Breakingthewall

Sure, you sound aitenthic pure soul, no doubt. Anyway, I just pointed a couple of things about the absolute and the relative. Answering saying brother and that is cool, but what about the points?

Translation: hey I'm here to appear brilliant, don't mess with ideas and conversation ok?

You don't need to do that, "raise your consciousness" it's meaningless in order to open yourself to the absolute. What anyone that want to be open to the absolute have to do is forget the level of forms for a while and place himself in the level of being. It's not "raise" you consciousness but shift the angle of perception from form to substance. "Substance" as the affirmative fact or existing

Sounds profound. The only problem is that is meaningless. The absolute is being and any form is a manifestation of being, then it's the same one form or infinite forms, because all of them are. A quote without sense is precisely a quote without sense. If anyone tells a quote without sense, it's because he's wrong, not because he's so profound that you can't grasp it

You would get insane if you have been programmed by genetics to be a social being from billions of years. If you had been programmed to be alone you will be ok alone.

you could elaborate and having a conversation. Or maybe you don't dare because your ideas are not solid? Anyway, try and let's see.

I see an essential mistake there. The absolute can be experienced all time because the absolute is not the sum of every relative thing but the nature of anything that exists. The absolute is the fact of being and being enlightened means being open to the nature of the absolute being. Forms are relative, but the absolute is not the sum of all forms, one or all are the same, are the absolute manifested as a form, then you don't need to know all forms to know the absolute, you just have to be, and obviously you are, then what you have to do is just to transcend the form for a while and open yourself to the absolute. Much more simple than the wrong path that in focused in the form thinking that this is the absolute

I don't think so, paradox is just lack of understanding. Reality is absolutely logical. Saying things like: reality in nothing and everything. That's nice and if you wear white Linus and long bread it's even better, but it's just a wrong quote. It's much better to go to the point and define it. Reality is not nothing. "Nothing" is just a concept that doesn't exist in reality since it's formulated from "something". Then saying that reality is nothing is just a mistake.

Where is a paradox in reality? Reality is absolutely logical

I think it would the same, they have that drive and that's it, same than any living organism have the drive of survival and at the end it will die, it matters for them because "matters" is the drive that constitutes them. Imagine that you are a tribal man from 100 thousands years ago, and you were in war with the neighbor tribe as always, for you that war would matter absolutely, without the slightest doubt. You would be absolutely focused in that war with all your being. Why? Because the drive or life that you would be would push in that direction without any other option, that's life in its push fighting from the basic cell to the complex organism and to the civilization for the right of being, not because it's a law or any divine will but because who don't do, don't is, then who is, is because it wins. That's what "matters" mean. Maybe in the future we will be a kinda of cyborgs or energetic flow of information or interdimensional intelligence, then a) would be the same than b), so nothing would matter, but for now every breath matters.

The reality is the absence of limits that is, because nothing limits it. The fact of being manifest as relative change or becoming because the absence of becoming is not. So the becoming is, and this becoming is this, now. Totally direct without boss who organizes. It's you existing interconnected with all the possibilities that are possible. But beyond the form you are the fact of being, that's unlimited. You can open yourself to this alive reality now. In fact it's quite simple, but it's bad explained.

The inevitable flow of reality manifested in endless change is enough to actualize any possibility that is possible. The creation and the creator are the same, it's just the reality happening.

If that possibility wants to come to existence there is not a god deciding if it should be or not, if always that god loves any possibility that is possible, then that god is not necessary, all the possibilities possible will be, then there is not God creating them, just possibilities happening because are possible

Why God would do that? Because he is good? Sounds bit strange, like a god who has good feelings, like a person, and has plans. Plans for what? He already did infinite plans right?

@Ziran It seems you don't understand that a god who creates finite beings would have to do so from within himself. Therefore, it would already have those beings within himself and would have no reason to create them. Furthermore, being infinite, he would have already done so an infinite number of times, and nothing would compel him to take any action because he would already be complete within himself. The god you imagine is not a god; it is reality itself, and it lacks intention. It simply is and manifests itself in possibilities. There is no one behind the scenes; this, now, is reality, and it flows upon itself because it's inevitable, and possibilities arises because are possible.

That would mean that finite beings are created by God will but acts against god will

Yes, for example, how would you understand evilness and God will? Then for you God is an entity that posseses finite properties. Any entity is defined, then finite by definition

Could be but any understanding belongs to the level of the understanding, or the mind that creates maps. The point of meditation is being able to break all the frontiers and being without any separation. That's not the same than knowing, because it requires the dissolution of many layers of separation that are inherent to the human nature . It's alive, what you really are without barriers.

Exactly again, then, with this conceptual framework that has no contradiction or closure, what would be the real step a human mind can take to open itself to its absolute nature? Well, I'll answer myself. It's extremely simple, without any mystery. It's about taking a step beyond the human conceptual level based on the opposition between opposites and situating oneself in the absolute fact of being, without any anchor of grip. This isn't an idea or something you know; it's an action. In it, you are without limit or definition, and in doing so, you are one with reality; you are reality. Then your support for existing ceases to be the learned conceptual framework and becomes the direct fact of being. Seems banal but it's very difficult releasing all the grips. Absolutely all.

If God is infinite as you said it's will would be also infinite, then for it would be the same clarity or raping kids, then you can't talk about a will. A will is exclusive by definition, and exclusive is finite by definition

It happens when you take a high dose of psychedelic, it's a common phenomena. You usually perceive your experience as limited, then you take the drug x and for a moment you perceive yourself without limits, that's extremely strange, so your mental processes restructure for a while creating the certainly of that you are creating the reality with your mind, and being unlimited, obviously the others only exist as images because if they have their own experiences, it would be a limit between you and them, and this is impossible from your actual perception. Imo it's just a mistake that happens when you confuse your unlimited nature with your limited form.

I think that there could be a recipe, the question is avoiding the mistakes. Those Buddhist created their ideas thousands years ago, and they were geniuses for the level of knowledge that was possible in that time. Imo all their paradigm aims to free the mind, but the problem is that those ideas have many blind points and contradictions that make the seeker stuck, closed in ideas like void, no self, etc. that's why Buddhism split in many contradiction branches. It's possible a perfect formulation, the key is avoiding what's wrong.

depends on what "matters" means to you. If "matters" means emotional concern about what happens, then nothing matters for you if you are dead(obviously) but this is a view from within your current human emotional paradigm. If we broaden our perspective, that emotional concern about what happens would be the vector of the cause-and-effect flow of reality pointing in a certain direction. Then you could say that for reality, it "matters" that x happens instead of y, simply because it points to x. You could also say that it makes no difference to you personally whether x or y happens, but reality is pointing to x. Why? Because the unfolding of causality and form has created patterns that have a directional vector that we call "matters." Therefore, at that local point in reality, that x happens instead of y "matters." For a cell, not dying matters, simply because it aims to not die. It makes no difference to you personally? Great,.then at the local point in reality called veganawake, nothing matters. But in other points matters. Matters is just preference, and in reality preference arises.

Agree, then saying things like: "reality is a dream" , make no sense, reality is the reality. The only thing that you could say about reality is that reality is.

If I'm in the pure present without mind, nothing tells me that the other people are imaginary and I'm creating them in order to have a human experience , but they have not inner experience. How do you know that?