Breakingthewall

The problem is that it's not something you can do at will. Just as you can't stop the flow of thought, you can't stop constructing identity because your system operates at that frequency. If you try, you jump to another identity, God or whatever. The only way is to access expanded states in meditation little by little, day by day. The first time this happens, it could lasts two seconds and is very shocking; it's as if reality becomes fluid, uncompartmentalized, limitless. It's not something mystical, or well, everything is mystical if you want. It's a different way for the mind to operate, a mind that has become accustomed throughout life to needing solid anchors. These anchors must be constantly maintained; without them, balance is at risk. It's not something you can do in a moment, but after a period of practice. Perhaps two or three years of serious meditation and psychedelics with the goal of liberation, not understanding or transcendence. You have to aim for rupture, not construction.

Without limits, at some point a dual system will emerge that gives rise to consciousness. "Some point" is always, because there is no beginning or end, as those would be absolute limits. Reality has no purpose, it is just inevitable. Any absolute purpose would be an absolute limit, implying that without it there would be no reality. And that purpose would be part of reality, not its cause. Any cause would be part of the reality, same than any possible god. Then there is not god, cause or pourpose, just reality

Of course, and the fact of having that feeling was synchronized with the entirety of existence to the infinite power.

Absolute perfection or coherent patterns means that only what is perfectly coherent with itself can manifest, since the slightest incoherence would imply non-appearance. Imagine the universe at a quantum level: every field vibration must be synchronized with the totality of vibrations without deviation, since it exists because of this synchronicity. Your birth and every breath you take occur because they are coherent with the totality of manifestation. Reality manifests because there are no absolute limits; nothing contains it. However, there are relative limits, since any manifestation exists in relation to everything else. Therefore, it is limited and created by the totality of existence, and at the same time, it creates and limits the totality of existence

There is no god, no purpose. How could there be? If there were, it would have been fulfilled infinite times over, and God would be schizophrenic. There is an absence of limits flowing upon itself in coherent patterns of absolute perfection, that is, possibilities manifesting.

In a contracted state, the mind is constantly working because it needs to maintain its identity. This process is relentless, without pauses. The mind cannot stop, and it is futile to try to make it stop. The entire system would panic, and the mind would become even more active. In an open state, you recognize yourself constantly for what you are. The mind continues to process information, but at a different frequency. It's not maintaining an identity but simply functioning as the organism it is. Stopping thoughts for a while is easy, but for a long time, it's very difficult. The mind thinks like the heart beats; that's what it does: construct structures. The question is the direction of that movement: is it to maintain identity or to understand, anticipate, plan, and so on

I see it differently ordererd. First, there's the ontological need for permanence and belonging. Thought doesn't create this; it's inherent in being alive as a human being. This ontological need could be defined as an energetic barrier, a field of reality that permeates your entire being. Therefore, your thoughts, your physical energy, your movement, all are filtered through this vibration. It's absolutely impossible to escape it at will, because willpower arises from this internal vibrational field I'my experience something else is needed. When I meditated and took small doses of psychedelics, LSD or THC, I would sometimes find myself facing an absolute abyss. Reality was no longer temporal continuity, but rather me, a perceiving center, perceiving an empty void without bottom. This was intimidating because the mind seeks foundation, continuity, a timeline. So you have to look fearlessly into the abyss, into absolute death, and desire to merge into it, to dissolve into the void without hope or purpose. Then it happened that I wasn't looking into the abyss, but rather that I was the abyss. At first it was absolutely horrible, because the self hates the lack of foundation, but the mental suffering that was always present drove me to seek the abyss again and again. At a certain point, it happens that you are without edge, content, bottom, or movement, and that is totality, that is everything. Then, little by little, your system reconfigures itself. You realize that the contraction isn't just mental; it's in your body. In every micro-movement or breath, it's a field that permeates everything. It gradually loosens, and at a certain point, being without borders or foundation is the norm. It's a kind of solipsism, not because others are imaginary, but because you are limitless. But that's where everything lies; it's the totality

An artist at influencing, Sadhguru is a genius at what he does. The problem is having the status of a demigod, knowledgeable about the 84 universes, capable of holding his breath for a year and making trees bleed. But it seems he sees that as necessary to reach people. He understands Enlightenment well, at least conceptually, and what he does at his foundation seems positive in all senses. But of course, one begins to tolerate certain lies as innocent tricks, and in the end things go wrong.

