Breakingthewall

The distinctions are real. Pretending they don't exist is a kind of spiritual narcissism that closes you off. No one achieves openness with those non-dualistic tricks. You have to know how to differentiate between process and substance; then you can function as a process aligned with your total nature. To pretend that everything is illusory is to deny something that exists, a kind of mental castration that locks you in a dead state that you define as "awake."

I see it different, everything is just the reality happening, processes unfolding, it's not "maya", it's just how reality manifest. The "truth" is the perception of the nature of the reality beyond the form. That doesn't mean that the form is Maya or unreal, means that the form is form, and the nature is the nature. Both are two aspects of the reality. No one is false. But the point is being open to the total nature of the reality, to what is. Then the form appears as what is in this form . I think that this of Maya is not useful to see clearly, but it's just my opinion. Anyway, a pleasure to talk

Then why do you call it dream if it's the same than the reality? A dream is something less real, an illusion. An illusion is illusory because it's not real. If anything is an illusion is in comparison with something that is not an illusion. If everything is an illusion, then it's just you putting labels to create an unnecessary mental mess

It's much more simple: everything is real because everything is the reality. Or maybe are you one of those non dualistic who make an absolute duality between real and dream?

Of course, it's the reality happening, I would call real to the reality. You are there, if you want to call it unreal to feel better it's your choice. But if anything is not real, then what is "real"?

I do since you equate fear and illusion. That means escapism. Like: this is just a dream, it's not happening. That's just a mental trick. Maybe you went through a very hard problems, but this attitude is evasion.

This is where you enter the realm of non-dualistic modern spirituality, and your reasoning completely collapses. Fear is not an illusion; it's an essential mechanism for the complex process we call life to be possible. If you're serious about spirituality, you have to confront fear for real. Not just "observing" it at home, but when death and ruin lurks. Then you'll see how illusory it truly is.

There are two types of people: those who observe reality to understand it, and those who do so to reinforce a self-image they need. You don't have to be Muslim, uneducated, or anything like that; you could be a Nobel laureate, but if you operate in defensive mode, you'll see all of reality through the filter of your absolute need for identity.

That's because you have the ingrained stereotype of the strong, protective man who faces the world head-on, versus the emotionally focused woman who provides support and love. This stereotype isn't inherently "bad," but women have been trapped in it and have had fewer rights than men because of it, and they've decided to break free from it, with both positive and negative consequences for them.

People hated the Jews because they lived in their country and were much richer, more powerful, and more educated, and moreover, they didn't want to mix with them under any circumstances. They intermarried and helped each other, but within the framework of another culture.

Gypsies are just as tribal, and nobody cares about them. Jews are hated for a much more obvious reason: because they gain access to real power, they pull the strings in the societies where they settle. They don't put on entertaining dance and circus shows; they dominate finance, the media, then the politics. So, in the end, there's usually an antisemitic movement, like the one that might emerge in the US if Operation Epic Ridiculous continues down its seemingly inevitable path.

The problem is the other way around. It's men who don't want to enter into serious relationships with women because they don't want a tyrant with absurd ideas about life constantly complaining that things aren't the way she wants them to be and demanding that the man be the emotional support for her unstable mind in exchange for the dubious privilege of having a secure emotional bond with a narcissist.

How could you be not afraid if you are afraid?

@Someone here What you're talking about is a good level of meditation. What you're doing is real meditation, opening yourself to what is now. But let's see, when you say that there's emptiness inside you if thoughts stop, that can be nuanced. When the mind stops completely and you perceive yourself as a process unfolding now, at a certain point reality loses its dual dimension, "inside you," "your thoughts." There is no longer an inside or outside, no limits restricting anything. Then you are floating in the abyss that is this moment, and at a certain point, you are this moment, without any interpretation or barrier, completely clear, pure. When you can reach this point naturally, that's when it gets difficult, at least for me. In this absolute moment, there is one last barrier. Poetically speaking, your heart is closed, and it is because you are afraid, because you cling to the fact of being you, to the control of what is. The challenge is to open yourself, to let go of that last control, to break free from form and be pure substance without restrictions. This is enlightenment, nothing less. It is access to the Tao, to the source, and you cannot think or remember, you can only be now. It's not "nothing ", it's unlimited, it's everything. Then the door closes up, and you perceive the closure in you, in your body, in your heart, but anyway you can't open it. A lot of adjustments must be done to align yourself, at least it's what I feel, what I'm doing, the path that I choose

