsciousness is impossible, the answer is that consciousness is an absolute, meaning it has no opposite Think of it, if not consciousness then what ? Some sort of non-existence ? Not only is that word meaningless, but even so, there can't be such an objective fact, just like there can't be material objects, objectivity is dreamed-up by consciousness ! Which transcends the subject/object duality

If you can't realize that's false, at least realize that's a belief, you have never experienced non-experience

Belief There's no such thing as unconsciousness There's also no such thing as consciousness without qualia

Solipsism

Awakening is about truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth

Other doesn't exist, stop trying to be so technical You're a solipsist in disguise, the worst kind

Ok let's continue here As I said, pointing to non-existence (of other), is pointing to infinity (of self), which yeah strictly speaking can't be done You can't point to non-existence because it doesn't exist You can't point to existence because it's all that exists !

So what's the problem ? Pointing to non-existence (of other), is pointing to infinity (of self)

That's what we're doing right now, meditation/observation