There is something that could be called the end of suffering "by default". When the ego functions in a contracted state, as it does in almost all cases, there is constant suffering every second; it's just that one doesn't realize it because one is accustomed to it. Life becomes a projection into the future, and every moment must be filled with content. This is because the mind is limited by energetic barriers made of fear and an absolute need to be accepted into the human group. What we call enlightenment is the opening of that framework. Energy no longer bounces off the energetic walls of lack and fear but flows constantly and without limit. The body relaxes, and the mind is emptied of need and fear. There is no definition, and the only knowledge is that you are, since this is constantly perceived. Then death is seen like not something "outside", not an absolute limit, because limits are impossible, since you are. That's everything.

Me same, I recognize the artist there; I imagine him with several advisors saying: "Well, I think a little shorter, and raise your hands in that endearing gesture you make." "Yes, yes, like that, let the turban move." "No! Too strident, softer, more... enlightened." "Exactly! You've got it!" And they high-five.

Sorry to know, I also have a couple of things that make me suffer and desire don't existing, family things. That led me to look for a way out Well, I wrote like 20 post about the topic in this thread and I mentioned Ralston once if I remember well, and I wrote those post as deep as I can

Mental suffering is far more persistent because it points to a much more elaborate action. The fire burns, the rat flees. You were gang-raped, you ruminate for years, you suffer, then perhaps you dedicate your life to helping rape victims, or perhaps you orchestrate an elaborate revenge by hiring Russian mercenaries, or perhaps you undergo a phase shift and stop seeing the aggression as personal, beginning to see reality as intertwined emergent movements that dance with each other, and rape is like roses in summer. The mind is a hyper-complex organism that creates persistent energetic structures that give rise to prolonged and profound actions.

I read the post, but it doesn't explain exactly how to stop suffering, he just said that he observed the suffering and how he's creating it, then he stopped creating it. But this implies a let's say , not exact idea of what means "he". Again the example of a Nigerian jail and gang rape when I was 9, and more, my mother sold me there to be raped in exchange of a Louis Vuitton bag quite ugly. Tell me , how to stop this rumination. I know how.

I ask you not to Ralston, and I said that it's possible to finish with that suffering, but the question is how So, how would you dissolve it?

That would imply there are two categories of life: that of the cell, or the animal, which is real, and its suffering is legitimate, necessary for survival; and the mental category, which is unreal, and its suffering is a kind of system error, an unnecessary loop that must be deactivated. But reality is not like that. The mind is a living being, exactly like the cell, only on another plane, in another phase. The mind arises as an interface that interconnects separate organisms through symbolism, and it is a stable, self-preserving energetic structure, just like a cell. Mental suffering is activated by symbolism, but symbolism is as real as the fire that burns you. When the emperor makes the symbol: thumbs-down , the gladiator says, "Fuck me." And his system releases an energetic discharge that is perceived as suffering, just as a rat's system releases an energetic discharge that is perceived as suffering if you burn it with a flame.

Obviously, there is suffering that is my responsibility as a self. For example, if there's a flame and I put my hand on it repeatedly and get burned, I'm responsible for that suffering. It's enough to simply not put my hand there, and that's it. But we're not talking about that; we're talking about when I suffer because I obsessively remember being gang-raped in a Nigerian prison at age 9 (to give an extreme example). Tell me, how would you dissolve that suffering? What causes that suffering? What is the mechanism to deactivate it? It's possible, but let's see how.

What means unnecessary? Maybe reality is, let's say, not smart enough ,and creates unnecessary things? Or maybe it's me who can't see deep enough to understand the purpose of what is?

Simplification are good in simple matters, but this is not the case.

