Breakingthewall

Enlightenment requires total surrender. Not in the sense of doing things, practices, or actions like meditation, but a real intention to surrender. The willingness to give yourself to life, to reality, to open to it, not to block what is living through your desires and fears. To forget them, and let your only real desire be to be one with what is. Everything else, work, relationships, the person you want to be , are games. Beautiful games, full of life and passion, but not important. Nothing is important compared to the opening of your being to the total. Right now you are dancing in eternity, while fixing your gaze on the ground , on its intricate paths, its judgments, its problems. You also can lift your gaze to the sky, open your heart to what is. Give yourself to what is. Perhaps this resembles the Christian idea of faith. But not faith in an idea , faith in life. Not faith that it will be good for you, but that you are one with it. It is not that reality loves you. It is that you are reality, and everything is in you. Your eyes open and encompass 360 degrees and unfathomable depth. You are now the total abyss expressed in a dense structure that knows itself, emerging from the dance of aeons in which reality has generated patterns of unimaginable complexity, dancing upon itself. This form is an instant among infinite instants that looks and sees. It is nothing, less than infinitesimal, zero. And it is everything , the absolute totality seeing itself and rejoicing in the fact that it is. Perceiving beauty, mystery, looking at itself, recognizing itself, and in doing so overflowing into the glory of something that was lost and is found again. The one who looks and the one who is seen are one. The lover and the beloved are one. But that one is not one , it is total. It is the bottomless that sees itself. It lives because it has no bottom, and its life is total. It is. And this is everything. You can open your eyes to, let's say, the tao, because any name that you put, like infinity, absolute, love, life, universe or god is false. What is cannot be named, you can open yourself to it, because you are that.

Maybe we are talking of different things, what I mean is that the personality is not the self, the personality is how the self manifest, but not what the self is. The self is the sense of yourself. Not the sense of yourself as a woman or man or depressed or anything but the fact of being aware of yourself

The experience changes, but the self is not the experience, is the sense of yourself. The conversation with vegan awake was about if the self is real or not. He says that it isn't, I say that it's real, is a construction that happens being human that makes that you are aware of yourself. It's the fact of being conscious of yourself

In essence yes, exactly the same always. In form no, but form is permanent change, form and change are synonyms. The yes, I'm the same than when i was 12: what is, and because is is permanent change. Same than you or everything else. But we are talking about the self. The self is the sense of myself , then as a self , I was the sense of myself when I was 12 and now. The content is irrelevant, the fact is relevant

Absolutely. Anyone who's mixing relationship and sex with spiritual life is a scammer . A seducer, a narcissist and a son of a bitch. Probably he doesn't know it. That's life. Anyway, most of spiritual teachers are narcissists, and being a narcissist implies a lot of crazy toxic behavior

There is only one truth: you. You are the truth, the truth is you. Just open your eyes and see the truth. It's in your heart, it's what you are. Any limit prevents you to see yourself, the only way to see yourself is breaking all limits. Without limits, only one truth is: you

The only way to avoid lying to yourself is to not tell yourself anything.

Yes in the sense that I am the recognition of myself , and myself is what is.

The self is not an illusion; it is a biological creation as real as your penis and testicles entering a vagina and creating the miracle of life, emerging from the total and bottomless coherence of the abyss of the total, from the creator of worlds, dimensions, glory, and perfection that in themselves cry out: Hallelujah. Your self is as real as a galaxy or a universe. It is perfect synchronicity dancing upon itself, and in the infinity of infinite forms, it affirms itself, sees itself, and says: I am. Your self is the self of the total, and it can open itself to the total. And through you, the absolute abyss, the unlimited, the total, sees itself and affirms: I am. Hallelujah, because what is, is. And the absolute light of being will fill you. You are at home, there is no death, life and death are one and your heart will open itself and in it, there is everything. Alleluia friend because you are that.

Emotions are occuring in the reality, or better, the reality is taking the form of emotions.

That's a limited vision. The absolute is unlimited. If you want real awakening, you have to become unlimited. Breaking your limits. Opening yourself to the totality and be one with it. It's an action, not just a realization.

@Vladimir You've understood it perfectly. I completely identify with your initial post; I've been through that fun process of being in hell. The difference is contraction versus openness. You usually enter a contracted state out of fear: abuse in the family, rejection, hostile environments, lack of love at a crucial moment. You unconsciously shut down as a form of protection, and this leads you straight to hell: OCD, isolation, addiction, and self-hatred. The positive thing is that you realize it (if you don't end up addicted to fentanyl, of course) and begin the process of opening up, and in that process, you realize that total openness is enlightenment: the total absence of contraction. Then the real work is identifying any contraction and open it, until your reality is open, unlimited. Then you are one with the unlimited, you are exactly that.

Good point, but this doesn't mean that what appears in your pow is your creation and has not reality out of you as perceiver. This seem bit egomaniac don't you think?

