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@Raze @Raze Maybe your AI is not very smart, or maybe it tells you what you want to listen. I didn't say: "deserve", I said "cause/effect". As you could see, the effect is destruction. The cause is hate and philosophy of death. It's not morality, is a fact About the other conflict, I did a mistake with Boko Haram, maybe because are similar ideology, but in the others conflicts Muslim brotherhood (that you like so much) is directly involved. Anyway, in gaza are lucky, if their enemy were el Assad , Saddam, isis or Iran, they will have quite worse time. No trucks with food, journalist, flags, cries. Just some gas and phosphorus, and nobody would care about them. Maybe they wouldn't appears in any new

@Raze If you run a city of two million people and your roadmap and essential objective is hate, and you teach hate in schools, and you present death, self-immolation, and murder as the supreme value, then your city will end up like Hiroshima. Cause/effect

Boko Haram is not affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood but has exactly the same objectives: imposing Sharia law. In Sudan, they ruled for 30 years, radicalizing the country, turning it into a nest of murderers, persecuting Christians.and creating the broth of the current horror. In Yemen they are an important part of the war. They waged war in Syria for many years and were later replaced by more radical Islamists. In Palestine Hamas has its roots in them. Muslim brotherhood has the goal of impose the sharia in the world. Maybe for you this is a legitimate goal, but for others not so Anyway, Ask the AI how many conflicts in the world are related to yihadism. "Relationship," even though from your perspective the peaceful yihadist are defending themselves against the American devil.

Do some research on the situation in Sudan, Yemen, Syria, and Nigeria. In all of those places, the situation is much worse than in Gaza (Maybe not so in Nigeria but very bad). What do those places have in common? That the Muslim Brotherhood is involved. And who are the Muslim Brotherhood? Hamas! Well, Hamas is a branch of the Muslims brothers, those peaceful people But horror in not only Muslim. In tigray have dead 500.000 three years ago, and in congo millions (and lately isis involved in horrific crimes there). Did you know that? Anyone cares?

Americans are greedy, and their greed leads them to commit some pretty serious crimes, like pushing for the war in Ukraine, but their ideals are justice and freedom. In their human imperfection, they often do the opposite. The Holocaust, on the other hand, stems from other ideals: racial superiority and the rule of the strong over the weak. If the Nazis were the world empire, or the Japanese, things would be interesting. It's fine to criticize the United States, but repeating that they're demons is childish. Churchill, that admired stadist, contributed with his politics to the famine of madras. When he was asked to send help he answered that was not necessary because indians procreate as rabbits Mao or Stalin weren't saints neither, same the hutus or the Aztecs. Maybe the Americans neither, but in comparison with the whole aren not "demons"

Not all countries can be paradigms of goodness and justice like Iran, Syria, yemen or Saudi Arabia . Well, maybe china, who's selling weapons in Sudan to both sides. Welcome to the real world: humans are, let's say, not saints

I don't say that I like, just that now are getting more power due the weakness of democracy

West has become emotional. Democracies function by manipulating people's emotions, which draw them toward one trend or another depending on their feelings. Politicians aren't managers or leaders, but rather trend-surfers. Then strong leaders like Putin or Xi stand out. That's life. Probably the far right is going to emerge in this scenario, and the fault is weakness. Germany, GB or France can't be that puppets About islam, I think that a vibration is happening there. More and more Muslims are realizing of the toxicity of their religion/philosophy/political system. And they are speaking loud in the social media. Millions of Muslims see that they have being rised in a oppressive mental frame. They can't change easily because the family pressure is huge, but little by little they are emerging, and are smart and strong people

We can talk about history for years, as has been done, seeing who is the biggest victim and who was most mistreated, or look to the future. Historically to me seems clear that the violence was started by Arabs, but it's not relevant now, what's relevant is looking forward What seems clear to me is that Muslims aren't interested in improving as a society, but rather in returning to the past and hating. With that attitude, the only thing possible is to keep them divided and weak, because if they gain strength, they will use it to try to destroy. I don't understand how people don't see the horrible oppression that Islam represents. Just look at the countries of the Middle East, Sudan, Pakistan, or what's happening in Nigeria. Islam is madness, and having that around is a disgrace. Israel needs the strength to resist that. Europe and west are weak, emo society with a uncertain future, we will see what happens.

