Breakingthewall

Exactly Usually are misleading , they imply that reality is not real and that there is another, higher reality that is. It would be more accurate to say forms and formlessness, for example. Form is not false, it's limited. Limited doesn't mean false, means limited. It's not less real than unlimited, it's just limited. Real and unreal are adjectives that categorizes reality, so they are absolutely wrong. Spirituality is absolutely wrong formulated, that's why nobody understands it, because it's impossible to understand. What changes is the form, the formless can't change. The form and the formless are not two different categories are two aspects of reality. The formless is essence, form is appearance. Reality always has an appearance or form, since "always" implies time, and time is equivalent to form. Time means delay between changes. Without delay there is no change; a limit on the speed of change is necessary for it to be change. Then "always" change and form are because the the interval between changes is outside of time; it does not exist. Existing is a verb, means happening. Existence is the expression of reality, that is absence of limitations, openess, absolute being It's the same as the self and dual consciousness. There is always a self and dual consciousness from the perspective of the self and dual consciousness, since the interval without consciousness is not conscious of itself. The point is to understand that the self is not someone, not a soul or a subject, and conciseness is not something, just a form that the reality takes; it is a consequence of a center that appears when reality reflects upon itself, creating a self-preserved universe that operates within the framework of the primary universe, what we call life. Reality don't need consciusness, it's not consciusness. Consciousness is a form of the reality that happens when center that register the reality appears. In the unlimited possibilities are infinite centers that register the reality, all are the same, the reality in a form.

In other words, experience is reality structured in a certain way. Duality, a self-preserving system that creates a center which registers reality, creating an experience, a becoming to which continuity and meaning are given. But that is not reality; it is a form of reality. Reality without that center or self is exactly the same as with it, only without registering differences. Opening yourself to what reality is without a center or self is enlightenment. Reality is something, because it is, it is totality. It is not definable; you can be it but not thinking it. You already are it, just remove the veil and that's it.

The point is to see that the self is a center that registers reality, and thus experience arises. Therefore, one self is the same as another self, just a center. As you said, without a self there is no experience, because experience is reality in a certain dualistic way. The point is to see that reality is not experience, but rather that experience is made of reality, experience is reality in an specific structure. So what's reality without experience? Reality without center, or without self. What's that? Enlightenment.

Well I should said that this is just my perspective. Regarding your question, (again just my perspective) there cannot be an eternal alternation of blue and green because if there were, that would be your reality now and it isn't. Therefore, if it were to happen, it would have to have a beginning, and everything that has a beginning has an absolute limit, then it's limited, and therefore also has to have an end, without any other possibility. More than that, if now your reality were that alrernance, it implies a limit between blue and green, so it's a limited reality and this implies an inevitable end or a change of frequency. Only the limitless can be absolutely limitless

Reality is neither an illusion nor a dream. That would imply a subject with certain characteristics performing an action, dreaming, which is interrupted, and that subject realizes that this reality was false and that their reality upon waking, which is different, is real. This is impossible. If "God" were to realize that everything was a dream, "realizing" would be another dream. The absolute total is not an entity, not someone who chooses, decides, or acts; it is reality itself, absolute being. Absolute means without limitation, and without limitation means without attributes or actions. Reality simply is. What appears are manifested possibilities.

Any state, sensation, existence, or universe must be limited, since in the absence of limits there is the absolute, which is not something, but total openness, the unfathomable void, the nothingness that is everything, however you want to call it. Therefore, any limited reality carries its own limit; it cannot be eternal because that would be unlimited, and it is limited by definition.

I said it because you and the user ishanga were talking about Shiva We should define what we mean by "God." I would say that for most people, God is an entity that creates reality. If we qualify this and say that reality is God, then obviously everyone believes in God since they believe in reality. What is not possible is a separate, creator entity (in my opinion)

I told you at the beginning what Shiva means the unlimited in this conversation , not in general. Sure it has different meanings. Those names are just a way to express an idea, not something rigid . But benign is not a bad adjective because the unlimited is not evil or selfish, is just unlimited and it's perceived as freedom, perfection, glory. It's not like: if it's unlimited it includes the evilness. No, it's just absolute being. Possible evilness arises in the form, it's an appearance.

Because talking about this topic makes me strive for maximum clarity, and I like the feeling, like a sport.

Just communication

Me, because I prefer be open than closed, contracted, because that feels as deep suffering

Because then the reality would be limited to black and silence. To create a mental image, imagine a silent, black frame. You open it. You keep opening it. At a certain point, the opening is complete; you can't open it because it has no borders. That opening contains all possible possibilities because it has no borders, and it is exactly you. It's extremely simple.

I only follow the necessary alignment that makes possible that you are open to your true nature. Only you know what that alignment demands.

It is created by the absence of limits. A reality that is always symmetrical, without change, would be a reality limited to being limitless. A reality without limits creates infinite apparent limits because it is impossible for it not to, since it has no limits. The fact of having no edges or bottom makes reality unstable by definition in its appearance and absolutely stable in its essence, since its essence is precisely the absence of limits.

