Breakingthewall

Appearances are always a process relative to another process. Nothing appears if it is not related to something. Any movement occurs in relation to another movement, another state. A vibration is a stable oscillation between two states in the same system. Sure, but what you call appearance is the existence. Reality is what allows existence. Reality is unlimited being. "Being" is the key. What is the meaning of "being"? Is it something? It's what is because there are not limits. This is not a metaphor, it's the reality. Limitlessness. Existence is the inevitable manifestation.

It's very obvious. Existence is the manifestation of reality. The manifestation of reality is relative movement, change, becoming. Without change there is no existence, only reality as absolute potential. But always there is change, absence of change is precisely "never". The difficult part is defining reality.

Consciousness is a dual, relational form that reality takes. It is secondary, not essential, although always present because is possible. Consciousness is reality perceiving itself. Reality is indefinable, is unlimited being.

That's a judgment in which you assign reality a category: dream or constructed and transitory simulation. This is opposed to another category: real, not transitory, whatever. By doing so, you're establishing an absolute limit on reality. Here you structure reality between an actor, the dreamer, an action, dreaming, and a result, the dream. Reality is divided into compartments due to a realization you've had that has revealed to you that reality has this structure; therefore, you now create this structured map. It's a conceptual framework you've built by internalizing teachings and through personal realizations. The point is that awakening, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, is precisely the dissolution of all limits and all conceptual frameworks. It's an action, not a realization. Opening yourself to the totality, being one with the absolute. You can't define the absolute because if you do, it becomes relative.

I don't get what do you mean

Ramana is saying an opinion about spiritual ego and the seeker, and about what is true and what is false.

There is not dream, just different configuration of the perception of the reality. The thing is much more simpler and direct than advaita vision.

What you're talking about is a shift in perspective, and it's a mental shift at the end, or that's what I understand in that text. I'd say the point isn't exactly there, but rather in the dissolution of the internal energetic barriers that keep you in a kind of encapsulated state. A constant flow of mental structure is being maintained to encapsulate reality, give it a defined form, and confine it within certain limits. The goal is to change that encapsulating dynamic into a state without limits. In a state without limits, nothing is defined in the sense of that there are not ontological limits. There are not levels of reality, not ontological differentiations, only reality. This means that the only thing you know is that you are, and in that lies everything. It truly is total fullness, since there are no limits to restrict that fullness. The fact of being is absolutely full of everything. Nothing is lacking; you simply are. That's all; it's total. You can't explain it, you have to break the limits to live it. That's awakening: an energetic shift. not a cognitive realization from falsehood to truth, but a movement from closure to openness.

have this any relationship with what I wrote? What I wrote are not beliefs, are opinions about the speech of Ramana maharshi

No, awakening is about being without absolute limits. It's an energetic shift, not a conceptual one, but it creates a different conceptual framework. You can have an IQ of 60 and still be limitless. You can have Down syndrome and still see the totality in everything and be one with it. The problem with not being intelligent is that the human energy configuration is built by evolution to make you a cog in a machine, so irresistible forces will trap you. Unless you're a genetic anomaly in which those mechanisms are very weak. Otherwise, you'll become obsessed with success, fear will crush you, rejection will be intolerable, and death will be absolute horror.

Listening to that video, I see the following: Ramana believes that humanity lives in a state of error, chasing desires, prisoners of the ego, doing things they shouldn't. Their entire view of reality is false, but there is a true vision, his vision, that is without ego. But the ego is tenacious, and when you begin to transcend it, it transforms into a spiritual ego that thinks it is evolving, reaching enlightenment, which is another mistake because enlightenment is now. The guy seems to have an interesting mental mess. First, he didn't achieve "enlightenment" through a voluntary process; rather, he was naturally inclined toward it and went off to live in solitude at a young age. How does he know that in other cases a voluntary process is a mistake? Second, he seems to think that reality is foolish and wrong, creating foolish, misguided humans who do a lot of things they shouldn't because they're false. The true thing is to be one with what he calls the true self, and not to pursue false goals like building civilizations and all that, since it's false. It seems that reality is stupid, but he can correct it by pointing out its stupidity, so reality will stop doing false things.

