Breakingthewall

If civilization does not collapse and continues to evolve at an accelerated pace, it is literally unimaginable what human beings will be like in 500 years. It is like trying to explain a particle accelerator to someone from the Middle Ages. We do not understand the structure of reality; we know there are physical laws, space and time, and we assume a Big Bang occurred, but this could be merely the tip of an iceberg of infinite proportions. Around 1900 the scientist though that physics was already done, science have reached the bottom of the understanding of reality. Now any scientist would admit that we are just scratching the surface. Imagine an IA that replicates itself and use the energy of the matter transforming planets in data centers interconnected, or directly access to the unlimited energy of the void . The case is that we know that the reality can organise itself from a complex molecule to a technological civilization just by possibility, by catalytic processes, and seems that there are not limits

I don't think that evolution has a purpose, it's just something that happens because it's possible. The universe is very big, even if there were millions of technological civilizations, they could be undetectable. They might operate at quantum or interdimensional levels, or transform into a flow of pure intelligence expanding into new dimensions. Trying to understand this would be like a prehistoric man trying to figure out whether Apple is better than Android.

Ishanga, friend, you was complaining about the low consciousness of this forum when it was very high in comparison with now😂. dont be so pessimistic, see the glass a bit, just a bit, let's say a fraction of a millimeter, full

It's ridiculous if you think that "consciousness" is an individual . It's what happens to people who take psychedelics and as they can't breaking all the boundaries because they are not ready for it, they find as only exit inflate their ego and believe that they are god creating a dream. Consciousness is not a god or a creator, is just a reflexive structure. There is not a big you creating the movie, it's just limitlessness appearing as this possibility. The ego never, ever, in any case, would accept this. It's absolutely horrible for the ego, but this is a mistake. The absolute unlimited is everything. Who wants to be a miserable god dreaming when you are the open totality, the absolute vastness, the total freedom without boundaries.

Foxes and birds have lots of advantages, but they can't open it's eyes to the absolute, and humans can. Then who needs holes and nests when you have what has not limits as home? Who wants being an slave when you can be free, tasting the absolute freedom that is your true nature? Bliss is very simple: it's what happens when all boundaries disappear. Ananda as the advaita said, the absolute joy of being without limitations that is inherent to everything

To speak with a minimum of precision, the matter stands thus: any manifestation of reality is change. Any change is relative to a prior state or another point of reference. Reality is not change itself, but rather manifests as change. Reality is also the absence of change, yet this does not manifest; it *is*, but it does not appear, nor does it occur. Relative change is a possibility that unfolds without limit, origin, or boundary. To understand change is not to understand reality, for the essence of reality is absolute being. Opening yourself to absolute being is to understand reality, since absolute being, beyond all change, is what you are. Every change, contrast, appearance, and structure is absolute being manifesting within a possibility that is taking place. There is nothing else; it is quite simple, yet it is total. Absolute being, your true nature, is the total openness that is, the bottomless depth that lives because it has no bottom. It is the total freedom of absolute power. But do not confuse power with choice. Absolute power is not an individual making a decision; it is the total force inherent to the fact of limitlessness. It is the absolute glory of having no boundaries. You are that, not a god who decides, but the absence of limits. Opening yourself to this requires a certain... absolute detachment. But being closed between the limits is misery. Only freedom is an option, anything else is a trap of madness

The essential quality of life is proliferation. At a certain point, life evolves into systems that kill other systems to obtain energy, and that is where the party begins. The essence of evolution is total war. There is only one law: survive or die. Anything goes in this war: speed, poison, traps, cunning, size, concealment. The sole objective is to kill so as not to die. Even so, most species go extinct; others take their place, only to be wiped out by another, more efficient system. At some point, the symbolic mind emerges, evolving outside of genetic matter at a pace millions of times faster, and it’s game over. In the absurdly short span of 200,000 years, a geological blink of an eye, this mind becomes the one that sets the rules. Soon, it will dominate matter, biology, the laws of the cosmos, and reality itself, because it is reality itself, happening as a symbolic mind.

I’ve seen it; it’s interesting, same that other about publicity of the same author, but I do think there is more stability and "normalization" now than there ever was before. If you take a slice of human history. say, from 1700 to 1900, and look at what was happening everywhere (in China, Europe, the Americas, Africa), what you see is constant chaos with pockets of order. In China for example, in 1850 a guy who said that was the son of God and the young brother of Jesus organized a rebellion where 30 million died. Extreme convulsions have been a constant. Now we have technology and nukes and things seems more "normalized", because they are absolute limits. Without them, world would be like Warhammer

Better than disagreeing you could try understanding, but your choice

When something is obvious people should see it. What Zen masters? Maybe those who are wrong.

Consciousness is just the reality structured in self reflexive mode. It's absolutely obvious, and can be explained, there is no mystery, no doer, it's just a possibility that is possible. Who is perceiving? The reality structured a a "who", a self, a center. What is perceived? The reality structured as an object. It's so obvious that is difficult understanding why it's a "mystery".

