Breakingthewall

Yeah, it's very possible that if their assessors tells to sadhguru that his rate or popularity (and money) is falling he adopt the expression of a demon and start saying "gollum" "gollum". Really no one is free of corruption

Bilbo never said that he can making the trees bleeding 😅. It's too stupid to be corruption, it must be a kinda of strategy Anyway, maybe you are right, no one is invulnerable to corruption

Do you think that sadhguru is a weak mind who has fallen in narcissism? I don't think so, everything is strategic for sells, sadhguru is a genius of business. You could say that he does for the sake of spirituality and business is a need, but the problem is the people who get interested in spirituality, then listen sadhguru and he's saying that he can making the trees bleeding

The huge problem Sadhguru creates is that he makes analytical and non-conformist people view spirituality as a circus of clowns. Sadhguru only wants sheep people who believe he can go a year without breathing and who idolize him like a god. That does a huge disservice to spirituality and is an insult to intelligence. He may be a genius, but that aspect of what he does is quite negative.

Really sadhguru is a genius. He has built a true spiritual empire and goes head-to-head in debate with anyone. His Isha Foundation generates no scandals; it is scrutinized under a microscope by its millions of detractors, and the absolute worst they can come up with is an incident involving some elephants on a reserve. When Sadhguru talks about enlightenment, he does so without error, but the problem arises when he says things like only he can protect us from demons, or that he knows the 65 universes, and that he is a Marvel superhero. Why does he say that? I suppose it's strategy, but it really works against him, it makes him look like a charlatan. What is the point of saying such things? Maybe in India due their culture that's an attractor, a tool to attract people to real spirituality.

Being enlightened is not being a Buddha without desire and a saint, is being open to the absolute light that reality is and being one with it. But not always, rhen maybe sometimes you use drugs and date in tinder for sex. Not everyone is so straight and perfect.

That history when he's sitting in a rock and everything merges and he cried, seems authentic, it's the tipical experience of dissolution of the separate self. Millions of people have had that experience

Sadhguru is a genius. Is he enlightened? Maybe, being enlightened is not a big thing, is being open to the nature of reality. Then you could say that if you die in an accident you go to hell because your last moment when you are dying is amplified to infinity, that people over 84 (exactly 84) reach nirvana and there are 63 universes, but only 3 are still alive. And that you can make the trees bleeding. I guess it's a kind of joke, something that he says to get people perplexed , without a definite opinion, like....wtf? Or maybe he thinks seriously all that. Perplexity.

Exactly, I didn't use even translator, and my English is very far to be perfect

"God consciusness" don't make choices, in fact it doesn't exist, because being conscious implies limitation. "Infinite consciousness" sound nice, but is impossible, any consciousness is finite. Being conscious implies limitation in many senses. It's very obvious that consciousness is a structure that reality takes, not the substance of reality. Consciousness is a process, and any process is finite, has a beginning and an end. It's difficult to be open to the fact that consciousness is not ontologically different than unconsciousness, consciousness is just a property that is possible. Being attached to consciousness because you are conscious is a closure. If you want to open yourself to the unlimited, you have to leave it

I used the translator, sometimes I write by myself and others when the topic is complex I use the Google translator, anyway I improved a lot in English those years There is one awakening, the breaking of the barriers and the openess to your unlimited nature. But are degrees of dissolution of the barriers, you can't live all time without any structure

I believe the matter of consciousness can be cleanly defined. Consciousness is reality structured in a specific way, a structure that reality takes on when life occurs. Life is essentially a self-preserving process that carves out its own rules by building a buffer against the "external" universe. When biological complexity crosses a certain threshold, an interface emerges. This interface acts as a dynamic model of information exchange between the organism and its environment. Within that model, an unchanging reference point appears, the witness, flanked by memory and prediction. This entire cloud of integrated processes is what we call consciousness. Its ultimate nature is still reality, but operating in a specialized mode: reality experiencing itself through the prism of a relative subject.

The truth is absolutely simple: you are the reality. That's it, there is no further truth to know. Not "all" of reality, or "part" of reality. You are reality, period. What is not so simple is opening yourself up to what you are; that is quite difficult, because by default you are closed. Your system is designed to focus on survival, social interaction, validation, projection, and the compartmentalization of reality into categories. That is how the human mind works, so to open yourself up to your total nature, you must deactivate all that programming at will. Every line of that program carries an energetic charge; that emotional charge is what makes the programming functional and real. You have to be capable of making a structural movement in which all that charge is nullified or greatly diminished. To do this, you must have looked directly at that entire emotional fortress and merged with it: the essential fear of disappearing, of not being yourself, of being rejected by others, of suffering and death. You have to open yourself up to the absolute nihilism of death, and by doing so, life will open up within you. Then there will no longer be death, because you are life. You are not someone who lives, but rather life appearing as someone, and your depth and extension are total, you have no limits, and your nature is absolute potentiality, which is to say, life, absolute being.

