Breakingthewall

An idea is the reality

Nobody knows how reality works. Maybe you're living simultaneously in 124 dimensions, and every time you grab your dick thinking dirty thoughts, baby Jesus cries and sends you one eon to hell (because he loves you) Or maybe when you die, it doesn't matter if you're a serial killer of children or a saint. The point is, there's only one guide: your inner guide. If you feel that suicide is truly the right choice, the integral choice, the one that will allow you to open your heart to death without fear, without shame, and with joy, then suicide is perfect.

Emptiness doesn't exist, its just an idea. It's impossible because reality is. Emptiness is absence of being, and it isn't.

@Ajay0 Good excerpts. I read that book and was very impressed. But now I can't help but see it as completely wrong at its core. When you read K, you come to the conclusion that the solution to every problem is to stop thinking, so you have to meditate until you achieve a thoughtless mind, like that of a 6-month-old baby. Well, a human being doesn't work like that. The problem isn't thoughts; they are inevitable. The problem is the thoughts that arise in a mind that operates on a comparative emotional level, that hasn't conquered its sovereignty, that deceives itself and fears not being enough, due emotional structures that comes from the deep time, from the evolution of mammals This mind can be in total silence and still remain at the same level. It will be a forced and violent silence. He sees everything exactly the opposite; thought is a consequence of your operational level, not the cause.

I told you hundred times, but let's one more. If there is "emptiness" appearing as a knower, there is a knower. "Emptiness" is just a word that sounds espíritual for neo advaita, but you can't realize that you are empty because the fact of realizing is something. In fact it's everything, is being knowing that is, aka self.

I'm the existence being conscious of itself, just a facet of existence. Always means that without limits a possibility always will happen but this possibility is not the reality itself, it's a possible aspect that happens.

Sure, the work consist over all in becoming handsome, sexy, self confident, mentally balanced, sociable and that your dick grows to exactly 23,5 cm. Then you got it, time to start the models hunting.

How do you know that? Seem a religious idea. Are you absolutely sure that it's real? Maybe it's a manifestation of your inherent need of control. Or maybe is true, who knows. But the question is: how do you know? A lot of people live in extreme suffering, wishing never have born and looking suicide as the most wonderful liberation. In fact a lot of people commit suicide and much more don't do because they don't dare. Agree, liberation happens when there is not inner resistance anymore, but this is not easy, there are many subtle ways to resist. For example need of control. Absence of inner resistance implies openess, and openess implies the realization of the unlimited in every moment of your life.

Agree, understanding is simply beautiful. It's the key of freedom. The main obstacle for understanding is emotion, but same time emotion is absolutely necessary for understanding, it's its drive.

Reality doesn't need to be experienced. For you seem necessary because you are experience, then no experience is the same than nothing, but it isn't. You can't think in it because thinking is experience, then anything that is outside of experience is non existent, but experience is just a facet of existence . Reality is, and that everything. In some point reality knows that is through the experience. "Some point" in the unlimited is always, but always doesn't mean fundamental

The unlimited is unfolding without consciousness or intention but inevitability. There is not a conscious creator, it's impossible. Brains appear due the inevitable unfolding of the unlimited, same than anything else. Consciousness is not something, it's the reality structured in a way that a model of the reality is created, and in this model a brain appears, but the brain is the structure that allows this model of reality. There is nothing mysterious in it.

God is the unlimited, and you are that. Because only the unlimited is, and it is because it's unlimited. Limits and forms appears in it, because appearances are made of límits. All of them relative and logic, same the unlimited is also logic, it's logic is this: as there are not limits, the unlimited is. And this is everything.

@Majed how do you know? How anyone could awake to the fact that the others have not experience? You could have that feeling in some moment, but that's meaningless. It's crazy, you can't awake to thing that you don't know just because you have a feeling that seems very true. What if you awake to the fact that Putin hates you and he want to put uranium in your coffee? No more coffee in the mornings?

Of course you are right. I like the topic of the self, then if there is the opportunity of talking about it I will do because thinking about the topic is a pleasure for me, but at the end it's a nonsensical argument

I hope you feel safe with your mental twist. What is clear is that you can't have a conversation, just repeating your mantra to avoid the fact of your limitation. Spiritual boredom.

Learned where? It's just obvious, the unlimited is expansion, creation. Just see what you are without the filter of the mind right now.

Maybe you can't see that what you are is an expression of the reality. You can disappear as this form, but the reality can't disappear. Your memories, your current structure is irrelevant, what you are is the unlimited. Reincarnation isn't needed, there are already infinite incarnations, just break the limits and would be obvious.

Before what? After what? Just reality unfolding, same than now.

Nobody claims to be the ownership of the introspection, the introspection is the self in the form of introspection. The "habitual thought process" means a unbelievable net of lógical interactions that are happening in the reality, and it's result is the knowledge of being or consciousness . That awareness of being is the self itself. If you want to be selfless, just sleep or die. The problem here is that what you call self is just the conceptual idea of a person, that's very basic. If you had meditated some years you would see that you could totally empty the mind and still there is knowledge of being, that is, consciousness. That is the self, and it's absolutely real being conscious. Disappear when you are unconscious. But other self could appear, in fact infinite of them. All are the same, the reality knowing that is.

No, there is not a person in the body, the body is a dynamic process that we call person, includes a brain, that is the structure of the mind. If Muhammad said, then should be true I guess. But look, all can be one essentially, it's obvious: everything is the reality. But as a forms they are separate. You don't need to be a genius to understand it

So, as you can't maintain a serious conversation about the topic you use irony, and your main argument is: I realized that the self is illusion. Well, some realized that they are Jesus or Napoleon. How? They just realized.

That's not the case. A person is a hyper-complex process created in the depths of evolutionary time, possessing fixed structures and the capacity for learning. What is learned, what you call thoughts, becomes a stable part of that process; it is not an illusion, it is entirely real. A human is conscious of themselves and of the reality outside of themselves, with which they constantly exchange information. There is no illusion if you perceive yourself as separate from another human being. You are. As ultimate reality, you may be the same, but as a process, you are two. Spirituality invents concepts that provide emotional relief, but they have the flaw of being false.

You are, but you could have a lie in your basis, or maybe you have removed that lie. Humans function by emotion, and emotion makes us to lie ourselves, because we can't face the truth. Then you could be integral, committed to the truth, or you can seek your emotional well-being by making that commitment more...lax. Then you're simply a liar, as we can see so often

Reality always appears as a dynamic relationship, since "appearing" equals dynamic relationship. Every relationship is governed by logic; there are no non-logical relationships, since relationship=logic. The human mind creates models of the universe through logical relationships and uses logic to understand and predict possibilities. The logic with which the mind operates is made up of relationships between ideas, and these relationships can be correct or incorrect, since at the level of association between ideas, the mind is a model of reality. The point is to refine the logic of association between ideas by eliminating everything that is not absolutely logical. If you allow a virus of illogical association to operate stably in your mind, it will lead to incorrect associations, which will cause you to separate (psychologically) from the true flow of reality. Its much better having few logical frames that are clean and aligned that a world of ideas with a small mistake in its basis, because this mistake will grow and you will get lost, as it's usual in humans

And how did you do this introspection? You started to think: where is the self? Oh, it's nowhere! Then there is no self! Well, maybe some people like scientist and those dumbs could think that your investigation was, let's say, not so profound as if could be. Maybe you need that conclusion because you listened it in some videos of non duality and you felt that this would be freedom? Just think about it