Breakingthewall

For me, stupidity is the attitude of prioritizing your emotional needs over the facts. It's something that happens at some basic mental foundation, and then you build an entire edifice of stupidity upon it. You can't go back because it would mean the destruction of your entire psychological structure, and you don't dare do that. Therefore, you reinforce your stupidity and become a complete stupid . It's very common. When the stupid is old it's dramatic.

That speech is full of mistakes. He says that the person who worries, who searches, etc., is a habit, an idea you create. It's not like that; it's a social psychological structure created by evolution, and it's real. If you consider the ego false, you'll never get out of it. The point isn't to deny the self but to break its limits. Nisgardatta is still a self with preferences. He kept smoking and giving lectures. Maybe he enjoyed doing it, right? Then why trying to appear detached and special? The Enlightenment thing is simple: stay in the "I am," as he says, until "I" and "am" are one, until there is no subject and object, no awareness of being aware, but rather unlimited absolute being. Then totality opens up. After that, you don't need to say you're not human and that everything is imaginary to confuse people and appear special.

If you are open to your true nature your behavior changes because the true reality of being a human start to reveal itself little by little. You stop being something that needs to be filled, then you stop addictions and behavior born from lack and you perceive yourself as expansive reality in human form.

It's not a belief system; it's the direct fact of being. It seems the previous text was too complicated and you didn't understand it, that's why you wrote again a condescending nonsense. Let's look at this: YOU ARE. YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FACT OF BEING CONSCIOUS OF BEING. THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO KNOW. THEREFORE, YOU KNOW EVERYTHING It's simple enough? Then, as you are and the reality is, then the reality and you are not different. Where is the problem? Remove everything until absolute being remains, and that s it. It's not like understanding quantum physics, it's quite simple. Or if you prefer (to avoid the forbidden "you"): the fact of being is what appears as "you" in the form of a conscious mind. The fact of being is absolute because the fact of non being is not a fact, is nothing, nothing is not. Being is.

In our society, we are educated from birth to be consumers; we are receivers of objects, content, and experiences that we like and find entertaining, and we perceive our value within the human group by whether we are liked and validated. From adolescence onward, being liked and validated becomes key. We crave an ideal of beauty, wealth, and social skills that places us at the top of the pyramid, allowing us to enter the "fit" zone, and we see others as allies or adversaries depending on their level of fitness. Sex is presented to us from childhood as consumption. By age 12, we watch an amount of porn that would leave the Marquis de Sade perplexed, and if you are more or less "fit," random sporadic sex is within anyone's reach. It is absolutely natural to perceive sex and life in general as an act of consumption, not of expansion. I am not talking about selfishness, expansion is also selfish, i am talking about the vector. The vector created within us by our society points inward. The consumer is a pit that must be filled. This poses a serious problem: it closes us off. We have become isolated, self-reflective bubbles that need validation from their peers and seek pleasurable, satisfying experiences. These bubbles are always in a state of lack. They cannot be filled; they can only reach a level where the anxiety of insufficiency isn't overly noticeable. The problem with this is that it makes us idiots. We only see the reflection of our character, like a wall right in front of our face, flat and made of anxiety. This persona must be improved so that we can receive more of the good things we want. We all know where this leads: to a medicated society. Children born to fill a void, who will be raised by neurotics riddled with anxiety. This is an interesting labyrinth. At a given moment, you are a teenager caught up in this mess that is impossible to understand, surrounded by alienation, and you create a character .Real values like loyalty, honor, courage, surrender, and integrity sound great in movies, thousands of which we consume, providing us with engineered emotions that substitute for the honor, courage, surrender, and integrity that are scarce or nonexistent in our consumer reality. This makes us absolutely idiotic; we are so idiotic it is brutal. We are trapped in a bubble of idiocy. Escaping it is a challenge of enormous difficulty. It requires changing our vector of existence, the direction in which we point. Changing from a pit to a source, from a consumer to an expanding being. The point we are at is the consequence of humanity's massive conquest of reality. Seriously imagine for a moment, right now, being teleported to London in 1750. Seriously. We don't want that. But the enormous change that has occurred has made us neurotic, alienated, and closed off. This is endured more or less well thanks to the massive consumer possibilities we have, and the projection toward a future where we will be complete. But beware. Be very careful. Any day now you could realize that your life is an absolute misery, that you are absolutely alone in the wheel, running like a medicated rat. Making the movement toward openness is essential; it is the only sensible option. In doing so, you flip the bubble inside out, and suddenly, reality opens up. Your heart opens, your mind opens, and the vector has changed. No longer do you have the image of a progressing, remembering persona in front of you, but the immensity of reality. In front of your face is unlimited all the time; here and now you are, within the unfathomable unlimited that lives. In fact, you are that. It is not a divine, mystical realization; it is reality right now. The mental bubble ceases, as it is absolutely obvious that it is a kind of learned loop that makes no sense. Meaning is in your heart; the fact of being is everything, and you lack nothing. What you want is not to consume, but to expand, to flow, to connect. Everything is clear, clean, and alive. You have flipped the bubble inside out. Congratulations, you have solved the labyrinth of idiocy. Now, another phase of the game begins.

