Breakingthewall

Btw, this framework does not aim to define reality or capture the whole. Its sole function is to avoid introducing conceptual fissures that impede the individual's natural openness to the totality. This openness is neither conceptual nor constructed; it is real. The framework is merely a tool to prevent it from being closed off. If there are absolute limits, like god, consciousness, or anything, the door will be closed. Absolutely always. The openess requires a open frame.

Let’s consider the following conceptual framework to understand what “enlightenment” actually is. Bit long, as short as it can be. First, we have a coherent universe, a system of relations governed by universal laws that organize energy, matter and cosmic events, allowing increasingly complex relational systems to arise. Vibrations of fields that we call energy, atoms, stars, planets, complex molecules… until we reach a fundamental phase transition we call life. Life is the appearance of self-legislated systems, that is, systems with their own internal laws and a built-in drive for self-preservation. This is a mode of existence absolutely different from everything that came before it. Fields, energy, stars, planets, these are what they are because of the universal laws that govern them. These laws make them inevitable. But life does not operate within that same frame: it is not the mere result of gravity + the strong nuclear force + electromagnetism, etc. Rather, within that framework of physical laws, life is the emergence of a universe with its own interior laws. It does not break the fundamental laws of physics; it operates according to them but creates, on top of them, a new set of exclusive internal laws. In effect, life is a universe inside a larger universe. And if the “main universe” is probably itself a subsystem inside something larger, nothing suggests this is impossible. This new universe, with its own internal laws, produces an essential duality between inside and outside. A living organism must preserve itself in order to be, and this necessity forces selective interaction with the environment. A living organism is not a collection of atoms, but a pattern that places those atoms in exact positions and functions, a vast map of processes occurring at different levels continuously. Can you see the map? Because here comes the interesting part. The interaction between the interior and the exterior inevitably produces what we call qualia, subjective experience. Qualia is the interface between these two universes: the living system and the external universe. In simple organisms it is very basic, impulses that distinguish heat from cold, high from low mineral concentrations, light from dark, desirable from undesirable. As the organism increases in complexity, this interface does the same: it expands, becomes richer, more nuanced. The qualia of a bacterium is not the qualia of a plant, or a worm, or a fish. With each phase transition, the organism’s range of movement and possible actions increases exponentially, and the interface connecting the two universes expands proportionally. This interface is essentially a third universe, supported by the biological base and shaped by the external world. It is not more or less real than the main universe or the secondary universe we call life, there are no categories, only expressions of reality. Qualia, subjective experience, is the reality, just as the universe is reality and the organism is reality. Qualia is a stable cloud of processes and relations, with a defined form. When living organisms reach large degrees of complexity, as in the case of a rat, qualia, the subjective cloud, begins to take the shape of an individual that desires, fears, enjoys and suffers. This stable cloud of quantum-level processes begins to recognize itself vaguely as a proto-self that must defend itself from destruction and preserve its lineage. Complexity continues to advance, and new beings appear in which a further phase transition takes place: a new dimension of being emerges: symbolic mind. A mind that transcends rigid conditioning tied to matter and begins to operate beyond it. This symbolic mind is a cloud of qualia/processes capable of operating through symbols/forms created within this cloud that emulate both the biological reality that sustains it and the external reality in which it must operate and adapt. Symbolism gives rise to what we call memory: a mega-symbol composed of countless smaller symbols, stable enough to create the image of change unfolding in a temporal line. It is supported by atavistic impulses implanted by evolution: the absolute need to survive, belong to the group, reproduce, influence, avoid harm, and pursue pleasure. This system, this quantum cloud of enormous complexity and perfect synchrony, is what we call consciousness. This is the highest peak of complexity we can observe. And now comes the next phase: the deconstruction of complexity. This hyper-complex system, consciousness, is a universe in itself, and as such, an expression of reality. That is, it is reality. This being that knows itself, that defines itself, can deconstruct itself and return to its essential nature. This is simple, because what it truly is is its essential nature. A bit of meditation: first, we remove the process called memory, which creates a temporal line, and we situate ourselves in the absolute now. Simple: deactivate symbolism, which is to say, deactivate meaning. Without meaning there is no time. It is that direct. But of course ,there are energetic forces behind the meaning, fear, desire. Simple, but not so easy to face them. Second, we remove sensory input. Obviously it cannot be eliminated, but it is relatively easy to withdraw relevance from it. Without becoming and without sensation, what remains is something naked, alone, singular, an odd structure, a kind of energetic barrier, a black hole that absorbs everything: the self. What is the self? Is it something? A witness? A witness of what? Of experience? But what is the self without experience? Here is the key: the self is the final door that keeps the system called consciousness closed. This is very difficult to explain or think about, because the one who explains and thinks is the self, or better, the self is the apparent center of all those process. At a certain moment, when the energetic flow of the entire system aligns in a certain way, the closure dissolves, the self collapses as a center, and then it ceases to close. The ultimate nature of reality reveals itself. What reality is before that enormous tangle of molecules, life, rats and selves: absolute openness, total being. Total being is not conscious or unconscious, it is total. “Conscious” only means a process that registers what is happening. Without any register, there is no change, there is no sense of self, there is not what we call "consciousness", there is being. Being is equally total with or without that process. But in that process the self recognizes that what it truly is… is total being. Because everything that exists is that, and all the dance of form is simply the dance of form, the inevitable expression of what has no limits. Total being is not movement, but what makes movement inevitable. It is not conscious or unconscious, not moving or still; none of these categories touch the openness. It is totality, and totality perceives itself through the very system created within itself called consciousness, and recognizes itself in its essence, in its openness, in its unlimited nature. One thing is very important: any identification must fall. That's more difficult that it seems. Consciousness is an identification. Love, god, infinite, everything, glory. Identifications. All belong to the self, to the center. The absolute is absolutely naked. It's not nothing nor something, it's open.