Absolute reality, Shiva if we continue with those names, is not created; it is simply limitlessness. This is absolutely obvious if you open yourself to it. The fact that there are no limits makes the void absolute potential, and absolute potential without limits is equivalent to absolute being. Relative reality is created by the apparent limitation that can occur within the unlimited, since it precisely has no limits. Therefore, at some point, a fluctuation arises, a rupture of symmetry, the absolute reflecting upon itself. This makes the appearance of time inevitable because if the fluctuation is instantaneous, it is not a fluctuation. A delay is necessary for a process to occur. Without limits, this process expands into an infinity of coherent relationships limited by time as far as possible. In our reality, time or delay is c, the speed of light, the absolute limit of this universe.

Shiva is the totality, the absence of limits. By the very fact of having no limits, it is everything and nothing at the same time. It is everything because it is total, it is nothing because there is no differentiation or process. No one creates Shiva; it is inevitable. Kali is limitation, specifically time, which is the creator of form, the essential limit that allows for processes, for becoming. Without process, there is no form, only undifferentiated openness. No one creates Kali; it happens because there are no limits. A reality without change would be limited to being limitless. The process occurs, symmetry is broken, two states confront each other, and the reality of form explodes.

The void is the absence of internal or external limits, of process, becoming, , movement. It is the absence of time. Absolute depth or total openness. Enlightenment is opening yourself to the void that underlies form and realizing that it is everything, only unquantifiable. Then you realize that form is the void taking on an appearance. The void is your true nature but it's not empty, it's full because it is.

Those who seek understanding don't always do so because something is lacking; they do it for pleasure, to expand their potential. It's the same as when you raise your children, play sports, or cross Antarctica by sled. It's simply about flowing with your true nature.

It's essential to avoid getting stuck on a dead end. If you want to open yourself to your true, limitless nature, you have to understand your limited structure, its dynamics, and its foundations. The deeper you understand, the more natural the opening becomes.

The point is that change equates to time, which equates to a limit, and that limit has an exact value in our reality: c, the speed of light. Every change or fluctuation in our universe is limited by c. Without that absolute limit, processes wouldn't be processes; they would be instantaneous. c is the limit of information transmission in this universe, and that limit makes things exactly as they are. c is time. Time is not relative; it is absolute; it is c. What is relative is how two processes moving relative to each other experience time. Any manifested reality requires a limit to information transmission, because without that limit, everything would be simultaneous, and therefore there would be nothing differentiated. A universe begins when the total symmetry of the void is broken, and to break that symmetry, a fluctuation, a differentiation, is necessary. For differentiation to exist, there must be a limit to information transmission. Without that limit, there are no different states or vibrations of any kind. Once that limit appears, reality explodes. Time, or Kali in Hinduism, is the creator of form. Without time, there is no form. Time is the necessary delay for a process to exist. Process is equivalent to time, and to manifestation. There is no change without time, and without change, there is no existence. Any possible reality involves time; time is an absolute, it is form. Form = time

What is the illusion? The self who believes that is a center. It's not an illusion, it's an energetic node that happens in humans by default to operate, evolve and survive. Why that self wants enlightenment? Because it perceive that is prisoner, it's a closed perspective. How this self can open it's perspective and stop being a tensional node that perceives itself as a center? Changing it energetic flow, releasing the contraction, the fear. Has this any relationship with knowing that it's not real? Zero. This is in another ontological level. Real and unreal are just labels that happens in the comparative level. Enlightenment happens in the energetic level, and the energy that closes the self is as real as the energy that builds the body, the difference is that the energy of the self is not confined, it's more free, with possibility of change of frequency

Here we have another genius to bring level to this forum. Sad .

The absence of delusion is being open to what you are. It's not something definable; it's an absolute reality. It's not a matter of not thinking, but of putting thoughts in their proper place. Thoughts are mental structures with meaning. Thought itself is reality; meaning is an interpretation. You can deactivate meaning and remain in substance, and then return to meaning at will. Then you know that any meaning is an approximation. You can try to approximate it as closely as possible, but you know it's an exercise, not reality. Reality is substance. Thoughts as emerging structures are substance; as meaning, they are something that points in a direction. These are two different ontological levels. You can open yourself to the level of absolute truth right now, expanding your mind without limit. Then delusion is impossible because you are not at the level of delusion.

I don't think so, fight hard for life is beautiful. Not for the results but for the fight itself. Our nature as humans compels us to broaden our horizons, to delve deeper, to focus to the fullest. The result is irrelevant; giving your all is what matters. If your mind and heart are open, you understand that life expects you to give your best. Expansion is the nature of life. If you think form is an illusion, you are dead; form is the dance of the totality. If you don't want to dance, you shrink. Nothing is static; you either advance or you are crushed.

I don't get what you mean