Breakingthewall

If they disappear they will appear again, because it's possible, and the lapse between the disappearance and the appearance is zero, no time.

Not so but if you are interested in understanding the reality, humans science have reached an astonishing level. Realizing what theoretical physicists have achieved makes you see what the human mind is capable of. The level of obsession and focus required to mathematically describe the quantum structure of reality is incredible. And what's most incredible is that all subsequent experiments accurately verify the theoretical deductions. If you delve into modern physics you will see the beauty of the design of the universe, it's absolutely elegant, and you understand that this is so because it's the most efficient possibility, the most perfect equation that can arise and that it's so just because it's the most optimal possibility

Before saying such things learn a bit about physics. Start with Einstein, then try to understand Penrose for example

The part is the totality and being the absolute is knowing it because you are a mind conscious of itself. You can conceptualize the absolute, it's easy: it's absolute. Conceptualized.

The Absolute is the unmanifest source of everything. Consciousness in the body is the window through which the Absolute looks at itself. Nisgardatta You are the Absolute manifesting as this body in order to experience existence. Without the human form, the unmanifest remains in its own silence, without the sensation of being. Nisgardatta

You can totally know yourself, you are the eye of the reality, and with this eye the absolute see itself and knows itself totally, without the slightest lack.

Exactly this. "Absolute" means no other. No place to go, no change, no movement. Then you could think: ah, the solipsism. But that's again mixing the absolute with the relative. The absolute is not "something" that is always equal, it's being, the fact of existing, what is inherent to anything. But this "quality" is everything, implies totality, limitlessness and it's what ultimately we or anything is.

I'm not saying it to be the one who's right, i do because its totally obvious and if you make a mental frame where an absolute with a will do things it's impossible to open yourself to the absolute, because that will is precisely the relative. To open yourself to the absolute, you must completely abandon the relative level, and to do that, you must completely abandon any idea of control. I've spent 300,000 hours (perhaps I'm exaggerating a bit) trying to do this. Sober, on psychedelics, etc. Will exists, in relation to something. Any will is form. The absolute is the substance of form; it is the fact of being. The absolute being is indifferent to everything; from that perspective, one thing or another is the same, they are possibilities that arise because they are possible. The slightest microscopic preference completely shuts it down. At the absolute level, "preference" is meaningless, it has no significance, since it is absolute. Preference is relative to something, and will is what aims to any preference. The absolute is totally free, and to be open to it you have to free your mind of any preference for a while. Not always in your life, that's not necessary, only in meditation being able to jump to a level where there is zero preference, zero will, no difference between a and b.

It's very simple: the absolute is the fact of being; it cannot be described in any other way. Even "fact" is superfluous. It is not empty; it is total. Total means that it cannot change; it is the ultimate quality of reality. This manifests as unlimited possibilities, and this is now a possibility taking place. But in any possibility the absolute is exactly the same. It's the substance, the possibility is the form, to say it with some structure This is all; there is nothing more to know about the absolute. But the act of opening yourself to the absolute is the great change; it is the end of lack, ignorance, and fear. Nothing is lacking; it is everything. What is a complex enigma, however, is the mechanism by which the human psyche closes itself off. That is what we should investigate, but it's impossible because no one understands what enlightenment is, it's incredible, it's obvious. Everyone should see it obvious and clear, because it's very simple.

Absolute means that is not relative to anything. Any will is relative to anything. Aims to something, exclude something. Then the absolute is not a will, is not doing things, it's just absolute. It's extremely obvious.

In what sense?

Any will would be relative. I don't understand how you don't see it. I can open myself to the total, that's a fact. Then I know what closes, because open oneself to the absolute is very difficult, our psyche closes with many layers of barriers. Some are very subtle, like the concept "consciousness"

Ok, as you are so derogatory, I'll skip talking to you. anyway It's obvious that your state is closed off, not alive, contracted, and that you don't want to come out of it. Your choice.

The Absolute does not unfold; it is already infinitely unfolded without beginning or end. It is immutable and can be fully known, since all that is, is that. If all barriers disappear, the Totality sees itself from the human form. It sees itself when the human mind transcends the level of structure and opens to the Absolute level. Then the human mind is the Absolute. As the human mind is conscious of itself, when this occurs, the Absolute is conscious of itself.

Don't confuse the relative with the absolute. It's tempting to believe you are absolute and nothing can touch you if you so choose, that you can hack the game. Whoever believes that is the relative mind placing itself in an absolute position. The relative is real; it is interconnected with the totality of form and can only be aligned with, not dismissed as false. If you dismiss form as false, you create a total closure and place yourself in a dead, anesthetic void called non-duality. The absolute is alive, full and total, and it's one with the relative. In the relative there is no mercy, you have to fight, there is no guarantee, if you fail, you will be closed and isolated until death.

