Breakingthewall

Sounds very real. For me was the same, I was living in a state of anxiety and mental oppression that would destroy me. Like it was a war in my mind without a second of peace

Yes but enlightenment imo means being open to what never dies, to the unlimited being, and being one with it. You describe the effect, but the point is being open to the cause. I'm not saying that you aren't, just explaining my point

Many have that goal in mind, millions, but they don't get it, they stay in a state of emptiness , pure consciousness as they call it. but they never open the source of life, the absolute being, their living nature.

Why do you call light of awareness? Maybe it would be awareness of the light . How do you see it?

Yes, he was Smart and ambitious, and he never lied to himself, he was in mission of conquest. That's the only way (as I see it) to arrive to the openess to what is

Sometimes meditating, In a matter of seconds, the mind is completely emptied of content; reality is what is. There isn't even a subject consciously perceiving; there is only what lives. Subject and object are one. The entire structure dissolves into boundless life, and that is perfect. Structure isn't needed; it is fullness. This doesn't mean that structure doesn't unfold like a living mosaic, and that I don't desire expansion, life, openness, simply for the sake of being. After that openess, in the structure, its essence shines through, its flavor, what it is. It is precisely me. Not solipsism, others are too. The pin is not knowing anything, is being open to it.

What about Buddha? He did a very hard path full of fight and frustration for many years with a concrete goal

But self inquiry is mental, conceptual. How could you open yourself to what is beyond the conceptual mind using the conceptual mind?

@eTorro but if it was so hard, you didn't want it and you haven't any goal with it, why did you do it?

The point is that a human has a genetic structure that will create identity. It's like an embryo that, as soon as it receives the necessary stimulus, begins to develop. Without a real structure created by generations and the brutal imposition of reality, identity is organized around fluid values, and the fluid individual suffers from a default imbalance. They are constantly compensating for this, and that translates into anxiety as the basis of existence. This is a very complicated labyrinth, an enigma that the evolutionary force that is human life tries to solve. Life is always in movement, changing, finding new possibilities, and that's what we are.

In our society, we are educated from birth to be consumers; we are receivers of objects, content, and experiences that we like and find entertaining, and we perceive our value within the human group by whether we are liked and validated. From adolescence onward, being liked and validated becomes key. We crave an ideal of beauty, wealth, and social skills that places us at the top of the pyramid, allowing us to enter the "fit" zone, and we see others as allies or adversaries depending on their level of fitness. Sex is presented to us from childhood as consumption. By age 12, we watch an amount of porn that would leave the Marquis de Sade perplexed, and if you are more or less "fit," random sporadic sex is within anyone's reach. It is absolutely natural to perceive sex and life in general as an act of consumption, not of expansion. I am not talking about selfishness, expansion is also selfish, i am talking about the vector. The vector created within us by our society points inward. The consumer is a pit that must be filled. This poses a serious problem: it closes us off. We have become isolated, self-reflective bubbles that need validation from their peers and seek pleasurable, satisfying experiences. These bubbles are always in a state of lack. They cannot be filled; they can only reach a level where the anxiety of insufficiency isn't overly noticeable. The problem with this is that it makes us idiots. We only see the reflection of our character, like a wall right in front of our face, flat and made of anxiety. This persona must be improved so that we can receive more of the good things we want. We all know where this leads: to a medicated society. Children born to fill a void, who will be raised by neurotics riddled with anxiety. This is an interesting labyrinth. At a given moment, you are a teenager caught up in this mess that is impossible to understand, surrounded by alienation, and you create a character .Real values like loyalty, honor, courage, surrender, and integrity sound great in movies, thousands of which we consume, providing us with engineered emotions that substitute for the honor, courage, surrender, and integrity that are scarce or nonexistent in our consumer reality. This makes us absolutely idiotic; we are so idiotic it is brutal. We are trapped in a bubble of idiocy. Escaping it is a challenge of enormous difficulty. It requires changing our vector of existence, the direction in which we point. Changing from a pit to a source, from a consumer to an expanding being. The point we are at is the consequence of humanity's massive conquest of reality. Seriously imagine for a moment, right now, being teleported to London in 1750. Seriously. We don't want that. But the enormous change that has occurred has made us neurotic, alienated, and closed off. This is endured more or less well thanks to the massive consumer possibilities we have, and the projection toward a future where we will be complete. But beware. Be very careful. Any day now you could realize that your life is an absolute misery, that you are absolutely alone in the wheel, running like a medicated rat. Making the movement toward openness is essential; it is the only sensible option. In doing so, you flip the bubble inside out, and suddenly, reality opens up. Your heart opens, your mind opens, and the vector has changed. No longer do you have the image of a progressing, remembering persona in front of you, but the immensity of reality. In front of your face is unlimited all the time; here and now you are, within the unfathomable unlimited that lives. In fact, you are that. It is not a divine, mystical realization; it is reality right now. The mental bubble ceases, as it is absolutely obvious that it is a kind of learned loop that makes no sense. Meaning is in your heart; the fact of being is everything, and you lack nothing. What you want is not to consume, but to expand, to flow, to connect. Everything is clear, clean, and alive. You have flipped the bubble inside out. Congratulations, you have solved the labyrinth of idiocy. Now, another phase of the game begins.

