Breakingthewall

It's simple: because anything that exists is in relation with anything else. Without relationship there is not existence. And any relationship is dynamic, it's a change of state happening in relationship with another state. Then everything must be perfect, synchronized without deviation, because otherwise simply it wouldn't exist. You could call it dream or my grand mother, but there is no existence without dynamic relationship, and for a dynamic relationship be stable and entangled with other dynamic relationship must be perfectly synchronized. Who does that perfect synchronicity? The fact that the absence of perfect synchronicity can't be.

A thought is the physical reality, it's a cloud of electric impulses, quantum synchronicitys, etc. It's not ontologically different than a rock or anything that exists. Ok, agree, then you are admitting that there is a knower

Pure heart is not kindness, is absence of closure, could be manifested in a samurai who cuts your head. The only possible understanding god is being open to it. You can't understand God with schemas, you could understand what appears with them but not the source, the source only can be known being it, but not understood with the mind because mental understanding always implies definition in any level. Or could you understand anything without defining if at least a bit? Any definition is a wall between you and the unlimited.

It's not so entangled. Look, when you say " if something is outside of IT, it’s not Infinity" you are implying that this infinite IT has dimension, and nothing could be outside of that dimension. The source is dimensionless, there is not inside or outside, dimensions are possible expressions of it. Putting in other words to understand it better, what we call God is the substance, the essence, and what we see as dimensional form is the expression. You can't say that the essence is infinite, what is infinite are the possibiles expressions, but the substance is not in the category that could be finite or infinite. Another example, imagine an universe that arises from a big bang, you could say that the space that appears from it is finite or infinite. Yes, the space could begin and being automatically infinite, some models of cosmology admit that possibility. Then, imagine that arises and it's infinite. Ok, but what about the origin of this infinite space, it's source? Is it infinite? Is it something? What is it? It's absolutely nothing, no thing, no dimension, it can't be thought, is impossible. It only can be described as absence of limits, and be observed in it's manifestations, but you can't say that is infinite because saying if you are putting in it a property and doing so you are closing yourself to it. Unlimited is not a property, is the absence of a property, having limits. Infinity is a property: what never ends. Anything that never ends has limits: being something. You can say, oh please, stop this shit, why making so much scandal for a word? Them I would tell you : in this case let's be in silence like the traditional mystics and stop using words, but if we are using words we have to do without deviation, because any deviation closes.

So there is a duality between the mind and the experience?

Who can believe that there is a me? Me?

That's sure

You can understand the structure of reality, it's simple. Absence of limits implies possibilities happening, anything that appears is relative to another state, being means change and reality lives. But you can't understand what the source of life is, because it's not something, it's the absolute potential that is prior to any dimension. You can perceive it, it's in you, it's what we are, but you can't understand it because "understanding" is just a dimension that arises as an expression of the unfathomable. You could see that I'm one who wants to understand everything, but after some point the structures must fall. Anyway, always open to amplify my perspective

I can tell who understands God just by perceiving how pure is their heart . You can't understand God, you can be open to it.

Yes but the point is deeper, it's about "infinity" implies being, and being implies dimension. Look: Someone might say that the fact of being is absolute because non-being is not, therefore only being is; but of course, that is within the "being" dimension. The dimension, or non-dimension, of "non-being", which implies all possibilities, is not included in being; therefore, being is one face of reality, the affirmative face. What Vedanta mystics called Sat-Chit-Ananda: what is, while being, perceives itself and, given its unrestricted totality, manifests as absolute bliss. But that being is the affirmative face of reality, the luminous, illuminated face. Then there is the lightless face, unfathomable, dimension-less. It is within this face that total life resides. It is the great mystery: the nothingness that is not, yet lives, and whose life is total. Infinity means that have not end, but always implies dimension.

The point is the term "infinity". The term infinity means something that never ends, for example the odds numbers, but it is limited to the odds numbers. Infinity is a dimension and it's used in mathematics . God is prior that any dimension. God is not "a lot of things that never end", is what those things are, it's source, it's essence. God is not hidden in those things, is expressed by those things. Those things could be infinite, but God isn't , it's non dimensional, but it's expressions are infinite. Do you see the point? I think it's essential.