Why? Who says that, or who knows that and in basis of what? Trees are there and that's it, who cares if they are in the category "hallucination" or "real"? Where is the difference? Only inside of your valorative scale. Why? Who generates them for that reason? Thoughts are an expression of the reality and that's it. Who has to watch them and drop them? Anyone separated from the thoughts? Thoughts are the expression of what you are, of your energetic structure. You can't ignore the thoughts because what you are is vibrating in the form of those thoughs, you are the thoughts, you can't ignore yourself, you can't split yourself in two. The only real thing you could do is see yourself without filter, see your emotional structure and be it, see your inner fear and your inner closure and open it. When you open yourself to the unlimited again and again, in some point you are open to the unlimited most of time and the frequency of your thoughts changes We are still human, I don't want to be abused, being sick or enclosed alone in a room for years, I prefer a than b, and suffering is always a possibility, that's human nature. You could see that what you ultimately are is the unlimited that is everything, but I prefer a life aligned with my human programming, with freedom, love, connection, than being a slave for example.

Thoughts are the consequence of your structure, you can't change your structure changing your thoughts, or at least for me doesn't work

Just because I read part this book and others and I only got confusion. In my opinion if anyone want to talk about spirituality, they should be absolutely true without the slightest deviation, absolutely straight to the point without a single word that points to any mistake. If not they are introducing in the people's mind barriers.

Yeah because reading them you could see what is inside them. But if I could choose to know any teacher in deep, I would choose sadhguru without doubt. I bet that he's a real evil narcissist, but sometimes listening him seems that he's a kinda of genius, or really enlightened. He's an enigma that id like to solve.

And why they are here and what anything means? Ultimately there is no reason, no meaning, any reason or meaning are relative. That's the problem of ACIM, that reveals knowledge like that you are here for experiencing love or anything, when you are here because you are, and this form is a possibility that is possible now. Real enlightenment is being open to what you ultimately are, to the unlimited that is. If you create a structure in your mind that is: I'm loved and I'm here for x, you are creating a closure. No structure is the only way to let the absolute shinning in the now. Any structure is a door, no door is small, any door closes, openess means total absence of closure. You could say that this is humility, since you have to abandon any belief, any hope, to open the door of your mind to the unlimited vastness that is.

Unlimited means without dimensions, it's not something that you can imagine or remember, it is what reality is, you can be open to it or not. About god, if you reach god consciousness, this consciousness would be a mode of the reality right? A frequency that this experience takes. How could you differerence from an hallucination?

Maybe you are right, but I can't see how anything could be higher than unlimited

By absolute emptiness I do not mean nothingness, but rather the point where structures lose their power. This means that boundaries disappear, there is no differentiation, and this exact moment reveals itself as total reality. When barriers vanish, what is revealed is not emptiness, but the absolute power of limitless potential. Here, there is nothing left to explore or know because it is already the totality; it is completely obvious, and any "more" would just be a boundary. For example, understanding how or why reality is created would mean stepping back into structured reality. Relative reality appears because it is possible; any other explanation is secondary, structural, and contingent. The matter of enlightenment is opening yourself up to your absolute nature, it is not something you can advance further in; it is either total, or it is not.

There are two different paths: one is construction, the other is destruction. The first one never ends, you can keep elaborating and structuring to infinity; the second one does have an end, which is absolute emptiness. When we say emptiness, we mean empty of structure, not empty of existence, since that doesn't exist. If you reach total emptiness of structure, you will reach total openness. In total openness you will be one with the limitless; you will be the limitless knowing that it is. Not as a metaphor or something that is intuited, but completely, absolutely clear. And there is no more, because "more" makes no sense if there are no limits. That's it, game over, any "more" will always be "less," in the sense that it will be a structure appearing within the limitless, and it makes no difference whether it's an intergalactic god or a piece of shit in your mouth; they are structures, period. From an ontological perspective there is no evolution or levels; there is the totality, and the relative, period.

Is there a process or not? Nobody is processing because you are the process. The knower is a process, there is no difference between the Knower or the process that implies knowing. Look, what is happening is a process, same than anything that happens, and that happening is the self. It's not an illusion, it's just the reality happening in self mode. Denying it is a closure, and the real point is openess to the unlimited, because ultimately you are that.

I read let's say 1/4 of the book when I started to be interested in spirituality, I got impressed, very profound and that, but always that feeling of closure, I didn't know why, but now I know, it's because it's paradigm is dividing the reality between true and false. That's a mistake, nothing is false, what happens is closure, it's very different. You inflict misery to yourself in the same way that you inflict pain to yourself if you are burned. It's how you are built. There is not wrong in suffering, suffering is human, is part of our nature. What is extremely alien and sad is being closed to the source, to the unlimited, but that happens due fear and in great stent due stupidity, because you choose closure again and again in order to fit in society. You do that because you can't understand what you are doing, because you are.... stupid. All us are in greater or lesser extent. Some keep a spark of understanding, others nothing, they are blind. You don't need to choose love and all that, you have to choose openess, giving yourself to the reality, breaking the separation. It's extremely simple, you don't need 1000 pages to understand it, you have to do it. Well, just my vision

The matter of being seems banal, but it is not; being emptied of everything is one facet, the reality is and is not. What is not, does not exist, yet it is nonetheless real. It is absolute potential, and being open to it is not about knowing that absolute potential exists, but about perceiving living reality, your ultimate nature. They called it tao, seems a good term.