Breakingthewall

That's normal; it's an evolutionary mechanism implanted deep within the human psyche. You have to be careful about trying to erase this with spirituality, because you'd be doing what's called spiritual bypassing: creating a spiritual ego that's more fragile, false, and unbearable than the previous one. As Jesus said, "Render unto God the things that are God's, and unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's." It's necessary to satisfy that part of your psyche that tells you, "You're not enough." It's because you have to do a work in yourself; you must improve, work, move forward, give your best. Then comes spirituality. Thats life, no shortcuts. If you don't fight you are dead, even it seems that you are alive. In the other hand, mushrooms are great, every trip is useful, at least for me

Anyone can easily understand the logic of spirituality. Reality exists. You exist. Therefore, you are reality in a concrete form. Form begins and ends, but reality does not. Therefore, if you perceive yourself as that which exists in a form, and not as a separate form, then death is the end of form, not the end of what you truly are. The problem is that it's not enough to simply understand this; you really have to open your perspective to what reality is, and this is difficult because form is so all-consuming.

I would say that the initial motivation is almost always: my life is largely suffering, and I also see that I'm going to die in the future, and this is something very strange that I can't even consider real. One day you read a book and some things resonate with you; besides, these spiritual people tell you that the end of suffering is near, and that death can be transcendended. It sounds interesting enough to try to understand to what extent there's any truth in all of it. Then, the mind is twisted and the traps of the ego are difficult to avoid; only instinct will make you see them.

What about Iran? It's a country ruled by this people that you are talking about. The question again is: why iran hates Israel? What Israel did to Iran to be hated? The Palestinian conflict? Then, the christians should hate turkey because the Armenian genocide? Why not?

In 1950, these lands were populated only by Muslim Uyghurs. Since then, approximately 11 million Han Chinese have arrived, now comprising 45% of the population. The Uyghur Muslims rebelled several times, only to be repressed by the Chinese government, which interned millions in re-education camps. Now, a mild form of Islam is legal, where Ramadan is prohibited, as is wearing a beard. You won't see hijabs there and Sharia law is as you can imagine prohibited. No persecuting gay people or forced marriage to girls. There are mosques, but thousand have been demolished, and new ones must have traditional Chinese architecture, like pagodas. Could you imagine that the Jews do that to the Palestinian?

Sure. They're mortal enemies of the West because some settlers are expelling Palestinians from their land. But they're friends with Russia who leave Aleppo worse than Gaza and Chechenia even worse. Fine, stay in your own world of noble feelings. Like the Muslims. You bought the kids menu, enjoy it.

Yes I agree, it's difficult to know what can happen now, what are the reasons that led to this attack, I don't know, and neither do you. Perhaps we are smarter than Mossad, or perhaps not. Perhaps Israel has an existential fear of an Iran that is increasing its arsenal of high-tech missiles while clamoring for Israel's destruction as a fundamental principle of its Islamic republic. What i know is that Iran is governed by religious fanatics who murder anyone who protests, and Israel is a democracy where there is freedom of expression. Maybe for you Israel shouldn't exist, but it does, then, why don't recognize it, make business in peace and forget the hate? Iran has no trauma with Israel, but it's financing Hamas, Hezbollah, huties. Why?

@Raze what are you posting? Try to argue with your own words. Again: Why no Muslim country said absolutely no word, no one, zero, about the brutal colonization of the Chinese against Uyghur country, that erased the identity of a whole Muslim country, saying that islam is a mental disease, forbidding Ramadan, Muslim names, breads... No one word, no mention, and it's happening now. Then, why they so concerned about the Palestinian? Where is the difference? We already know that you can use Chatgpt. That's great, you do it very good. Congratulations. Then now try with your own words . It's not so easy but you will see that if you try, you can do. Yes, of course, emotional stuff. Victimhood, the children and that. The noble innocent Muslim fremen again the evil greedy hook nosed jew. And no word about what I questioned