Yes, it knows itself in the sense that it preserves itself from the outside world. That's what we call life: a system that has the will to be, that actively resists attempts to make it cease to be. This is the great mystery. Life wants to be. And what goes against that is suffering. Life is desire. Let's see, If we observe the universe, we see that reality seeks form; there is a structural tendency toward differentiation, toward the formation of form, toward the exploration of possible configurations. This is an inherent property of the universe. The universe does not resist threats because it has no exterior, but it tends toward complex structures; it is a proto-desire. Life is a universe within the universe, and this proto-desire translates into direct desire. There is an outside world from which to protect oneself. The structural property of the universe of being concentrates, amplifies, and becomes defensive. It is a total phase leap, the greatest possible leap. Then suffering appears, it's the reaction to that which prevents one from being. Human psychological suffering is exactly the same nature as the reaction of a cell repairing itself when damaged, only amplified and symbolized. Life is fundamentally the will to be, and this inevitably involves suffering. But this will to be can't be something alien to the universe, it's the fundamental nature of the universe with an exterior. The point is that the universe does not merely allow form; its dynamics structurally favor the emergence of stable configurations. Symmetry breaking is not accidental but intrinsic to how reality unfolds. After each rupture of symmetry, the system reorganizes into new coherent structures with their own local symmetries. This is not intention or purpose, but a structural tendency toward stability and coherence. But the real point is: structural tendency equates intention, there is no difference. Not because there is an entity that desires, but because this is the nature of reality

@Ishanga @LastThursday thanks for reading. Matter is a form of vibration of reality that spontaneously organizes itself into increasingly complex patterns, eventually reaching extremely complex forms like amino acids or self-replicating RNA molecules. No one knows how the leap from these molecules to self-organizing systems with their own laws, called life, occurs, but the point is that life is no more "alive" than a hydrogen atom; it is simply more complex, at a different stage of complexity. Just as a bacterium and a cat are at different stages of complexity. I suppose this tendency toward extreme levels of complexity can be explained by entropy, which forces a closed system to inevitably tend toward disorder, but always with pockets of extreme order that ultimately lead to greater entropy. It seems that at certain critical points, reality shifts phase, inevitably finding the most optimal path. Unfortunately, science has its limits for now and cannot see beyond them, but by logical deduction, reality functions through symmetry breaks and an intrinsic tendency to re-establish that symmetry, not going back, but seeking possible stable coherences. It seems to be an intrinsic property of reality.