What is awareness? Is it something? Like a property of the reality? The reality itself? Where is the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness?

Leo caught a glimpse of the face of God when he was a early 30s Westerner hitting the clubs in search of sex. He lacked the necessary trajectory, journey. he hadn't passed through the valley of tears and death (of the ego), and the face of God seared him. He couldn't humble his ego to make way for God, so the ego came to believe that was God. At first, it was a brilliant, energetic, divine ego, but that energy gradually faded; it didn't stem from the source of truth, but rather from the *idea* of truth, which is always corrupt, never pure, crystalline, transparent, absolute and true. So, what happens now? How do we get out of this mess? With absolute humility. Or maybe there are not balls for it? Ohhh so common: God is good, sure, but I choose my ego. But as I know that this choice is absurd, then I believe that my ego is God. How we named this? Well, it's so obvious. the door is just here, now, just open your heart and humble your fucking ego.

The goal of meditation is to open your being to the totality. If you manage to dissolve the barriers and open yourself to that totality, your approach to life will change drastically. Your perspective will no longer be limited. This doesn't mean that lacking money ceases to be a problem, but rather that it is not an absolute problem. The difference is subtle, yet essential.

You are talking about an impossibility, that is, that a spiritual teacher is a narcissist and a liar. It's absolutely impossible. In fact, is one day it would happen, reality would implode and disappear for ever, everyone knows that. Sadhguru approved 👍. Stop that horrible blasphemy and be again a believer, for your own good (and the good of this reality)

I’ve had that experience of the total dissolution of the subject-object duality, let’s say, 200 times, mostly sober, to pick a number. I think I understand quite well how it works. Let’s see: at a certain point, you empty your mind completely, and there is only "I am". the fact of a center that perceives an experience and knows that it exists. This "I am" is exactly the same in me, in you, or in any other reflective structure. It's just a structure. Two limits: subject and object. Then you focus on the subject, on the perceiving center. What is it? Is it someone? If you maintain that focus long enough, at a certain moment the subject-object duality collapses. Reality loses its boundaries, since "I" and "am" are two boundaries, and opens up. It is total, and within that totality, its essence manifests: limitlessness. It is beyond thought. At first, it feels like your brain is going to fry, and tears stream down your face. A single second of this opening changes your life. Afterward, the habitual structure returns. So, is the "I" an illusion? No; it is a real structure that reality assumes. it’s just that the substance of the "I" is the same as the substance of the "am." What changes is the structure; that structure is real, it exists. Because reality without structure is non existence. Always any structure is, no structure is "never". Doesn't happen. Then call the structure illusion is confusing. Better calling it "structure".

No, it's simply basic logic

That is impossible, if god is infinite, a desire to know something can't come because if would come infinitely and beef fulfilled infinitely, then that god would be psychotic. God is not an entity with desires, is the reality, and the reality is because it has not limits, and as it is, it happens

Yes, when you talk about non dual states I see that are real dissolution of limits

Maybe but if for you this reality is an illusion and there is another reality more real then there is a barrier. This right now is the reality, and the self is an expression of the reality, it's absolutely real (because it's the reality), then you can open yourself to it totally, without reservation, without the idea of illusions

I Also respect yours , but saying that the self is an illusion is just a mistake

No I don't follow any path, I see the metaphor of Kali after realising what reality is. The only path that I follow is opening myself to the fact of being now, it's very simple, you are the reality now, it's absolutely obvious, and you are total, unlimited. You don't need drugs of teachings, just breaking all your barriers until no one remains

How could God evolve if it's infinite? God doesn't want nothing, shiva is a metaphor the absolute immutable fact of being and Kali for the inevitable manifestation of that fact in cycles of creation and destruction.

The self is the reality manifested as a self. The self is a structure that arises in the complex living beings that creates a model of the exchange of information exterior and interior and interacts and are connected with its pairs. Thoughts, feelings, sensation of the body, need of survival, need of communication, are programming created by evolution that makes that self as it is. This self has will created by the evolution, and it is absolutely real. But this self is not different than the reality, is the reality structured as a self. Then this self, that knows that is, can dissolve the absolute separation between it and the reality and be the absolute reality appearing as a self that knows that is. This doesn't mean that the self is absolute, just that is. The reality doesn't need a self, but as a self is possible, it is. So open yourself to the unlimited, and be the unlimited knowing that is.

@Seraphim This is the existence. Some called it Kali. Or maybe you would prefer this other modern hot version In both cases, the existence is the eternal cycle of creation and destruction, and it's depth is total. There is not restriction for creation, neither for destruction. There is only the dance of Kali. Kali steps on Shiva, in the pure absolute being, because they are married, they are one. Shiva can't avoid manifesting as Kali, Kali can't avoid it's absolute pure unlimited nature of what doesn't change. Reality is like a flame, like an infinite atomic bomb that explodes and creates without limit of restriction, but everything that is created, has to be destroyed. From destruction another creation arises, and Kali dances over shiva, being both one.