It is not that identifying with the ego has become easier today. What has changed is the entire vector of human existence. For most of human history, individuals saw themselves as parts sustained by a higher structure: God, the nation, the family, an ideal, whatever it might be. The individual was a component within a greater whole, and the mind was largely shaped and constrained by shared dogmas. After industrial revolution little by little a profound shift took place. Individualism became the dominant cultural framework. Each person came to see themselves as the center of their own reality, and the purpose of life became the pursuit of the greatest possible well-being. The supreme value became living the best life possible. I am not arguing whether this change is good or bad. I am pointing out that it happened. And once it happened, the vector of existence changed. The individual now experiences themselves primarily as a receiver. They receive experiences, pleasure and pain, approval and rejection. What is positive is being valued by others, attaining status, being admired, having pleasurable experiences. What is negative is the opposite. Because the desired standards are rarely fully attained, the psyche tends to experience itself as fundamentally insufficient. It sees itself as a character that falls short of an ideal. Life gradually becomes an attempt to compensate for what feels shamefully inadequate and to move closer to that ideal. This is the soil in which neuroticism flourishes. This is the development of an individual who no longer feels supported by anything greater than themselves. In the absence of such support, they seek it in the gaze of others, who are themselves caught in exactly the same game. The result is a deep background anxiety, managed through a continuous cycle of consuming content, maintaining a social life, chasing relationships that often become frustrating, alcohol, and projecting fulfillment into the future. It seems that this way of living is just a transitional one. It is an intermediate phase leading toward another mode of existence. That is what we are exploring here (in spirituality in general). the individual that finds the support in itself, the absolute integrity that arises when the individual open itself to it's nature, that is inseparable of the reality itself. It's not solipsism but interconnection, absence of limits and constantly access to what is, to the unlimited being that everything is.

@eTorro I don't understand how you could have done all that work without a clear motivation, a goal in mind. From what you've said, you've done a serious purification work, which in my opinion is essential for having a life that isn't pure anxiety.

I've never thought of it as an identity behind the eyes, and I'd say most people don't either. Usually people think we don't want to be slaves or losers in the group, and how do we get money and women and don't get a cancer, things like that. You don't go through life thinking you're behind the eyes and then, upon reflection, realize you're nothing. All of that is just your own personal ideas. Enlightenment has nothing to do with that; it's about dissolving all barriers. Believing you're nothing is a barrier, or that there is no self. All of that is just spiritual ideas. Enlightenment is actual; it's the totality of being without any boundaries or limits. As the Hindus say, Sat Chit Ananda: the total, unlimited being that is aware of itself and it's total, absolute, then manifest as Ananda, perfect joy because nothing limits it

Ideas are not false; they are ideas, mental structures. They can define reality quite accurately, up to a point. Spiritual awakening is not about thinking that ideas are false (which would be another idea ), but about opening yourself to the reality of absolute being. To achieve this, you must dissolve all your limits, both energetic and conceptual, and at that level, you know absolutely nothing, what remains is the direct fact that reality is, but that is absolutely everything. It's unfathomable and implies everything, absolutely full. That's enlightenment, nothing else.

You don't need to deny that you're biological or that duality exists. Just don't focus on it. You don't walk down the street thinking, "I'm a biological being," do you? If your purpose is to break down barriers, you won't achieve it by telling yourself they're false, but by focusing on what is now, without definitions. You have to step out of the level of conceptual structure and get into the level of being without definition. Not easy because the structured level gives security to us, we are very addicted to it. If what you do is change "I am material" to "I am pure consciousness," you're still in the structured realm, only now you're thinking spiritual things. In the non structured level there aren't (as it's obvious) structures. Then any structure like, I'm god or consciousness or anything, is just an structure. I think it's quite simple

