Breakingthewall

You can't understand even the more simple. It's amazing. You dont see that there is double intention, irony, etc? I'm getting desperate about posting here, it's like amazing. Anyway I like to speak about this topic, if no one understands nothing, that's life

That's good that you are condescending with silly kids like me, thanks, but I'm giving my best in every post. My level is low and maybe I deserve being expulsed, but it's what I can do. Why don't you try do correct me and teach me to be enough?

Yes but "you" giving meaning means a relationship of causality that comes from the big bang, then the first cells, the complex organisms, brains, consciousness, until the feeling of a kick in your balls that appears as "bad". Even you are god, god gives that meaning due a relationship of causality, so it could be said that things happen, nothing else

Cessation of ego has to relationship is a myth and it wouldn't mean enlightenment,are different planes or dimensions. It's common to confuse both and thinking that enlightenment means having no preferences. It's bit more nuanced, it's placed yourself in a level where there are no differences, for a while. In the plane where only being is. Just to align your ego and be form perceiving the unlimited

What you call ego is a psychological structure, software generated by hardware created over 4 billion years of biological evolution that creates an experience and gives it meaning. "Reality" is two rocks colliding in space and also the experience of fear you had with LSD. There isn't an ego on one side and reality on the other; rather, the ego is reality in ego mode. Fear or suffering are the emotional burdens that give experience an absolute vector toward survival. If you operate on your brain and eliminate the circuits that make something important, nothing will matter, and that will be reality. Now, with those circuits, the reality is that it's important not to be eaten by lions. Reality is what it is, period.

Truth is the absence of deception. Absolute truth is the absence of structure, because any structure would be relative truth.

The separate self exist, is a biological reality, a psychological structure, not an illusion. Those people are mixing the absolute with the relative, that's why all the spiritual teachings are a mess that only lead to confusion. What is certain is that a dense self impedes or hinders openness, while an aligned, clean, transparent ego structure, free of lies and contradictions, allows it or makes it easier. The point is that the absolute and the relative are two aspects of the same reality; neither is false. The one who wants to open up to the absolute is the relative self, and wants to do so to stop fearing and living in lack. You intuitively understand that it closes and you gradually refine your psychic structure, but there is always a human self that knows it is an organism that must be preserved. To say that this is an illusion is absolutely wrong, who defines illusion? The "illusion" itself. That's a mess that trap everyone. Anyway, this is the spirituality that has been successful . No one achieve openess, but it's still believed. For example, don't you detect that adyashanti is full of lie? It smell from kilometers. We could do an analysis if you want. Also Tolle, or Ralston. It's totally obvious

Well, if they mean that the fact of being is the same independent of what happens then could be, but it's a formulation that leads to confusion, and from my intuition its real goal is appearing special, not real communication. Ego doesn't disappear by the fact of being open to the absolute because ego is a real human structure, not a dream or a thought. It's a structure that comes from the evolution of the social mammals, and those holy teachers want to be alpha by spirituality Definitions are a tool to allow the real actual openess to the absolute. Some nuances close, others allows openness. Any definition belongs to the relative, it's made by opposition. The absolute is precisely absolute, it's just the fact of being , but this implies everything, it's total. If you can really open yourself to it you will see it without doubt, the problem is that human structure closes by default by focusing in the relative, it's inevitable. Then you have to do a very subtle work to clean any closure. Then everything seems very easy and obvious, but before seemed a mystery

Because saying that it has infinite hability implies someone doing something, when the unlimited happens inevitably because there aren't absolute limits, not because it "wants". The difference is crucial, one closes, another opens. "Happening" and "being" are indivisible Beauty, love, perfection, freedom, are ideas that happen in the human relative form that points to the fact of absence of limitations. If you take it as absolute definitions, your mind get closed. "Beauty" means absence of flaw, freedom absence of boundaries, love absence of rejection . All of them means absence of limitations. If you are open to the absolute, there is only openess, absolute being. Then from the comparative mind you could say that of perfection etc, but it's confusing.