The main factor that makes real meditation impossible is the need for self-definition, for identification. This need is inherent to the human being; it is a mechanism of social cohesion that allows the group to function as a single entity. Real meditation is not achieved through techniques, but through stepping out of the psychological matrix of identity. The real work is not in the practice of meditation, but in self-exposure, coherence, and integrity. Loyalty to yourself as absolute value. When the psychological axis shifts from the need for self-definition and validation to integrity and transparency, the mind becomes silent. Only then does meditation make sense, as one gains access to the primordial layers of the psyche: the drive for permanence, the fear of harm and disappearance, the need for control and other bases of the human psyche Directly perceiving these underlying patterns is what eventually allows the psyche to open. “Openness” means the absence of limits. Limits define, and create a sense of control and security. The absence of limits is initially terrifying, unsustainable for more than a few seconds. The system automatically contracts again. Anyone seeking liberation must seek this rupture. At some point, it becomes more tolerable, until it is perceived as freedom. Identity is then replaced by effortless openness, as it is revealed to be a mental process. not false, but not fundamental, not absolute. Openness is not an “open mind,” but the fact of being perceiving itself without mental limitations. It is something simple and, at the same time, complete. Not definable because there are not limits. This is the state where life becomes beauty, perception becomes deep and the heart becomes open.

Look clown , seems that there are not moderators in this forum, just I'm asking you to go out of this thread. I think you are a disgusting clown and would be nice if you disappear from here with your annoying narcissism. Could you be so kind? Im asking you very politely, don't you think so? Then start another thread to show how smart you are.

The human nature makes those walls inevitable. Survival is a must, it's atavistic, not a silly mistake of the ego. Go through those walls requires facing your deepest fears and go through them. It's an interesting exercise, over all because the other option is madness. If we were in a society with a purpose, then we could make that purpose our guide and work hard for the group, but we are in the society of the no sense, no purpose, just hedonism, comparison, madness. Then there is no choice

Ok, you are very brilliant, so special. Everyone already know it. Then rest a bit and go to another thread

Anyone knows that metaphor, maybe you think it's very brilliant. Better explain the process

Because they perceive that life, reality, can't be this limited frame. Your intuition tells you that you are prisoner, but you don't know exactly how . Then you start reading spirituality, but it's contradictory, narcissistic and very bad explained. Most of authors are seducers, who's successful as a "guru" is who seduces the seekers. Then you think: if I stop my thoughts I will be free, and you start meditation as a violent effort to control your mind. A very stressful and annoying exercise. But if you are tenacious, little by little you start to perceive the processes that are happening in you, the process that you are, the depth of your movement, then it becomes a passion, you spend hours and hours in it, doing all the psychedelics that exist again and again, breaking your mind in all it's possible dimensions, until you start to know yourself Then you perceive that if you break the last frontier you will find the absolute

@oOo you are wasting a lot of energy for nothing. Don't you realize that James just want to appear enlightened to appear special or better? He's not going to read anything that you say, just answering to place himself above you. This forum is 90% this sterile exercise, but it's interesting because shows what spirituality use to be, what's the real motivation of the "gurús"

Start a new thread, this is to talk about meditation and spirituality.

I said something with value: that you are someone who talks with the sole purpose to appear smart.

You sound smart , impressive. Say more things to sound smart if it makes you happy. The person who thinks that his mental state is limited.

You could say that the reality is you, because it's obvious that you are the reality manifested in a local process. The point is not knowing that but being open to what you are, what is you nature. This is a subjective perception, like any other perception, but that's doesn't mean it's false. If you perceive yourself without any limit, you will say: yes! Alleluia! This is what I am, it's absolutely obvious, it's not something, it's unlimited and this implies everything , this is the end of the lack , the opening to the inexhaustible source, the bottomless abyss that is what you are. The biggest bullshit is that perception is an illusion. Perception is the reality perceiving itself. The perception can be closed or open. If it's totally open, the reality perceives itself in its nature. You are the reality now, not another, not any illusion When spira, Ralston , etc , talk about the realization of the nature of the reality, they are talking about a mental realization, like, you stop thinking that you are American, a human, etc, then THIS is what you are. No, they are just in a meditative state like mindfulness and as they have the psychological need of being enlightened, they are identifying with enlightenment. That's spirituality nowadays, total absence of depth. Enlightenment is absolute depth. When you are totally free of any identification, is when the real game starts. The game that @Grateful Dead have played that include go through the absolute nihilism. Most of people will grab any idea of god because they don't like that horror. You have to be absolutely naked of everything, absolutely humble, accepting the possibility that reality is dead emptiness and be one with this emptiness.