I know that any real communication is impossible since I'm speaking with a mind colonized by an ideology. This conversation is just an exercise, not an attempt to convince. Iran is not a friendly neighbor of the Palestinians; they are Shiite Persians and the Palestinians are Sunni Arabs, and the most typical relationship between them is war. The fate of the Palestinians matters to Iran as much as that of the Sudanese: not at all. It's just an ideological tool to strengthen the radical Islamism that Iran promotes. The Palestinian are just a tool for Iran, to gain influence in the Muslim world. Nothing else, not noble principles that makes the noble ayatollahs fight and sacrifice for the Palestinians against the evil Jews. They need the Jews because without a mortal enemy they are nothing, they have not reason to exist. Furthermore, I've asked you many times why Iran never mentions the Chinese colonization of the Uyghurs and its direct attack on Islam. Why can Iran be friends with China but not with Israel? Why does Iran need a mortal enemy?

Enlightenment is what Ramana Maharshi, Basul, and many others spoke of. Sit in meditation and ask: What am I? What is reality? Don't ask with logic, nor answer with logic, but become the question. Be the question that pierces reality. What is reality? Observe, without mind. What is this? No logic will tell you; forget logic, it is irrelevant. Here and now, in absolute silence, what is this? Without fear, without projection, without any desire other than to see, then forget that desire, because desire leads you to the door but you can't pass with it, it's ultimately a door. Feel this moment without borders or bottom, relax all the contraction that defines you as an individual, relax your desire to be you, observe. What is this? Then it opens. You are that. It is unthinkable. Just do it, it's an action that you have to do, not a realization that you have to know. It's the end of the lack.

They're not their neighbors, they're 2,000 km away. Nobody cares if people are killed in other countries. Isn't that obvious? Iran's parliament constantly shouts "Death to Israel, Death to America," and they burn Israeli and US flags. Why? Don't you see they're fueling a rhetoric of absolute hatred, and their excuse is the Palestinian issue? Listen to yourself, saying that Israel is a evil because they killed schoolgirls. And the Russian in alepo, Chechenia? Where is the difference? You're the epitome of an emotional mind colonized by a good-versus-evil narrative that makes you feel like you're on the side of good, without any possible real understanding of the situation, since you've emotionally invested in that position. Ask yourself: why you can't answer what I said about the Uyghur? It's like you can't read that part. You answer about the Uyghurs telling that the Israelites are evil.

The question isn't mental. If you ask, "What is more real than this?" you're comparing something less real with something more real. That's a structured mind, and it will never lead you to anything other than another structure. The real question is to be absolutely present now, without any conceptual framework, and penetrate this, what is. If your meditation is deep, you'll perceive the contraction that comes with the need to be you, an individual that is. It's innate, a biological defense mechanism. Not conceptually but directly. Something energetic, absolutely real. If you're able to look directly at the fear of dissolution, merge with it, be one with it without conceptualizing it, at a certain point reality opens up. It's not mental, but energetic. It's not a realization, it's an action, or better a happening. Then the becoming becomes transparent, and this very moment reveals as total. If you want to define it the only definition is: reality is. Being is everything, has no bottom, and you are that. It's absolutely simple since it implies the dissolution of all the structures. If you say: I'm god creating, It's an structure, two relative points, god and creation. Maybe it's true, but relatively . It's irrelevant, just another structure. What you are is the absolute in a relative form, then if you want to be totally open to the absolute, any structure must disappear. Dissapear means become transparent, not activate. That's enlightenment, nothing else.