Btw, god is not "infinite", the numbers are infinite, god is unlimited. Unlimited is not big, finite or infinite, is dimensionless, you can't think about it, you can be open to it, to the absolute abyss that implies absolute life, saying it poetically

It has name: god. A name is a word that we put is something that we perceive. No because being is an affirmative property of God. God is being you, but God is let's say the absolute potential that makes possible the fact of being. Being is a fact, anything that is is happening, what is not happening isn't. God is prior to being, the absolute potential don't "is", being is a dimension, a possibility. This idea opens your mind to the unfathomable, to the breaking of the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, something or nothing. God is nothing, but being nothing, is everything. This is not a paradox or a mystical mysterious quote, it is an inevitable relationship. What god is is limitlessness, and limitlessness doesn't "is", but manifest being

That's not the point. For example when I said that god is not being, but that god is, because being is an affirmative property, how god manifests, I'm pointing a key for the real openess. I know exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't see it, that's ok, but my objective is not the discussion but pointing the closures

Same. Well, same than most of spiritual people. They feel threatened if their ideas are challenging because their ideas are part of their identity and also a grip for their balance. That's why they are rigid

That's because you are too egoic for the challenge

Some smart assing, if you allow me: You could say that being is how god manifest, but being is an affirmative property, not God itself, God would be what is. You could say that, but really pleasure, evilness, etc, are expressions of reality, God itself would be the source, and the source is not perfect or imperfect, because those adjectives born in the form, can't define what is prior to form "Where" would be an expression of the reality, the source is dimensionless, dimensions are possibilities. God wouldn't know nothing, because it would be limitless, then something would be just something, just a possibility being possible. God would be the source and the manifestation, there is no source without manifestation or manifestation without source. The source is the unfathomable, the manifestation is the limited. Two faces of the reality. God wouldn't do nothing, it just would be because it would be inevitable, since it couldn't be limited to not being. God would create an universe in the same way that you create shit after eating, because it's your nature. In fact, you are god, expressed as an human You also could say that god contains nothing but it's the unlimited potential for everything. Sure, the time would be an expression of God, the happening, the relationship cause effect, but the unlimited is only caused by the absence of limits, and that's nothing

I humbly believe you are mistaken in equating nothingness and consciousness in terms of ontological category. Consciousness is merely a structure that integrates various levels, creating what we call experience. There is nothing mystical or sacred called " The Consciousness"; it seems that way to us humans because we value consciousness above all else and equate the lack of consciousness with non-existence. But answer this: if you were in an accident and your memory were reduced to zero, and you could not distinguish one instant from another, and you were an alien living for hundreds of billions of years, even all of eternity, yet for you everything were the same non-time, no process, no happening, just a static now without differentiation in which a million years and a second were exactly the same, and there was no difference between anything, would you be conscious? Of course, a Buddhist would answer: exactly!!! This alien would reach the perfect consciousness, the rigpa, sunyatta, pure emptiness. Well, if it's really pure, it's exactly unconsciousness. Anesthesia. No time, no process, no registration. When the Buddhist or meditators say that they reached pure emptiness, they are operating from a system that register information, it's just another state of the mind, being conscious of yourself as a human without the chattering of the mind. Then, in this mind without barriers, the revelation of the source could happen, but it's always from the human interface that register the process

That's just anthrophormize the reality. Same than believing in a bearded god that created you. It's not a good starting point, is a final barrier.

Typical mistake of non duality. As they need that the reality is non dual they affirm that the subject doesn't exist. Don't would be more simple admit that the reality can split in many levels, as we can see in everything, and all them are the reality? Ultimately reality is unlimited, external limits are impossible, because would be out of reality. but due this reason relative internal limits are inevitable. Internal limits are form, and form in not an illusion, is how reality manifest itself. It's like saying that a city is an illusion because everything is the earth, there is no city, only earth. Wtf, there are cities in the earth, period. You guys want to understand or narcotize your minds with mental labyrinths?

Imagine that your memory becomes zero and you can't register change. For you there is no time, same than for the perspective of a foton. There is only one instant that doesn't changes. Are you conscious? Think about it. Without process there is no consciousness, because there is nothing to be conscious of. Consciousness is a process. You could say that consciousness is the process where the reality sees itself, because the subject and the object are ultimately the same reality, but consciousness is not the foundation of reality, is a possibility of the reality. I think some mystics like nisgardatta, who went deeper, understood this obvious fact. But you, who read this, are going to feel attacked in your dogma, because you need to be enlightened, believe in Jesus of anything, and you won't open yourself to the absolute never. That's life. No hindrance for knowing is bigger than believing that you already know, because you need it emotionally to feel safe. Human behaviour.

You can't realize that consciousness is absolute because it's relative. If you erase any relation, consciousness disappear. You are the only non believer in this conversation. Well, and me. All others have adopted a dogma, the absolute consciousness, and they believe that they realised it. That's how the human mind works.

Anyway, respect for the creator of actualized, no argues.

Don't be passive aggressive, I didn't make it personal, I just asked you to explain how consciousness is the truth. Ok, you explained, you are awake and I'm not. Understood.

The absolute truth is that you are, anyone knows it. The real awakening is the openess to what you are. Can't be thought, it's the unlimited, the absolute potential, the source. It's in you, you are the door that encloses the perception to the source, but same time you are the key to the revelation of the absolute potential that the unlimited implies. Your heart is the key, it's inside your heart, and the door that encloses it is made of fear.