Breakingthewall

Consciousness doesn't create nothing , it's an structure that happens that appears as perception of reality. If the object of consciousness where still, no change, then it would be like anesthesia, unconsciousness, because that object would be nothing. "Something" is relative change of state, and consciousness is the perception of change. Existence is relative change.

The point is to experience a shift in your center. Normally, because we are social beings, we operate from a social perspective. We define ourselves as who we are in relation to others. It's not that we do it consciously, but rather that we function at that frequency absolutely all the time, and this creates a vector focused to inside, to feed your self image. If, through meditation, you begin to step outside of that context and truly perceive yourself as a process occurring in reality, you gradually shift your operational position. It's not that you mentally see yourself as a process, blah blah, but that you truly detach yourself completely from the social umbilical cord and see yourself as a manifestation occurring in the unfathomable abyss of existence, without foundation or knowledge. Without God or anything, total abyss. This requires a detached and disruptive attitude. At a certain point, you begin to operate this way all the time, and then your psyche ceases to be self-referential and comparative and becomes expansive.

Nobody like nightmares, are so disturbing. A nightmare is not when you dream with adventures but when the feeling is shit, sad, humiliating, fear, being less, being trapped, isolated. For example if you dream that life is a trap and everything is plain, dead. Or getting glued In something without possibility of moving, or that you are a kid and your family hates you, those possibilities that are "bad" without doubt. Human genetic programming putting the dial in the direction "bad" .

I would go further. The point of life is not to take but to give. I don't mean giving as do service and that but like the vector of yourself. If that vector is to inside, to take, you create division, and an ego who suffers lack. If the vector is outside, expansión, yo are one with the reality, the self image blurs and disappear and psychological suffering dissolves. Maybe what happened to you is that you adopted that vector for a couple of days and then you got back to your usual orientation, inside , taking, the default mode for any human nowadays

If a kid is loved then they will teach him how to live and how to face frustration, unless their parents are retarded and they think that he can be a kid for ever. Love doesn't mean be soft but want the best for the other. Well said. In fact discipline is love.

For consciousness to exist, there must be structure. Without a record of experience that differentiates past and present, there is no consciousness. If your memory were absolute zero, there would be no consciousness; you wouldn't perceive change because to perceive it, you have to register the previous state. Furthermore, there must be perception of inside out, object and subject, which can dissolve, and this is what we call a meditative state. But first, it must exist. Consciousness is not something; rather, it is the result of a structure.

What I realized is that when you need sex a lot and you want to have sex hours with a lot of women, that is because you live isolated and sex is the moment, the way, where you get some connection. It's not that you want sex just because you are horny, it's psychological. The time having sex is time when the isolation disappear. But when you break that bubble that isolated you, in a moment that need disappear. Then sex become something absolutely different. It's so crazy how could change your way of being/feeling, an absolute change It's extremely difficult to see it when you are inside, because your mind is full time looking for, wishing, chasing

Because i realized that I would take full responsibility of the kid without possibility of avoiding it, and that girl was a narcissist, very toxic, mean, user, hater, empty inside, but she was hot and she lived close my place. I wouldn't have a day together even being paid. In the past I used to act like that, I had sex with anyone I could if she's hot and she accepts, without seeing them as humans, just for sex, if I went dinner was like obligation, lie like habit, etc. Really I used to be antisocial in many ways, not just that, luckily I realized I was living isolated behind a protective barrier that was like a prison, and I broke it down. That's crazy, when you are inside you see normal acting in a way that really is very sick . I think that is very common nowadays, we are a brunch of sick narcissist

Once I thought that I got pregnant a girl that I use to have sex sometimes and who was very Christian and never would have an abortion and that night I awake and I said absolutely seriously: god, if I can choose if she's pregnant of I die, please, kill me exactly right now. After that I never consider have sex with a girl who I don't respect as a human and I can be at least not horrified if she's pregnant. We trivialize sex as if it were a game, and that demonstrates our immaturity and profound stupidity.

Change your approach. Instead of focusing on whether the girl you're talking to likes you, focus on evaluating whether you like her. Stop idealizing women just because they're hot. Look through the social mask and truly understand where she's operating from. Having sex with a model with a perfect body who can only admire herself in the mirror is boring and even humiliating. You might feel like a winner because of it, but it just means you're an idiot. Stop being an idiot, and the women will come.

