Breakingthewall

That's just anthrophormize the reality. Same than believing in a bearded god that created you. It's not a good starting point, is a final barrier.

Typical mistake of non duality. As they need that the reality is non dual they affirm that the subject doesn't exist. Don't would be more simple admit that the reality can split in many levels, as we can see in everything, and all them are the reality? Ultimately reality is unlimited, external limits are impossible, because would be out of reality. but due this reason relative internal limits are inevitable. Internal limits are form, and form in not an illusion, is how reality manifest itself. It's like saying that a city is an illusion because everything is the earth, there is no city, only earth. Wtf, there are cities in the earth, period. You guys want to understand or narcotize your minds with mental labyrinths?

Imagine that your memory becomes zero and you can't register change. For you there is no time, same than for the perspective of a foton. There is only one instant that doesn't changes. Are you conscious? Think about it. Without process there is no consciousness, because there is nothing to be conscious of. Consciousness is a process. You could say that consciousness is the process where the reality sees itself, because the subject and the object are ultimately the same reality, but consciousness is not the foundation of reality, is a possibility of the reality. I think some mystics like nisgardatta, who went deeper, understood this obvious fact. But you, who read this, are going to feel attacked in your dogma, because you need to be enlightened, believe in Jesus of anything, and you won't open yourself to the absolute never. That's life. No hindrance for knowing is bigger than believing that you already know, because you need it emotionally to feel safe. Human behaviour.

You can't realize that consciousness is absolute because it's relative. If you erase any relation, consciousness disappear. You are the only non believer in this conversation. Well, and me. All others have adopted a dogma, the absolute consciousness, and they believe that they realised it. That's how the human mind works.

Anyway, respect for the creator of actualized, no argues.

Don't be passive aggressive, I didn't make it personal, I just asked you to explain how consciousness is the truth. Ok, you explained, you are awake and I'm not. Understood.

The absolute truth is that you are, anyone knows it. The real awakening is the openess to what you are. Can't be thought, it's the unlimited, the absolute potential, the source. It's in you, you are the door that encloses the perception to the source, but same time you are the key to the revelation of the absolute potential that the unlimited implies. Your heart is the key, it's inside your heart, and the door that encloses it is made of fear.

Physical means nothing, there are not categories, everything is the reality. And I'm awaken enough to don't say to the people that I'm right because I'm awake and they aren't, that's very low.

How? What is consciusness without memory? Imagine that your memory is zero. There is no change, no registration. What consciousness would be that? Nothing. Then the truth itself needs registration of change? That's not fundamental. Btw, what is the truth? Is there any falsehood? There is only the reality. The difference being a human that is conscious is in the degrees of closure, but reality is the same if I'm open to it or not.

Why not? Then consciousness is the foundation of reality? How? Consciousness always needs forms, without any form there is no consciousness. Infinite consciousness is unconsciousness. Imagine no form and no time. No, you can't imagine it, because it's the no form. no consciousness could be without process, registration and duality

Consciousness is simply reality organized in a specific way. As you may have observed, reality is organized into interconnected, coherent patterns. For example, if you observe a stone down to its basic structure, at the quantum level, you will find coherent patterns upon coherent patterns, dynamically synchronized, always in motion, in constant change. Life is simply one more phase of that web of possibilities in which reality self-organizes into a pattern that actively self-preserves. Willpower appears; the pattern wants to be. This happens simply because the pattern that perpetuates itself is the one with this characteristic. After quintillions of possible patterns, this one, the one that self-preserves, remains. Evolution begins, and within it, patterns of sufficient complexity appear to develop what we call the mind: a dynamic, stable pattern that creates a model of the information exchange between the organism that wants to persist and the external universe. That interface model is simply reality in a complex, organized pattern, the exact same as a molecule, a star, a galaxy. A possible pattern among the limitless possibilities of reality's inevitable movement. Well, within that pattern, reality becomes conscious of itself, observing itself. For instance, in a star, reality builds itself; in an atom, it organizes itself, to give a few examples. Reality does not do this because it wants to, but because it can. Reality can do anything, since it has no limits, and it wants nothing, since "wanting" is just a possibility within reality, much like consciousness. Seriously, if you truly want to open yourself up to what you really are, you must transcend the idea that reality is consciousness. Reality implies the possibility of being conscious, and you are now the eye of reality, or the reality expressed as an eye. If you really want to open yourself to the unlimited you must abandon the unconscious idea that the unlimited is an entity. You have to erase yourself, then the absolute will open in you, because you are that.