We will see in the future. The British and others are not happy with the Islamic brotherhood. Islam is a mental virus very difficult to cure. Seems that is some cases culture works, but not in all, you could see in this forum. People needs identity, and Islam provides that. Anyway there are smart Muslims that realizes the toxicity of their "religion". In Iran are millions. Maybe Iran is the beginning of the awakening of the Muslims, but probably it's not going to happen

They've already carried out very serious attacks in France, Spain, and GB, but it's different because they're isolated terrorist cells, radicalized jihadists with orders from Syria or any other place. So, how do they could react? Well, the US reacted extremely harshly after 9/11. Let's see if it happens again . All that shit of the genocide and macron crying is by fear. They don't want another. On knees between the Islamics.

@zazen Anyway, you'll agree that the Palestinians are lucky that Israel and Europe are so moral. You can cry all you want, but can you imagine if the Kurds messed with the Turks like that? Or the Chechens with the Russians? Or the Chinese Muslims with the Chinese? Doing something like 7 October? Maybe there would be genocide there, but for real, with phosphorus bombs. In Tokyo, Americans killed 100,000 people in one day with phosphorus, and no one talked about genocide.

Do you seriously think that killing 60,000 people in a city of 2 million in three years, trying to wipe out a militia hiding among the population, is genocide? Well, ok. Maybe you could think that demolish buildings is genocide, or maybe insult people is genocide. You insulted me before, maybe are you one of those genocidal?? Shit. Fucking Monster Genocidal. No, I'm Spanish, the country of the hippies retarded who are going in boats to gaza now to free Palestine in the name of LGTB collective 😅🤣

No, Muslims could govern themselves, but if they share a land, like in Israel, you would agree that it's difficult to deal with those usages. Anyway, it could be possible if the main principle of their culture weren't the dissapearance of Israel. About you said of devastated lands like Iraq or Libya (implying the responsibility of west, that is a reality) , if a dictator like Saddam of gadafi rules, things could be not so extremes, but if there aren't a strong military, the Islamics take the power and something like Afganistán can happen, that is a real dystopia, a hell, or like Irak approving a law about pedophile because Muhammad did. That's insane.

may be, but only in Muslim countries is it punishable by death. In China, Russia, Vietnam, Papua New Guinea, etc., etc., it isn't. (In some African countries is punishable by jail) It's also not permissible to kill your daughter if she doesn't submit to the marriage imposed by her father, nor is it obligation to cover women even if the temperature is 50 degrees. It's not just in the weak and castrated West; it's everywhere. In Mongolia, the Congo, etc. Also, in no other countries but the Muslims it's allowed marry girls of 9, 10, 11 years old putting her lifes in serious risk in the pregnancy. But as Muhammad did, it's allowed They are saying this in Europe, but sure you know that it's a nonsense. Europeans are so emotional, like narcissist teenagers. You are right saying that we are a civilization of weak and very stupid people, I'm 100% agree

@zazen (cant remove quote) Have you ever heard of honor killings, where parents or brothers kill a girl for not marrying the person they're ordered to and are later acquitted by the court? It's very common in the Islamic world, although it's normal for the woman to obey. The countries where homosexuality is officially punishable by death are: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria (northern states), Afghanistan, Mauritania, Pakistan, Brunei. Regarding what you say about colonialism, perhaps it is. Then call it colonialism, not genocide.