It depends of how you describe it. It's just a matter of psychological closure. Some descriptions are restrictive, while others allow for openness. If your conceptual framework is: reality is, this allows for openness because it doesn't imply any boundaries; there's no opposite left out. "Non-being" isn't restrictive. But if your frame it's: reality is nothing, then you're closed off because this idea excludes its opposite, something. What's something? Just any manifestation. Manifestation appears, then how could be "nothing"? According non duality because really they are nothing but they appear something. That's only a way of labelling what appears. The goal is not that but allow the total openess of the focus to the absolute being. The fact of being itself, without any restriction or label, absolutely naked of anything except the actual fact that is now without any limitations. Naming it is irrelevant, the point is being it now. You are that now, exactly here and not the absolute being is. That's obvious right? But the point is being totally open to this fact, this is the reality, to be open to this fact the separation between subject and object must disappear, being open means "being", you have to be the absolute without restrictions now. It's the same how you name it, but some labels create separation.

Why should be ownership? there is not an owner there is a process happening, and what you are is the process that involves knowledge of being. There in not "someone" knowing that is, but knowledge of being is happening and this knowledge is the self itself. A self always is the fact of knowing of being. If you are in coma you still exist, but there is not knowledge of being, then there is not self. If you awake from coma there is knowledge of being, even you awake mentally retarded without memory and only capable of distinguish light and dark and being scared of darkness, there is knowledge of being, there is a rudimentary mind that knows that is and that feels darkness as a threat of that fact of being. Self is the same than awareness.

The problem was in getting interested in spirituality. It's a subject you don't know much about, and you start reading, watching videos, etc., and it turns out that everyone who talks about it is wrong (90%), or if they're not, but their formulation is vague and confusing, poetic, not direct. So you enter blindly into a slippery slope where it's easy to get trapped. Those ideas you mention about reality being nothing and everything being illusion are a mistake, since those ideas deny reality from within reality itself, therefore creating a loop of confusion that closes. The objective is dissolving the separation between you and the reality, achieving total openess to your ultimate nature, not knowing that reality is this or that.

That saying that the self is a misunderstanding when it's genetically encoded after millions of years of evolution, is incorrect. It is not an illusion or a mistaken thought; it is a reality. Furthermore, the very idea that the self is illusory is an idea that arises within the self.

Exactly, I see it in the same way. Will would be the drive of form, conditioned by the infinity of cause-and-effect relationships that create and condition it. Form is born and dies; it is not absolute, it is relation, and it's drive is relative, it's choice because could be one or another. What we call God, or existence, is neither born nor dies; it simply is. Therefore, its only will is to be. If your will is absolute, then it is not will, it is an absolute vector. I don't see how it could be otherwise; any other possibility implies relation, and by definition, God is that which has no opposite, the non-relative, that is to say, the absolute. Relationship are possibilities that happens in the absolute drive of being. The drive of being never started, never will finish, then it wont arrive to any place, just cycles of creation and destruction following the equation of reality that could be described as 0=1-1. (As a metaphor) I also see this in that way. Even there is no destiny our will must be aligned with the drive of reality, just because any other option is resistance. Going with the flow is easy, going against it is unnecessary friction. Not smart option.

Will implies choice, drive implies inevitability. If there is choice there is an entity that make decisions, if there is drive there is absolute direction that happens because there are not restrictions or limits

You could say that the drive of reality is positive in the sense that it is, it exists. It has a positive vector, direction: being. That's absolute, without opposite.