Consciousness is just a form. Same than a stone. For you consciousness is a big thing because you are conscious, but reality is not consciousness, is where consciousness is a possibility. If you want I could explain it, but I doubt that anyone have the mind open enough to understand what Is obvious

Infinity don't create the physical reality, the physical reality, that is, the diferentiation, is the inevitable manifestation of the infinity. As there are not limits, differentiation arises. There are no difference between the unlimited and the limited, the limited and relative is the inevitable expression of the absolute unlimited. Saying that the unlimited is real and the limited a dream is incorrect. The unlimited is not an entity who creates a dream, what you call dream is the unlimited appearing. There is not unlimited without expression, there is no separation between the form and the formless, both are one, then the form is not a dream , is form, period. The difference is crucial, one closes, another opens.

Saying that reality is a hallucination implies a subject, an entity, that is having that hallucination, thereby establishing an absolute duality between subject and object. This is impossible; there is not an absolute subject, because if there were, it would be a limited and relative entity. The absolute is not dreaming, it is reality, not the one who creates reality.

Sure, and being a homeless is being a millionaire disguised as something else No, liberation is when the self that wants freedom manage to break the barriers that keep it imprisoned. The self never dies being a human because it exists. For example, question: ice cream or Apache torture? 5 seconds to choose

I'm not saying that sadhguru is bad, just questioning his motivation. He says too many weird assessments, it's very difficult to interpret him. He's hermetic, an enigma

The ego is just an expression of the reality, is how reality manifests in the form of an human. For example, you don't like to be enjailed in a room alone for 10 years, because that preference have been created by evolution. You can't pretend that for you it's fine because you have not ego, having ego is inevitable, same than having a body.

What about ethnic cleansing, is not God? Then how it's possible that exists? So if you are enjailed in a Nigerian prison at 12 to be gang raped every night for 30 men with aids, you should choose love. Maybe they already did for you Very hippy. What about the purpose of the body when you are enslaved in a plantation? Working? Sure, the ego is a mistake that god did because he's dumb. Or better, God don't like the ego, it's against God. Poor god, sad because the ego What if he says to rape kids? Ah, then it's not the holy spirit. You know that is the holy spirit if he says things aligned with the Bible. The Disney world, where all your wishes become real. Sure, of course you are not responsible of those rapes of kids. Sure, I would celebrate the guy who raped my son with a 1 week session of medieval torture finished with gasoline and a flame dancing around and shouting like a Sioux. That would make me extremely happy. I would record to watch with my family on holiday. That would educate my son about what being human implies. Of course, war is love, but we could call it war, to simplify. Sure. Today is raining and cold and I just saw an African guy who seems schizophrenic laying in the street with plastics to avoid rain . Maybe the universe though he needs just that and you a house and a family. In short: spirituality. A joke

Then if you have OCD and you are the whole day ruminating about getting sick and your basis feeling is horror, it's an illusion and you are already free. Maybe you live in a box in the street and you think that you are already millionaire. Again: if your experience is closed, you are closed, if you are sad because your cat died, you are sad, and that is, it's not an illusion, it's sadness. You can call it illusion or as you want, but it exists. The reality is, let say, real.

Sure, but maybe he doesn't to gain popularity, that is power. Then he's not so amazing, he's a politician.

Well they could accept the Sufis or Christian mysticism that are part of the religions

The most funny thing of going through that process is that you have to arrive to the point where you started: absence of need of validation. Seems so stupid so much struggle for that reason, but that's life.

I think real spirituality is impossible to refute. You could talk about it with anyone who is bit introspective and they couldn't denying. Real spirituality could be rerume: reality is. You are. Then you are the reality, in the form of this you. Spirituality means breaking the limitations of the psyche and open yourself to the totality of what you are. Period, nothing else. Nobody could say that's false

I think you can connect with people who's open and you can't with those who are closed. Is anyone is open you don't need to say a lot. Was so easy to connect when kid, I was always in open field with my friends without parents around and reality was magic, me and my cousin were in connection with the universe, or seems so to me, my happiness was absolute always, reality was shinning, the school was bit boring but outside everything was alive. Then you are not a kid anymore and life becomes a mess that is absolutely crazy, a real maze impossible to understand, a real fight against the abyss of madness, of isolation. Everyone around is crazy, alienated, and you see that you should be like that too in order to fit. In those moments is where a psychotic breakthrough is not far. People who feel life deep get depressed, alienated, psychotic, and those who get adapted are who are shallow or directly dumb. Everything is about appearing cool in order to be accepted for a brunch of people who are lying every word they talk, everything is like a movie and you have to act there. Until a point arrives where you think that there in only one perspective: mine. Only one judgement: mine. But you have to conquer freedom fighting hard. Anyway just a reflection without any relationship with the question

Hes right 😅