Ok, but why it's a problem for Iran? Why one of the essential foundations of their state is the hatred of Israel, which is 2000 km from their borders? Because Israel mistreat the Palestinians? Maybe because are Muslims as them? But the Uyghur are also Muslims oppressed by no Muslims. Why that's irrelevant for the Iranians? Where is the difference? You didn't answer. What would happen if Iran says: ok, we recognize Israel. In fact we like Israel a lot and we want to do business together, same than with the Chinese. What would affect that to Iran? Do you really think that they can't take this position because they feel sad for the Palestinians? Really do you think that the Iranians are enemies of Israel because Israel is evil, and are friends of china because china is good? Think about it carefully. This narrative is, well...not real, to be kind. Why don't to try to understand the real reasons of the matter, of the political dynamic in Middle east without the emotional thing? It's a scam

Sure, sure, genocidal evil Jews, shit, they are so bad, evil people, we all are so emotional hating them, that's clear. but my question is another: why the Iranians hate Israel and want their disappearance? Because they are bad with the Palestinian? So why the Iranians doesn't care about the Uyghurs, who are oppressed by the Chinese? Both, Palestinian and Uyghur are very far from their frontier and belong to another ethnicity. Then, why they are in excelent relationship with the Chinese and are mortal enemies of Israel? Try to answer without the emotional thing of the evil Jews that you hate so much, we already know that. Just a logical reasoning.

So, is invading Uyghur territory, repopulating it with ethnic Chinese, and erasing the Uyghurs' historical Muslim identity in concentration camps, in addition to effectively banning Islam, legitimate? It must be, since Iran and other Muslim countries are allies of China and never mention this fact. Instead, they are full of hatred toward Israel, which they believe must disappear because it is a murderous colonizer. Meanwhile, Chinese colonialism is considered good. Why? Really I can't understand the difference.

@Raze A brief comment about the Uyghurs: let's see what your Chatgpt says. China's first conquest of Uyghur territory dates back to the mid-18th century, but the definitive incorporation occurred in 1949. At that time, practically the entire population were Turkic Muslims, but from 1954 onwards, a huge migration of Han Chinese to the area began, eventually making up 45% of the population, that now are 26 million, in a surface aprox 5 times bigger than Germany. In their history, there have been multiple attempts at independence, the last in the 1990s, when there was a wave of attacks. Since then, the Chinese government has repressed any political dissent with an iron fist. Surveillance is total; it is not known exactly how many people were sent to re-education camps and how many died. Islam is completely suppressed; a watered-down version of Islam is permitted where Muslim names are prohibited, as is observing Ramadan in public, and wearing a beard. Mosques should have Chinese architecture, and Islam is considered something akin to a mental illness that will gradually disappear. What do you think about this? It's much better than the apartheid that is happening in Israel? Why?

Then what we can see is wrong, but what some spiritual teachers say is right. There is not universe, there is consciusness, etc. Well, who knows? Anyway it has not relationship with enlightenment. Enlightenment is out of the logic, is inside you, without structured mind. Is open yourself to what you are. If you say so. But seems the opposite So when you dream the living organism is dead? I thought it is alive, same that when you are awake. But in the dreams the brain reproduces patterns that has been perceived when you were awake. But who knows, maybe you are right and it's god dreaming for love or anything. Enlightenment is not knowing that, is being open to what reality is. Not knowing how reality is, but what reality is. You don't understand what I mean? Not the form, the "substance".

It is not black or white as I just said in the previous post . I think the war will surely end soon. Israel and the US will say their objectives were more than fulfilled, that the regime is now much weaker, and that they have achieved a great victory. The Iranian regime will say it has achieved a total victory by resisting and that it has humiliated its enemies. I would say that Iran's claim is closer to reality than Israel's for now. But be careful, perhaps Israel will achieve more after this war than it seems. Perhaps Iran will commit to not carrying out aggressive actions, such as financing terrorism, and will forget about Israel and America as Satan, and in time the regime will fall from inside.

Ground invasion is not an option imo, it would be a disaster. They already have the example of Russia invading Ukraine. Anyway, If the regime doesn't fall, which seems unlikely, things are looking bad for Israel. We assume Israeli intelligence is, let's say, intelligent, that they're acting according to a plan, but if what they achieve with this is strengthening the Iranian regime, it's the first step toward the end of Israel. We'll see if they have an ace up their sleeve, or if their fate is utter humiliation. If they lose, it's the complete end of the US as the military power in the world. The end. Maybe it's not so bad, all countries are realizing that the equilibrium is too delicate and great conflicts are bad idea in all senses, and invasions are almost impossible. then maybe it's a definitive step for peace. But who knows. I don't know what are you talking about, anyway , try to stop insulting. Oh noble.