No, I'm not. The solipsist doesn't say that reality is non-dual, that everything that exists is the infinite being or the Tao or whatever; he says that you are God projecting a dream onto the screen of your mind, a dream that isn't real. Only you, God, are real, and the dream is a projection. The people you see aren't real; they have no experience. They are images you create to live an experience and achieve certain goals, to love, or whatever Then no, I think that this is a totally wrong map of what reality is

if reality is defined as consciousness or love, the definition is already wrong, because both are particular expressions. The only coherent definition of reality is unlimited being: that which is, precisely because there are no limits. Absence of limits is not a quality ,it is the defining condition. Being has no definite meaning in a differential sense, because it has no opposite within this frame. It cannot be defined by contrast. Being is not consciousness, consciousness is a relational process, while being is the fact of being because there are no limits. Is this a tautology? Yes , and necessarily so. Any non-tautological definition would already introduce limits. As the Tao Te Ching says, what can be named is not the Tao. Existence means being in a relative, structured form. Being is the condition that makes any form possible. It is prior to existence, but not separate from it. There is no being apart from form; form is being appearing. Without form there is no existence, but form is inevitable because reality is not contained. Where there are no limits, coherent manifestation cannot be prevented. No, I said the opposite.

When you respond and act, but there is no external reality, nor response or act, only reality in perpetual flux without separation, you are one with the whole. When you observe, there are two.

Spirituality is real, and each teacher has a particular vision, but in general, they all point toward the dissolution of the ego's barriers, toward being limitless. Just as each teacher has a different vision, each person has a different process. The teachers tell you that dissolving the barriers is a possibility; something resonates within you, telling you that this possibility is real. But to actually do it, to truly dissolve the barriers, is something only you can do. There is no "official" path. You must be an absolute sovereign and a pioneering explorer, and made your path

Quite accurate. A human being is an energetic construct that emerges in reality after an evolution spanning eons, and to evolve, it has selected an absolute will to be, to remain, to fit into the group, to maintain itself as a concrete form, to avoid dissolution. This will is an energetic knot of enormous power, which closes the human structure and keeps it limited. Breaking that knot and opening perception to the unlimited faces very serious barriers; it is extremely difficult. But the human will is unstoppable. It is the expansive will of reality, that is just the inherent expansion of the unlimited, and when the time comes, it focuses like a laser and breaks through any barrier.

Seems useless any strike from EEUU now. The only way to achieve regime change in Iran is through action by the Iranians themselves. The US and Israel will obviously collaborate if civil war breaks out, but for that to happen, a large sector of the Iranian armed forces would have to rebel, and this doesn't seem possible...so far. Who knows what tricks Israel has up its sleeve? Yes, yes, Israel should mind its own business and all that, but on the other hand, perhaps 50 years of Islamic clerical dictatorship, where the illiterate rule and those who study emigrate, is enough for a millennia-old culture like Iran's.

It's not about "truth," since that implies "falsehood," which is the wrong approach to the matter. Enlightenment is breaking down limits and being open to your nature, to the absolute being. "Absolute" means unlimited. Relative means limited. Relative is not false, is just manifestation, not nature. "Being" is the consequence of unlimitedness. If nothing limits it, being is. Reality is. This is everything; it is the totality. To truly be open to this reality as a base state is enlightenment. This is not just a realization, it's an energetic shift.

Yes I understand , but enlightenment is not about increasing your consciousness in the sense of being aware of more things, but about opening your consciousness to no-thing, to absolute being. For example, we were talking about Ramana before. He says that enlightenment is silence, or that it is found in silence. This means that enlightenment is not "something." It is not God, nor consciousness, nor a higher self; it is the absolute being, the field of possibilities where reality arises, the total openness that is

What you didn't understand? The explanation you quoted is straightforward and flawless. Put it to the test.

When we talk about increasing your consciousness, we're really referring to being aware of more things. This is irrelevant in relation to enlightenment, since enlightenment is being aware of the absolute, unlimited Being, which isn't a thing, but rather the opening that allows existence. Let's say that what appears is the vibration of Being. You can be conscious at level 3 or at level 1 billion, but both are equal with respect to the infinite vibrational potential of Being. Enlightenment is the opening to the bottomless, boundless Being, to the field of possibilities where existence manifests.

My answers are absolutely simple and direct. Maybe for you it's better this: An atom is pure consciousness Or this: An atom is pure love. They are emotional answers and are very successful because people feel safe listening them . All is spirituality is about emotions. If make you feel safe, it's true. But the reality is not like that. Anyway, tell me what is wrong in my answers , over all in the answer to the question: what is reality?

Not circular, are final. What did you don't understand?

A field of reality is a concrete possibility that can happen in the reality . According science a field is a magnitude defined in spacetime. More metaphysically could be said that it's a coherent way in which reality can be structured without contradiction The reality is what is due it's limitlessness A vibration is a stable dynamic pattern of change in a system. Coherence is the compatibility between the parts of a system that allows a pattern to remain stable. If this compatibility is lacking, the pattern doesn't appear, it doesn't exist. What is incoherent does not manifest, since any manifestation is a relationship between parts. What is a part in the unlimited? It's a local configuration. A wave is not a part of the ocean, it's a local configuration that is coherent with others locals configurations.

a localized set of vibrations of the fields of reality arranged coherently