The moment life arises, tension appears. The essence of life is the will to be. A hyper-complex molecule, like RNA, lacks a will to be; it exists because the laws of the universe dictate its inevitable appearance under certain circumstances. Life is not the same; it is another phase in which a structure closes and self-preserves, protecting itself from the external world, attempting to adapt and endure. Suffering is anything that goes against this vector. The suffering of a cell is essentially the same as the egoic suffering of not getting likes on Instagram, only the latter operates through symbolism, but its essence remains the same: it is life pushed back when it points forward. Suffering is not a mistake; it is the necessary tension for the development of life. Now, I, as the mind, take a step back and say, "WTF? What is this joke? Fighting to endure when it's sure I'm going to die? There's a problem here. I'm fighting against reality, when I am reality. I have to find a way out of this enigma. The first thing the human mind does in the face of this dilemma is cling to religion, including non-duality. But this is on the conceptual mental plane. Your energetic system knows it's not real. There is only one way out: the opening to the whole. Death is not outside of you as a reality; it is within what you are. It is not an absolute boundary because what you are has no limits. You have to be limitless, then the life that comes from the first cell that encloses itself in a membrane opens itself to the absolute

Physical pain is an engine of suffering. Same than emotional pain. If you feel maximum pain you will suffer. All your sistem is going to scream: stop the pain. But the pain won't stop. That's suffering. No because a rock is not a closed system that preserves itself, as life. It's another phase of reality Because they aren't alive. Being alive is another phase of reality that happens when a system that is self-preserving and self-organizing within a universe with laws creates its own differentiated framework of laws and separates from the main universe, being part but temporary a whole. The mind is a living being that arises in another living being, another phase of life, and as it is self preserved it suffer. The only way to relativize that suffering is the ability of the mind of dissolving it limitations and be one with the total. It still suffer, but in another frequency, much lower And the most conflictive point: mind is consciousness. The mind have to realize that consciousness is not essential. Absence of consciousness is same absolute than consciousness. The mind has letting go the consciousness, that's a difficult point Consciousness is the reality being aware of itself, in a dual configuration that register time. Reality is not consciusness, consciousness is the reality . Reality can't be said.

That's what I'm doing, but it doesn't resonate with anyone so what to do. 1 Suffering is inherent to life because life is a self-preserving system that needs to repair itself, avoid destruction, and strive for conservation and permanence. Suffering and desire are the energetic configurations that drive this process; without them, life would not be possible. 2 The distinction between physical and mental suffering is false; it is the same thing at a different frequency, since the mind is a real energy structure, as real as the body but in a different phase of existence. 3 Modern spirituality claims that the mind and the sense of self are illusions. This is false and only leads to spiritual bypassing. The ego-mind is a phase or qualitative leap in life, just as the difference between a bacterium or a multicellular being and between that being and a being with a brain and sensory organs is a phase leap. The ego-mind is an interface that creates synchronicity between individuals to reach new phases of existence. Reality leaps to new phases whenever possible. 4 If there is mental suffering, it's because something is misaligned in the complex energetic structure of the mind. Denying it as an illusion never works. At a certain point, the only path is the opening of the mind to its absolute nature. The mind is reality in a limited form. When the limitations are broken, the mind recognizes itself as the whole, and the fear of death ceases. The whole is not consciousness, nor a creator god; it is absolute reality and can't be said ot thought, and ultimately, you are that.

The mind is not an invention, it's the reality in a form. It's as real as a rock or as the body, it's a stable cloud of energetic process created by eons of evolution that lives. That idea of the non dualistic teacher is simplifying what's not simple to feel safe. I know well what deep mental suffering is and I know well how to finish it absolutely and sustained for years

If your broken leg hurts that produces suffering. Suffering means that you deeply want that things are different, and if your leg hurts enough you will wish very hardly that things are different . If you have chronic pain, it's a source of real suffering. The point there is that you are differentiating between the self and reality. The thing is that the self is reality. It is not an illusion that can be transcended; it is an energetic pattern that can be aligned. The self is a hyper-complex set of energetic patterns built over eons of evolution that has a coherent and real existence. The suffering of the self is no different from the suffering of the body in essence. Both are self-preservation mechanisms that compel actions to avoid destruction or optimize survival.

There is suffering, the categories are just misunderstanding what suffering is. What is suffering according to you?

I get upset by your advices like empty your cup and that because seems that you are placing in a superior position, like you are Budda telling easy obvious slogans of non duality, but of course, I shouldn't because that makes me automatically an idiot I know that of empty the cup, knowing nothing etc, I meditate a lot and I know perfectly the non dualistic teach and I tried a lot to practice them, as anyone who is serious in spirituality, then I realized their fundamental mistake that is the separation of the observer and the reality, I'm pointing that, and you haven't understood