😂Chat gpt unbiased. You are great. Oh noble soul. Chatgpt mimics the user's personality, or haven't you noticed yet? It always tells you what you want to listen. With that lack of analysis, how are you going to successfully carry out your justice maker duties against the America Satan? Seems difficult.

Why do you insult? Maybe do you think that by insulting you have any reason, oh noble fighter of the freedom? Yes , except that they have forbidden do Ramadan, have Muslim names, be Uyghurs. Exactly! Those who don't want to kill the Jews. Those who want to kill the Jews, like gazans, can't be doctors in Israel . Crazy right? Those evil Jews....but if they would accept Israel, focus themselves in progress, we will see what they would get. Instead that, they voted for Hamas. Your are wrong, the problem here is that you can't understand what I'm saying, because you are so full of justice and nobility that you only can see your nobility and justice. Oh noble fighter! Oh pure soul! Fuck, if I were a girl I would fall in love. Oh che de Guevara, noble, noble, noble! Let me explain it simply, oh noble soul. We'll see if you understand. Muslims are people who absolutely believe in a medieval religion. For them, the essential thing is to go to paradise, and to do so they must obey the rules dictated by a warlord in the year 600. Their banner is victimhood; this is how they feel united and strong in their strange ideology, since without it they would realize the stupidity of their paradigm. They are purely emotional, not rational. Same than you. You have the feeling that West is bad and Palestinian are good, then you find the reasons to justify that. It's exactly the opposite way to reach conclusions. The Chinese call this "mental illness," and they try to cure it in reeducation camps, with considerable success. In the Middle East, these people have oil, the most valuable resource, and Israel was founded in the middle of it. This causes problems because these people don't want to reason. They are like you: they need to feel noble, righteously indignant, full of righteous anger, pure, holy, fighters. Poor people, lifeless, without light, sad, dull. Like you. But some of them just pretend believing this stupidity to make happy their people, they really want business and prosperity, that's why a hope is possible, little by little, until this mental virus dissapear , if the gods are generous. Where do you live? In a Muslim paradise like Bangladesh or siria, or in a horrible place enslaved by the satanic empire like Germany, Canada, Korea, Japan? Probably you think that the situation in the Muslim countries is bad due the west, and that the west is a rotten civilization. It use to happen to people who are losers in life. Thinking that way, they blame others for their lack of success. Just as ......the Muslims!!! Bingo!!!!!!

About why Islamic countries hate israel. Why iran hate Israel. They are not Arabs. Or turkey. Do you think they hate israel because the conflict with Palestinian? There are thousands of other conflicts anywhere with much more casualties. But they are so concerned about the Palestinian. In Israel a Palestinian can be a doctor, a judge, a politician, a soldier in IDF, a policeman. It's not so genocidal right? If you compare with any other fight between tribes, it's not worse than others . It's just a conflict, of course bad, but are conflict everywhere, look Yemen or sudan . Why Israel is so important for them? Why they don't care about Uyghurs, a real genocide?

Yeah there is a bad problem, but why iran is so concerned? Because they are also Muslims? Why they aren't concerned by the Uyghurs? Nothing. No mention. If you understand this, you will understand the Islamic question

Of course not, the Uyghur cleanse is a real cleanse, not a war or dispute. Imagine if the Uyghur do the 8 Oct in china😅 better don't imagine.

Israel is the only county in middle east where a gay could be gay without being killed. Crazy right? If you are gay, they kill you. Maybe your father or your brothers are who kill you. Wtf right? What do you think, it's good or bad killing your son because he's gay, or your daughter because she doesn't marry with who you order? Killing your daughter...seems good? I think it's "bad"