Then it wouldn't be God as we use to define it, it would be blind power that happens, and reality wouldn't be a dream in the mind of God but the manifestation of this power. I think it's very different

The ultimate truth is unlimited being. You can't being open to the unlimited being if there is any structure, but after when the structure returns you can say: I was conscious of the ultimate nature of reality, and the subject and the object were one.

What is actual tangible is being. Consciousness/experience is an idea that implies that you are conscious or something, that you are having an experience. What Happens is that "being" in this form appears as experience, but experience is secondary

Some others . I'm quoting just to show, imo their explanations are too dark, could be much more simple and direct, but at least there are not mistakes. "The person merges into the witness, the witness into awareness, awareness into pure being, yet identity is not lost, only its limitations are lost. It is transfigured and becomes the real Self." "As long as you are a seeker, better cling to the idea that you are pure consciousness, free from all content. To go beyond consciousness is the supreme state." "The source of consciousness cannot be an object in consciousness. To know the source is to be the source." "You have to be there before you can say 'I am'. The 'I am' is the root of all appearance." "The 'I am' itself is an illusion; you are not the 'I am'. You are prior to it." "In pure being consciousness arises; in consciousness the world appears and disappears." "One thing is quite clear to me; all that is, lives and moves and has its being in consciousness, and I am in and beyond that consciousness."

So he says that the true self is the sadguru, the eternal friend and guide , but it means that reality is nothing. Well, if you say so.... He also said this: "The source of consciousness cannot be an object in consciousness. To know the source is to be the source. When you realize that you are not the person, but the pure and calm witness, and that fearless awareness is your very being, you are the Being. It is the Source, the Inexhaustible Possibility."

I can meditate (sometimes in 2 minutes) until the subject-object duality collapses, and then reality opens without limit. At that moment, there is no "being conscious of." This doesn't mean one is unconscious, but rather that the act of being conscious dissolves into the reality that is. Afterward, the structure returns, and I think: wow, I was conscious of the absolute without being conscious of being conscious, because if I had been conscious of being conscious, there would have been a duality, which is a structure, which is a barrier. I don't know if I'm explaining myself clearly.

Reading nisgardatta, seems that he's a mystic that is not in a mistake. Another is Ramakrishna, and another al hallaj But seems that nisgardatta was in a mistake at the beginning, but after he realizes it

No, look: "The person merges into the witness, the witness into awareness, awareness into pure being, yet identity is not lost, only its limitations are lost. It is transfigured and becomes the real Self, the sadguru, the eternal friend and guide Nisgardatta

You are implying that god is an entity with a will that does things for a reason. That would be limited. It's antrophormize the reality. If god is unlimited it wouldn't have intention, or if you prefer it would have all the intentions, that's the same than no particular intention. If anything arises it's just because it's possible, god or the absolute being is absolute potential, not a person who does anything and then forget it.

Humans systems are a manifestation of life. They might be a little cruel, but have you seen those wasps that lay eggs inside live cockroaches, and then the larvae devour them from the inside? And then people say that capitalism is bad.

@Mellowmarsh that's a mess unnecessary to explain something extremely simple: Reality is. Being happens in multiple forms but all of them are. Forms change, being is absolute. Forms are limited, being is unlimited. The fact of being is inevitable due the limitlessness. And that's it. No mystery, 0=1-1 . The end. What's more complex is understanding the human dynamics.

It's much simpler. The absolute is the unlimited being. Unlimited implies being, being implies everything. When you are open to it it's absolutely obvious. If all the barriers of your mind fall away, what remains is the absolute being. The fact that the absolute being is known within you is because you are a knowing structure, that is, consciousness. But consciousness is a specific structure that occurs, not the absolute itself. Consciousness is the absolute in the form of knowing that is. The absolute happens without intention, a creator isn't needed, it's just inevitable. For consciousness to exist, there must be a record of change and subject-object duality. That is, a self-preserving organism that exchanges information with the outside world. There's no need to invent another magical reality; this one is already magical enough . Opening yourself completely to the absolute isn't so difficult; the problem is that all spirituality is formulated in a confusing way. The absolute is you, not another. You are the absolute manifested in a form , it's just under surface. If you open yourself to your true nature there are no doubt, but this doesn't implies permanence, the form will disappear, what is will always being.

No problem, just admit that you are wrong and I'm right, then everything would be ok 😘