@zazen The Nakba occurred after the Palestinian defeat in a war they started. After each defeat, they lost territory. Palestinians can live under the State of Israel, but they cannot self-determine. Like any other Muslim group in the Gulf, they end up ruled by radical Islam, which hangs homosexuals, stones adulterers, allows forced marriages, and has Israel as its mortal enemy, brainwashed by the islamism. The other option is that the Islamic dictatorship will be deposed by a military dictator, as in Syria or Egypt, and that this dictator will be tolerant of Israel out of self-interest against its population. In Iraq, parliament has just approved the marriage of 9-year-old girls. It is better to protect Muslims from these practices, as well as stoning women, the murder of gays, and the obligation to wear a hood under penalty of death. It is not good for human beings. It's sad that they have that tendency, and seems inevitable, but a democratic country like Israel can't allow that political tendency in its territory. If in the future the Muslims show sanity and will to develop as society, stopping seeing martyrdom as main value and goal in life, then they could claim self determination in Israel. For now seems better to protect the humanity from this strange behavior Anyway, just a reflection: imagine that Jews never came to Palestine. How would be Palestine now? Would Palestine exist, or maybe if would be absorbed by another country. If don't, how would be it now? A good place to live? What kind of place?

(Impossible unquote sorry) Weed is harmful, but alcohol is more so. Those who become addicted to something do so because of their inner emptiness, unbalance, not because of the substance itself. Some substances, like methamphetamine, cocaine, or heroin, are very destructive and must be limited and prosecuted. Others, like alcohol and marijuana, are unavoidable. Those who are addicted are addicts because they can't handle their anxious energy structure. The ideal would be to create harmonious individuals, but realistically, society's path is the opposite, so we must tolerate the lesser evil.

The Palestinians declared several wars of extermination against Israel, supported by coalitions of Arab countries totaling hundreds of millions of inhabitants. Unfortunately, they lost, and were therefore unable to establish their dreamed-of Islamic utopia where gays are hanged, women stoned, and girls sold. Such is life. So, all that remains is to reconcile and adapt. Regarding the Israeli economy, it is very strong in technology, agriculture, and other areas. It is a dynamic, living society. Not utopian like Iran, Afghanistan, or Syria, but trying to improve

@zazen(can't remove that quote sorry) @Twentyfirst Genocide is the extermination of an ethnic group or population. For example, the Hutus killed almost a million Tutsis in one month with knives, the Turks a million Armenians, the Nazis 6 million Jews, etc. Do you really think the Israelis are trying to exterminate the Palestinians? Look, the Palestinian can live under the Israeli law without any problem. They must renounce to hang the gays, stone the adulterous and force marriages, I know that this is hard for Muslims, but they can do it in all the other countries around, so they should accept it and live.

Man, that victimism only leads to death. Watch the explanation of Clinton. Who knows what happened 100 years ago, who cares? A lot of shit around the world, let's think in today. Let's see if those Palestinian want to become engineers, doctors, artist, free minds, philosopher, biologist, mystics, models, porn actors, drag queens, astronauts. Life worths more than complain, blame and cry 100 years every single day

Sorry I quoted you by mistake, the message was to zazen, who talked about how the Israeli oppress the Palestinian. I think the Palestinian could talk about oppression when their main goal is developing as society and not the dissapearance of Israel. Difficult since islamist tend always to victimism and revenge, but let's see if they realize that it's impossible, then it's better looking forward than backwards. The problem is that looking forward needs some work, not just cry.

And the conservatives answer: wokism! 2030 agenda! Bill gates is the antichrist!!!!!

The Palestinians tried to expel the Jews since 1948. They failed. After several wars, the Jews emerged as the strongest group. Two million Arabs live in Israel. All the signs in highways and street are in Hebrew and Arabic. They have the right to their religion. In Tel Aviv, the Islamic prayer is sung on the minarets. All the Arab women are covered. Muslims work as doctors, lawyers, and politicians. Enough with this victimism. No one has their knee on anyone's neck. Israel is the only country in the Gulf where you're not sentenced to death for being gay. What are you talking about? Israel is not perfect? Who is? Try to adapt and live, there are many Islamic Utopia around, like Iran, Irak or Yemen. I think there are enough muslim paradises around.