I used to find hang gliding in the most extreme conditions absolutely fascinating, in real danger to break my body. I spent a lot of time planning sailing trips in the harshest conditions that I dare. I'd do things like take a long solo sailing trip, and the night before, without any planning, drink and do drugs all night in clubs and still set off knowing that I wouldn't sleep in the first 3 days in a very rough weather alone in the ocean, and then sleep 2 hour by day another week. I also found boxing with rage-filled, psychopathic Eastern European guys absolutely thrilling. If I had sex, I'd think: yes okay, but a fight with extreme pain is way better, no comparison. Another thing I found very appealing is 3 days non stop parties with drugs dancing techno, again and again, with very toxic people around. And many other things in that line of behavior, I didn't do more because I didn't dare, but if I would dare I would like to go to a war or similar. All of that now seems like something a mad, a mentally ill person, would do. I don't identify with any of it. It's like I'm a completely different person. But I understand exactly why I used to act in that way. I was closed, my heart was locked, and I instinctively searched the openess in the external world, because I couldn't see that the jail was inside. I was staring a mirage that always was far, in the next thing. That mirage was freedom, and was impossible to reach, because the lock was inside, exactly here. But was absolutely totally impossible to see in that moment

I exaggerated a bit before . anyway, just 1 years in prison sure it's interesting. 25 years what a hell, maybe it's better to die. But honestly, I think I would commit suicide only in case of terminal, degenerative disease, and I would never harm innocent people. But who knows, we don't know what we would be like in extreme circumstances.

It's clear that you attract certain types of people depending on your inner vibration, your sense of fulfillment or lack, and this greatly influences your life. But on the other hand, misfortune can befall anyone, such as illness, being sentenced to life imprisonment despite being innocent, or living in Stalingrad under siege by the Nazis. I think it isn't wise to cling to the belief that you create your own reality and that if you have brain cancer it will be your fault.

Well, for me not exactly. I absolutely hate many things. There are a lot of things that I won't do and I would prefer to die. If it's necessary I would organize a genocidal war and then dance around our impaled and burned-alive enemies. If that's what life expects of me, of course . Or maybe I simply commit suicide, depending

It's not about doing what you want. We usually want things because we feel incomplete and believe that achieving certain goals will make us complete, but it doesn't work that way; it works the other way around. You feel complete by aligning yourself with the tendency that your life circumstances, your nature, expect of you. The question isn't what I want, but what life wants from me. If you operate in the "I want things" dimension, you will never, ever be satisfied. You are a black hole that absorbs energy and is never filled. On the other hand, if you operate in the sense of aligning yourself, you will be satisfied in the trenches of World War I, surrounded by corpses of your friends eaten by rats. That's how the game works.

Sure, but choices at the end. Why would one focusing in what you can't do when you can focus in what you can do? Even it's small, it's everything

Reality is in motion and develops, evolves, and finds new dimensions of being. Who directs this movement? Someone superior to you? Why do you think there could be someone superior to you? In an unlimited framework, there is no vertical hierarchy. A universe is the same as an ant.

You have the power to shape your circumstances. What you are as a self is above all the impulse in one direction. Our circumstances are defined by countless factors, by the totality of the flow of reality, but within that flow our gaze points in one direction, and that impulse is the will of reality. There is no other reality directing us like puppets, no master director. There are countless forces and wills creating the flow, and yours is an expression of that will. You are that.