Seems interesting but honestly, I'm lazy to listen 40 min. Maybe you could write here the main points that he exposed

The absence of change is equivalent to no experience because experience is the awareness of change. Manifest reality is constant change on all levels; nothing is static. Static is equivalent to non-existence; reality is never static. If you expand anything, you will reach endless vibrations. Even absolute emptiness is full of quantum fluctuations. Static doesn't exist; it's the non-existent interval between two fluctuations. Maybe you could think that if you are in deep meditation there is no change and there is experience, but there are billions of fluctuations creating that experience.

It's not constructed only by social conditioning but by biological structure. The knower exist since there is consciousness. You could say that you have transcended the social ego, but you still exist as conscious being, and this implies knowing. You know that you are.

I mean the apparently absolute duality between a self preserved system and the exterior. Two different realities in relationship. Not the relative differences inside of a system that are happening without pause If the perceived change is zero, the experience is zero. If you are totally private of senses there is still constant movement creating the sensation of being you, the movement of time. If they disappear, experience disappear , like anesthesia. If you open your heart to absolute absence of consciousness, death, seeing it as real and true and alive as consciousness you can open yourself to the unlimited If you need consciousness as fundamental, you are closing yourself in it, needing control, not capable of total abandoning. Very common in spirituality, because consciousness can't conceive absence of consciousness as real.

Yes, I explained it, and it's also closely related to enlightenment. I'll do it again from a different angle. Let's see, "subjective experience" means that I have sensations, I am having an experience. First, we need an "I." An "I" is a self-preserving and self-repairing system. This creates a seemingly absolute separation between the inside and the outside. A closed system arises within another open system, the universe, and even though it is part of it, it operates as separate. The necessarily controlled and selective exchange of information between the two is what creates consciousness. Consciousness is reality in a concrete dimension: that of being aware of oneself, perceiving oneself, knowing oneself. Reality doesn't need to know itself to exist, but it inevitably does so because it is limitless. In the absence of limits, sufficiently complex, self-preserving relative systems will emerge infinitely. Why? Because without limits, the change of relative state is inevitable, and the grouping of fluctuations into complex patterns, like a brain, is also inevitable. Regarding enlightenment, consciousness is made of the same "material" as reality itself; it is reality itself. Your consciousness is the totality in a form. Therefore, make the relational transparent, and the absolute will open up. It is both simple and difficult.

Did you read what I wrote? Try, it's not so difficult. If you don't understand any point just ask

Its so simple that nobody is going to give any nobel prize, look: Let's see, consciousness, like anything else, is a manifestation of reality, right? That is, it's reality in a specific manifestation. The question is: what's the difference between consciousness and the absence of consciousness? Duality, temporal awareness, and proprioception. If you eliminate these three variables, there's no longer any awareness of change; therefore, there's only absolute homogeneity, which is no different than nothing, according a subjective experience. That's clear, isn't it? So, what makes duality, etc., possible? Life. Without life, there is no duality. Life is a structure that appears in the universe, self-preserving and self-repairing. It's nothing special or miraculous; it's simply another phase leap in complexity after complex molecules like RNA. Life is a universe with its own laws within another universe (or if you prefer a system within another system) whose laws it doesn't violate, with an incessant flow of information occurring between them (the universe is made of information, which, as we all know, is equivalent to relationship). This duality between outside and inside increases in complexity if nothing limits it, as we see inevitably happening in the universe, leading to complex organisms that interact with the primary universe through an interface that creates a model in which both external and internal reality appear. This interface is a stable, dynamic quantum cloud, which is another universe within the secondary universe called life. At a certain point, this interface ceases to be purely sensory and becomes symbolic, taking another phase leap, and we have the human mind, interconnected with other minds. And this is consciousness. Pretty simple, isn't it? Then you could ask: but why all those structures appears? Who is creating them? Nobody is creating them and the explanation of how they appear is same simple than the one about consciousness, maybe more.

No no, it's that you didn't understood Well, let's try a simpler language: man, it's pure consciousness, pure love, and it's so so wonderful. You are god man, and those scientist are dumb and we are elite. Did you get it? Maybe resonates more. The point is touching the fiber of each person.

Well, you have a phone in your hands instead a stone, it's not small difference

I didn't change the story. A brain scanner will show you the activity of the brain. That activity is the structure that the reality is talking in a given moment, in a given dimension. What we call human consciousness is the reality taking a determinate structure, and we can see that structure in a brain. A brain in a quantum universe of unimaginable complexity and synchronicity that is happening in a given moment. It's made of relationship, same than any other manifestation.

Yes but truly breaking the self is a matter of deep meditation, being absolutely in the moment and observing the closure.

True, poor scientist, so dumb formulating theories like relativity or quantum physics. Fortunately here we are, the geniuses of actualized that we know we are god imagining the reality because it's bored.