Sure, most of them do it, but they're wrong because they don't realize their fundamental error (or they don't want to realize). Look at Tolle, for example, who tells you that one morning he woke up and there was no more suffering or neurosis, and then he spent two years in a park doing nothing, being very happy. Then he realized that you create suffering and you can stop doing it. That's a complete mistake. What is this "you" that creates suffering? The default mode network, the limbic system, and the entire structure that creates identity, established since the first group mammals, and whose function is to hold the group together. Tolle had a short circuit in that system as self-protection against destructive suffering, and the network disconnected, and he was happy in the park without needing to be in society (which fed him). But then he claims that you are creating that suffering due to an operational error, and that if you realize your error, you can stop doing it. "You" are not a director who directs your mind; you are the mind,the entire process. The mind isn't a toy, and you're not its owner, deciding what's wrong or incorrect. Don't you see the obvious? They're creating absolute separation and calling it non-duality. "Deciding not to suffer" is the mind itself. The mind is a process that happens, not an illusion. Suffering is that process happening. The process can understand itself but it's connected with everything, it's not isolated.

I understand perfectly. They say that only the absolute is real and that the relative is unreal. They say this from the perspective of relative knowledge, therefore they themselves define their definitions as illusory. The problem is that it's also false, since relativity and separation are real because they are something that occurs. They conflate two levels that cannot be mixed because they are two aspects of the same reality: substance and form. Substance is the fact of being, form the fact of appearing. Substance is absolute, form is relative in its appearance but absolute in the sense that there is always form. They say that the absolute cannot be known, and that's a lie. The absolute knows itself through the process of division that creates consciousness and that later collapses, leaving only absolute being, which perceives itself from the perspective of the dual human being. Total openness to the absolute is total knowledge of the absolute. Total omniscience. Seriously, omniscience. Which is very simple: being is. But opening oneself to it implies everything, absolutely everything. There is nothing more; it is total. That's enlightenment, I assure you 100%. But anyway, if you don't see the mistake in the non dualistics, you won't believe me and you will see that I'm trapped in duality because I don't see that it's illusion

What i mean is that they tell people what they buy into: the self is an illusion, there is no suffering. You suffer because you want to; you (who are an illusion) are the one who decides whether to suffer or not, so you (who don't exist) can stop suffering with your (nonexistent) will. People want that, to be islands with an off switch. The problem is that they aren't That could be a kind of process of depersonalization maybe necessary to transcend the level of form, but that doesn't mean the separation isn't real. You are a human walking on a planet and have a brain. On an ontological level, you and the planet are the same: reality. But currently, a duality has been created that generates the consciousness of being human, etc. This consciousness can open to the absolute level, the fact of being conscious of being. This doesn't imply that the human is an illusion, since "illusion" is an idea that occurs in the human brain, not an absolute category.

The difference between me and them is that I make money in a business that is not the spirituality. So you think that the separate self is illusory. Why do you think that?

I saw that hundred of times same that being god etc, all that are just ideas, means absolutely nothing. This reality is, I am, and nothing else means absolutely nothing. If you open yourself to the absolute fact of being, you are open to everything. Your heart is open, your mind is unlimited, no boundaries, no definitions, no structures, just what is , what you are, the totality that is , period. What you have to do is an action, not a realization. A realization happens.to you, the action of openess is something that you do and doing so that you become, that you are. You are open, you are the openess, the unlimited. To see is to be, the subject must become the object. And the structure must disappear. No God , no dream, no consciousness, just being absolutely open without frontier. Some courage is needed, the mind will try to grab some grips, like dreams and that

You should understand that all those ideas are just ideas and honestly, in my humble opinion are wrong. Defining reality as unreal or as a dream from within reality is absurd. I've been where you are and I wondered: are they metaphors? Do these people know what they're talking about? Is it really as they say? I also used to do psychedelics brutally, hundreds of times taking very high doses. Sometimes I'd do 5-MeO, the next day mushrooms, the next day DMT, two, three, even four days a week, constantly breaking my mind, and hearing all that talk about illusion and dreams. Forget all that; it's meaningless. The point here is to leave the level where things are named and enter the level where things simply are. To delve deeply into yourself without definition, without a map, into the reality that is now. What we seek is to free the mind from its limitations, not to create new ones. In case of doubt, just think: nothing means nothing, and relax. You are, that's everything.

If you really want to get enlightened moments every day that you want, just meditating 10 minutes, you should change that mental frame, you are not creating the reality, that's a closure. You are the reality happening. It's totally absolutely different, could seems that this is irrelevant, that what anyone should do is meditate and let the ego go. Mistake. The mental frame closes, and can allow openess. At least can make it possible. But anyway, your choice

You can't understand even the more simple. It's amazing. You dont see that there is double intention, irony, etc? I'm getting desperate about posting here, it's like amazing. Anyway I like to speak about this topic, if no one understands nothing, that's life

That's good that you are condescending with silly kids like me, thanks, but I'm giving my best in every post. My level is low and maybe I deserve being expulsed, but it's what I can do. Why don't you try do correct me and teach me to be enough?

Yes but "you" giving meaning means a relationship of causality that comes from the big bang, then the first cells, the complex organisms, brains, consciousness, until the feeling of a kick in your balls that appears as "bad". Even you are god, god gives that meaning due a relationship of causality, so it could be said that things happen, nothing else