I wasn't introspective hecause there was a barrier I wasn't even aware of, a blocked area since adolescence that was necessary for being more or less functional. At a certain point, I decided to look inside, and I did so obsessively and full-time, 24/7, like everything else. I wasn't seeking enlightenment, but rather to break through the barrier. I started watching spiritual content, participating in this forum, and always, absolutely always, seemed to me that spiritual teachers had a fundamental flaw. I didn't know exactly what it was; it was intuitive. Now I understand it much better. I think therapy is necessary because people should do anything if they are in mental suffering. I guess it depends a lot of the real sincerity with oneself of the patient. Anyway, how could a therapist help you? I don't know. if you are sincere with yourself you don't need it, and if you aren't you will lie the therapist. And therapist have their own bias about everything. True, but if we are focused in this topic is annoying that people comes with lies, at least for me. Everytime I write here I try to be as clean of ego as I can, trying to go directly to the point, without the slightest lie. Sure some ego emanates and that's inevitable but the point is trying to refine. This topic is very slippery, it's a topic do define, full of mistakes. I really think that the future of humankind needs real spirituality. And the spirituality that have been formulated is full of mistakes. I did that because I was full of fear. The point is thinking that really, every moment is near death, you could have an stroke in 5 minutes or the doctor could tell you that you have a cancer in your brain next week. This is not a fantasy, it's absolutely real, death is one millimeter from us all time. As I was very anxious about death rock climbing was very attractive to me because I perceived it so scary, like impossible to do. same than real boxing, seems impossible to be in control in that situation, so I had to do, then gliding with delta wing, I saw it and I thought: no way, that's impossible, flying to 4k meters in the hard turbulences...then I had to do. Then sailing, alone in the middle of the ocean? No way. Then I got obsessive about it. Then I tried psychedelic, and the same, that's so challenging, terrifying, like see through this dimension, playing with madness, then I did thousand of times.... inevitable. Now I train boxing just because it's beautiful and good for the body but I never fight. Enjoying real combat to breaking bones is sick, egomaniac. Climbing walls in clean (not solo, clean means you have to put the things in the wall) is dangerous, same than gliding. Why to take that risk if you don't need to? That's unnecessary, just ego, stupid imo. Oceanic sailing is different because it's real contact with the sea and nature, that's beautiful and it's a business, if I can in the future I will do again And psychedelic, same. Not necessary, some low dose for pleasure but there is nothing in psychedelic, nothing to discover. Psychedelic don't "increase your level of consciousness", but breaking your defenses. If you can dissolve your defenses without them, then it's unnecessary and dangerous in exchange of nothing

Imo fundamentally wrong in his basis. In his opinion, there is an appearance of separation, and this separation forces us to frame the experience in terms of satisfaction or dissatisfaction. According to him, if the appearance of separation disappears, you realize that reality is nothingness then that dissatisfaction disappear. All of this involves changes in mental structure, in how we define reality. According to him, it is without separation, and nothingness, and that seems to make him happy. This is typical of non-duality. That's imposible because this definition is an arising in the reality, inside of the system, and this mean absolutely always separation. Reality is indefinable; it is not "nothing," or "God," or "love," or whatever; it is what it is, period. The only thing that can change is your vector: from receiver to expansion. The receiver receives the experience and tries to obtain the best possible experience, and fears receiving bad things. Their entire approach is based on seeking the good, avoiding the bad. There is never enough of the good, and there is always a possibility that the bad will appear. Seeking and fear. From the expansive position, there is no difference or separation between you and reality, but that doesn't mean you should think your body is an illusion and that reality is nothingness. If you need that definition, it's because you're still in the receiver's position, receiving a definition of reality that reassures you. Now you believe it's nothingness, and your anxiety about the negative subsides. But the change hasn't happened. If the bubble vaporizes, the definition is zero. There's nothing to define; reality is, period.

@Zigzag Idiot i remember you like a evocation of another era😂

Being a rat (or a hamster) on the wheel is crazy. It's a state of stress and anxiety 24/7. But when you're in it, it seems normal. I don't mean about work, but the mental state of lack, disconnection, projections, constantly creating mental castles in the air, always dissatisfied, out of place, in the necessary imbalance that keeps the wheel turning, but balanced enough to make life bearable. A bit more of imbalance, and everything could fall .

Nobody can know nothing but that he is, but this is everything. One, two, gods, creations, that's meaningless. You are, that's everything. That's not a thought, it's the very fact of being now. It's unfathomable, alive and full. Knowing that only you are is structure. Being is a fact.

That sounds very Spiritual, but undifferentiated consciousness is unconsciousness. Consciousness is not "pure" something, it's awareness, and for awareness you need duality and change.

Agree, much better don't hate, I don't hate anyone, but this is because we live in modern civilization, not because hate is a mistake. If I would be enslaved like the Africans in America I would hate the people that force me to work with whips, rape my sister and sells my baby at a market. that normal right?

You should try this equation: multiply how many times someone say the word "love" for "I want to appear spiritual and enlightened" and the result is how narcissist is that person. The result is always infinite. Infinite love, as baby Jesus sending you to hell if you touch your penis, because he loves you.

You don't hate people because they are "bad", but because they are an obstacle, a threat, an enemy. Same than you hate a plague and you put all your effort to eliminate it, you hate your enemy. "Hate" is the energy focused in destruction. You want the destruction of the plague, because it's dangerous for you, same you want the destruction of your enemy. Love is the energy focused in construction. You love your human net, your friends, family, your country, the human race, the world, because they help you to live, they give you life and you give them life, that's love. But you don't love the cancer cells or those guys who gang raped your girlfriend, you hate them, you want their destruction.