Relative change is not happening "within the changeless", like if the changeless is something that creates an illusion, or a container "where" the change happens. That's the dualism called non duality. The changeless is the inherent property of the change and the change the inevitable manifestation of the changeless. You could say that the changeless is the substance and the change the form, but substance and form are one. It's like saying: a knife is not real because really it's iron, not a knife. If you are a teacher and this is your teaching, you are teaching just confusión. Most of those teachers talk to appear superior, even they don't know it. Traditionally (and now) they were dependent from the support of the people who admires and respected them, so appear "cute mysterious holy" was (is) a must. The absolute is the fact of being, that is inherent to any existence. The relative is the actual manifestation of that fact. The problem (being human) is that due our emotional nature we are totally absorbed by the relative form. "Enlightenment" means putting aside the relative, deactivate for a while it emotional charge and being totally open to the absolute fact of being without any structure or limit. You could call it "perfection", "love", blahbla but really "perfection" means just absence of imperfection, then better calling if total, less confusing. That doesn't mean denying the form because denying the form happen from the form 😅 this is so obvious that makes me sick. Really I can't avoid to react when I read those explanations.

I did a thread yesterday titled "a meditation", I think the explanation could be there. Indescribable mystery....no, that's obvious reality. Absolutely obvious, zero mystery, you can be absolutely open to it exactly now. You can do in every day

Means: I'm special and you aren't. Adya is special and do cute don't you think? So holy. Look, "happen" is a succession of causality, relative change. If you say: "There seems to be change, but I, being so cute, know that there isn't really any, since being is immutable," you're confusing the relative with the absolute. At an absolute level, there is no change because being simply is, period. At a relative level, there is always change because being expresses itself in constant relational flux. Real means that is, then according bohr those things aren't? If reality is ultimately a mathematical possibility unfolding, that doesn't mean it isn't real; rather, that this is reality. The problem with these people is that they don't understand that the real/unreal dichotomy occurs within reality; in fact, it occurs within your conceptual mind, which is an expression of reality. Therefore, it is a fundamental error to make that relative distinction about the absolute within the absolute. Einstein also was soooo cute and special. Lovely Einstein with genius haircut. He wrote this quote in a letter of condolence to the family of his close friend Michele Besso, who had just died. Einstein was already old and ill (he would die a month later). He tried to use Minkowski's spacetime physics to offer a poetic consolation: "Do not be sad, Michele still exists in the four-dimensional block, the past is not lost." The motive was let's say "noble", but the choice of the word "illusion" was... well. I wouldn't like to receive that letter, it's an insult (from my humble opinion) Anyway, In the theory of Relativity, time is another dimension. The past, present, and future exist together in a four-dimensional geometry (the so-called Block Universe). From the perspective of pure mathematical equations, there is no preferred arrow of time. But to jump from there to saying that time is an illusion is foolish. The separation between past and future exists and operates within the software of thermodynamics. Causality is a fact, calling it illusion is just a mental distinction that happens in the causality. That's obvious right? Of course, we are the reality happening Of course, that's obvious . Subject and object are something that appears in this dimension of being that we call life or consciousness. It is perfectly obvious that the subject and the object are the same: reality, which splits in two to perceive itself. You are the eye of reality looking at itself, and that eye observes itself. This fact is a reality occurring, not an illusion. "Illusion" is only a concept that appears within the observing structure, therefore it cannot define the whole. Please....this potentiality is precisely the reality. They use the word "reality" like "solid" or "definitive". Real means that exists, That is. I think that they tried to explain a mathematical concept to the public using common language without being focused in the real precision of language

Spirituality imprisons you because it tells you that form is a dream, an illusion, or a falsehood, and in doing so, it fragments you. If you are fragmented, you cannot broaden your focus. Form and substance are one; there is no being without form, nor form without being. The issue is not denying form as unreal, but rather placing it in the background, when by default it is in a total and all-consuming foreground. Statements like "the self is unreal" place you on the plane of real vs. unreal. The self simply is. Like anything else. Unreal or real are at the level of form; at the level of absolute being, there is absolute being.

Sit down and focus your attention on the fact of being now, of existing. Not on your breath, since that divides you between subject and object; it will never work. Nor on your thoughts, since that places you as an external observer of your thoughts, which are forms you take, not forms you see. They are you being a thought. So, focus on the fact of being. Not on consciousness, since consciousness is being aware, a relationship between two states, the possibility of being conscious or not. Forget consciousness, dreams and ego. Forget everything except the actual fact of being. This now is the fact of being, without any definition except that it is. Now there is no breath, no consciousness, no thoughts; there is the fact of being. Everything is the fact of being. Then the boundaries fall away; you slip in an instant from form to substance. In substance, there are no differences; you are, period. Being reveals itself as total, unfathomable, and full of power. It is, and in the fact of being it's affirmative, and its joy is absolute because nothing limits it, there is not stain, it's absolutely clean, bottomless and perfect. It has no beginning and no end; it is inevitable, total, absolute, and it is exactly what you are. Simple. In fact, absolutely simple.