Sadhguru says that in the West we all obey God's absolute truth, while in the East people must seek truth within themselves. This is partly true; the West has been entirely absolutist. The Catholic Church, which is more Augustinian than Christian, establishes the most terrifying system of thought in human history. God, who is love, condemns you to eternal hell by default, because of Adam's sin, and perhaps, if you absolutely obey what the Church says, you can save yourself from being tortured for eternity. This highly effective system was invented by Saint Augustine in the 5th century and copied by Muhammad in the 6th. It completely castrates minds; it is extreme violence. people like Ramakrishna, rabindranath tagore, would be burned by the Church. But the Augustinian system has a brutal effect on the European psyche. It creates a civilization of fragmented people, enslaved by an impossible system in which you are ordered to love your enemies and be humble when reality demands the exact opposite. Sad, depressed, terrified people. A Japanese samurai didn't have to love or be pure of heart; he had to obey, period. He did, and that was that. A Christian could never, under any circumstances, be a "good Christian." It would have had to be Jesus Christ, and no one is. The final twist is Protestantism. There, the repression is brutal, and all that repressed energy explodes in a creative and conquering impulse unparalleled in history. Europe is uncomfortable in its own skin and must move forward. Its advance is unstoppable, as we have seen. The price is inherent unhappiness, feel of guilty, dissatisfaction. The result is evolution. Life seeks the best way to move forward. Happiness is not important, evolution is. What works succeeds.

@Someone here I'd say your problem is pretty obvious. You're trapped in your own mind. Most likely, your emotional situation within your family was, let's say, difficult, and you've built energetic barriers. At the time, they were protection; now they're a prison. It's not easy to open those kinds of prisons. The first step is to realize it and want to break it down.

@Someone here Open yourself to the essence of reality and you will see the essence of reality in others, not just the form

The self is a construct that occurs in the brain, has genetic bases and is as physical as your bones; it occurs by creating pre-established neural pathways, similar in all humans. It's distribution is more or less this: Prefrontal cortex: identity, control, planning Limbic system : emotion, attachment, fear Insula : bodily sense of “being someone” Cingulate cortex :conflict, self-observation Default mode network : narrative of self, past-future It starts at the age of 2, and it's fully established at the age of 5, but not totally closed/matured until the age of 25. The self is built by symbolic language. "Mine", "inside", "you". Without language there is not narrative self. Also by memory. Without memory there is not continuity, nor identity And over all by the basics genetic implanted needs: attachment and validation: how they look at me , how they love me, how they reject me. And over over all: fear. The self has its root in the need of self protection. And you said that this is just a silly misunderstanding? Ha ha ha . Quite silly, sure Awakening, enlightenment, as you want to name it, is not the realization of the so silly misunderstanding of the reality, that YOU realized, it's the perfect alignment of the hiper complex structures that build the perfect sistem of the human self

The point would be to fully understand what enlightenment means. What I see is that it means being open to your true nature. This doesn't imply that you're an ascetic or someone who doesn't desire, but rather that you've managed to synchronize your energetic structure so that it doesn't close off. But you are still you, a human with a mental structure, a body, etc. Your true nature isn't a "you," it isn't someone who does, nor is it absolute consciousness; it's total openness. You truly are that, but the manifestation of that is now a human, so the one who wants things is the human. Even the one who is conscious is the human (I know no one will agree with this). Absolute openness doesn't want things; it is absolute openness. It isn't something; it's the absence of limits. It isn't grasped by the mind; it opens when, deep within the structure of your mind, there is a hole, not a definition.

Void is a very bad term ,It's been grating in my mind ever since I wrote it. It's a term that closes. The absolute is openness, period.

