Breakingthewall

Exactly, it's a process of alignment, cleaning. It's more or less automatic, when you really start to move in the direction of the openess, little by little, old mental habits get broken,a real change occurs. For me there is always some degree of closeness in day by day. As you said, serious meditation is necessary to break through, even for a few moments, the shell of the ego, which then returns. Sometimes it happens spontaneously, but usually there is closeness. The interesting thing is that you begin to perceive the mechanisms that close us off, and if you're even slightly perceptive, you'll see that these mechanisms are very deep and inherent to human beings. For example, the need for solid human bonds is paramount being a human. We could deny this fact calling the relationships "maya", but this doesn't going to make that need to disappear. we live in a society where relationships are extremely superficial, and this is deeply destabilizing. Spirituality is often used as a band-aid or an escape, just like success in any field. When you can't trust anyone, not even yourself, you need to build a network of stories, desires, and fears that keeps you grounded; otherwise, your psyche will collapse. Peering into the abyss of total nihilism, as you mentioned before, isn't something many people want to do. It's absolutely a must in you want to open yourself to the unlimited. You cant immerse yourself in the total ocean introducing only a toe, you have to jump without net.

That sounds like: I write to show that I'm very profound, same time I imply that all the words written in the thread are unnecessary mess for who's very elevate as me . Please, don't disturb my pure and clean silence. Namaste. Ohm. My pure presence is the only enlightenment that you need. Give me some money. This spirituality is outdated. Fewer and fewer people believe narcissists who sell their presence. We need to be concrete, direct, and without evasions.

Enlightenment is something very simple yet very difficult. It is the dissolution of the inner boundaries of the psyche. Boundaries are defenses, created by evolution given the reality of life in general and human life in particular. These defenses are especially subtle and powerful in the social game, where acceptance equates to life and rejection to death (when humans were tribal). Their force is enormous, and facing them head-on without fear or avoidance is a challenge. The barriers of the psyche are not thoughts; rather, thoughts emanate from them. They are real neurological structures that activate when they connect with the situations for which they were created. Behind them lies the primordial barrier: the fear of death, the need to remain. Gazing into the great abyss of total dissolution and opening oneself to it is the ultimate challenge. Enlightenment is not about knowing things, realizing what you are, being consciousness, etc., but about opening your energetic configuration by releasing all barriers and being without limits. only for a moment at first, gradually building up to sustain that openness until it becomes your reality

Both are real. There is not "how real". How real is a stone in comparison with a planet? Exactly in the same level: real. A dream is happening due countless of relationship between fields, etc, same than anything else. Spirituality is not that mess, is being open to your total nature, that is the nature of everything, that is the absence of limits that is. But you are open to it from a limited structure or process that is happening now that is your human nature. Nothing is a "dream" , thats just obscurantist spirituality that confuses everyone

It's exactly as real than being awake, but in another state. Don't you see that you are dividing the reality in categories, putting a higher category the label of "truth", and lower category the label of "dream"?

Any limit is real since it's happening. If you create a limit between the observer and the object, the limit is happening and has consequences. Maybe it's not absolute, can be dissolved, but until you dissolve it, it is. Labelling everything as illusory is just a mental complication without any utility. This could sounds like poetry, but is meaningless in the sense that divide the true essence (the screen) and the form. This is non dualistic spirituality.

Dreams are real. For a dream to occur billions of neural connection are happening. A dream Is as real as a stone or a Galaxy, there are no categories of reality. Maybe for you as a human a dream has no consequences and a stone in your head yes, but that doesn't implies that one is more rela than other

The reality manifested in a process that is happening, like anything else When we talk about "true", or "absolute", it means unlimited. Limited is made by limitation, for example if you perceive yourself as pain, or sadness, or anything concrete. The point of meditation is open yourself to the unlimited, that means the relaxation of all the limits. When you are the witness of the thoughts there is a limit between you and the thoughts

This is not your true essence, it's just an state where you split the reality between the witness and the forms that arises. That witness seems empty because it's a limited perspective that you are creating by the fact of meditating. Your true essence gets open when the separation between object and subject collapses and you release the control. The fact of being an observer is contraction, that's why it feels so tense

What imagination? That's spiritual bypassing . Then there is the reality, that is pure and good, and your imagination, that is impure and bad.

The distinctions are real. Pretending they don't exist is a kind of spiritual narcissism that closes you off. No one achieves openness with those non-dualistic tricks. You have to know how to differentiate between process and substance; then you can function as a process aligned with your total nature. To pretend that everything is illusory is to deny something that exists, a kind of mental castration that locks you in a dead state that you define as "awake."