You choose it when it happens, same than someone choose being a toxic narcissist, it happens. It's the drive of what you are. Maybe for you 5 meo is nothing, worthless. It depends of your psychological structure. Seems that yours is low density, natural for spirituality. That's why your intuition detects the mistakes without a lot of mental analysis. For most of people that's impossible, they believe what sounds safe for their ego and they integrate that structure in their psyche. Imo the real problem in spirituality is that the teachers aren't accurate, all of them make mistakes that trap the minds About 5 meo what I was seeking is the act of disintegrating my psyche and its subsequent reintegration, over and over again. I wasn't looking to see God or anything like that; I was looking to completely break down my psychological structure and gradually understand what it was, so I could be free, able to dissolve its barriers at will. The psyche is not just thoughts, are energetic structures that make you being yourself, it's very difficult to understand from inside, 5 meo gives the possibility of seeing from outside

I like to contrast view with anyone interested in spirituality, but some people are unbearable, only ego, too narrow mind. Anyway it's interesting to see the psychology of people that is involved in this topic. Any interaction shows new nuances

I shouldn't answer , you are like a kid. Last answer.

Then shut up and be

Exactly, the only possibile knowledge is being. You always are, but humans are closed by fear and by the inherent structure subject object that happens by the fact of a conscious organism. Dissolving the separation and open yourself to the unlimited implies being the unlimited, that is, dissolving any limits

Limitless being is not grandiosity because "being" is not an entity, is a fact. It's not big or small, it's just limitless. The infinite does things then, like recognitions? And now it knows that there is not self and that means enlightenment? So before the infinity wasn't enlightened? Maybe it's more simple, you are a human with a self, and that self can be open or closed. That self is a real evolutive structure that is happening. Maybe it's not permanent, but it's real now.

Was a drive of conquest, or better liberation. I felt myself prisoner from fear and was absolutely unbearable, better death than trapped life. I felt it from I was a kid. I never doubted about doing those things because there was no choice. Same than doing a lot of psychedelics, like doing 5meo dmt like 100 times in a year. It was necessary, nothing to negotiate, my intuition was absolute. I had to break the wall without possible choice. If there is no choice everything become simple. I knew that Martin Ball had horrible deadly insomnia after those practices, 5 meo touches deep your energetic configuration, but my feeling was direct without doubt, then nothing to do to avoid it, I can't control myself, I do what I want, then I don't try to control. Now I do 5meo and I feel it very bad, toxic, even in low doses, so I never do anymore

There is not formless awareness, any awareness is awareness of relative change. That's the mistake of non duality, they affirm that there is something, the consciousness, that is the foundation of reality. Consciousness is just an arising that happens in reality because it's possible

There is a process happening in the reality, or the reality in the form of a complex process, called Wilhelm that has the drive of self preservation inherited from the origins of life and that has also the expansive drive proper of the reality itself

That's wrong and this is the obvious mistake of all spirituality kind Tolle, Ralston, etc. The ego is built upon real evolutionary structures, neural pathways created in deep time. For example, if your parents reject you, your system creates a persistent structure that translates into suffering. Why? If a tuna is rejected by its parents, it doesn't matter, nor does a severely autistic child. They don't even grasp the idea. The entire ego is a edifice built upon evolutionary pillars created for group cohesion. And the suffering that occurs because of this is real: your cortisol levels rise, your defenses weaken, cognitive functions are blocked. You can even die. Psychological suffering is not an illusion, that's very simplistic vision. Suffering is suffering, and it's always a signal to produce movement, change.

If you do a little research on physics and how the physicists arrived at their conclusions through mathematical logic, you see how strange it is that the human mind can understand the laws and equations that define reality, but then you realize that everything that exists is relational, and mathematical logic is relation. The human mind evolved for hunting in groups and all that; the brain of a scientist is the same as that of a Paleolithic guy, and this mind can accurately understand quantum superposition, for example.