If there's a kind of transmission, it's like you understand their feeling in the moment, because they speak during moments of genuine meditation. So, more than the logical content of their message, they transmit the idea, the feeling, with words that come to them at that moment. Therefore, you're not going to analyze exactly what they say to find errors because it's spontaneous discourse. It's different when someone writes or defends points very clearly, like saying that the self is a mental concept, etc. When I first became interested in spirituality, I did a lot of research, and everything seemed distorted to me, with a fundamental error. I didn't know exactly what it was, but something was amiss. In Krishnamurti, Adyashanti, Ralston, Spira, Mooji, etc it was a feeling, as if they were starting from the wrong premise.

Yes you could say that being is absolute because it's not an structured understanding, it's precisely what remains without structures, Being without limits. Then you can contrast it logically and realize that being has not opposite. If you want to open yourself to the fact of absolute being you have to collapse all the structures in you, including the observer. But if you say that you are imagining 5meo, thats a structural understanding. In one side you, in other 5 meo and in the middle the action of imagining. If you realize that you have to contrast it logically, because it could be a delusional feeling. How could you? 5 meo and you have something in common, both are. But if you dissolve everything except being there is no 5 meo neither you , there is only being. If you remains as a doer, means that there is still an structure, then you are falling in a mistake confusing relative with absolute

Once I had MDMA and I realized that all the girls in the club wanted sex with me, I have that indubitable feeling. Then I ask some and, well, I had to nuance my realization. This is shocking but feelings are subjetive. They make you believe what you need to believe to feel good. But then reality is not so kind.

Nothing, sorry for being idiot. Anyway, anyone has his own vision and opinion

@Mellowmarsh artificial is natural. Humans are something that appears in the reality, not out of the reality, as Krishnamurti implies

Maybe it's not for you. Read this: reality is not real. Now nothing is happening. God is nothing but it's absolute love. Better?

I already did two messages above

Read it. Krishnamurti says that the present is the truth and the past false, then the kid sees the bird and that is true, but if he interpret about the bird that's false, because comes from the past. Well, the brain, the bird, the perception, everything has a previous condition, same than interpretation, but interpretation happen now. For k the interpretation is out of the reality, the reality is without interpretation. He's totally wrong, creating dualities all time. He also say that humans are wrong from thousands of years ago. Maybe life is also wrong, with all those killings. Remember to me when I read him with 17. He almost convinced me that searching and thinking is wrong. Then I decided that he was just a scammer , and today I ve been reading his conversation with bhom and I realized that I was totally right

Lets analyze this quote because represent the thought of Krishnamurti. According to him, the direct image of the bird is the essence of the bird. This image is formed by the posterior lobe of the child's brain based on the photons captured by the retina. According to Jiddu, this is the truth. However, if the child learns things about the bird, which are stored in the frontal lobe and the default mode network, and the structure created by the frontal lobe is superimposed on the image of the bird created by the posterior lobe, this is false. So, according to him, the posterior lobe is the truth and the frontal lobe the lie? That's strange. Perhaps he doesn't understand that any perception requires interpretation. Without minimal interpretation, you wouldn't even see the bird; you wouldn't distinguish it from the background. You would see a mixture of colors and disconnected sounds. A cat, if it sees a bird, interprets it as food. Perhaps it isn't enlightened. If I take 7 gr of mushroom I don't see a bird, I see a brunch of colors and waves. It doesn't seem more true than the bird. It's just without structure . Krishnamurti's entire discourse has absolutely no relation to enlightenment. He's just a guy pretending to be mysterious and profound, accumulating nonsense upon nonsense. His skill in convincing some people of his genius is commendable. The perception is the reality in the form of perception. The interpretation is the reality in the form of interpretation. Deep meditation is a state that is possible being human and interpretation is another. No one is false, and of course, no one is unreal, out of the reality. Meditation is the ability to dissolve all the limits, then the perception becomes unlimited. That doesn't mean that you perceive unlimited things and you are omniscient god, but that the fact of unlimited being is perceived by itself. Interpretation is the ability to perceive the limits and it's not false, it's limited. And Krishnamurti is a professional scammer, same than almost all the gurus

What is the purpose of that mess? All that are conceptual structures creates by the logical mind, with the problem that are not logical.

Sure, but it's different if you imagine it than if it's real. Look, this is crazy: if you imagine that you cut your hand with a knife, after your hand is still there, but if you really cut it, then no more hand.

How could you realize that you are imagining reality? Like in some point high of drugs you say: I'm imagining reality? Then your feeling is that's this is the absolute truth? You would agree that this is a subjetive appreciation right?

You said that you have cats right? You can't see them? Only the word "cat"? Like if you were a computer?

What is important is that you feel safe, then believe what makes you feel good, that what spirituality is about right? To give hope and sell books

Wow so amazing explanation. Yeah you convince me, I was wrong, sorry. Charisma is everything. If someone with the juddus look said, it's directly true. James the wise man approved.