I see it different, everything is just the reality happening, processes unfolding, it's not "maya", it's just how reality manifest. The "truth" is the perception of the nature of the reality beyond the form. That doesn't mean that the form is Maya or unreal, means that the form is form, and the nature is the nature. Both are two aspects of the reality. No one is false. But the point is being open to the total nature of the reality, to what is. Then the form appears as what is in this form . I think that this of Maya is not useful to see clearly, but it's just my opinion. Anyway, a pleasure to talk

Then why do you call it dream if it's the same than the reality? A dream is something less real, an illusion. An illusion is illusory because it's not real. If anything is an illusion is in comparison with something that is not an illusion. If everything is an illusion, then it's just you putting labels to create an unnecessary mental mess

It's much more simple: everything is real because everything is the reality. Or maybe are you one of those non dualistic who make an absolute duality between real and dream?

Of course, it's the reality happening, I would call real to the reality. You are there, if you want to call it unreal to feel better it's your choice. But if anything is not real, then what is "real"?

I do since you equate fear and illusion. That means escapism. Like: this is just a dream, it's not happening. That's just a mental trick. Maybe you went through a very hard problems, but this attitude is evasion.

This is where you enter the realm of non-dualistic modern spirituality, and your reasoning completely collapses. Fear is not an illusion; it's an essential mechanism for the complex process we call life to be possible. If you're serious about spirituality, you have to confront fear for real. Not just "observing" it at home, but when death and ruin lurks. Then you'll see how illusory it truly is.

There are two types of people: those who observe reality to understand it, and those who do so to reinforce a self-image they need. You don't have to be Muslim, uneducated, or anything like that; you could be a Nobel laureate, but if you operate in defensive mode, you'll see all of reality through the filter of your absolute need for identity.

That's because you have the ingrained stereotype of the strong, protective man who faces the world head-on, versus the emotionally focused woman who provides support and love. This stereotype isn't inherently "bad," but women have been trapped in it and have had fewer rights than men because of it, and they've decided to break free from it, with both positive and negative consequences for them.

People hated the Jews because they lived in their country and were much richer, more powerful, and more educated, and moreover, they didn't want to mix with them under any circumstances. They intermarried and helped each other, but within the framework of another culture.

Gypsies are just as tribal, and nobody cares about them. Jews are hated for a much more obvious reason: because they gain access to real power, they pull the strings in the societies where they settle. They don't put on entertaining dance and circus shows; they dominate finance, the media, then the politics. So, in the end, there's usually an antisemitic movement, like the one that might emerge in the US if Operation Epic Ridiculous continues down its seemingly inevitable path.

The problem is the other way around. It's men who don't want to enter into serious relationships with women because they don't want a tyrant with absurd ideas about life constantly complaining that things aren't the way she wants them to be and demanding that the man be the emotional support for her unstable mind in exchange for the dubious privilege of having a secure emotional bond with a narcissist.

How could you be not afraid if you are afraid?

@Someone here What you're talking about is a good level of meditation. What you're doing is real meditation, opening yourself to what is now. But let's see, when you say that there's emptiness inside you if thoughts stop, that can be nuanced. When the mind stops completely and you perceive yourself as a process unfolding now, at a certain point reality loses its dual dimension, "inside you," "your thoughts." There is no longer an inside or outside, no limits restricting anything. Then you are floating in the abyss that is this moment, and at a certain point, you are this moment, without any interpretation or barrier, completely clear, pure. When you can reach this point naturally, that's when it gets difficult, at least for me. In this absolute moment, there is one last barrier. Poetically speaking, your heart is closed, and it is because you are afraid, because you cling to the fact of being you, to the control of what is. The challenge is to open yourself, to let go of that last control, to break free from form and be pure substance without restrictions. This is enlightenment, nothing less. It is access to the Tao, to the source, and you cannot think or remember, you can only be now. It's not "nothing ", it's unlimited, it's everything. Then the door closes up, and you perceive the closure in you, in your body, in your heart, but anyway you can't open it. A lot of adjustments must be done to align yourself, at least it's what I feel, what I'm doing, the path that I choose

Look clown , seems that there are not moderators in this forum, just I'm asking you to go out of this thread. I think you are a disgusting clown and would be nice if you disappear from here with your annoying narcissism. Could you be so kind? Im asking you very politely, don't you think so? Then start another thread to show how smart you are.