That's not because that reason; it's because forms don't arise based on a divine plan, they arise through structural coherence with the totality of infinite forms. If you reach a state of total enlightenment, you can't do anything paranormal at all; the only change you can make is in your inner energetic structure. And not even that; it's the other way around: the change in your energetic structure is what can make enlightenment happen. Really is more nothing, in the sense that Imagine mixing all of that together and expanding it without limit. What remains is a bottomless, boundless void. It's total potential, but the absolute itself isn't something. If it is something, it's because it's not yet absolute. It's simply openness. If you think about it, it's impossible to grasp. If you take a psychedelic and your mind isn't prepared, the experience will be either horrific nihilism or your mind will find a way to avoid confronting it. If your mind has released enough baggage, total openness is total freedom, and it's perceived as totality, but it's not a will, entity, intelligence, divinity. All that are possibilities that arise, but not the absolute. The only final realization is the openess to the absolute, and for that our mind need to be free of the need of "something". It's not easy, but could be not so difficult if it were clear, not a mess.

The point is that being unlimited means having no center or boundaries. This means that any will or intelligence is something that emerges in the Absolute, not the Absolute itself. Seems unimportant but it's essential. Your question is: if the unlimited cannot desire, would that be a limit? The answer is that any desire is local, not absolute. A desire is limited by definition. If you want to create a mental framework that makes openness to the Absolute possible, you have to understand that the Absolute cannot have any quality except being unlimited. The moment you say, "The Absolute creates reality out of love," you have introduced limits in every direction. The formulation that doesn't limit would be: Form arises as an inevitable expression of the Absolute because there is nothing to limit it. And any will is a form.

Sure, what we are is an energetic pattern developing and constantly changing, and that change can take different directions. But if we're talking about enlightenment, the point is to dilute the density enough to realize our essential nature. This nature is total openness, and to open yourself to it, we have to be free of any identification. The slightest thing closes you off. Opening yourself to the totality for a moment allows a progressive restructuring of our structure, which little by little becomes more transparent. The problem is that if you get stuck in a trap like identifying with being consciousness or whatever, it happens like a river dam. There's an expansion, but of your ego.

Thanks for appreciating. The problem isn't just that they express their ideas as dogma; it's that if you try to have an in-depth conversation about the points they present, they either get angry or do what James does when he's at a dead end: turn the conversation around and say, "You're suffering a lot, brother, I love you. Let go of all that mental mess and be free ❤️." Let's see, I present ideas like: "Form is created by coherent, interwoven patterns." You might reply: "That's impossible because where does the first pattern come from?" Perfect! That's exactly what I want; challenge my vision so I can develop it and see where it fails. But nobody's going to do that; they're just going to get angry, lie, and try to appear "more"

It's very simple, you are not god in the sense that is not a creator or a center. If it were, it would be limited. It's so obvious that seem weird that people don't see it. The main difficulty in spirituality is dissolving the center, then people take psychedelic and expand their ego. God as creator is ego expansion. You are "God" in the sense that you are the unlimited appearing as a form, but the unlimited doesn't "wants". Contemplate it , it's absolutely simple and obvious. If the absolute wants, it would be relative. The absolute is total, and you, the human, are a possibility that appears because the coherence with the totality of the form . Seems a small difference, but it's the difference between the chain and the freedom

@Ishanga Anyone can say whatever they want if it comes from a place of honesty, but if it stems from a need to appear "more", it's exhausting. Most people involved in spirituality are driven by narcissism, which is why it's such a complicated issue. I speak about this because, for me, it's a way to refine my understanding. It's an exercise in comprehension. It's essential to achieve a conceptual framework free of inconsistencies that lead to closure; not everything is about energy practice, there's also mental practice. It's essential, and it's not formulated. No spiritual tradition explain clearly this matter, and it's possible to do it.

You could be enlightened, drug addict, rapist, anything, then we can talk about it, but if you tell me when I question any statement to have a real conversation: lovely brotha, you are on deep sleep because love is everything and I'm before birth because love is so lovely 😍 😍 😍 😍, I love you so much, I hope you stop your deep suffering, then if I have not a punching bag close to hit it during at least 3 hours, maybe I can't avoid some stupid responses. I try to avoid, really, but sometimes I fail. The solution is don't talk with narcissist, but almost everyone who's in spirituality are